How to get baseboard miters to fit perfectly

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Steve Ramsey - Woodworking for Mere Mortals

Steve Ramsey - Woodworking for Mere Mortals

3 жыл бұрын

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@tmghp
@tmghp 2 жыл бұрын
“Caulk and a gallon of paint will make a carpenter what he ain’t”
@PilotTed
@PilotTed 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@Mr.Phoreskin
@Mr.Phoreskin 2 жыл бұрын
For sure
@abnormallynormal8823
@abnormallynormal8823 2 жыл бұрын
A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain’t
@darrenswails
@darrenswails 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a painter, carpenter always saying "painter 'ill fix it"
@ethanandrews_360
@ethanandrews_360 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, thats rough 😂😂
@pitsnipe5559
@pitsnipe5559 3 жыл бұрын
Working on renovating an old building donated to our church. Showed this method to one of the guys working on it. His response was, “ Where were you ten years ago!”. Ha!
@jonm2416
@jonm2416 3 жыл бұрын
I hope this guy isn't a carpenter bc not knowing how to cope a joint is like a math teacher struggling with subtraction.
@AmbiguousAdventurer
@AmbiguousAdventurer 3 жыл бұрын
In the cheap apartment I live in the walls and ceilings are so out of square that it's like it's built by a drunk. It's so obvious just by eyeballing it.
@sweetchief3548
@sweetchief3548 3 жыл бұрын
What's with the bloody pentagram/ skull 💀???
@sweetchief3548
@sweetchief3548 3 жыл бұрын
@RadovanZunja69 0:20
@sweetchief3548
@sweetchief3548 3 жыл бұрын
@RadovanZunja69 you can see it more clearly in the tik tok video but on the wall behind the chop saw there is an upside down pentagram/ skull and it's bleeding.
@Myl0696
@Myl0696 2 жыл бұрын
As we say, “do your best, and caulk the rest”
@TheChemistBeats
@TheChemistBeats 2 жыл бұрын
this advice left me with a child and no way to provide for him.
@zackdavis9654
@zackdavis9654 2 жыл бұрын
Lil puddy Lil paint makes a carpenter who he aint
@joemamma6162
@joemamma6162 Жыл бұрын
The hack philosophy
@joemamma6162
@joemamma6162 Жыл бұрын
@@Squatchie82 biggest difference is with expansion and contraction, miters don’t hold aswell. For diy projects, I’d recommend miters, for pros, we use coping method.
@joemamma6162
@joemamma6162 Жыл бұрын
@@Squatchie82 if you’re a pro you would know mitering inside corners on base or crown can be hard to get tight without damaging drywall. Coping trim allows very tight allowances while simply interlocking one end of the trim into the other. If you havnt coped trim before, it’s understandable why u wouldn’t like the idea of it
@fc_gaming3196
@fc_gaming3196 2 жыл бұрын
"Walls are rarely 90°" My house: are you sure about that? Legit whoever made my house were perfectionists
@irenechojnowski4060
@irenechojnowski4060 2 жыл бұрын
The people who made my house must have been on pure black tar heroin.
@AidanTheGaymer
@AidanTheGaymer 2 жыл бұрын
@@irenechojnowski4060 honestly tho
@liquidsleepgames3661
@liquidsleepgames3661 2 жыл бұрын
@@irenechojnowski4060 why are non of the pipes copper.
@3cheese711
@3cheese711 2 жыл бұрын
@@liquidsleepgames3661 new houses just use hoses instead of copper. Its way easier to install and they dont corrode.
@3cheese711
@3cheese711 2 жыл бұрын
@Jack Sparrow yes but the pipes still do wear away with time and get holes, that is what i meant.
@ElizabethSwims
@ElizabethSwims 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like over handling squirrely Dan
@jamesbarnousky1270
@jamesbarnousky1270 3 жыл бұрын
Well then he'd be squirrely Dandling it
@Nick_Jones
@Nick_Jones 3 жыл бұрын
Let's take aboot 20% off there big shoots.
@scotttracey5331
@scotttracey5331 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the top comment is a string of letterkenny quotes. 💪
@antoniolaracuente437
@antoniolaracuente437 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotttracey5331 ''''''''''''''''' ..
@williammclaughlin412
@williammclaughlin412 2 жыл бұрын
To beh faiiiiyaaaaaaa... To be fair it was a good tip for those of use with a higher attention to detail
@davidshevchuk8885
@davidshevchuk8885 3 жыл бұрын
As a painter (aka the guy who caulks the baseboards) I love seeing these clean seams, shows someone cares about what they are doing.
@YoursTruelyDanger
@YoursTruelyDanger 3 жыл бұрын
Bro for real
@zaneturner9223
@zaneturner9223 3 жыл бұрын
I did two 45angles for the floor I did in our house and it came punt almost perfect guess I got lucky and my corners really were 90 degrees
@PepperDarlington
@PepperDarlington 3 жыл бұрын
You got money as a buyer or a builder to let your mexicans run coping saws all day? Nah. The blame is all across the board, son. Pressure on the General to get the job done, pressure from the market to sell, buyers like more room vs quality accountrements. Hence the silicone and 45s on unsquare walls. Poorer building materials made from fast growth timber. Y'all paint huffing van jockeys ain't no bigger shits than the dude moving dirt to get the footers dug. Eat that ego, son.
@davidshevchuk8885
@davidshevchuk8885 3 жыл бұрын
@@PepperDarlington thank God I've never had the pleasure of working with someone as detail oriented as you.
@SoulJa709
@SoulJa709 3 жыл бұрын
@@PepperDarlington the average trim guy can cope just as fast as mitre. Also most house (atleast the ones I've built) they subcontract everything so that would be part of the trim crews bid. Which would come down the preference. Coping is less chance of having to come back for small repairs.
