Golden State won Before him and won After him.

Anytime KD has to LEAD, he’s unhappy 🙄

KD should just work a 9-5. How tf you unhappy. You play ball and make millions. Come be unhappy with us 9-5ers.

Without the stint in Golden State...Kevin Durant is no different from Carmelo Anthony

I'll say this. The 2 rings KD won in Golden State did more for Curry's legacy than they did his own.

Mistake to join them? No. It was a mistake to leave them mfs.

He should have stayed with the Warriors. It was a dumpster fire with the Nets and becoming a circus with the Suns.

They did Perk dirty with the avg 5 and 5😂

JOHNNY GILL IS THE BEST COMPARISON I EVER HEARD FOR KD

Going to GS is not a negative for KD based on the impact to his legacy. What has happened _AFTER_ going to GS is going to have a greater negative effect on his legacy than him being there. Even more so, the fact that GS was able to win a championship _AFTER_ KD left pretty much removes KD from any GOAT conversation. He's a two-time champion, a two-time Finals MVP, an Olympic gold medalist, and a first-ballot Hall of Famer. For many, that résumé should be enough. I don't understand why there is an insistence on elevating him to levels he just doesn't reach based on what he's accomplished.

Kevin Durant being Johnny Gill is hilarious

Kds ONE finals appearance with OKC did more for his legacy than his two BUS RIDER Chips with the Warriors Never shouldve left OKC

He has two titles because he ran from the GRIND. What has KD done after he left Golden State? Giannis beat him.Tatum and the Celtics wept him. Jokic sent him home. Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves swept him🤣😎🙆😭. Y'all say he's skilled and unguardable. Is he though? When dudes play defense on him KD QUITS. He's always running from the GRIND. And he's always played with Hall of Fames only.

"...weakest move by a superstar ever..."

Why are we talking about this during the playoffs?

“Durant-ing & Raving” How many times y’all gonna use that? Lol

NARRATIVES HAVE RUINED SPORTS

I was the biggest critic of KD decision to go the Warriors. But i also said that he should've stayed there and rack up as many championship as possible by the 4th ring he wouldve changed people minds.

Perk sometimes be talking a lot without saying anything

The tarnishment on KD to me is that the team he left beat the team he hot swept by(Golden State vs. Boston). When he was in Brooklyn.

KD was playing his best ball with the Dubs. Leaving was a mistake. It definitely hurt his legacy.

Nobody respects Kevin’s rings, that’s the problem

KD's move to GSW was the best situaiton for him and that is one of the reason he was so successful.. All he had to do was hoop, there were other people that took care of the other parts.. I think the blowback and media was one of the reason he left... I think the best team right now for KD is the Knicks.. All he has to do is play basketball.. Brunson does the leadership part.

Kd is top 10 all time talent, maybe top 5. But he’s at best top 15 “greatest” ever maybe even top 20 as years go by. You could make the argument that guys like joker and giannis are already ahead of him despite only 1 ring because even tho KD has two, his were by joining a stacked team that won before and after him. And kd doesn’t have the multiple mvps (and dpoy in the case of giannis).

Monday & Tuesday shows are the best with Shannon on. He brings great energy

S.A.S does so much moonwalking, he must have been a MJ fan growing up.

I remember being in middle school when KD made that movie Thunderstruck and I just loved the guy. Was one of my favorite players growing up until he made arguably the weakest move in history.

He was never gonna get the same love the Warriors big 3 got because he wasn’t home grown. He just helped build up on their legacies more than his own.

HUGE mistake Never shouldve left OKC KD shouldve just worked behind the scenes to get WestBRICK traded NOBODY can win with that guy, not even Ty Lue lol

Did KD tell one of this guys that hes not HAPPY ??? I dont understand all this topics with KD when there lots of other things to talk about

if he stays w GSW he retires w 5 rings 4 finals mvps steph ends w 6 rings both looked at as top 10 maybe top 5 all time and best duo of all time but nahh instead kd left cuz draymond made him salty lol

KD = 4 scoring titles = 10 scoring titles

"man I couldn't stay in my house 10 hours straight" 😂

KD let TV Bums convince him that the Bay Area didn’t love him. smh. The Bay Area had/has BIG LOVE for KD. He was welcomed and IS welcomed at anytime. #35 in the Rafters🫡🏆

How many iconic moments did KD miss out on by leaving the Warriors? If he stayed with the Warriors, I think we can all agree that he would have won at least 2 more rings. Imagine how many great moments and shots he would have had in those playoff runs? Now we will never know or witness it because he left the Warriors and hasn't had a significant playoff run since then.

