You could use the community thing on your channel it has a poll function, I won't personally buy merch because I can't afford it

if you sell it with the picture of the Holy God BIRB than yess

PRAISE THE BIRB

yes

How much for your bird?

War is the physical manifestation of economy. Economy is driven by labour, by property, by strategy, by technology. All of these are prevalent in war too. Your labour is your people and machines, which are armed and set on the enemy. The property is what you aspire to claim or defend, economic strategy will determine availability of resources and manpower, which in turn affect battle strategy. Lastly, technology determines what your labour will use in combat. Nuclear weapons, or sticks and stones. Putting it simply, a society is essentially a big business, it's goal is economic dominance. Warfare is the societal equivalent of measuring sticks, to see whose is bigger, stronger, and which opponent wields it better.

@@sudanemamimikiki1527 I completely agree with everything you said, there is one small change I would recommend. We separate the terms strategic from tactical, and ditch the concept of "wargame" since it's generally too vague and could be referencing strategic wars or tactical battles. Strategy is about winning the wars on a global scale. Tactics are about winning the individual battles. Stellaris is a strategy game and not a tactical one :) Aside from that I believe we have found a consensus.

Wars are another means of neogiation.

Stellaris is basically Victoria in space.

No, but indiscriminate orbital bombardment of planets is more fun than bureaucratic administration and seeing coloured numbers rise.

I always felt something lacking in my tall gameplays until I got habitats and hive mind. 3 ring worlds and 18 total systems with citadel defenses maxed has been my best game in months.

Pretty sure the hive doesn't "speaks" but instead "reaps"

yes

The hive reeks

@@pixelbyte8142 says you stinky robot

Clerks are debatable. Early on yeah, ressetle them first. But mid-late game they become the primary source of energy and consumer goods.

I don't trust a soulless machine which wishes to destroy all creation the birb giveth... I better watch the video!

@@chrizzlback7047 You should watch a video, this is for people who already did it and want to skip for part they interested in

@@determinedexterminator3798 It was a nice refresh/recap. I also agree with a lot of the people here that the clerks tip is debatable. But I also play (tall) Hive Mind usually and one synaptic node is enough to keep amenities where they need to be until you can build the city (hive) districts you need. Then the nodes help keep your admin cap clear if you hang onto them.

@@DzinkyDzink Exactly as a mega corp in a trade fed isn't more trade value good ? If the entire planet is already covered in shops and I have pops left they're all going in clerks for sure.

Absolutely. While you are at it, you should also spam enforcers and use chemical bliss. Your pops will love it, your eco probably won't!

Is there a use for Chemical Bliss? I once tried to use it on a fallen empire as I didn’t have enough jobs, but even that they were still angry and low stability

@@jiminfested maybe? if they really hate you, then you could use it to massively boost happiness, but they also lose a lot of productivity on that living standard as well, so i guess the main idea is to prevent a loss of stability (since high stability boosts planetwide production)

@@syrusalder7795 you use it on your livestock until you get nerve-stapling

@@jiminfested use it for livestock

Damn.

Yes! I had a tread deal with a huge megscorp once where i sold 1k of each of the basic strategic resources, in exchange for like iirc 60k alloys. The war i was fighting was over in 3 years after i started printing ships with the mega ship yard afterwards.

Nice, thanks bro!

I usually go for UA at the late game when my economy is so strong that it really does not matter. It boost the stability of my planet out the ass

@@oskarnowak2816 Prosperous Unification, Fanatic Egalitarian, Meritocracy, Civilian Economy, and Consumer Benefits. Now you can be UA from the start of the game, for the whole game.

Whenever I play something like a communist nation, or fan egalitarian, I take UA mid to late game just for the theme.

@@LordBruuh Nah, that's just the chinese knockoff version of communism.

Bruuh you are joking, right? I’m talking about actual communism, not Stalinism, not Maoism, genuine pure Marxism. The closest thing to ethics that a true communist nation is Fanatic Egalitarian + Materialist. Hell, even the game needs you to have fanatic egalitarian to take shared burdens _which literally has the hammer and sickle as it’s symbol._

They're good on an ecumenopolis where you're focusing on alloys or consumer goods. They do take quite a while to pay themselves off but an ecumenopolis grows so tall with so many pops that I can never find a reason for not justifying a gene clinic somewhere early on, especially if you're having trouble getting motes or crystals early on.

He also fails to take into account the gene clinic produces amenities. I'd much rather have the pop growth plus amenities. With a gene clinic I never have to build entertainment before 50 pops. But yes, always the robot plant first.

His analysis doesn't take into account the fact that amenities lead to higher stability, which leads to better output. Gene clinics are good for the early and mid game amenity boost, with the 10% pop growth speed being a nice bonus.

