🔥 Stick Welding Square Tube

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We were asked to demonstrate how to stick weld thin gauge square tubing with the stick welding process. First, if at all possible, SMAW is not the ideal process for welding thin square tubing. MIG or TIG would (in most cases) be a much better option.
However, since the viewer only has access to a stick welder, we are going to show you how it's done.
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@tomt9543
@tomt9543 3 жыл бұрын
On the really thin stuff, I like to start my weld in the middle of the sides and run to one end. Then go to the far end and weld back to the middle. By starting in the middle, you’re welding the area that’s most likely to blow out first, before it can heat up. When you run from the far end back to the middle, the fragile area is already fused together which helps dissipate the heat. Just an old fart trick I’ve used for 40+ years.
@truckerray7533
@truckerray7533 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonnuh have to try this "old fart" trick. Thanks for the tip. Happy Welding
@zubrismusic
@zubrismusic 8 ай бұрын
💪💪
@ashbridgeprojects6916
@ashbridgeprojects6916 4 жыл бұрын
I love bob, exactly the kind of guy you want teaching you.
@micphoenix8200
@micphoenix8200 3 жыл бұрын
Fucken Oath. Cheers to Bob
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 3 жыл бұрын
i disagree. you should be banned from doing tutorials like these if you're left handed............... everything you do just looks wrong !!
@ThatOldStoner
@ThatOldStoner 7 жыл бұрын
I like that you blew a hole and kept the video going. It seems like a lot of other weld channels don't keep things real.
@bobmoffatt4133
@bobmoffatt4133 7 жыл бұрын
Ben Lee I blow up stuff! Like to keep it real man.
@douglasalan7786
@douglasalan7786 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Here in LatAm : Industrial tubo" is 14 ga or worse. I set my machines to blow and back them down until they blow less. Thats why I mentioned the Arc Pig. You can arc at 40 amps.....HF cheater is all it is but it works. Puddle ? What puddle ? There isn't enough metal to puddle. You're caulking with sheet metal and I prefer O/A but who has time for 50 feet of that....other than Kent,Lazze or someone else getting hundreds of murkin pesoz/hr
@lannyfullerj3852
@lannyfullerj3852 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Lee he is a welder instructer or teacher either. He blew a hole on purpose to show a point on what can happen or it was an accident he still sealed the hole, he did a good video
@africanhistory
@africanhistory 5 жыл бұрын
Well now I do not feel bad blowing holes LOL
@chrisjones6165
@chrisjones6165 5 жыл бұрын
Part of life welding. Specially thinner materials
@gordon4385
@gordon4385 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a stick video, for those of us who are still using Lincoln "tombstones". Every video Does help!
@subvertedworld
@subvertedworld 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the ac/dc version on purpose as my first welder. Excellent machine!
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 7 жыл бұрын
Damn good video. Extremely applicable to daily life, like you said. Its the weekend, you're on the farm or at home, need to do a repair and just have normal size rods. You run what you brung and adapt. Great video, Bob. Thanks!
@gordontaylor9601
@gordontaylor9601 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Cow!!! This helps me so much and is exactly what I needed. I am brand new and have been practicing on the same square tubing. I have been blowing through it and having a hard time starting the arc. It makes me feel better to see you having to "restart" several times to get the arc going and the fact that you blew through was comforting as well. Thank you so much for the tips on how to handle these issues as I plan to build a shop chair with square tubing for my first ever project.
@lwrdinu
@lwrdinu 7 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! My weld game has gotten way better since watching your videos Bob! Thank you! Keep up the good work!
@Edwardreynoldshd
@Edwardreynoldshd 5 жыл бұрын
Bob, ya blow me away. So much you demonstrate and ways to correct mistakes have seriously upped my game. Don’t panic. You and the Hitchhikers Guide. Great job, man.
@niznet111
@niznet111 6 жыл бұрын
Sir. I have learned so much watching all your welding videos. Thank you.
