Steinitz vs. Zukertort | World Championship 1886

Steinitz vs. Zukertort | World Championship 1886 - GM Ben Finegold

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Grandmaster Ben Finegold profiles the first game of the first world championship match between Wilhelm Steinitz and Johannes Zukertort. A portion of the match was held in Saint Louis.
2015.12.17
Johannes Zukertort vs Wilhelm Steinitz, Steinitz - Zukertort World Championship Match (1886): D10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav defence

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@missjessgem 8 жыл бұрын

I love watching GM Ben Finegold insult... uhhhhh, i mean instruct... the audience.

@andyisyoda 8 жыл бұрын

Ben you are a fantastic presenter. One of the best on the planet.

@johnbongjoey5200 Жыл бұрын

Uranus?

@jaivl1106 8 жыл бұрын

Finegold with a non-Morphy XIX-century game? Suspicious!

@fabricelealch 8 жыл бұрын

+Jairo Gauss Terrible!

@EvilSecondTwin 8 жыл бұрын

13:26 "…instead of retreating like a Frenchman…" Fucking classic!!

@atreorey 8 жыл бұрын

Finegold is here again, i think my work can wait 30 min :D

@wantmycrabs 8 жыл бұрын

Q: "Mr. Finegold, if you could have dinner with any five people, alive or dead, who would they be?" A: "1. Paul Morphy, 2. Paul Morphy, 3. Paul Morphy, 4. Paul Morphy, and 5. Paul Morphy." Fact 1. Ben Finegold dresses up as Paul Morphy every year for Halloween..... and sometimes on the weekends when no one is watching. Fact 2. There is a framed portrait of Morphy above Ben Finegold's fireplace.... There is also one above his bed... and in his bathroom.

@aaronsilver-pell411 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think that Ben is the reincarnation of morphy?

@briddhiman1729 8 жыл бұрын

Amazing lecture. Thank you GM FInegold.

@bonerici 8 жыл бұрын

great lecture thanks ben

@AndrewIsbell 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

@edwardbottle1018 7 жыл бұрын

The computer actually announces mate from the final position pretty much instantly. It said mate in 10 then I let it think for 20 seconds and it changed its mind and said mate in 9.

@vibovitold 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I meant to write that. Maybe it took it slightly longer in 2015 ;) But still it wouldn't need a minute. In fact, the position is a forced mate after 45. Bxe3 already (and 46...Bf2 mates slightly faster than 46..Bf4 played in the game)

@SteveRunciman 8 жыл бұрын

When will Ben play Yasser?

@kourii 4 жыл бұрын

The video is titled 'Steinitz vs. Zukertort', when it is in fact Zukertort-Steinitz, confusing the audience. Terrible!

@charlesdarwin180 8 жыл бұрын

At about the 18:00 marker Feingold says black has 3 passed pawns. But I think it's only 2 passed pawns since black's f pawn isn't passed. A passed pawn needs to have all on coming pawns cleared and any pawns on immediate files cleared to be defined as "passed pawns". The reason that black's f pawn is NOT passed is because white still has a pawn on e3. Anyone else notice this?

@madhavsanap6690 4 жыл бұрын

You are right

@antoniobreaux1584 Жыл бұрын

Finegold obviously knows that... he maybe just made a visual mistake.

@emilhaugen1201 8 жыл бұрын

yay more Finegold! hilarious 19th century annotations.

@kjr63 8 жыл бұрын

LaBourdonnais-M'Donnell match next?

@Cr0nUs1340 8 жыл бұрын

Just a guess... About the the absence of the chess clock in the artists picture. It's inclusion would have interfered with the silhouette of the chess pieces. less is more...

@Joslinmeister 8 жыл бұрын

Ben's the best.

@cyxFrag 8 жыл бұрын

32 min...SOLID

@princessaiko 7 жыл бұрын

@15:58 Ben said, "What does the computer say? Qf1 is losing, Nf1 is losing..." Actually (and strangely enough), Stockfish 8 believes white is slightly better than black after Qf1 (+0.2 at a depth of 28 plies)... pretty weird. Awesome and interesting lecture, as always.

@vibovitold 6 жыл бұрын

Running "full analysis" on that game in Fritz 15 gets 7. c5 marked as a novelty :)

@mislavivkovic9996 2 жыл бұрын

My favorit player

@everstanding400 6 жыл бұрын

13:44 some of you may notice the knight doesn't have squares, thats because you don't have imagination, knight to i3 😂😂

@CourtneyBryceHilton 8 жыл бұрын

RE the bit around 4:30... defending the b7 pawn with Qc7 is ok because then if queen takes d5, black responds with Qxc1+... very suspicious.

@dusanmijatovic7913 8 жыл бұрын

fiancchetoing his knight

@scheimong 4 жыл бұрын

Let's guess Ben Finegold's favourite word... It is 'never' as in 'never play f6', 'favorite' as in 'your favorite grandmaster', 'random' as in 'let call on a random student', 'suspicious' as in 'which looks suspicious', 'incorrect' as in 'Incorrect!!', or 'explosive' as in 'c4 is explosive'? Nobody knows

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd Жыл бұрын

Zukertort is one of my personal favorite underrated players, during time(s) in his life I'm confident he was the strongest in the world

@BachehKhala 8 жыл бұрын

Sir Finegold, at 4:24 you state that if the queen tries to defend the B-pawn, the D5-pawn hangs. I think you missed Qc7 and if Qxd5 then Qxc1+ and it's game over, so Bc8 isn't the best move, it's Qc7.