I remember attacking one of my rivals, he owned like a third of the galaxy and had several food planets, after bombing the hell out of them for months, the food price had risen so high I could make severe bank on it. The best part, was I just finished a segment on a ring world, and had it all set for food. Was making nearly 2k energy credits per month on trades.

@@Snoogen11 Rookie numbers :P But yeah thats pretty nice ^^

damn if bombing is not enough, you can grab sum profits by pushing the enenmy buying what their need most. thanks for the tip. fella

Well, it's been patched out.

@@mrazi9753 It now adds Criminal jobs, but how does that effect your economy?

@@b-chroniumproductions3177 Reduces trade, increases chances for negative crime related events to happen, makes those crime planet modifiers semi permanent or permanent, kills governors, etc.

Minimum sell price only works for strategic resources

It's useful to make a big sale of a resource like food or minerals, when it reaches 1 due to high demand. As a corp, I use silos to buy cheap and sell higher to turn some extra profit. Of course, you can make some extra by preparing for actions which cause shortage of consumer goods ... you changed trade policy to pure credits. Or you can do the opposite, sell goods then switch to consumer benefits. Alloys ... buy them when wars begin, sell automatically at inflated prices, you may even recoup the credits you invested as aid to help one side and curry favour with a faction, which may help you open options for later, like war or leaving a Federation without economic embarrassments. It'd be better to be able to set min/max transaction price, not just unit price and also have price level triggered trading.

Yes, I agree .. it's OK for high value resources but you should be able to set floor/ceiling prices for transactions, also have monthly buy/sell transactions triggered when the price rises/falls to meet your conditions. Actually playing and manipulating the market adds to the game. Saying the min/max ec for the order avoids need for decimal points and self fits automatically for cheap/expensive resources as you don't bother selling 10 minerals monthly. Food/consumer goods in early game perhaps, but you would still benefit by avoiding poor value trades

You used commas for periods and made so many spelling errors it sounds like your a very little kid for some reason

Me too, I feel clerks get too much hate. My last megacorp empire ended with nearly 30k trade value coming in. Had over 4000 pops and not a single consumer good factory.

@@Snoogen11 remember this vid was made before the megacorp update

@@oshitwaddup4956 Yeah this vid was, but the clerks still get lots of hate even now. Maybe the upcoming update will change that.

Ggggg

Assimilate. Assimilate. Assimilate.

I for one welcome our robot overlords.

Spiritualist fool

Fanatic materialism all the way.

Use them as slaves or (better) build clone factories

Not good for economy, but the medicine for your soul

@@dinamosflams I was wondering what is the justification to prevent certain pops from colonizing when you could expand so much faster besides RP. But now every planet is just a giant mix of xenos lol.

@@dinamosflams *FORCE LABOR*

Philes*

my friends robot economy is kept going through processing species

Praise the birb

Purge the birb*

If you don't have Hive Mind DLC, then Oh Boy do I have news for you.

I always stayed away from it just because I didn't want any more crime. It was a solid tip.

Clerks still shit though.

Yep. Fun game but the meta is a very narrow pigeon hole with rigid walls.

Agreed though maybe it's just me that's lazy and incompetitive but if I were to play Stellaris in multiplayer I would 1: only play with trustworthy individuals and 2: decide whether to face modded extreme ai as a cooperative or agree on roleplaying guidelines beforehand.

Yeah agree, sadly in mp games theres usually only tech rush dan destroyer rush players. Hard to find chill mp game unless you play with friends

@@martabakcoding7784 that's what we do, we are mostly beginners but we play co op against highest difficulty AI. Some of us know basics that pops are key etc but we don't use any cheese methods. (says me with my gene clinics and spawning pools on every planet). 😏

It IS because of the crime lord deal.

@@Stefan_Anon Played a game a couple days ago. Had crime lord deal, ai built a branch office on the planet and jacked my crime up to 100%. Suddenly, even with crime lord, i had mob rule and 2 governors died because of crime events within 4-5 months.

Consider that those pops could've been doing something else. 2 Metallurgists working for 334 months would produce 2k alloys - more than enough to build an entire Habitat - and that's just base, as in before tech, edicts, ethics, civics, what have you.

Mathematically speaking: - A gene clinic boosts pop growth speed by +10%. Using the base value (3.00), that means it boosts pop growth speed by 0.30. - A new pop is produced every 100 pop growth. This means it takes 0.30/100.00 = 333.33 (repeating) months for the gene clinic's output to add up to one bonus pop. Or, 27.7 years, as you said. However, gene clinics give two medical worker jobs, not one: you're still -1 pop that could otherwise be doing another job. This means you need another 27.7 years just to break even on pops from using a gene clinic, then *another* 27.7 years before you see an actual net gain from using a gene clinic. That's literally 1,000 months. Those 1,000 months also come with a consumer goods cost: 4 consumer goods per month, so that net gain of +1 pop costs you 4,000 consumer goods. Beyond that point, each additional bonus pop is costing you another 1,333.32(ish) consumer goods. Meanwhile, a holo-theater produces double the amenities and also some unity for half the consumer goods cost, and also doesn't reduce your workable pops for 70-ish years while you wait for the payout. Soo... yeah, I'm sorta inclined to agree with Stefan Anon, here.

