The noxious trait just allows the whole species to experience what it's like to become a dictator.

Also very relevant to have your ruler pop with a living standard that grants as much ruler political power as possible(academic, decadent or stratified) for maximum stability

Just when the xenos thought being a slave couldn't get any worse, their overlords suddenly developed extremely powerful B.O. to make life just that little bit extra miserable. I love Stellaris.

Feels a bit like Dune’s Baron Vladimir Harkonnen strategy

Multi Level Marketing? More like "Next Level Marketing", this strategy is genius

This would work very well on the Necrophage origin. You get a fast breeding slave caste to fill all the lower roles and your noxious upper class keeps them in line. That would also be helpful since you start the game with at least a couple species so you don't have to roll the genetic engineering tech at all, you can just start with the noxious trait

When I play my megacorp I prefer the term Pyramid Team.

You could pump this up even farther with the overturned origin, since you can add and remove the overturned traits at will, why would you care what the slaves leader lifespans are like, and since your primary species only works specialists you can hyper focus research with them so that you can afford to do all the gene modding necessary

This video is quite an eye opener. I've never really thought of using traits like this.

"Inverted conal political structure" is absolute gold. Also it's good to see I can finally roleplay as the the Hutts.

Once i saw noxious i felt our deadly beloved form of integerating xeno into our beautiful society was gonna make a comeback. Although i didnt think it would be this extereme😂 Oh the poor xenos!

Prisoners with jobs... finally, space America.

If you later on add the Nerfed Stapled trait from Bio ascension, you will get even better slaves (and they ignore happiness if I recall correctly). Even worse for them and good for us :)

Does that mean you could trick around a lil bit with Syncretic Evolution (the origin with the slave-species)?

This scheme is quite... TOXIC!!! AHAHAHAAAAHAHAAHA.

Now add a few overtuned traits to the slaves to really boost the effectiveness and eliminate the randomness in rolling gene tailoring.

Ah Montu. Making Paradox groan loudly after every new content patch.

My favourite build right now is toxic hive mind: Mutagenic Pools and Splinter Hives Vassal Holding (The Vassal will hate you but who cares) combos to give you absurd amounts of pop growth, I got about 40 pop growth on my industrial capital by year 2080

I just started a Toxic species game and my empire isn't nearly as bad as this! I'm so proud of you...

With each new video, my hand goes even deeper into my face (and then, into the like button) when the "press the like button" pun happens

Your opening speech got me invested. I smell profit!!

I bet Paradox see this, slap their forehead and go: "Damn it, there goes the galaxy"

As a necrophage fan, I was happy to see relentless industrialists, but especially this noxious trait.

Actually amazing! Ima use that soon as I get back into my game

noxious necrophage and thrallworld shenanigans when?

I know from experience this synergies well with the Decadent trait since it doesn't do anything and you get an extra trait point at the cost a trait slot. Also if you have the Utopia dlc, you can do this with Syncretic Evolution origin and get slaves at the beginning. :)

Epic. Trying it out later!

Rule of thumb of pyramid schemes if you have to ask if it is a pyramid scheme. It is a pyramid scheme

Gotta love the "A Life Worthwhile +5%" in the cluster of malus for the poor Niblings

If this will work with necrophage this trait is just pure insanity :D

Montu: "Click the like button to sign up for this multi level marketing opportunity." Me: *doesn't click like for the first time ever.*

Toxoids definitely has some fun gameplay implications - this is kind of nuts. This plus livestock should be interesting...

Very interesting concept. I like the idea behind it. Though the crime is a bit concerning. It may be more beneficial to also move a few more pops over as enforcers. Which would also increase stability even further. I’ll need to take a look at the crime events to see if it’s really necessary though.

It's not slavery, Montu, it's internship...

I sense we'll see a nice overpowered build with overtuned slaver empire soon :)

lol! What an exploit! Nice work man!

Isn't *all* of Stellaris a pyramid scheme? Come on Montu! Even your empire is shaped like one!

Aww, had me going at the start I thought you were going to do a Megacorp build... I haven't seen a Megacorp for ages... can you do a new one pretty please good sir?

2:46 So that's what I forgot to do in my previous games

Alright, that's pretty funny. It does make me wonder if the happiness boost was intentional or "oh crap, we put the decimal in the wrong place". Back in the previews, the modifier was shown as 0.02 percent. Now mathematically that does equate to 2% from some angles, but the amount that it can add up just seems a bit silly.

I knew once I saw the happiness bonus that this trait would be easily exploitable lmao

well, 3.5.3 fixed this exploit by capping happiness bonus at 40%. Now you will have to ensure you do not have a huge amenities deficit, although that is quite easy to manage by using a alien race with good amenity bonuses set to domestic servitude

The volume level of your videos outside the intro and in-between clips (i.e. your voice) seems noticably lower than other videos on YT of late. Did you change something in your setup?

Nice video~! Could you do some zombie build?

So with knights montu u should see how broken u can make that habitat by having live stock and servent pops on their that can not migrate off as it will give u more knights and when 1 knight can output 40 tech points i think getting 7-10 early game might be meta I got my hab late game with nearly 1k production from 15 knights having everything else on their as servents live stock and like 3-4 crime pops could easily have done this early to mid if i noticed sooner

Just to be sure, is it a good idea to lock the "Prisoner's office" planets growing the xeno species, and your capitol and specialist planets growing your primary species? I know that forcing one to grow gives a bit of a reduction to pop growth but I'm just thinking it'd be a huge pain to have to check every planet for pops of the wrong type every year or so...