Ever since KDs mom talk to SAS he goes soft on him lol

KD should’ve just ignored everyone and stayed in GS winning more titles cause everyone is killing him for still not winning a championship after leaving GS

Kd the Greatest offensive player to ever touch a basketball? Perk got a good coke man 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂

He doesn’t need to win anything else. He’s an mvp and champion you don’t need to listen to them KD. These narratives are ridiculous. Remember why you play the game for the love of it. You’ve won now go be happy wherever you want to be

Can't these shows come up new fresh topics to discuss. Could have sworn I've spoken about this a million times already

Moving to GSW was a chess move by KD and Leaving GSW was an emotional decision. Making a decision on the sole basis of emotion can be detrimental to a man's career.

Where are the Dallas talk?

Funny thing about this convo is that why no one questions curry. He blew a 3-1 lead in the finals and recruited KD messed up the league for 3 years and no one says anything 😂

that New edition Johnny Gil reference is spot on 😆🤣😆🤣

Mistake was leaving golden state. Was a spiteful superficial move.

He should have stayed with GS

Good analogy using New Edition

It tarnished his legacy but leaving and never making it back to the finals with the nets and suns has tarnished his legacy even more. At this point he should have stayed with the warriors and dealt with Draymonds trash talk.

So he’s penalized for being the best player on a championship team. That’s like a dude joining the 96 bulls and being better than MJ but it’s discredited lol

Soo much is wrong with the whole argument. Let’s look at the KD warriors vs lebron’s cavs match ups. Steph vs Kyrie … even but give the edge to Steph, kd vs lebron… even but give the edge to lebron… klay vs Kevin love… even both were laser 3 pt shooters, klay was better at 3s love did more defensively. How was this a forgone conclusion . The fact that even lebron saw it as a forgone conclusion shows he’s not the goat

KD's legacy as per Chuck " A BUS RIDER "

KD gets all the hate and people calling his rings weak (rightfully so), but no one hesitates saying that Steph is a four time champ when half of them are the very same rings.

KD is the worst elite player to have to lead ur team to a championship 💯 he will never be in the goat conversation until he wins on his own

He called that ninja Johnny Gill 🤣

You cant really say kd would never got a ring without golden state. If he stayed with okc who knows maybe they beat golden state the following year and beat cavs.

How many times are we going to keep talking about this ffs?

If KD joining the Warriors was a mistake, then LeBron joining the Heat was a mistake as well hurting his legacy too. Keep it equal. Both were super teams.

That New Edition comparison was excellent

Love the New Edition analogy Go Ronnie, Bobby , Ricky, Mike and Ralph and Johnny Go Draymond, Steph, Clay, and Kevin

KD should’ve stayed in Golden State and when he left should’ve went to the Knicks instead of Brooklyn.

Why are they talking about him when you have 8 teams in the playoffs, who cares about KD

Big Perk loving Unc analogies 😂

Now they saying Kevin Durant should have stayed on the Warriors. The Whole World wanted KD to leave the warriors.

4:34 the cap is ridiculous they were young now?

The johnny gill comparison was spot on

Still talking about this

Yes it was a mistake. Curry is a coward too for running to get Durant. They both ruined their legacies they stacked the deck and nobody will care they won 2 together as time goes on.

Are we really saying that lebron won that Cleveland ring by himself????!!!!! Bra 🤦🏾‍♂️

He should have been better and won more. Its hard ranking my own list to separate KD from Kawhi. Same amount of chips, same finals mvps, 1 mvp for KD, 2 DPOY for Kawhi, one is an elite scorer of all time, one is an elite defender of all time. Both lead teams and/or stood out on good teams to win finals mvp. Both should have had more success for whatever reason.

Whether it was a mistake or not is purely subjective, but one thing is for sure: those two rings don’t elevate his rank as a player in the all-time greatest players rankings.

When has Lebron ever got it done by himself? In Miami? In Cleveland? In LA? Perks argument makes no sense.

Draymond Green: we were winning before you got here.

It took less than 10’ seconds for SAS to lie.

It was a mistake to leave. KD showed he was a great team player. The Warriors would have won 5-6 titles if he stayed. Put him in any system/era and he will thrive. With all the different super teams and "LeGM" moves Bron made, in 20 years he never once had a team that was as dominant as the KD Warriors. The Heatles had more talent, but it didn't fit together as well because of Bron's ball dominant style. Not a Durant stan or Bron hater. Bron can be the GOAT (or whoever you like) but to my eyes, the Warriors with KD were playing the best ball I have ever seen.

KD’s basketball skills have NOTHING to do with how many titles he has. If CP3 doesn’t win a title, does that mean he’s not one of the best to play the position? The media is wild. Karl Malone, Stockton, Charles Barkley are incredible players who haven’t won titles. It’s not their fault the bulls did a great job of building around MJ.