@michaelbright3966
@michaelbright3966 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! You've shown me just what I needed to overcome my habit of blowing holes into thin metal. I'm a newbie and don't weld too often; just once a while when I need to for my own home purposes. What I've learned from your video was the speed technique. This is very important. I also liked the way you photographed the welding process. Thnx again, and keep it up!
@stephentyas4698
@stephentyas4698 2 жыл бұрын
I think quite a few pros blow holes too.
@kauboy9816
@kauboy9816 6 жыл бұрын
This would have been super helpful two weeks ago when I had this exact same scenario. 1" square tube, 14ga, building a fence gate frame. Blowin' through like crazy. This vid makes it obvious that my speed was way too slow, and my arc too long. Got the job done with my flux-cored after giving up on the stick. Great video!
@customh
@customh 6 жыл бұрын
Found Bob a couple weeks ago and subscribed. Great videos, very educational. MORE OUTTAKES
@haroldwatkins7059
@haroldwatkins7059 6 жыл бұрын
As always your video is very educational and full of great information. I would like to applaud your camera person. Great shots every time of your work that helps us to see and understand.
@Gamerock82
@Gamerock82 6 жыл бұрын
Also the only channel I've found with the split screen showing the "shaded" closeup of the weld as it happens. Awesome.
@Whabligone
@Whabligone 4 жыл бұрын
new to welding and got a project to do next weekend on square tubing, found this video and it is just what I needed. accidentally in our small town you only get to buy 6013, nothing else, so my joy was great on stumbling across this video. Thanks alot.
@davidcox4980
@davidcox4980 2 жыл бұрын
You help make feel so much better about being a novice my friend. I'm 44, and just starting to learn. Thanks again!!
@greasydot
@greasydot 6 жыл бұрын
They call it stick welding for a reason, it sticks!!! I am a professional at filling holes. Still working on not making them!!
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 4 жыл бұрын
I thought htey called it that because of the tendency to "stick" the rod to the piece (so annoying!).
@shawnmclendon4801
@shawnmclendon4801 4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn’t love a nice hole on anything? Builds character to the peace
@kaptein1247
@kaptein1247 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget what I did when makin a stainless grill with tig. Accidently pushed the button and melted off 3cm of one of the rods. I just finished and didnt want to and couldnt replace it since there was no stock. It took me like an hour to stack up welds and half an hour more to grind it into a decent shape. Ended up looking pretty decent
@MI_I-yy1yq
@MI_I-yy1yq 4 жыл бұрын
You learn till you die
@Joe-yr1em
@Joe-yr1em 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you show your mistakes and use them as lessons 💯
@zanpekosak2383
@zanpekosak2383 7 жыл бұрын
Yeeey! Finally the square tubing welds. Been begging for these for a long time.
@alexanders.montes7131
@alexanders.montes7131 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, Bob! Keep up the good work!
@longevitywelding
@longevitywelding 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob, nice vid. Real clear instructional video with in-depth knowledge.
@ivorygilyard2243
@ivorygilyard2243 6 жыл бұрын
When you talk you remind me of my dad and my grandpa :) I subscribed. I very much enjoy your videos. You explain things very nicely, the videos are good and thanks. - Ivory
@Gamerock82
@Gamerock82 6 жыл бұрын
New subscriber / new welder here... thank you so much for these vids. Your style both of welding and explaining what is going on and how you go about it is of huge help.
@LawtonDigital
@LawtonDigital 4 жыл бұрын
I got to stick weld for the first time last week. I grabbed some 3/32 plate from the bin because I wasn't listening... This video helped me understand the results I got, thanks!
@bruce-bruce7975
@bruce-bruce7975 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy learning from you and weldtube. Thanks for the videos.