@jeffhiles5712
@jeffhiles5712 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day all inside corners we're done that way. My Dad taught me this and I get a perfect corner every time. Thanks Dad!
@mundaysappliancerepairs1065
@mundaysappliancerepairs1065 Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome son
@FargoMan50
@FargoMan50 2 жыл бұрын
Learned that in the 80's, We called it a coped 45°corner joint! It really speeds up doing trim work in newer houses.
@cookieman136
@cookieman136 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most concise, yet thorough guide to coping baseboard in the history of the KZfaq’s. Well done, sir!
@patrick860
@patrick860 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and I can't believe how simple he made it! You're good , Steve.
@SteveRamsey
@SteveRamsey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sn5656
@sn5656 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Cookieman136... @@SteveRamsey just happens being that level of a weirdly goofball kinda dude... Can only speak for myself in saying: It's good share of why he has my subscription. Yuh~know?
@richardpatterson4312
@richardpatterson4312 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, turns out 55 seconds is more than enough! That's what Ramsey tells the ladies anyway...
@davidgeorge8541
@davidgeorge8541 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardpatterson4312 it’s his “coping” mechanism...
@alexisazuara9649
@alexisazuara9649 3 жыл бұрын
My father legendary saying “fix it with caulking”
@oscarvalenzuela1830
@oscarvalenzuela1830 3 жыл бұрын
Bro exactly
@KE458S
@KE458S 3 жыл бұрын
Caulk and paint made a carpenter what he ain't
@RevengeServer
@RevengeServer 3 жыл бұрын
@@KE458S weird, I remember when I was a painter I was cleaning up more after carpenters than they were of me. ( ironic since painters are literally one of the last to leave the job site ) caulk and shavings plug them holes daily.
@Absalonian
@Absalonian 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@tjrosser5814
@tjrosser5814 3 жыл бұрын
Caulking is for finishing carpenters who don't care about quality. Ask a painter
@CorvusCorps
@CorvusCorps 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting so this kind of stuff will show up in my feed instead tiktok voice over cra. Keep it up dude
@miffedcuttlefish6139
@miffedcuttlefish6139 10 ай бұрын
Same! This is stuff everyone needs to know
@tylerfoster8713
@tylerfoster8713 2 жыл бұрын
*Me, covering myself at night with cold sweats:* “W-what angles are the walls...?”
@ananymousincrypd4296
@ananymousincrypd4296 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@johnspence8141
@johnspence8141 Жыл бұрын
361 degrees
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith Жыл бұрын
depends on the season lol and the position of the earth's crust in relation to the sun
@SawStriker
@SawStriker Жыл бұрын
more like 80 something degrees. the drywall mud and paint always bumps the corners out a little
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was a carpenter, he showed me this trick. You can rub the edge with a carpenter pencil before your cut it with the coping saw.
@joeschmoe511
@joeschmoe511 3 жыл бұрын
Scribing is what you're referring to.
@teresatodd5832
@teresatodd5832 3 жыл бұрын
And what does rubbing the edge with a carpenter pencil before using the coping saw do?
@ScottReynolds003
@ScottReynolds003 3 жыл бұрын
@@teresatodd5832 nothing
@beralius8584
@beralius8584 2 жыл бұрын
@@teresatodd5832 on some trim, it helps you see the cope line much easier, such as unpainted trim.
@EclecticMystic
@EclecticMystic 3 жыл бұрын
Tip from a pro who does this almost every day: Most baseboard going into homes has a big flat spot on the bottom of the profile, just like the stuff Steve is using. It's easier and faster to cut this stuff upside down in the miter saw. Do the 45 cut Steve does first, then move the saw blade to 3 degrees the other way, and use the miter saw to do the back cut on the flat part. Then you only need to cope the profile by hand, which can save you a lot of time. And always cut your cope first, and then cut the piece to length. With MDF becoming the standard for trim, it can chip easily when coping. If it does, it's easier to just redo the whole cut, so leave yourself room to trim to size last.
@lauralaforge558
@lauralaforge558 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a video that shows this? I am a beginner and having a hard time visualizing. Your written instructions are good but I want to be 100% sure I understand.
@lauralaforge558
@lauralaforge558 3 жыл бұрын
one more question-does it matter which piece I cope? For instance, is it ok to have some boards where neither end is coped? or should i do one 90 and one coped on each?
@G0F15H
@G0F15H 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauralaforge558 It's easier to only cope one end of a board (and that's what he's saying to do first, in his second paragraph. That way if you mess up you don't have to scrap the whole board). You run a great risk of the board not being the correct length and having to keep redoing it or settling with big gap if you cope both ends of the same board. Sequence goes like this: Put down board A with a square cut in the first corner (odds are the other end will be square too because it will meet up to a door jam). Cope board B to meet up with board A, then measure how long board B needs to be and cut the other end of the board B square. Install board B. Then cope board C to meet up with the square cut on board B and cut board C to length. And on and on, working your way around the whole room.
@lauralaforge558
@lauralaforge558 3 жыл бұрын
If I hypothetically have walls shaped like a U (not curved) at the bottom, I could do one piece not coped and then the two sides would be coped at the bottom. That's what I meant. I figured this way, I could do my longest wall straight cuts only. Thanks for the reply. I will read and reread.
@Electric_City_RC
@Electric_City_RC 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that someone mentioned cutting the flat with the saw. Quick, easy, simple.
@wormguy6851
@wormguy6851 2 жыл бұрын
To me, this is heaven. I'm an interior painter and we fix all the dry wall and baseboard f*** ups, and this its something I really wish we took the time to do. Thank you
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw this trick was from Leah over at See Jane Drill, but it never gets old. Thanks for this demo and for helping mitigate that feeling we need 100% perfection in miters and woodworking.