He went to a 73-9 team that was just in the finals… That hurt his legacy for sure. Those rings don’t really count.

KD quitting on his team and fans in OKC after choking away a 3-1 series lead against the Warriors and then actually going to join them is the weakest move in the history of not only the NBA but pro sports. I would challenge anybody to find an all time great in any sport who did something like this. It destroyed his legacy and he will always be remembered for doing this rather than how great of a scorer he was. Those championships were meaningless. The Warriors would have won both of them without him.

If KD had stayed after tearing his Achilles, he would’ve been beloved by the fans and local media. Not the same as Steph but it would’ve been close.

i see the ratings are down this month 😂

Glad SAS mentioned the competition. Thats exactly why we’re all still so angry about that move and why those rings don’t count. All KD gotta do is get another one most people will let that narrative go. He’ll go from 0 to 3 rings instantly. I hope he gets there.

Perk is so wrong. Bron didn't go to Cleveland to win it on his own, he made sure he got surrounded by competent players to win. When Bron came back Kyrie was already rocking, so he got Love and a few other players and even then he didn't make the winning shot, it was Kyrie. So Bron should be thankful to Kyrie for that title.

These guys tell half truths.. KD was like Bron.. couldn't win on their own with the teams they had so they both went to chase a ring in places that gave them the best chance on winning. Bron left Miami when he knew time was up with a injured Wade and Bosh Ray Allen retired. So he went back to Cavs to a younger loaded team that again gave him the best chance of winning, then moved on to a talented Lakers team and it worked out.KD went to Brooklyn with a loaded team and a Suns team that just didn't work out.

Why we keep talking about this

KD's legacy debate?!? KD has a legacy??? He won two titles with a team that won before he got there AND won after he left! His rings are worth less than the ones that you get in the plastic bubbles out of the machines at the grocery store!!!

same topic every 3 days

Going to golden state was at the very least an arguable mistake. Leaving golden state was his biggest mistake.

So why will KD be in the HOF? Nah weak player & hasnt done anything on his own…pigging backing on the Warriors, doesn’t make u a HOFer

I think KD could`ve joined San Antonio Spurs in 2016 and still get 2 rings without the backlash

KD and Shaq are the two greatest/most sensitive players....

The mistake was him leaving GSW. Him going there was best for his game and how he plays, so never knocked him for that move. But it’s been a struggle ever since he left.

The fact that this conversation keeps happening says everything. If it didn’t matter nobody would talk about it, call his rings free, say he needs to win elsewhere, etc.

He got swept in the first round. Why is this a ESPN story?

Some people don't want to be leaders. There's NOTHING wrong with that. KD's biggest weakness is that he listens to outside voices and narratives too much

Kd to Miami

Kevin Durant is what we should call the definition of an A- great… looking at his career accolades he hasn’t done too much all this time he’s been a league.

If he stayed they would have 6+ rings. Everyone would forget the narrative in 100 years.

Going to Golden State did not hurt KD's CAREER because he eventually added 2 rings and 2 MVP awards to his resumé. His legacy, however, is a much different story. It was not just that he went to the Warriors; it was also the circumstances surrounding that decision that tarnished his legacy. He took the "easy road" to a championship in many people's eyes (I used to feel that way, but Idc anymore), and the fact that he hasn't gotten past the second round and has had a lot of drama and dysfunction around him since leaving the Warriors while they eventually won another title makes him look worse. However, I think there is a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to KD as well. The Warriors were not a "stacked" roster when he joined them. I doubt that anyone actually has a clear definition of what that term means. The people who claim that he should've stayed in Golden State to win more rings are probably the same ones who criticized him for going there to do that in the first place. The "bus rider" narrative is easy to use against him now considering he really can't be the "bus driver" at this point due to his age and decline. It's also being used to re-write a lot of his career. Even if he was to help another team win a championship, he would still be called a "bus rider" because people are just hypocrites like that. He gets criticized for having won titles with other good or great players who make things easier for him on the court... just like literally every other all-time great player. Overall, he will go down aa an all-time great and one of the best of his generation, but not on the level he could have if he had made a difference choice.

Greatness isn’t just about talent, it’s also about having a competitive spirit. As soon as Durant went to the super team that he choked against in 2016, he lost all credibility. He won 2 cheap, easy rings riding the coattails of 3 other HOF players who knew how to win without him.

The mistake Kevin Durant made was letting the LeBron James fans, and the media promoting LeBron James as the best player ever, convince him to leave Golden State.. I saw it then, the reverse psychology used on Kevin Durant, and he bit.. Now, he won't win another title, not as the main guy

It was a huge mistake to go to Golden State in the first place. He would have won championships anyway in any place but Golden State. It looked like he was taking the easy way out. I have no respect for him doing that.