(Still) Waiting for Navi
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Күн бұрынNavi's here... but in a way, we're still Waiting for Navi.
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0:00 - Navi's story so far
Here are the things that people are still waiting on Navi to achieve:
2:11 - Flagship performance
4:12 - Value for money
4:34 - Why haven't graphics card prices dropped?
7:24 - Navi in its current state and what will happen next
Impact Prelude Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@nhancao4790 4 жыл бұрын
AMD is working on Valve time.
@wooshbait36 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@miksuko 4 жыл бұрын
@@wooshbait36 why
@wooshbait36 4 жыл бұрын
@@miksuko This weed is good 😂
@KacperNoe 4 жыл бұрын
What about Intel's 10nm?
@lemmyboy4107 4 жыл бұрын
HAHA at least they dont use the same business model. Realising 2 insane games/cards of a serie then wait for 1-20 years release a game/card noone wants release a third card that is so overpriced that noone normal can use it.
@angrygoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Consumers have been saying for years, sometimes quite literally, "I want AMD to release a competitive card because the 1080Ti is too expensive for me to buy right now. It needs to be cheaper! WE NEAD COMPITISHUN!!" Back in 2013/2014, AMD already did almost exactly what consumers are pining for now with the R9 290 and 290X. It was cheaper, as fast, with more memory and an architecture better suited for future APIs. And yet, everyone still bought GTX 770-780Ti's. They even bought Titans for $1000. And they wonder why AMD almost went belly up before Lisa Su took over. Navi 5700 is very good. I'm very happy with where RTG have positioned it. It could be marginally cheaper, but they wouldn't sell enough to make it worth it. The 5500 series is a shamble, but it was designed as an Apple exclusive. The 5600 series looks to be stellar for the money. I don't doubt that RDNA2 and the next Navi cards will be very good and be the best high-end card AMD have had since the 200 series. When it is released, I think the 5600 series will become the 6500 series, and the 5700 series will become the 6600 series. That means, by the end of this year you should be able to buy a refreshed 5700 XT for $250 and get very good 1440p performance. To me, that's very exciting.
@chairwood 4 жыл бұрын
How was r9 290 better for future APIs
@teampepeja5821 4 жыл бұрын
AMD sold plenty of 290s / 290Xs, particularly during the first mining craze . It was also the last time AMD was competitive with Nvidia, with Maxwell and Pascal trouncing AMD with very high margins. Instead of blaming end customers, maybe take at look at Nvidia's marketing compared to AMD and their prevelance in OEM systems and maybe Nvidia's marketshare won't come as such a big surprise. AMD certainly wasn't on it's last legs because of dumb customers, it was the consequence of leadership and decisions made years ago and Su certainly isn't some magic saviour of AMD. Had Ryzen been a failure, AMD would be basically dead, no matter who was in charge. Today, RDNA is still way behind Nvidia, with no change to that in sight.
@angrygoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
@@chairwood Mantle, Vulkan, DX12, the GCN architecture was better suited for it than Nvidia's Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal architectures were, at least in terms of relative rasterisation comparisons between DX11 and DX12. The 290X can still hold its own in many modern titles while the 780Ti has fallen behind, even in games that don't require more than 3GB of VRAM. The 200 series didn't fully support all DX12 features, and neither did Fiji, but it did have some form of ACE's and could therefore be utilised by low overhead APIs.
@angrygoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
@@teampepeja5821 AMD sold 200 series cards, definitely. I wasn't saying they didn't. I was saying that far more people bought Geforce 700 series cards despite AMD being highly competitive. Consumer ignorance is inherently linked to advertising and product placement. Nvidia's prevalence in both mobile and OEM systems adds to consumer ignorance. People associate graphics with Nvidia and central processing with Intel. And they do that because of a marketing techniques, saturation of the marketplace, etc. It's all part of it. And I never said Lisa Su is beyond criticism or a magic saviour. Zen succeeded in part due to Intel's 10nm process failing. That was supposed to come out three years ago, right when Zen did. If Intel had invested in other areas, Zen would have come out to a much more competitive marketplace. People say that Intel consciously chose to limit progress, but it was mostly down to mismanagement of their manufacturing. And in fairness to Lisa Su, she has won multiple awards for her work. There is no doubt she's been integral to AMD's recent successes. There's no point denying that. And that's all I was saying.