@cyanidetrece
@cyanidetrece 3 жыл бұрын
I first saw this done on "This Old House" when I was a kid years ago . I knew about it, I just didn't understand why it was done. Now I do. Thanks!
@shopart1488
@shopart1488 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video been doing this for over 50 years. And yes it does work very well. Always remember do your best caulk the rest.
@jefferyjones4727
@jefferyjones4727 2 жыл бұрын
For those wondering why the inside corners of your house are rarely perfectly square, the answer is that the framing might be a little out of square, but it's typically the drywall and mudding that's put in corners that often put it out of square
@captainloli2416
@captainloli2416 3 жыл бұрын
This is the type of shorts that make me enjoy youtube. Great stuff
@lucidwolf2068
@lucidwolf2068 3 жыл бұрын
So cool to see! I have been working in remodeling homes with my dad for 5 years now he has shown me this method, nice to see other people use it
@Shabam.01
@Shabam.01 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a true carpenter that doesn’t butt baseboard
@thebaddestlarry9424
@thebaddestlarry9424 3 жыл бұрын
No true carpenter butts baseboard. We can cope baseboard in our sleep
@Shabam.01
@Shabam.01 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebaddestlarry9424 I know that’s wat I said
@jamusmorrison3073
@jamusmorrison3073 3 жыл бұрын
I use a jig saw to cope base and crown.
@chrisburns5691
@chrisburns5691 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone really bother mitering inside corners with flat stock? I just but them, often a nicer result and faster. Anything with a profile gets coped.
@Shabam.01
@Shabam.01 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisburns5691 I’m with you. If it has a curve it gets coped
@careya
@careya 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of this for non-pros I’ve ever seen. Thanks!
@ValHemi265
@ValHemi265 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Thats how we do it in New Zealand as well my handyman mate. We fill in too. Done and dusted. Tools in the van, Job done, knock off at 5pm, home, shower, dinner, kids, RUGBY!!!!!!!!! Winning!!!!!!!!
@creepincat7399
@creepincat7399 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video. I was running into this issue, and I wasn't sure how to do the coping. easier then i thought
@MarceloFreitas70
@MarceloFreitas70 3 жыл бұрын
Genius tip!!!! It's the second time I see you using a hand tool in all those past years. Historical moment. Haha. Thank you for sharing.
@SteveRamsey
@SteveRamsey 3 жыл бұрын
😂 Thanks Marcelo!
@bryandonahue8302
@bryandonahue8302 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always suprised when I actually find a useful tool video! That's a very interesting technique
@slackmartin7610
@slackmartin7610 2 жыл бұрын
In sweden we always do straight clean cuts in inner corners. It looks good and always works, we only do the 45 angles on outer corners
@tellthemborissentyou
@tellthemborissentyou 3 жыл бұрын
I cut pairs of scrap base board at 45 left and 45 right, another pair at 44 left and right and a third pair at 46 left and right on the mitre saw. Label them and keep them in a bucket under the mitre saw. Use these to test each corner and figure which pair work and set your saw to that.
@mattberg6816
@mattberg6816 3 жыл бұрын
Coping is the proper way to do it and a lot faster once you get the hang of it
@buck19
@buck19 2 жыл бұрын
That's fine for outside corners.
@coyotecom
@coyotecom 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most important thing I've ever learned on KZfaq that didn't involve a explosion.
@marshalllhiepler
@marshalllhiepler 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome for you, Bud! Now ... Here's lesson #2: Always use the word "an" when preceeding a word that begins with a vowel. Example: That's the most important thing I've ever learned on KZfaq, that didn't involve an explosion.
@voxelemur
@voxelemur 3 жыл бұрын
If you have time to do this it's either going to be on your own house or the customer is paying premium.
@lowcountryantiques3696
@lowcountryantiques3696 2 жыл бұрын
Wait for it, Wait for it, 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥 It's over now....
@alanratay4583
@alanratay4583 Жыл бұрын
Coping corners is way easier than you think. He did a good job describing how. Also, when you walk in a room you want to look past the coped edge. Put the board that isn’t coped against the wall you would see first when you walk in.
@Quinn37
@Quinn37 Жыл бұрын
I cope with a jigsaw. Keep a sharp blade and your way faster than a coping saw. Further I don't often cope painted base. It is rarely so far out that the difference is worth the time. This is more useful for stained trim, where you need perfect miters to look good when finished
@butwait
@butwait 3 жыл бұрын
If you fill it in with caulking anyway, than why go through all this extra effort? You could have stopped at step 1 and caulked it. Same thing
@JT-xf7ti
@JT-xf7ti 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Cut 45/45 fix gap with caulk. Or go through 5 times the time 3 times the effort and then fix with caulk. 2, 45’s can be cut in about 20 seconds total. Then the YouRube community: OMG this is the greatest hack ever. 😂 🤪
@Scott_G
@Scott_G 3 жыл бұрын
Where was this video last fall when I put in new baseboards Steve?
@amazoniancustodian
@amazoniancustodian 3 жыл бұрын
It was in the future Scott, where’s your time machine Scott? What will we do Scott ??!?
@redsmoke4502
@redsmoke4502 3 жыл бұрын
@@amazoniancustodian Well the obvious solution is to make a time machine!!!
@Scott_G
@Scott_G 3 жыл бұрын
@@redsmoke4502 Next time on WWMM, how to make a time machine. :)
@ahassan3557
@ahassan3557 3 жыл бұрын
This comment section was truly wholesome.