@jockellis
@jockellis 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The intro to welding class I took fall semester dealt with 1/8” 7018 and mostly 3/8” plate, elements union welders would encounter. But for stick welding I am more interested in joining square tubing to replace the fence around the family cemetery. When I get to TIG, it will be with an eye toward replacing rusty areas on project cars, Rusty and Rustier.
@alexadams4132
@alexadams4132 3 жыл бұрын
This is something I would attempt. Thanks for the video Bob. Always learn from you.
@handmade3681
@handmade3681 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found that holding the electrode like a pen down about 5 inches from the end is a good way to tack things up
@cokeeffe321
@cokeeffe321 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done with the thinner walled tube. Great technique. Learned a lot in this one video. Heading home at lunchtime to finish a project!!!
@MrPatrickmartin1985
@MrPatrickmartin1985 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man you couldn't of threw this up at a better time. You just helped my weekend tenfold! Great videos, as always. Bob is the main teacher I've learned welding from. Such a great teacher, thank you for taking the time to do these.
@Zorn101
@Zorn101 7 жыл бұрын
Grinder and Paint make me the welder I ain't !
@billythebake
@billythebake 6 жыл бұрын
Zorn101 AvE & I have been known to say that...
@institorisinstitoris959
@institorisinstitoris959 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha so true :-)
@dick4042
@dick4042 6 жыл бұрын
Like it never even happened lol
@flexxxycj
@flexxxycj 5 жыл бұрын
@@billythebake AvE! Love that guy also! Constantly makes me laugh!
@handmade3681
@handmade3681 4 жыл бұрын
If you grind to make a weld look good, you are a Grindr
@wayessi
@wayessi 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man,always pleasure to watch your videos.
@Puntism
@Puntism 7 жыл бұрын
This video is a huge help. I recently went through hell trying to stick weld thin tube - the only rods we really get here are 6013, so I did what I could with 2.5mm rods, blew holes all over the place. But after watching this it looks like the reason I struggled so much was running too slow and too cold (55 Amps, to compensate for the heat). That meant I really struggled maintaining an arc, since it was also an out of position weld. Next time I'll try to crank up the Amps and travel faster.
@dannyherrera1598
@dannyherrera1598 4 жыл бұрын
If you run 6013 use it with 70 amps and on straight polarity. 6010 and 6011 are deep penetrating rods. I wouldnt use these for any tubing. Id go 7014 unless its something critical id do 7018 with lower amperage.
@JoyStickFanatic
@JoyStickFanatic 3 жыл бұрын
I was having this problem too, i upped my amps and was able to maintain an arc and not punch giant holes.
@Ritalie
@Ritalie 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you always confirm that the welder is actually running a negative polarity on the ground clamp. You have to use a volt meter and check the leads on the welder. You cannot just blindly trust the welder markings because the leads could be backwards inside the welder. Some Chinese welders have reversed polarity and the positive lead is actually negative on a volt meter. This is a major problem on some really popular Amazon arc welders. A positive ground clamp will make your weld at least 3 times more penetration and impossible to run a bead. Try reversing polarity if you don't have a volt meter handy.
@juan-pierreconradie1463
@juan-pierreconradie1463 Жыл бұрын
Where you from? Because here the only variation of rods i get for mild is 6013 and 7018
@shyamdevadas6099
@shyamdevadas6099 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I'm just at the beginning of the beginning of learning to weld. Stuff like this really helps. Thanks!
@LJbradbury
@LJbradbury 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I found similar outcomes using 6013 on 2mm 50 x 50 box section. I had to just weld quickly with a tight arc, it worked but a lot less control of the heat than TIG. I'm just a home user building garden furniture and I use 2mm all the time. Love the videos (from the UK)
@XsafetypunkX
@XsafetypunkX 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Thanks. I love the working with whatcha had and then keeping keeping on after you had a blow through.
@cehuddl
@cehuddl 4 жыл бұрын
You do a nice job keeping it real and teaching
@metubewot
@metubewot 5 жыл бұрын
I weld a fair bit of small box section. Thanks for your advice Bob. It helps that you do it for real man.