@thrace_bot1012 4 жыл бұрын
5600 XT might infact be the best pick for 1080p gaming out there , but AMDs current lineup misses out owing to a couple major let-downs : lack of Ray Tracing support & unstable drivers. Plus nVidia's deals with major game development studios offers them a better GeForce specific optimization edge over RX line-up ; only a *very* few titles like the Division 2 offer AMD cards a performance edge over nVidia.
@lame_lema 4 жыл бұрын
kliksphilip: Waiting for Navi me: Waiting for the second The Talos Principle video
@vsear5911 4 жыл бұрын
me, an intellectual: waiting for destruction darius 2
@JEASOUA 4 жыл бұрын
im glad it wasnt published, wasnt it supposed to be about all the stuff philip found out? I bought the game thanks to the first video and 7-8 hours in now
@thegamingcop2447 4 жыл бұрын
@@JEASOUA lol I finished it only the dlcs are remaining to complete all the puzzles are done including stars and SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 different endings
@lame_lema 4 жыл бұрын
@@cynical4503 It doesn't for me, can you post the link or ?v= to it here?
@cynical4503 4 жыл бұрын
@@lame_lema oh wait no I'm sorry, I must have misremembered things. It either doesn't appear anymore or it was never there in the first place
@reinout1489 4 жыл бұрын
I watch every single video from any of your channels because even video's like this where idk where it's about or if I even would like it, you somehow make every video very interesting and fun to watch. I'm glad I've been watching your video's for this time, and that I found you in the first place. Thanks.
@spanospy 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who does not play CS:GO at all, his videos on that game are the best.
@reinout1489 4 жыл бұрын
@@spanospy Same, but I also LOVE his Skyrim video's.
@myvideos5665 4 жыл бұрын
@@spanospy He makes a lot of stuf more interesting. I bought The Talos Experience after his video only to find out I could only run it at 15 fps or something. Uninstalled and refunded sadly :(.
@clordias101 4 жыл бұрын
I've upgraded my PC at the start of the year to an AMD system, with the 5700 GPU, x470 motherboard and the Ryzen 7 3700x CPU and I couldn't be happier. Buying an equivalent NVIDIA and Intel products would have cost me around $2k AUD, whereas I got the AMD equipment for around $1.3 AUD (+ shipping) RTX is not something I care about and I can run the RE2 Remake maxed at 1440p with no issues, so the card should be fantastic for years to come. The price increase for NVIDIA and Intel is insane in comparison to AMD, it's a no brainer if you're a general consumer in the Aus market. Also cheers for the guide you made back in September, I used it as a template for my upgrades.
@Flashv28 4 жыл бұрын
just my 2 cents: First of all: I have a 6700K and a 1070, bought both used, 1440p gang For NVIDIA: I don't get it, RTX is in no game that I would play for 100h+, it draws performance down, high framerate is king 1660 Ti cards have 6 GB of GDDR6 memory, 288 GB/s, ~1800 MHz boost, ~290 € new 5700 has 8 GB GDDR6 memory @ 448 GB/s, ~1750 MHz boost, ~ 310€ new I don't know shit about current GPUs, so for me its a draw, don't @ me AMD: Ryzen 5 2600 is like 110€ new, AM4 boards should be future proof, no need for anyone in the
@fVNzO 4 жыл бұрын
Why not go 3600/5700xt? Both cpus are bottom of the barrel bins so you might aswell get a 3600 and then upgrade to 4th gen if you need the horsepower. You may have a specific workload off course, which is fine as well:).
@labombaromba 4 жыл бұрын
I just wish AMD had something like the Nvidia Profile Inspector to let me mess around with the graphics of certain games, like forcing ambient occlusion in games that don't support it (Where Reshade may also be incompatible or have no depth access) for example. Ever since I got an Nvidia card, it's been hard to go back to AMD for this sole reason because I do make use of it in a lot of my games.
