Sometimes the only thing you get for being a pioneer is an a** full of arrows.

Absolutely. Plus kids can ride in their yards all day long n not piss off the neighbors.

I'm not into working on bikes after work I just wanna do the minimum and go ride. It's about the fun and this looks like it fits that need.

Agreed 👏✌️😉

MEdia

I want job in arena cross racing

Cornering will be dang effortless with it.

500 hours, roughly 300 charge cycles, before battery behind you degrade. Typically drops to 80% charge at that point. New battery is 7k!😵

yikes@@davidpingree9254

@@davidpingree9254 Ouch. So for those that ride a few days a week, and potentially charge the thing 2x each riding day reality smacks you pretty quick.

They won't even last 1.5hrs, even worse if bad conditions. A 3hr gncc will need at least 3 batteries plus in good riding conditions. They are already at the track and don't can't make a 1.5hr race. Gonna be a 24 to 30k bike

@@lway8545 I'm hoping they continue to develop the technology for off-road racing. Yes 3 plus hours is alot and would probably take two battery swaps, but with different "ECU" settings and continued development. It could be possible. They'll probably put a separate class in the morning 2hr race so that it is obtainable. But seriously though, 25-30k on a bike, a drop in the bucket to some of these guys.

That’s a bummer. I might need to bring my 450 to ride while it charges.

Even building a project bike out of these is different!

@@davidpingree9254 It was kind of to be funny as not much you can do. Simple, few moving parts.

Yes, if I had a little time to get comfortable I'd be faster on it for sure. The lack of sound is difficult at first. Hard to get used to but got easier and easier.

Battery is not really made to hot swap. You would almost have to completely disassemble the frame portion.

You seem like the kind of person that would take a FULL ON MOTO ONLY BIKE & line up at a GNCC with the stock tank & bitch about having to remove the empty fuel tank & bolt on a full one every 2 laps or so. Reminds me of the law maker that said that after we shoot all the 30 round magazines, then there won't be any more, because she thought & believed that they came pre-loaded & were not user refillable! Please tell all of us that you are not as dumb as you just made us all think because of the post above?!?!?

Sur-ron Ultra Bee is going to be a way better bike for harescrambles. Battery is swappable on those and cheaper and the lighter weight can be nice in tricky areas imho.

Plus home solar and storage. No (gas/oil) corporation and no government involved.

Instantaneous 40HP on the Alta feels pretty insane and more than enough for most. That’s why I ordered the 60HP version of the Varg!

A normal gas 450 has about 52hp, and the average rider can not even use all that, so 60hp is probably too much. I can not ever see anyone being able to use all the 80hp, that is just ridiculous. I had a 2 stroke Suzuki RM 465 with 53hp for 8 years and it was so fast I never went past 3/4 throttle, and it would lift the front wheel in every gear but 5th at 3/4 throttle. So 50hp is about all anyone would ever need, anything more than that is just overkill.

999$ Costco Inverter generator 240v

How many tracks have gas pumps? Battery pack generator should transfer power quicker.

My guess is in the future you’ll just charge it with your electric truck.

@@amoore2165 gonna take two weeks to get to Loretta Lynn''s national when you gotta stop to recharge your truck every three hours :P

@@amoore2165 Yes. I am about 4,000 on the CT(240 outlet) reservation list. All Oem pickups (Ford already) will have electric option with 240 outlet over next couple years.

well, they had a good run. Does every business have to live for ever? i mean is it because of jobs? As we advance technologically, we enter a level of abundance, where we basically have everything we need. Food, housing, energy.. all will be readily availabe. If anything, we should welcome less jobs, because it means less to do

We had a failure of our lav mic and had to use the shotgun mic audio. Shit happens.