@collindolan5493
@collindolan5493 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 comment of the year
@stevethomas5849
@stevethomas5849 2 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this for years. It worked a treat. We in the UK call it skirting board, the varied applications of the English language
@DanB626
@DanB626 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Where was this video 6 months ago! Thanks, this actually helps someone like me who doesn't have a ton of experience and is always looking for a better way
@carsonc1272
@carsonc1272 3 жыл бұрын
Or you measure the degrees in the corner, divide that number by two, and set your saw at that number. It works perfectly every time.
@jfdb59
@jfdb59 3 жыл бұрын
True. But stuff moves and mitered angles can and will open up. Coped joints won't. Especially since most good guys will cut the piece a bit long and bend the board into place. When you push it flat, it pushes super tight at the joints compressing them. Then you get seamless looking joints that stay tight.
@JamesJamesly
@JamesJamesly 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but I gotta have this place trimmed out today, not three weeks from today
@tomjohnson5713
@tomjohnson5713 3 жыл бұрын
Not true. So very not triue
@jwbosworth3636
@jwbosworth3636 3 жыл бұрын
The title should say “how to cope baseboards”.
@penispuncher247
@penispuncher247 3 жыл бұрын
Cope
@jwbosworth3636
@jwbosworth3636 3 жыл бұрын
@@penispuncher247 what? We’re you trying to correct my correct spelling?
@penispuncher247
@penispuncher247 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwbosworth3636 cope harder
@demo3456
@demo3456 3 жыл бұрын
At least someone thought that too.
@Sarcastican_
@Sarcastican_ 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this "coping saw" will stop me from drinking wine.
@bjrngundersen4452
@bjrngundersen4452 2 жыл бұрын
Negative.
@saorise28
@saorise28 2 жыл бұрын
It could if used the wrong way
@littlemissy8356
@littlemissy8356 2 жыл бұрын
It'll start you up drinking.
@strumcitywoodswater413
@strumcitywoodswater413 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lays base every week, no one has trouble with base on inside corners lmao.
@Ryan-gr6ee
@Ryan-gr6ee 2 жыл бұрын
Laying all that base but no pipe huh
@strumcitywoodswater413
@strumcitywoodswater413 2 жыл бұрын
Do what? Only when your mother needs her plumbing fixed.
@Ryan-gr6ee
@Ryan-gr6ee 2 жыл бұрын
@@strumcitywoodswater413 you get no bitches
@PercLeclerc
@PercLeclerc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-gr6ee that’s a fact.
@sxptxmbxrx8543
@sxptxmbxrx8543 2 жыл бұрын
i dont believe you because as someone who’s been renovating a house i can say i’ve had trouble with almost every single one. the house is crooked af. this is helpful. you get NO bitches
@alexp974
@alexp974 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think I’m a relatively smart individual, and then I see something like this that I never would have thought of...
@robertsnyder5531
@robertsnyder5531 3 жыл бұрын
I use a degree finder for crown and base tells me exact cut everytime
@jgreenbaum7609
@jgreenbaum7609 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Works every time.
@thebaddestlarry9424
@thebaddestlarry9424 3 жыл бұрын
Crown yeah, but isn't it way slower for Baseboard? Baseboard is easy if you just cut it at a little more then 45 you should be good if the framers and drywall guys aren't absolute trash.
@shadowstalker6762
@shadowstalker6762 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebaddestlarry9424 you already know the framers and drywallers are trash lol i wish i could walk in a house and not see the windows pushed out of the hole a half inch
@chrisburns5691
@chrisburns5691 3 жыл бұрын
Should still cope inside corners, stays tighter over time.
@jonm2416
@jonm2416 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely doesn't work every time. Is your angle finder 10 feet long? How flexible is you molding? Are the walls plumb? Flat? Coping does work most everytime.
@JonathanDavidsonn
@JonathanDavidsonn 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip and instructions! I never even thought of googling/searching this but I'm about to install skirting boards in my new kitchen and this just randomly appeared through stories, this trick is gonna make my life so much easier! Is there also a trick to matching two boards in the opposite way where the corner is sticking out? Or is it the same trick too?
@Steve-ec6ed
@Steve-ec6ed Жыл бұрын
Whomever built my house had a motto "thats close enough"
@paulc728
@paulc728 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a lot more work than just adding caulking
@jerrodbates8480
@jerrodbates8480 3 жыл бұрын
Haha As long as its white just caulk your shitty miters
@josuetrujillo5570
@josuetrujillo5570 3 жыл бұрын
I always do 45° cuts for normal corners. I take my time and get the measurements right, but if your having this issue it's a lot faster to angle the board a bit and trim off the inner edges. The closer to the face the boards can meet; the more seamless it looks
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
You got me thinking and I came up with this. Base boards were invented to prevent wall kick outs.If the people who build the walls were to install kick boards behind the walls you would not need baseboards. Just a nicely placed painters tape and caulk and paint. All done. On the other hand nice work. Much better than the other way.
@simplychristal6526
@simplychristal6526 2 жыл бұрын
This tip is gold.
@daviddura1172
@daviddura1172 3 жыл бұрын
When you miter cut it.... turn your saw back to 90 degrees and cut most of the straight cut with the miter saw. Use the coping saw just to cut the squiggles at the top....
@PGGraham
@PGGraham 3 жыл бұрын
This and a flap disk is what I teach my apprentices
@theroadnottaken9378
@theroadnottaken9378 Жыл бұрын
you will get a tighter fit if you slightly 'bevel' your straight cut, just as you would do with coping saw, but yes, you have the right idea.
@theroadnottaken9378
@theroadnottaken9378 Жыл бұрын
but to take coping base one step further as someone already mentioned is a flap disk or a coping foot on a jig saw, both of which are not really for beginner woodworkers but more for production trim installers.