@clordias101 4 жыл бұрын
I was limited by budget, and I've never really been bottlenecked by a weaker CPU, I'm still using a 13/14 year old harddrive lol I could've picked an alternative motherboard but mine was was sale (Boxing day) and I was guaranteed it would work out of the box so I chose that one instead
@michener1622 4 жыл бұрын
In my math nvidia new mobo i7-9700k almost equivalent (2070) or could be better but 2070 super would cost you 1600 aud + 100 aud so either your Australian prices are over priced or you’re amd biased (no offense) Edit: mobo is z390 msi mpg edge pro
@dkursada 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, KZfaq's newly announced video segments feature is already doing wonders here. I can see the parts of video divided on the seek bar and I can see for how long that certain part of the video run.
@ChavvyChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Feliz Navi dad
@cynical4503 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit how did I not think of this
@daniel8763 4 жыл бұрын
Genius
@thetrashman5252 4 жыл бұрын
7:31 Navi is considerably more efficient than most reviewers gave it credit for so long that the user is willing to take the time to undervolt the card. Currently running my own 5700xt nitro+ at 1961mhz target clock (~1900mhz game clock) at 1.068v (I got some of the leakier Navi 10 silicon, but this is still pretty good) along with GDDR6 at 1900mhz. At that core frequency the GPU core draws ~170w.
@gustavrsh 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the stock tune is way too aggressive on voltage. I have a reference card, running at 2060 target @ 1160 mV. I'm thinking of undervolting it more because the blower sucks (literally and figuratively)
@joeykeilholz925 4 жыл бұрын
That's p good
@Leap623 4 жыл бұрын
That's not bad, but that's also about what a GTX 1080 pulls for pretty similar performance, on a card that's almost four years old and on a larger transistor size. Like cool, that's an improvement, but they've still got work to do.
@thetrashman5252 4 жыл бұрын
@@Leap623 Performance between the two gpus isn't even close to similar. My 5700XT pulls a 27700 point firestrike graphics score. A 1080 pulls about 22000 points. Performance per watt gains are pretty much exactly what is expected for this kind of node change.
@EcchiRevenge 4 жыл бұрын
@@Leap623 5700XT trades favorably against 1080ti if you remove the obviously nvidia-biased games(game"works", unoptimized UE4...etc. titles). The only way you can pretend to have a valid statement is if you only look at nvidia-biased games.
@liamwest472 4 жыл бұрын
I had a mental breakdown choosing which new video to watch first
@2hillsinbetween 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bellcaster ok daniel
@khorkhi7107 4 жыл бұрын
Muh mental breakdown
@champ8605 4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Bellcaster you sound like a fun guy to be around.
@Loosmoose942 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Totally agree with the price argument.
@snowfox-xc1qq 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new year man, it’s not New Year’s Day but it is a new year and you still doing this, proud of you.
@AtomicSpeedFT 4 жыл бұрын
Always like your videos on these. Learn alot everytime
@SniperSpy10 4 жыл бұрын
so glad I watched this video instead of the one 3kliksphilip uploaded at the same time, your content is much better
@nameduser9143 4 жыл бұрын
can't wait till 10kliksphilip release alien footage.
@VinceTaglia 4 жыл бұрын
I just want 33kliksphilip's DMT trip report
@socialist_elmo 4 жыл бұрын
this is cursed
@zaikolebolsh5724 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping 53kliksphillip KKK infiltration went well and that they didnt discover him eating MCdonals, KKK hates MCdonals
@solidPEARyaBOI 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video kliksphilip!
@TheXev 4 жыл бұрын
8:35 THANK YOU. This is a point I keep trying to drive across when explaining RX 5500's pricing.
@RFLCPTR 4 жыл бұрын
Its still stupid that the 5500 XT in most places costs 20-40€ more than a GTX 1650 Super.
@rnt__ 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my 580 used like 8 months ago, and I'm still very happy with it.
@sunshower6560 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, I’m waiting on Na’Vi to replace GuardiaN with sh1ro or xsepower.