@ianphendry
@ianphendry 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. I was always running too slow on square tube with a stick welder. Since moved on to mig for square tube but this is a great video to know what i was doing wrong :) Thanks!
@wimm1392
@wimm1392 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir, this was a great informative video, you have cleared up lots of my problems, now I know I have to invest in a MIG welder. Thanks
@kiksforge
@kiksforge 6 жыл бұрын
A drag/stall technique works very well for 6013 on the face of the square tubing, great vid by the by
@junterkang2797
@junterkang2797 3 жыл бұрын
dang! the lighting and just bob is a welder atmosphere. Good job to the video dudes.
@mikef-gi2dg
@mikef-gi2dg 4 жыл бұрын
When you got serious skills, you can improvise and adapt like a BOSS!
@rodwright225
@rodwright225 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou Bob , I always learn and enjoy your videos 😎 👍👍 welding happy face here!!!
@ricardomontes373
@ricardomontes373 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bob for featuring 6013 on thin wall tubing as it is a common problem for us here in Australia as the most commonly available rod at hardware stores and welding supply stores is 6013 and about the only difference in the rods you can get is with how easily the slag is to remove. Cheaper rods = tougher slag, Dearer rods = easier slag.
@enlightenednews5265
@enlightenednews5265 5 жыл бұрын
I love an easy Slag.
@jimjones7821
@jimjones7821 2 жыл бұрын
@@enlightenednews5265 With a few mates ;-)
@envy.us.13
@envy.us.13 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you answered all my questions in the video
@ImranKhan-qv2sb
@ImranKhan-qv2sb 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really useful.
@ThePeriquito51
@ThePeriquito51 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB...GREAT EFFORT...YOUR WORK IS MASSIVE
@uprising300ric
@uprising300ric 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob…very useful information!
@jpowell33609
@jpowell33609 3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. Thank you
@garrettherman497
@garrettherman497 5 жыл бұрын
You sure know how to stick weld...awesome!
@ivor1957
@ivor1957 Жыл бұрын
He knows how but I think he needs a lot more experience
@Smallathe
@Smallathe 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Thank you for the tips and demonstration.
@88slickback
@88slickback Жыл бұрын
Second time watching this video, and, still, I learned something critical today 👌🏽
@HoustonR6ryda
@HoustonR6ryda 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your instruction a lot -thank you
@kevinbrowne1278
@kevinbrowne1278 4 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy! Nice gonna keep practicing
@ketotrucker6262
@ketotrucker6262 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for your time and effort, great advice
@argophloia703
@argophloia703 6 жыл бұрын
Thin wall gal tube and farmers sticks has been my thing for 25yrs of on/off farm welding and so I looked this up to see what the norms have been...well I'm glad you included a mistake or two, that's realistic
@das250250
@das250250 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you popped a hole in the tube. It doesn't make me feel so bad when I blow holes in them as a novice . Clearly , tube stick weld takes quite some skill so if I can get it done it's not a bad learning environment .thanks for sharing
@brianbowman5402
@brianbowman5402 6 жыл бұрын
I was just doing something like this. I found switching my buzz box to AC was actually better to keep from burning though. I was glade to here you comment on that.
@brentonkelly3780
@brentonkelly3780 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Really helpful!
@bottomgear4028
@bottomgear4028 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in Ecuador making a gate out of thin gauge square tube. This was really helpful.
@anthonymarino4260
@anthonymarino4260 2 жыл бұрын
always learning thanks
@brendancooney9401
@brendancooney9401 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for that. good to see im not the only one blowing holes in box tubing.