@Mhj96813
@Mhj96813 3 жыл бұрын
I recently saw Rob cosman demonstrate howto do this for trim around the inside of a box or drawer. He took well over 1/2 hr to show howto do it. He is much more fussy. He is building fine furniture. I thought the contrast was funny.
@jaybothebig
@jaybothebig 2 жыл бұрын
Wish all builders were so neat.
@mariomurillo4822
@mariomurillo4822 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent,the best way to do it Many Carpenter don't do it just because they don't want to spend a little more time and do it right this is the strongest and durable way to do it..
@aximomatic
@aximomatic 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip, however you missed the part that eleminates the gap you end up with in the video. The avoid the gap place a ruler om the piece you are going to cut 45 degrees while pushing it up against the straight cutted piece. Draw a line along the edge og the ruler om the board. Now make the 45 degree cut along that line. Problem solved. 😁
@1001nancymcmillan
@1001nancymcmillan 3 жыл бұрын
Niiiiiice
@stariadversesmalum4638
@stariadversesmalum4638 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao I like how we has a little notch that fits perfectly. Everyone else is going to butcher this technique I bet 😂
@stariadversesmalum4638
@stariadversesmalum4638 3 жыл бұрын
@Am I Demon No it’s not 😂 have you ever done crown molding!? I have and it’s a bitch.
@stariadversesmalum4638
@stariadversesmalum4638 3 жыл бұрын
@Am I Demon Sure doesn’t seem like it.
@cid4887
@cid4887 3 жыл бұрын
@Am I Demon super common but you didn't even dare sharing it. After someone does, now you claim it's common? Pity on you.
@cid4887
@cid4887 3 жыл бұрын
@Am I Demon nah. If you always see it in your so called construction company then you have no place bragging here. Stick to the suburbs of your construction company and dig a hole for your so called common technique. Show a link on how you did this.
@ewdtrey
@ewdtrey 3 жыл бұрын
It's common enough that it has a name: coping And it is very common. If you didn't know what it was you'd be laughed off most jobsites
@mango-eb8jt
@mango-eb8jt 2 жыл бұрын
My foreman taught me this my first time doing interior work, thought it was pretty nifty
@jajuanrussell5386
@jajuanrussell5386 2 жыл бұрын
When I used to do a lot of insulation and remodeling work, this "seemed" to work really well. What I found out by maintaining working relationships with customers is that bugs really enjoy the comforts of those tiny voids in trim and decor. So, your work will look nice, but there is a chance that some 6 legged creature will use your work to evade discovery and untimely death.
@Arrogan28
@Arrogan28 2 жыл бұрын
Just fill it then with some calking if you are that woried about it then you have even less space than the tradition cut. That is pretty much like 1-2min fix per corner to put the calking on it and wipe the excess that comes through the seam. Good point though… but there are many choices for fillers in todays toolbox…
@ScamstinCrew
@ScamstinCrew 3 жыл бұрын
also pro DIY'er tip. get enough extra to do a few practice pieces of whatever your doing. Laying flooring -> Start where its unseen so you get all your practice in there and when you get to main areas you have it down pat. The difference between a Journeyman and an apprentice is they know how to hide the crimes. Love your concise and down to earth methods keep it up Steve.
@Suriyasvanidze
@Suriyasvanidze 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you have to start from the entrance laying down flooring. This way all cuts will be made at the opposite end. It will show large uncut pieces and hide (or make it less visible) small cut pieces. With smaller rooms I start from the center so all cuts are equal on all sides.
@leoo1880
@leoo1880 3 жыл бұрын
I use to do touch up in new houses and honestly it doesn't matter. The base could be like the first example and just filling it with caulking would make it look better after a coat of paint.
@codymacaulay1435
@codymacaulay1435 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is caulk shrinks. It looks good at first but then as soon as winter hits you're left with gaps. Coping avoids this problem.
@anthony4308
@anthony4308 3 жыл бұрын
@@codymacaulay1435 you could use non-shrinking caulk. Also depends on what the homeowner wants and if you're paid hourly or by the job.
@BadDreamFucker
@BadDreamFucker 3 жыл бұрын
Key phrase: Used to. Do it right the first time.
@lisakukla459
@lisakukla459 3 жыл бұрын
Or you could spend 5 extra seconds and do it properly.
@codymacaulay1435
@codymacaulay1435 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisakukla459 exactly. It doesn't take long to cope. Plus you don't have to fight any poor angles. If you're gonna get paid to do a job be honest and do it right.
@brandonweinmann5700
@brandonweinmann5700 3 жыл бұрын
I would flip the base board upside down and do the back cut with the saw then just cope out the contour by hand. It can be faster for some people, slower for others lol
@bobos245
@bobos245 3 жыл бұрын
And you get a straighter joint every time
@healthdios
@healthdios 2 жыл бұрын
I messed up my kitchen baseboard corners. ... now I'm coping by watching this video.
@gaijininja
@gaijininja 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. Now I know why most places I have seen have corners that look like that. Except the house I grew up in, made in 1958, where every corner was exactly 90°, and every join was cut at 45°. Even after 53 years, all joins are still closed tight.
@RuminatingWizard
@RuminatingWizard 3 жыл бұрын
BS. Even if it was built perfect, and nothing is, buildings move.