@edwinleechuanhao 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh navis also got another problem atm, which was covered by thorin in his recent Navi vid. They're not tactically flexible right now, it either goes well or if their opponents have a read on their strats Navi loses their game 16-3. So they definitely need boombl4 to step up tactically as well if they want a chance to lift trophies this year. Guardian defs a big problem tho
@nicolasvargas6782 4 жыл бұрын
bringing a rifler imand giving the awp back to s1mple is better than getting another awper
@zrader1 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasvargas6782 yeah that worked
@Gadtkaz 4 жыл бұрын
They gotta fix their drivers before any talk of a price drop. Black screens, instability, weird performance. Navi gots it all and we've been guinea pigs since its summer release.
@KayX291 4 жыл бұрын
The more people report the issues, the more attention it gets. The problem is most people buy NVIDIA GPUs, whereas as of 2017 right now most likely folks from Linux side buy AMD and use em with the open source driver library, Mesa, which have their own separate issues to deal with that gets constantly reported and fixed, even AMD themselves considers it as being officially supported despite being developed by the community, heck they even recommend using that one instead of their own.
@krunolokmer2398 4 жыл бұрын
2 vidios in a row, nice one Philip.
@edwinleechuanhao 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the vid Philip! Definitely would love to see the 2080 dethroned by what AMD has in store for the future!
@diegodelatorre9076 4 жыл бұрын
When i saw "still waiting for navi" and the white triangles at the start of the video i thought this was a ocarina of time lofi mix
@jessevos3986 4 жыл бұрын
LET'S ALL LOVE LAIN
@iliasvelaoras3038 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you could buy me a new navi...
@modeak47 4 жыл бұрын
Haro,Navi
@r3ap3rrr 4 жыл бұрын
PRESENT DAY PRESENT TIME
@amitnandi1924 4 жыл бұрын
Even being a gaming focused channel, the technology based videos you make often shames the dedicated tech youtubers. I honestly feel like I have learned so much more from your videos than watching other tech channels where all they show is which card can pump out how many FPS. The 2 videos regarding GeForceRTX and Quake 2 Ray Tracing that you made changed my thoughts about nvidia's 2000 series graphics cards completely. Most people would probably still hates RTX and it’s bulls**t launch price and the fact that even the 2080ti struggles to reach even 60fps in 4K with Ray Tracing. They don’t really understand how much more computational power a fully ray traced render actually takes. Looking at big budget animations who renders their movies probably in a million dollar render farm takes hours to render even a single frame. So it should be obvious that there is no way that a consumer grade graphics card will be pumping out hundreds of frames every second even with limited rays being cast. And your video highlights on this so beautifully that I am yet to find a proper tech channel who has done that instead of posting thousands of videos that RTX sucks. It’s an honour that we get to watch videos made by people like you and hope you always keep posting these entertaining and yet educational videos. 😊
@joperamod5760 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the mainstream channels?
@tet5510 4 жыл бұрын
It's become a habit to open up a video from the klik empire, press autoplay on and listen to Philip's voice until I fall asleep. Thank you for all those well slept night's, Philip!
@m_sedziwoj 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, only one more thing you could mention is improvement in Vega on Ryzen 4000 laptop series, which is not use in current Navi (at last it was suggested by Lisa Su).
@hedgehog3180 4 жыл бұрын
I brought the 5700 XT and I'm honestly really happy with it, it was an upgrade to my 1070 ti which actually cost more than the 5700 XT where I live and still does. Not sure how but where I live the 5700 XT was a really good deal compared to all other cards basically costing one tier below it's nVidia rivals. It was a great deal for me and basically a way for me to get a performance level that otherwise would have been out of my reach.
@BombaJead 4 жыл бұрын
Same in my country but only cause gpu prices are way higher here, like sure the 5700xt is cheaper than the 2060 here but still with the money 5700xt costs here ($500-$600) you can get a 2070super in USA, and for the money of the 2070super ($700-$800) you could buy a 2080super.