@ArizonaCowboys
@ArizonaCowboys 6 жыл бұрын
On my farm the material i have been working on is 11 gauge 2" galvanized sq tubing. 6010 @77amps on a Miller trailblazer all day long. Not easy at first but doable
@shouwinlawrence5424
@shouwinlawrence5424 3 жыл бұрын
I am willing to learn to do that can u help I don't know how to
@elderperez2047
@elderperez2047 6 жыл бұрын
Most of "welders" here in my country use a buzzbox wiith fixed @75A AC and 3/32 on everything. Even though they're not professional welders, they make windows, grids for balcony, doors, stairs, etc... and even autobody repairs! Most of welds aren't pretty and most of welds are just tacks but none the less, the work is done. Of course structural and critical welds are for professional welders which I still have not meet one. Some of my friends that weld for a living or have weld on minor things or hobby did not even knew what MIG/MAG or TIG where until I showed them my little hobby setup.
@BigJfan
@BigJfan 6 жыл бұрын
I welded exhaust pipe with eighth inch 7018 once. Travel speed is definitely the deciding factor.
@denniscarter483
@denniscarter483 2 жыл бұрын
We need a lot more of Bob!!!
@arturonunezdorantes7120
@arturonunezdorantes7120 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing these tricks. I use stick welding very frequently and I also have found problems such a hole in the middle of the bead. Greeting from México. Arturo Núñez
@Pablogogo
@Pablogogo 7 жыл бұрын
great video, I only have a stick at home and this is pretty representative of how my welding of box section goes. I had never tried the flattening of the outer corner, looks like I have a new trick. very informative
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it helps to start in the middle of the butt weld sides and weld to one end. Then go to the far end of the joint and weld back to the middle. The heat seems to dissipate a little better in the middle that way. Welding tubing thinner than 11ga. (1/8”) is a pain in ass with any process!
@992F
@992F 6 жыл бұрын
Seeing you blow a hole, made me feel a bit better. I am too critical and figured I was the only one making mistakes and repairing them the same way as you did. Thank you
@kylepenman9802
@kylepenman9802 3 ай бұрын
Once again, another excellent video! I've only just finished welding up some 14g square tube (2mm here in Australia) with 6013. Except I had 2mm 6013s in my welding box (I think that's 1/16). I'm much the same in the way of never reaching for 6013s as a first option. In fact I've grown to hate them over the years, but I knew 2mm electrodes would be the only sensible option. Ran them at 70amps and as much as I don't like 6013s, they actually did really well! As for 3/32, which I think is the 2.6mm equivalent here in Australia. I've done it. But it was really difficult! 😂 Don't ever stop creating great content! I'm always on the lookout for more wealth of knowledge from you! Much respect from down under! 🙏
@juan-pierreconradie1463
@juan-pierreconradie1463 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch this video helps plenty
@eazyrider6122
@eazyrider6122 4 жыл бұрын
Another great tutorial thanks
@blackpaper13
@blackpaper13 4 жыл бұрын
Tq ..it clears everthing.
@lennycruz4558
@lennycruz4558 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks this is very helpful
@hurterbe
@hurterbe 6 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks not many videos on stick welding thin wall tubing, which is what most DIYers normally weld on for projects at home over the weekend. 👍 Can you show us some more fit ups? How about T-joints where the one side of the joint is the rounded/bevelled edge of the tube. Also welding thin wall tube to heavy gauge materials. And how to weld the inside of a 45 degree corner on thin gauge angle iron. As many guys commented, here in South Africa it is very difficult to find anything other then 6013 rods so that is what we normally work with.
@garyaanderson214
@garyaanderson214 4 жыл бұрын
Great job.I have welded lots of this with stick.I have 7018 and 6010.Lots of square and rectangle frames.I welded all but the outaide corner with 7018 and then downhill 1/16 6010 on the outside corner 3/32 7018 rod .The 6010 welds this corner pretty nice
@ramadah7591
@ramadah7591 4 жыл бұрын
Nice lesson
@successfulliving3692
@successfulliving3692 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Great tutorial
@darkhorse9831
@darkhorse9831 7 жыл бұрын
Here, we usually use 6013 rods even for thin wall tubing. It's only a matter of practice to get use to it.