@gaijininja
@gaijininja 3 жыл бұрын
@@RuminatingWizard Yeah, it has sunk slightly, but still stands perfectly vertical, and no corner has broken open in 53 years. In fact, most of the 600 houses in the suburb are the same. Built strong and square by extremely hard workers in a time when long lasting and pride in work was the norm, rather than the exception. Meanwhile, a house I had built 5 years ago, had EVERY corner joint open within a few months. In fact, one external brick wall had moved an INCH across the foundation slab. Well beyond the typical concrete shrinkage. Offloaded that disaster real quick, and vowed never to build again. I'm currently in a 25y0 rental, that only has had a small issue of plasterboard nails slightly pulling out of the ceiling in that time.
@lyricderbin1169
@lyricderbin1169 3 жыл бұрын
Eliminate the gap with a different type of gap, even though we're going to caulk it anyway.
@rm5282
@rm5282 3 жыл бұрын
Most times there isn't a gap. Even if there is a gap, it looks cleaner and easier to make the facade with a cope thanit is with 45° angled cuts. I learned to do this 10 years ago for baseboards and chair rail molding.
@zack6892
@zack6892 3 жыл бұрын
They look better if you just miter the angle usually 44 will make tight inside corners that don’t need filled. Using caulk on white base or shoe looks terrible and it only gets worst after install eventually will turn yellow and hold dirt and hair. Ideally the homeowner would have it painted but that’s not always the case. Only thing that should be sealed are the tops if you’ve got wavy drywall.
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 Жыл бұрын
"How to get perfect corner. that cap i would fill with caulking." Really perfect. I have never coped any trim and never needed any caulking. If you can't cut few simple miter for sure you can't build rest of house.
@BShandyman
@BShandyman 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This just saved me countless hours and headaches!
@raidersrockk
@raidersrockk 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that would take forever. Now imagine applying that on a 2000 sqft house .. hallways, closets, living spaces ect
@bryceprimary2024
@bryceprimary2024 3 жыл бұрын
If I had a house contracted and I saw ugly gaps showing up and things like doors that aren’t plum then I would just tell the contractors to leave cause pretty much after drywall I’m capable of doing and would rather pay for experience, time savings, and quality.
@frankvadnais3536
@frankvadnais3536 3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t take forever. It might take about an hour more for a good Carpenter to cope all the joints versus mitering them on a 2000 square-foot house. And you get a way better product.
@kleinfeicht
@kleinfeicht 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankvadnais3536 most angles can be perfectly done in a good miter saw... and while getting the degree is also not a huge problem atleast on my Festool KS60
@mainpage725
@mainpage725 3 жыл бұрын
I know.what you mean tomas I was a trim carpenter theres tricks you learn to not.cope in a corner and make it look great.
@mainpage725
@mainpage725 3 жыл бұрын
Without caulking too.
@r.f.1935
@r.f.1935 3 жыл бұрын
Or if use a grinder with a sander disc! Take a few pieces to practice and will make this process a lot easier and faster!👍🏻
@MicahFunk
@MicahFunk 3 жыл бұрын
I think this technique is better illustrated by using stain-grade baseboard because having tight corners is much more critical. And to any of the self-proclaimed 'carpenters' saying who notices a gap, it is noticed but not in the way you perhaps think it is. Having tight miters and crisp clean lines in a job all comes together to make one beautiful job that says that you took pride in your work and are worth what you charge. The homeowner will not always see the specific miters but they see the overall work and love it. They will usually refer you to others and call you back for any other related jobs. The contractor, if they are not a slum-lord type of contactor and also prides themselves in quality work, they will want to hire someone capable of delivering quality that will impress their customers.
@oq17
@oq17 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use a test piece to tweak the angles by a degree or two . It’s very fast with a chop saw . In the end the guy said to use a little caulk anyway - lol
@ayeoooo
@ayeoooo 2 жыл бұрын
@Howie Feltersnatch wrong! Try to cope 50 corners in a day bud
@emstink
@emstink 2 жыл бұрын
@Howie Feltersnatch wow. Toxic
@emstink
@emstink 2 жыл бұрын
@Howie Feltersnatch Don't wear tampons. Also, "you are tampons needs changing" doesn't make sense.
@whjerts
@whjerts 3 жыл бұрын
Even after you do what I just showed you, and you still have a gap, just fill in with caulk.
@ZackPyle
@ZackPyle 3 жыл бұрын
And you might as well just do two 45* cuts, caulk it, and be done lol
@Hows_Ur_Oulwan
@Hows_Ur_Oulwan 3 жыл бұрын
Still a cleaner job doing it this way.. fair it’s a bit more time consuming than ripping 2 45s down the boards but you know yourself what a bad gap filled with caulk looks like. This always leaves minimal clean up 👍
@u.s.militia7682
@u.s.militia7682 3 жыл бұрын
Right on.
@anthonycapolingua4898
@anthonycapolingua4898 3 жыл бұрын
1/16th gap he had was what caulk is for its paint grade its not stain grade big difference still cleaner than 2 back miters with shrinking caulk in there
@wingerrrrrrrrr
@wingerrrrrrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
If it's stained and not painted, and caulking isn't to be used, the coping method seems the way to go. Otherwise, could the angle of the wall corner be measured and the ends cut together to the custom angle needed?
@AdrianH53
@AdrianH53 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that a wall is RARRLY at 90° angles is concerning lol 😆
@ronnieves2398
@ronnieves2398 3 жыл бұрын
I think is because of the drywall compound being added.
@genesis209_gd
@genesis209_gd 3 жыл бұрын
In my old house, no wall was at a 90° angle. Not even the floor was straight. But that's to be expected form a 1757 house.
@user-qj9hn4wc9q
@user-qj9hn4wc9q 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronnieves2398 correct or just shitty dry liners in most case lol, site work anyway
@Celticshade
@Celticshade 3 жыл бұрын
Just cutting and adjusting the angles to fit without a gap is better than coping in my opinion. Also more satisfying and easier.