@TheAudioCGMan 4 жыл бұрын
I might do this to finally play rdr2
@summushieremiasclarkson4700 4 жыл бұрын
You went from a 1070Ti to a 5700XT? I mean, it's your money, but that's a bit redundant.
@joeykeilholz925 4 жыл бұрын
@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 yeah this one hurts my head. It's like 20 percent faster...
@chrisohear3887 4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is recommending me Interstellar
@gabrielwildman 4 жыл бұрын
Still gaming on my i5-4690k and gtx 970, and i will continue to do so until things get cheaper. Pretty much exactly as you said.
@RepsUp100 4 жыл бұрын
I wish AMD was more like Nvidia, they release the high end version before everything else.
@RepsUp100 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoggyMicrowaveNugget Halo effect
@therealspleen52 4 жыл бұрын
Nice I hope Navi can win the next major!
@Mrcoolexander 4 жыл бұрын
Klicksphilip: *Waiting for Navi* Me: What's Navi?
@temegron6695 4 жыл бұрын
@John Doe Do I hear a Intel's fanboy crying over there?
@s1ndrome117 4 жыл бұрын
@John Doe oh no! its an endangered Intel fanboy...
@sabyasachidas4680 4 жыл бұрын
@John Doe Time will tell who is the pleb here :)
@RayTC 4 жыл бұрын
^^ look at these fanboys and laugh at them like the losers they are
@AsinoEsel 4 жыл бұрын
Blue people from Avatar.
@antoniolorenzopaar8419 4 жыл бұрын
i love you´r videos bro
@FortuneZer0 4 жыл бұрын
2 was released earlier but i got notified about 3 first.
@Turbine2k5 4 жыл бұрын
You know what I'm still waiting for? That follow-up Talos video.
@TheSuperCookie100 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you have a good day Philip
@akarshadithya5479 4 жыл бұрын
If you look at raw Tflops performance of 5700xt , it's actually faster than 2070super, but I don't know why it's not translating into games
@kajmak64bit76 4 жыл бұрын
Drivers..
@coolronz 4 жыл бұрын
i dont really go by tflops, isnt a V64 12.7tflops? my old 1080 was faster in gaming than the average V64, then my 5700xt was hardly any faster than my 1080 in tflops yet considerably faster in gaming... lol
@akarshadithya5479 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolronz you opened my eyes brother
@GoofballPaul 4 жыл бұрын
8:50 that laugh lol.
@mix3k818 4 жыл бұрын
And now we're all waiting for RDNA 2
@zaltan0 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on talos principle video
@MrMiddleWick 4 жыл бұрын
Added this to the Watch later playlist, it's not like the video is going to be outdated anytime soon
@darkerm76 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Listen~
@Hman-wm5qm 4 жыл бұрын
Hey 2kliks, you should do a video on "AI Dungeon" (or AI Dungeon 2). It reminded me of Game Making Journey 12, and I think you'd have fun analysing it.
@ChildoftheKoRnf9 4 жыл бұрын
I think navi was originally going to be based on GCN. At the beginning phase of getting the original Navi design on GCN they said "Eff this" then got started a newer methodology more geared for graphics, taking the best of GCN with it. EUV will drastically increase production speed (shaves off a month of wafer production) so one thing folks haven't talked much about is more supply to the shelves will = lower prices. Will still be more than what we were hoping for, but less than what 5700 XT showed off.
@karma5267 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey, listen!"
@jameseswilliams3728 4 жыл бұрын
Me: a random person getting this in my recommended expecting it to be about OOT but staying for the ride
@lucian_m 4 жыл бұрын
This type of pricing phenomenon is described in Misbehaving: The making of behavioral Economics. Very interesting topic for sure.
@thanasisthanos2152 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah behavioral economics is the most interesting field of the economics and its for sure the one of the few fields that will explode the next years.
@gabriels.5556 3 жыл бұрын
pls make more hardware oriented videos
@stonium69 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 5700 two weeks ago for 310 dollars and I'm a big fan of it. A big upgrade from a 660 and laptop graphics and the obvious choice for my budget and the performance I wanted.