@kjr63 8 жыл бұрын

+Rawi Weideman Wow. Perhaps i should start playing the slav.

@BEKrustie 8 жыл бұрын

+Rawi you're assuming that white makes a bad move and hangs a bishop, even players under 1500 would see they have a piece hanging... Any normal person just plays Nc3 and attacks d5 again

@BachehKhala 8 жыл бұрын

+BEKrustie Very unfortunate. Any normal person plays 6. Nc3 and any normal person would reply e6 and it defends the pawn again, black has already equalized. Actually the better move instead of Nc3 is 6. Bb5+ Nd7 which not 'any normal person' would play, but slightly higher rated persons. The idea behind my comment was that Ben stated that Qc7 hangs the D-pawn, but it doesn't, since black can defend it easily with counterplay. Normally, 1500+ players would've spotted that. I wasn't assuming anything buddy..

@BEKrustie 8 жыл бұрын

It does hang a pawn, the definition of a Hung piece is one that is undefended. Which needs no further explanation or critism, moving away a defender and allowing another attacker whether that pawn can be defended by a pawn or not only leads to built pressure assuming both sides play well. That is all.

@BachehKhala 8 жыл бұрын

+BEKrustie Wow have you even read my comment? You should check with a chess engine, perhaps you'll understand the position somewhat better then.

@skddwivedi2158 3 жыл бұрын

Steinitz was the first ever player who played to win and not just for fun.

@gregmartin3425 Жыл бұрын

I think Staunton played to win. He was quite a serious man.

@csoki6709 Ай бұрын

Pov my name is steinitz

@PhilippeCarphin 8 жыл бұрын

I got to the Steinitz chapter of Kasparov's My Great Predecessors, but I have a feeling this will be slightly more enjoyable commentary.

@NekysAcherontios 5 жыл бұрын

1986 K-K London and Leningrad

@maninblack4158 5 жыл бұрын

I don't even like chess I just come here for the comedy:)

@florianl8273 8 жыл бұрын

Kf2 exclam!

@dusanmijatovic7913 8 жыл бұрын

lol the only move

@smwg4187 7 ай бұрын

13:11 Witness the repulsive sight *and* sound of grandmaster Finegold consuming his extra added sugar super deluxe mega fat coke.

@Brusselpicker 8 жыл бұрын

Knife f5.

@bigbrother5024 8 жыл бұрын

In 2115 people will look at today's games and say: "Berlin opening? Morinic!" and "Ben's Games? Suspicious!" ... so the "this and that isn't played today' comments might not be the final word.

@andrew_owens7680 4 ай бұрын

I'm curious as to how much respect the European players had for Morphy while he was in Europe and how much sway Staunton had over their perception. Morphy didn't, so far as I know, write about chess. Staunton did, and therefore had more of a voice. I guess what I'm getting at, was this match thought of, at the time, as the first world championship?

@beaut7811 4 ай бұрын

Morphy contributed to Chess Monthly for a few years around 1858-1861. He also annotated a couple of the La Bourdonnais-McDonnell matches

@gregmartin3425 Жыл бұрын

He's like the Don Rickles of chess commentary

@fisher00769 8 жыл бұрын

Geez, if they did first to win 10 world championships now it would take ages.

@Folopolis 7 жыл бұрын

20:48, I guess this is the exception to the rule, always play Knight C4. That stupid rule breaking pawn.

@bombrix5195 8 жыл бұрын

18:15 "queen e7............ "

@lolwhatyesme651 8 жыл бұрын

@johnathanjacobs2569 4 жыл бұрын

so anyway, knight d-2...not recommended by danny machuka...ben finegold is a fun teacher

@IanMcGarrett 7 жыл бұрын

Why so disrespectful of earlier generations of chessplayers? Their games are the foundations on which modern chess is built and provide valuable lessons not just for beginners but for advanced players as well.

@andreialexandruparfeni7129 5 жыл бұрын

By modern standards, everybody in the 1800s except Morphy, Steinitz, de la Bourdonnais and maybe Zuckertort were pretty bad.

@kevinbyrne4538 7 жыл бұрын

A championship game that didn't end in a draw ? Oh, it was held in the 19th century -- that explains it.

@kellybrown6988 8 жыл бұрын

2 Frenchmen disliked this video

@dusanmijatovic7913 8 жыл бұрын

@szymonpawlisz2515 8 жыл бұрын

Zukertort wasn't british. You can argue if he was polish or german, but certainly not british.

@STLChessClub 8 жыл бұрын

+Simon Hoogendal He was naturalized in the UK in 1878.

@vibovitold 6 жыл бұрын

Zukertort was Polish, not German. Obviously in sport it's citizenship that matters, and he could never hold Polish citizenship since Poland didn't exist as an independent country during his lifetime.

@DWeirich76 7 жыл бұрын

Zukertort would have won if he played the collie.

@lowtherlars 4 жыл бұрын

The Business underrated comment

@antoniobreaux1584 Жыл бұрын

Collie is a dog. Colle is the opening system.

@DWeirich76 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for correcting my spelling error. 👍

@Doodloper 2 жыл бұрын

What is Finegold talking about??? Euwe and Alekhine played in a zillion different cities across The Netherlands, during both their 1935 and 1937 world championship matches - Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Haarlem, Leiden, Zandvoort, Gouda, The Hague, etc etc etc etc etc No chess historical knowledge this guy ---> Terrible, the truth hurts