@wiz4020
@wiz4020 Жыл бұрын
Good job for a diy'er. Coping the inside corners are definitely the way to go, for a professional job. What I used to do is use the miter saw to cut the straight part of the baseboard and just cope the top of the base. Caulk and paint. If your working with trim that's going to be stained, take extra time, for a perfect fit.
@ScottReynolds003
@ScottReynolds003 3 жыл бұрын
In reality, if you're doing trim that's going to be painted just 45 it. It will be much faster and the caulking will hide the imperfections. Remember, time is money 💰
@joshuaennis1502
@joshuaennis1502 3 жыл бұрын
Thats if your painting it lol some people like the pre painted foam shit for whatever reason
@emeric7303
@emeric7303 3 жыл бұрын
You could find the pitch and adjust your saw, or use caulk in the first place. No one other then the guy putting it up is going to look that hard at the base board.
@cctrusty6728
@cctrusty6728 2 жыл бұрын
Hack, the caulking will push out as the house settles or moves with the seasons. If it's a fire restoration in the projects with a low budget, I get it... still don't make it right..
@michaelmcgee2026
@michaelmcgee2026 2 жыл бұрын
@@cctrusty6728 also the caulk is guaranteed to shrink
@jansolo7963
@jansolo7963 Жыл бұрын
Some miter saw like the smaller one from festool have adjustable fences. That way you can take your bevel gauge to take the exact bevel from the corner and copy it with your fence. Perfect miter and it saves so much time
@likewow111
@likewow111 2 жыл бұрын
I really never cared about this but I continued watching because it seems so satisfying to know
@simonbenn5340
@simonbenn5340 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 36 years old now. I learned this from a 90 year old guy when I was 15 years old. I won't 45⁰ basboard I'll always cope it.
@ericalvarado6521
@ericalvarado6521 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t to time consuming to do it every time
@61lastchild
@61lastchild 3 жыл бұрын
Rarely? How about never? Ive never met a true 90 in any house, apartment or cabin...
@thebaddestlarry9424
@thebaddestlarry9424 3 жыл бұрын
Never
@shadowstalker6762
@shadowstalker6762 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see theres real carpenters out there that actually know cheers boys keep makin that sawdust!
@numberonepw8794
@numberonepw8794 3 жыл бұрын
Never gonna happen unless it's an accident. The level of detail between framing and finish isn't even comparable. They just slap that shit up close to a chalk line, then the sheet rock goes up (and thats usually half-assed anyways) so coming out with a 90 is one in a million. Thats why those of us who know our shit because we were taught right and take pride in our work know how to work with such things 😉
@wingerrrrrrrrr
@wingerrrrrrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
How many degrees off are the typical corners? Is it a range of +/- 2°, or 88° to 92° ? How far out does it have to go before it's considered unusual?
@numberonepw8794
@numberonepw8794 3 жыл бұрын
@@wingerrrrrrrrr all depends on your framers which goes back to the builder and what they're willing to spend, what they're willing to cut corners on, how fast they want to move, if they're an asshole or not - that reflects in his framing crew, mud slingers and so on
@ifp8624
@ifp8624 Жыл бұрын
I love how everyone talks about inside corners and coping but if the wall is not parallel with the other wall you can have the same problem
@jimoleesyt1577
@jimoleesyt1577 2 жыл бұрын
I like this technique. I've used it many times.
@YamiLionheart
@YamiLionheart 3 жыл бұрын
I never found it overly difficult to adjust the miter off of 45 a degree or two. You get decent at guessing the angle after doing a few corners and is think it's faster than cutting that by hand.
@edgarpryor3233
@edgarpryor3233 2 жыл бұрын
Faster? Possibly, but a coped corner will hold up much better as the house settles and expands/contracts over time.
@ccampbell7214
@ccampbell7214 2 жыл бұрын
So much faster if you just buzz it off with a sanding pad on a grinder.. nobody in the trades that I work have done it like that since we've had power tools.. same principle as this guy but much faster..
@edgarpryor3233
@edgarpryor3233 2 жыл бұрын
@@ccampbell7214 I've done it that way, with a jig saw, and with a coping saw, depending on which works best for the profile.
@YamiLionheart
@YamiLionheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgarpryor3233 makes sense, I've only done molding for one room in my house and we left the place shortly after I did that so didn't get to see the long term results
@calebz1448
@calebz1448 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgarpryor3233 that issue can be fixed by using the correct fastener. Trim nails are emergency use only. Countersink screws are the only way to do wood trim period. I have drywall over lathe boards and trust me no matter how many metal toothpicks you put in it the board will fall off. Bowed boards and walls? No problems with screws. Wood expansion? No problem with screws and a properly air conditioned house(which mine is not and had zero issues in 4 years after my install). If you are talking super longevity over 15-20 years the answer remains the same, screws outperform nails every single time in every way except installer convenience
@somerandomgoogleuser3374
@somerandomgoogleuser3374 2 жыл бұрын
In N.Z. we call this technique, in carpentry, a "Secret Mitre", - i guess the secret is, that it's not really a mitre joint at all but a butt joint.... We use this technique on a lot of trim work....
@jamesbrother9597
@jamesbrother9597 Жыл бұрын
This is the old school way of doing it. Good to see the old ways, helps appreciate new techniques. I still don't own that saw though.
@carleduave2022
@carleduave2022 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This is valuable information to a 16 year old
@stevearttus8164
@stevearttus8164 3 жыл бұрын
This is called coping....with a coping saw. Professionals do it everyday.
@Oatma
@Oatma 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: when you have a lot of base to do and you gotta knock it out fast, use an angle grinder with a sanding disc to cut your cope!