@calthepal312 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for her since she left at the end of ocarina of time. I haven’t seen her since.
@sganicocchi5337 4 жыл бұрын
i love the time these things get to me
@lolpl0000 4 жыл бұрын
Well I love you
@archieallaway6718 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Listen!!
@daniel8763 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2070 just before the launch of the RX 5700XT, and before the price cut. I lost out on that beast of a card smh.
@cadetsparklez3300 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt know philip made these.. though i was on @AdoredTV
@MrVenom- 4 жыл бұрын
4:45 oh come on man
@TADP0LE9806 4 жыл бұрын
We already have an idea of Navi 21 and Navi 23's specifications, 80 compute units on Navi 21 and 52 on Navi 23. Navi 21 is what people typically refer to as "Big Navi". They're both RDNA 2.0 chips and thus won't be part of the current generation. In the case of Navi 21, only enterprise/enthusiast-grade cards will have the full chip activated, the lesser models may feature 64/68/76 compute units. All Navi 21-based cards will likely beat the 2080 Ti by some margin, and Navi 23-based cards will be more competitive with 2080/2080S/2080 Ti. I personally think we'll see Ampere sooner than RDNA 2.0, and Nvidia's gains from 12nm to 7nm can't be understated, performance per watt and per core will increase by a substantial margin, as will clock speeds. Ampere will likely surpass what Navi can offer, I fear. RDNA 1.0's performance per watt is only around on par with Pascal, which was a 16nm architecture. Even Turing at 12nm is still in a league of its own as far as performance per watt goes, and the jump to 7nm Ampere should allow for massive gains.
@bobki1197 4 жыл бұрын
Nah bro I'm still waiting for that Talos Principle video you promised us
@mix3k818 4 жыл бұрын
Well, more so Big Navi
@10shi99 4 жыл бұрын
We still wait your video on Talos
@MaxiMuM1441 4 жыл бұрын
the rx 5700 xt performance really depends on the game. its kinda between 2060 super and 2080. for example it actually has more fps in battlefield 5 than a 2080.
@rednax2171 4 жыл бұрын
(Still) Waiting for the Talos Principle video
@skatcat743 4 жыл бұрын
Pascal didn't couldn't convince me to get rid of the GTX 960. Polaris never got fast enough. Vega was too warm. Turing was snake oil and arrogance. Navi 5700's price wasn't as low as we wished for but after the other recent architectures it got my money.
@redcloud4741 4 жыл бұрын
its not a gpu, i know but my fx 8350 is still going strong and keeping up. amazing for a cpu that came out in 2012 i think. its that cpu and motherboard which are the only remaining things from my original pc build.
@Scorpion-bi9or 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the second Talos Principle video... =(
@F1nicky 4 жыл бұрын
nice.
@Matoro-wp9hy 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most important things to consider is that CUs don't full scale all that well in games, it's the reason that running Vega 56 and 64 on the same GPU bios and overclocking both yields similar gaming results. However, that was on 14nm GCN, so it's hard to say how 7nm rDNA CUs could scale up in comparison. Perhaps 60 CUs would be the perfect amount, it's hard to say until we see something higher end
@Matoro-wp9hy 4 жыл бұрын
@@2kliksphilip It was also on a smaller lithography and had a much higher boost clock, so not the only generational change(not to mention, VII was better suited to production than gaming)
@GeorgePerakis 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not. I already bought a 5700. Enjoying it a lot. I can run stuff at 4k now. Big upgrade from a 1050ti.
@user-fs1uc8yv8i 4 жыл бұрын
Quite some time ago now I got myself a 270€ hd7970... I guess you must be right about the poor man's choice thing but it sure was nice to have a premium card in terms of performance while paying less than 300€.
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
I got this recommended to me on a Valve video. Coincidence... *I THINK* it is.
@Andulvar 4 жыл бұрын
Same prices for people out in the UK and Europe maybe, but there is still some savings when you go with AMD over Nvidia. Not much mind you, but $100 is still savings here in the West.
@TheKrzysiek 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, listen!