"Inverted Cone" XD

Lot of cool things in this pack. Whats your opinion on the new building Environmentalists can build? Is there potential in a meta build to use the civic for early game unity and then reform out of it later once you no longer need it? You get something like 2 and a bit unity per "natural" blocker on the planet (so starting planet blockers don't give unity), and on top of that the building creates an extra blocker which counts as a natural blocker, so you're getting a bit from that. Your capital planet also starts with this building on it, so you're generating a little bit of extra unity from the get go too. I've tried to ponder the best build to combo it with - early unity rush builds like Psionic ascension seem good, but I've always found early economy to be a struggle with teachers of the shroud compared to other origins, so would prefer bonuses that help me more there. Considered combining it with technocracy to help early game unity output, since they struggle with that.

when you smell so bad that the slaves who greatly outnumber you would rather keep working the mines than try and dethrone you out of fear of having to actually touch and be near you

House Harkonnen be like:

Sounds like Thrall worlds with extra steps^^

Tried this with Necrophage, got to say, crazy how my main species deals more army damage with Noxious + Strong then my host species of just Very Strong. The problem is I had to keep them as indentured servants as I can't convert them.

You *WILL* be happy.

Stratification remains supreme

Does the negative happiness modifier from Noxious also affect other Noxious pops? As in, if I had the Noxious trait already built into my race, will they all be unhappy whilst living together?

thrall worlds get even better

I was doing exactly this, but with necrophaging. they're all happy to be converted into necro pops! make sure to have a third species to hold as slaves though.

So, you merchant rush, you can get max stability

I have been using the new toxoid expansion to get a pop growth rate of around 10 to 12 percent on every planet, add in clone cats and it's absolutely crazy. Infact my biggest problem is resources, I just can't keep up with the population growth so often struggle with unemployment

this seems perfectly balanced

I'm combining this with Relentless Industrialists, Post Apocalyptic, and Radiotrophic for the ultimate Slave empire

You call it Multilevel Marketing. I call it efficient allocation of abundant xeno capital.

So it looks like the ratio is about 1 overlord pop to 40-45 slaves. That is extremely powerful.

lets go!!!

I'm sold, where do I sign up

Hive minds, I'm coming for you...

I'm doing my part

OK, I didn't use it on my supergene empire, because I wasn't sure about how this traits really works, but now I'll definitely use it because I really love enslave these filthy aliens. Just need to use supergene tic traits to make them ridiculously productive and here we go Thank you mighty Montu, the onion lord

What exactly is pop efficiency? Btw I have watched many of his videos and have around 100h into the game

Is it possible to use the Toxic Knight Origin with this?

This works even better with Necrophages, Subterran or Syncretic.

I recommend going a bit xenophobic. This way you also get the livestock slavery type. As a generous Grandmaster I provide everyone of my Knights 9 Slaves as Servants and Livestock. This also has the positive side effect that my Order Keep attracts many new Knights for Service. ^^

What about the crime issue? Will it lead to some unwanted results?

This seems like a neat thing to do with necrophage

Why didn't you use the Overtuned start to get genetic modification to start with? You could of also gone Nercophage and used noxious to overbalance your empire while having all the benefits of being Necrophage.

i have an idea for noxious trait: Happy Cattle. Make a Species cattle than make them noxious and delicious. ^^#

The new overturned origin is broken with a hive mind. Plus 125 % pop growth in jear 220....

Yes, necro toxoids would make this even better. Without question.

8:05 lol forgot to cut out the editing note

the “nice” slave master build

I was hoping to see the VOD of the multiplayer game you played on tuesday. I hope you'll post it soon as being a truck driver, i could not watch it at all.

so your overlords sprayed themselves in Axe and now the PopsWithJobs are happy enough to not be in the same room as them

The TRUE corporation playthrough.

Toxoids: You'll have nothing and you'll be happy.

I was really wanting to do this but it looks like they changed how noxious works

1:21 Autosub "the Hungarian Imperium" lol

It's one of those cosmetic companies selling perfume to randos on the street, but instead it's pheromones capable of controlling xenos.

Noxious and Nerve Stapling have been interesting tools, Overtuned is SO going to get nerfed in places....

This is definitely going to get patched right out.

So a Thrall world without the Thrall world tech.

Quiet toxic indeed, but will crime be a source of concern?

This is how Hutts rule an entire region of the galaxy

Where do I sign up?

There should be class based uprisings. Like: Slaves are completely unhappy? Revolt. Specialists are completely unhappy? Revolt. For all classes. Would make managing your internal affairs quite a bit more interesting.

Honestly this whole species pack is so broken it's beautiful.

;D We are Reddit, resistance is futile!!

I love Toxoids. I love the Republic. -- Jeff

Hey Montu, is there an important reason you keep the worlds as normal designations while still treating them as Thrall Worlds in every other regard? (deleted all the buildings, built all the rural districts, etc). Do actual Thrall World designations have some big weakness over using these kind-of "thrall worlds" with normal designations?

ok ok ok... 62 comments i literally see 10 whats going on with this site... i know its not montu... i was thinking i might be tripping for a second i am most definitely not tripping...

Slave trader empire spamming slave worlds sounds quite fun for role plays