I dont think the big manufacturers will be making a full sze electric motocross or enduro bikes. It would be a bad idea for them to do that. Just like the KTM group with their very very popular 350 engine...their biggest selling model....the Japanese aren't interested. They let ktm have the 350 market uncontested and they will do the same with the electric market. Reason is adding such a model will only take away sales of their existing models, thats why they dont do it. Just think all the pros and cons through carefully..it doesn't make sense for them to build electric mx bikes ,until such time as Stark starts to significantly eat into their combustion engine motocross bike market share. I think that will take a long time to happen. There is obviously very high initial demand for the e bike..but that will settle down very quickly once that initial demand is met. Yearly ongoing sales for Stark will unlikely be cause for alarm with the majors...just like the market for Austrian 350's is not deemed by the Japanese to be enough of a threat for them to invest in it themselves

@@philiprourke7732respectfully disagree… the market will demand the better product, when it becomes undeniable that an E motocross machine is better performing than internal combustion the E bikes will take over and ICE will fade away

@@philiprourke7732 Honda has had a CRE for the better part of 6 years. Kawasaki has already said their entire line of motorcycles will be electric by 2035. And they all have signed battery agreements last year, so it is 100% coming.

@@Marleysdad808 Honda show zero signs of putting their electric prototype into production, Getting on the electric bandwagon and making bold statements that their entire motorcycle range will be electric by 2035, amounts to nothing but lip servicce from Kawasaki...its the thing to do if you wanna get along in the current "" green energy""phase of human insanity...2035 is a very long way away.. Suzuki haven't updated their motocross range for several years so you can pretty much guarantee they wontt go electric either.. Pit Bierer at KTM said they wont be doing it in the foreseeable future... I was privy to a remark from someone I know personally in Yamaha USA offroad r&d and at the time of the Stark Varg announcement he had no knowledge of any emx bike being planned, Im talking an official full Yamaha bike, not some very limited partnership with someone else willing to do all the development.. It was a fight from people within Yamaha USA to get the Japanese to even keep 2 stroke mx bikes in their line up, harder again to get them to update them even slightly for the 2022 model release...they could really rob sales from their 4stroke line , or maybe from KTM, so the slightly updated 2 strokes from Yamaha really only amount to a limited gesture of good will to loyal customers Think about the cost of developing a full size EMX bike from scratch...consider how big the market would actually be 🤔🤔🤔🤔 With vast resources already tied up in building and evolving their current ice bikes...why build one model that might massively reduce sales of existing models? KTM make 125, 250 and 300 cc two strokes. 250, 350, and 450 cc four strokes. So they build a bike that matches the Varg...will they sell just as many of the ice bikes, plus sell enough of the EMX model to make it profitable? Or will they end up selling around the same number of bikes as the e bike robs sales from the gas bikes? Or could they potentially sell less as people who commonly buy say a 125 two stroke and say a 450 four stroke every couple years , cease doing so and just buy one EMX bike instead? And seeing as how the motor will last longer than the chassis, they might keep that bike 5 or 6 years before buying a new one, when they might have bought a new gas bike every year?? A lot to think about here...have you actually REALLY thought it through??

You pick the weight spring you want.

Why do you think a battery will only last a year. The battery is fix not easily swapped.

Because if you want to win, you need fresh batteries, the other guy has fresh batteries. They degrade every time you use them so need to be replaced for top performance, kinda like pistons, rings and valves. BUT much more expensive.@@lawrencefranck9417

I said down TO 80%… that’s only 20 mins

@davidpingree9254 oh gotcha, I thought you said after a 35 minute moto by a pro rider it was down to 20% battery life. That would be the 80 minutes I was talking about.

80hp electric feel way more that 80hp on a gas bike. Torque is always there, no need to rev and other old school stuff

You’ll get 5min battery life in the cold 😂

14k with the 80hp option.

2023 conspiracy fear mongering at its best

This was true 10 years ago.. I’ve been able to mow my lawn (1.5 acres) on one charge with my ego riding mower for the past few years. Way less maintenance than gas. Most people who can afford a new motorcycle don’t need it to last past a few years anyway because they’ll just sell it and buy the next big thing. This bike looks sick

Hybrids are the worst. Complexity of ICE and EVs at the same time. Cars are going full EV anyway, way better batteries than in hybrids.

Bet ya it was a ford

😂😂😂😂It’s a huge growth area for the sport

You should refrain from comments like this until you ride one.