@megantarahs
@megantarahs 6 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for this mind opening video, ive been questioning myself how i should go normal speed and produce pretty coin stacks without blowing a hole, most welding basics tutorials always say too slow or too fast as not good weld.
@capman911
@capman911 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but my welding instructor taught us with nothing but 1/8th E6011. He said if you could weld different thickness of metal with that rod you could do it with any kind of rod. I have also added 7014 and the 7018 rods for better slag removal.
@MoKeepFit
@MoKeepFit 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect real tutorial nice 1 👍🙋‍♂️🤘
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 4 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!! THANK YOU, FOR THIS GREAT DEMO!!! I WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO WELD SOME THINWALL 1-1/4" SQ STEEL TUBING, TO ANGLE IRON PIECES, AT EACH END, FOR ATTACHMENT CLEATS, ON CROSS BARS, ON A SMALL BENCH. GREAT REVIEW!!!, .....SO, MAYBE i CAN AVOID ANY BIG HOLES!!! LOL!!!! THANKS, AGAIN!!!
@robotech1990
@robotech1990 7 жыл бұрын
I feel goood!!!!I always thought it was me or my machine.Now i can sleep with a great smile on my face. Thank's for this great vid.
@douglasalan7786
@douglasalan7786 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed an excellent and real vid
@lightrail2823
@lightrail2823 3 жыл бұрын
Wire size please ?
@robotech1990
@robotech1990 3 жыл бұрын
@@lightrail2823 3/32 stick welding with AWS 6018.
@TorBoy9
@TorBoy9 Жыл бұрын
This was very useful for a beginner like myself. And I use 6013 3/32", so bonus!
@SethStrickland-hf5mp
@SethStrickland-hf5mp 6 жыл бұрын
This videos a big help!
@tonynyberg301
@tonynyberg301 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@downhilldaddy9346
@downhilldaddy9346 3 жыл бұрын
I welded on some of this stuff today. Built a staircase for a mobile home. It’s high speed chicken feed! As soon as arc is struck gotta get to moving.
@DaddyBear3000
@DaddyBear3000 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a decent entry level AC stick. I made some custom shelf brackets with angle iron and definitely had the amps too high, but would be good to see some of your work with 6013 AC on thin stock.
@mtrltoolman
@mtrltoolman 7 жыл бұрын
great video thank you.
@worldkarting89
@worldkarting89 5 жыл бұрын
1/16 6013 seems to be working for me at 35-40 amps. It can still burn through though.
@osamahabbob6549
@osamahabbob6549 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for the usefull information.. I wonder why not use the 6018 stick and what are the drawbacks of these?
@Polo1683Official
@Polo1683Official 6 жыл бұрын
That's what helps me actually learn when welding, even pros make mistakes.
@grahamcheetham2146
@grahamcheetham2146 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for your time to help us mere mortals
@462ta
@462ta 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see real world stuff that the average guy does.
@bobhumphries3998
@bobhumphries3998 6 жыл бұрын
I have made several projects out of 14 gauge. I don't weld the outside corner, I feel that if you weld top bottom and inside corner it will be strong enough unless you are building a bridge. All my projects are solid and are carrying a fair amount of weight. Paint it and the outside corner is sharp and looks great. I'm not a pro at all and I welcome any critisism. Thanks for making these videos Bob, you are the best
@ambukfx7348
@ambukfx7348 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the few tips, im a new learner welder
@josuealfaro1298
@josuealfaro1298 7 жыл бұрын
Love your channel
@DJ-pn9te
@DJ-pn9te 2 жыл бұрын
I started welding with 1/2" x 1/2" 1/16" thick square tubing end against solid steel alloy bearing. After watching this and never welding before, I feel pretty good about my skills. I used 3/16" 6013.....with $100 portable stick welder.
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