@matthewh8573
@matthewh8573 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! That’s all I ever use … in a hurry or not. It’s just simply easier.👍😁
@indykurt
@indykurt 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a table saw set up, slide your trim across the blade after your 45*. In other words, remove the guard and push the trim as if you’re going to rip it but stop and move the board sideways not cutting the painted surface.
@SBIGDTSM
@SBIGDTSM 2 жыл бұрын
I use a scroll blade in my jigsaw, it’s super quick and less mess.
@Oatma
@Oatma 2 жыл бұрын
@@SBIGDTSM my coworkers do this too! I don’t think I’m skilled enough lmaoo it never turns out for me
@Oatma
@Oatma 2 жыл бұрын
@Howie Feltersnatch definitely less noise and dust but i definitely couldnt cut the base for my houses as quick without my grinder be it poplar mdf pine whatever
@rosshunt6927
@rosshunt6927 Жыл бұрын
Caulk it and paint it. Famous quote from everyone’s favorite carpenter. Lol
@Matt_justlikethat
@Matt_justlikethat Жыл бұрын
I use a T-bevel, always comes out perfect. Thanks
@jaredcouch3182
@jaredcouch3182 2 жыл бұрын
This title should be called “How to turn a 30 second job into a 5 minute job”
@SMDe36M3
@SMDe36M3 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why you use a grinder with sand paper attachment and you can actually lay it out faster since you are cutting less 45* degree angles or have to adjust cuts or they’re too long.
@jaredcouch3182
@jaredcouch3182 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMDe36M3 okay. So I’m confused, how would a grinder be faster than a saw?
@jaredcouch3182
@jaredcouch3182 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMDe36M3 I do mitigation for a living and what you said doesn’t make sense to me.
@SMDe36M3
@SMDe36M3 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredcouch3182 if it’s MDF material which is soft or even Pine the grinder wheel shaves down very quickly. You just trace the design like how this guy did but with a grinder. It’s very fast.
@beralius8584
@beralius8584 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredcouch3182 With pratice, you can do a cope with a grinder within 20 seconds (depending on complexity of the trim). You're talking about a 30 second job being just cutting two 45s and putting them in a corner, I assume? If you don't mind gaps, that is alright, but tight fits are better than caulk over time. A corner 1 to 2 degrees out of square will leave an 1/8th inch gap on the front or the back. If you can cope quickly, you can speed up things on a job. Not having to use a protractor to figure out exact angles and then dial in the saw, test fit, and then potentially waste material if you get things wrong, as well as not using a huge glob of caulk that takes time to dry. Using stained trim, this method is even more important, since it is much harder to hide gaps.
@szcustomwoodworks6401
@szcustomwoodworks6401 3 жыл бұрын
This trick also works with inside corners for crown molding as well. I've also done it with a 80 grit flap disc on a grinder instead of using a coping saw, and had better results.
@saturnmedia1
@saturnmedia1 3 жыл бұрын
Crown molding, the 45° angle stuff. Now that was the biggest pain in the butt ever.
@ryandavies4435
@ryandavies4435 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia (Mate) we call it scribing your skirting boards. It’s a great way to install skirting boards. It gives you a few millimetres room to play with your measurements as it allows a couple of millimetres for cover if you work your way around a room. Also allows a couple of millimetres extra as It will only apply pressure to the other board and not push the miter past and into the plaster board. This allows installation process to be done much faster and neater then mitring as you will not have to recut and joints will be near on perfect. With more expensive brands of paint. You should quiet easily be able to fill any discrepancies in the mitres.
@aaronalquiza9680
@aaronalquiza9680 2 жыл бұрын
I was doing baseboards when i first got into woodworking.
@skylarneal5844
@skylarneal5844 3 жыл бұрын
Or just caulk the 45. It looks pretty much the same in the end
@blackpanther3912
@blackpanther3912 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he cuts off the lead edge of the second piece, as if it's going to be invisible at the top...
@darthjohnson6603
@darthjohnson6603 2 жыл бұрын
I like to do the same thing, but if you take a piece of the trim and very tightly wrap it with a piece of sandpaper and adhesive, you can very easily sand out any imperfections in your cut and eliminate the need for caulking
@altravels7426
@altravels7426 2 жыл бұрын
Litterally did a whole room and closet the other day, and while not perfect a 45 degree angle on both trim does the job. Caulking to make it look perfect, and of course a coat of paint. No wonder contractors give you unbelievable quotes for a few pieces of trim, mainly because they work like this
@kosaveli6668
@kosaveli6668 3 жыл бұрын
Buddy, I'm caulking up to 2 inches of gap😂😂
@YoursTruelyDanger
@YoursTruelyDanger 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah come to good ol Lake o the Ozarks
@SaucyOperator
@SaucyOperator 3 жыл бұрын
I have had to fill gaps that have more material as backer board than the actual trim!
@diesel4499
@diesel4499 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of the coping saw I use a sanding disc on my angle grinder...find it easer than trying to cope it.
@JEFFDI
@JEFFDI 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. A carpenter buddy of mine back in the day, out in the tracts, used a chainsaw blade attachment on a 4" grinder to make the cope. Fast and clean as all get out...
@georgevantuyl5837
@georgevantuyl5837 2 жыл бұрын
The secret to a perfect coping cut. Is to cut with a coping saw. 1/8 of an inch of the edge. Then with a rasp smooth the actual angle to a perfect fit. You will not need caulk to fill in the gap like he did. My grandfather taught me this. Thank you Pops.
@baddogentertainment6960
@baddogentertainment6960 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if you have the time and patience to do this for an entire house, go for it. But if your walls aren't at 90 degrees, you've got bigger problems. Not like people will say "oh the walls look warped but at least the skirting looks nice"
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