In term of production, 2 medical workers aren't equivalent to 1 entertainer because they cost 1 more CG to maintain and they produce two extra unity each months, in addition to the pops base costs. Like, if we were to compare employing two entertainers to two medical workers, then by the time the two medical workers have produced one extra pop (334 months), then the two entertainers would have costed you 667 less CG and produced at least 1667 more unity while also increasing the stability on your world all this time. Assuming unity and cg are equivalent to 2 energy each, it means that extra pop costed you at least 4667 energy equivalent (more likely something like 6000 to 8000 energy once you take into account other bonuses to unity production and higher stability from amenities). So in term of opportunity cost, that's a very expensive new pop. It's just not profitable.

Ok I'm convinced. ☺ No gene clinic for me. 😉 Thanks

Clinics are amenity buildings, don't build them for pop growth.

@@RobBCactive compared to a theater, they don't have nearly as much amneity, so that makes no sense cause otherwise there's no reason to build clinics over theaters, of course you build them for the pop growth that's the only reason they exist. the amenities are just to buff the building slightly.

Clerks are garbage. Your snowflake build doesn't change anything.

@@samithonjames370 care to elaborate? I have to say, rapidly unlocking ascension perks and hosting the galactic market are some pretty big plusses.

What are you referring to?

@@karusmuuti 21 days after this video was posted Stellaris released Megacorp making trade value pretty important

@@karusmuuti mega corps can make trade value into 0.5 energy, 0.25 consumer goods and 0.25 unity

Stability matters, but pop happiness doesn't rise much with vast amenities, the big difference is crossing the threshold from too few to a small surplus. I think you are seeing immigration pull, but that pulls from a source with emigration. That is very noticeable early game if you colonise several planets from 1 homeworld. I have seen lowered productivity with just small amenity deficits, which are immediately fixed by +10 from the gene clinic, paying immediately for the 2 pops jobs by improved productivity and re-staffing generation districts. Following another video ignoring amenities from gene clinics, I experimented to check on the flawed arguments. Even upgrading from holo-theatre to gene clinic improved pop growth speed without losing any production, because the extra amenities didn't make any difference. Don't trust Stellaris authority on this, do the measurements yourself in situations where an amenity building helps. It comes down to other factors, like if +6 unity is significant and whether +0.3 pop growth helps more (late game with +5 growth conmon it's less useful than when the base growth is depressed). On my large higly populous planets, I easily reach big per pop amenity surpluses, because I can afford empire wide bonuses like patron of arts and some traditions, plus tech which improves habitability reducing consumption. As for the comments on egalitarian, the fact is freeing slaves on a CoM run recently and putting them on social welfare hadn't the expected hit to consumer goods stocks, because supply increased through higher productivity to meet extra demand cancelling out. That was before a government ethics shift was made. Funny but I think they balanced the Stellaris economy so more play styles are viable.

I know right? I like doing lots of clerks in a megacorporation and trade league federation. I can get ALL my consumer goods and most of my unity that way ^^'

Still bad. A case can be made for Thrifty pops, though.

@@vikrots6167 Offcourse they'd have thrifty! We're stacking trade value here!

@@vikrots6167 but later in the game districts are limited, and city districts gives more clerks than a gen district gives technicians. so early game I focus more on technicians and slowly switch to clerks as they free up my districts and building slots due to the mass of consumer goods factories I can replace thanks to the trade policy I didn't run the numbers, but per pop (scarce in early game) I would favor the technician and per district (scarce mid to late game) the clerk. in a trade league

But having crime more than 25 means you lose stability, a very big deal

@@durnel2001 Social welfare for happiness. Ammenities with gene clinics (with is must have, because pop growth). Deep space black site for governing ethics attraction and free stability. High faction approval will give you happiness as well. So, to summarize, it will give you a lot of stability + stability from crime lord deal. Idk how can you get low. Also you can use byzantine Bureaucracy for free stability and unity in late game.

@@misha9209 the cost for higher living standard are higher then the stab bonuses.

@@durnel2001 Actually crime Lord deal removes the negative events from crime hence being a deal with the crime lords so there is no reason not to get it

@@EliteSpectre32 Crime has a negative modifier in addition to the events, crime lord doesn't solve the drop in happiness and stability fron high crime, that's why you still have to manage it