@rays3761 4 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on getting a 2070 super. I would get a 5700 xt, however there are still stability issues so I'll just stick with Nvidia. If they fixed their driver issues I'm sure they'd have a much greater market share. People want a product that's well rounded.
@SamCyanide 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 5700xt, seems pretty competitive
@tomam258 4 жыл бұрын
Nokia failed just because they announced a phone that will rule them all and it would come soon. Sales dropped until that phone arrived. It was not even so good.
@vertonical 4 жыл бұрын
People who want AMD to be competitive just so they can buy their favorite Nvidia card at cheaper prices are part of the problem.
@MapleLeafAce 4 жыл бұрын
And theres nothing wrong with that. Nvidia generally has better performance and if competition brought prices down, an Nvidia card would be a no brainer.
@joperamod5760 4 жыл бұрын
@@MapleLeafAce That would only for the high-end
@naughtmeinam4603 4 жыл бұрын
@@MapleLeafAce You sound exactly like the people Philips was describing in the video...
@Elitist 4 жыл бұрын
You're missing the point that more people would buy AMD cards still anyway. Not dominating the market isn't the same as not thriving in it. If people won't buy AMD at lower prices, why the fuck would they buy them at the same or higher?!
@liuner2479 4 жыл бұрын
@@joperamod5760 and why would you want anything lower than higher end?
@SconVideos 4 жыл бұрын
What you said here is so true. AMD has been rather unfortunate in regards to their image and sales.
@Albixdd 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Talos Principle video :)
@DeconvertedMan 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Listen! HEY! HEY!
@XDeadzX 4 жыл бұрын
My wait for navi has been sated with other cards for the time being. It might not be over yet, but it's no longer at the front of my mind. We'll see when consoles get navi too... Will likely make for a good pick.
@T1C 4 жыл бұрын
soon
@corombb 4 жыл бұрын
PS5 uses Navi 10, which is RDNA 1.0. Same die as the RX 5600 XT, RX 5700, and RX 5700 XT. Specwise it's an overclocked RX 5700 with 16GB of VRAM instead of 8GB. Xbox Series X also uses a Navi GPU, supposedly with 56 compute units, so it's likely to be RDNA 2.0/Navi 20 because no current Navi GPU has more than 40 CUs.
@s2korpionic 4 жыл бұрын
You know full well gamers won't buy a Radeon GPU unless it's half the price of a GeForce and at twice the performance. I'm may have exaggerated there, a bit.
@CIARUNSITE 4 жыл бұрын
I still wouldn't buy it since AMD's past products have been so shit and relied on the same value proposition I refuse to be fooled again. They already ripped me off twice. I already feel the appropriate amount of shame without being fooled a 3rd time.
@roboticrebel4092 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIARUNSITE could you please elaborate?
@rafee9442 4 жыл бұрын
@@roboticrebel4092 probably fx-series ptsd
@BombaJead 4 жыл бұрын
You exagerated a lot, but really the reason is simpler amd's marketing for gpus has been incosistent over the years and also they don't have a halo product like nvidia had with their 1080ti, and now the 2080ti. Add to that the delays and the mining boom and the picture becomes clearer.
@roboticrebel4092 4 жыл бұрын
@@rafee9442 understandable
@MemeMan69 4 жыл бұрын
More CPU/GPU Videos pls
@aaronINFINIT 4 жыл бұрын
I know literally nothing about this topic, I legit clicked on this thinking about the fairy from Zelda Oot xD maybe a theory or something xD but nope, good video still i guess xD
@b_basketballlover 4 жыл бұрын
honestly , can't wait to see what the rx 5900 xt has to offer . seems promising
@sil3nt490 4 жыл бұрын
kliksphilip should make more tech videos
@arronyt7452 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 Philip: navi navi navi My Ears: Nazi Nazi Nazi. I think I needa lay off on some of that coffee.
@DavidJonSpem 4 жыл бұрын
Well AMD is more populair on the linux side of things for desktop users
@faolor6468 4 жыл бұрын
I have really been waiting for Navi even though I won't be able to buy a Navi gpu
@vector9511 4 жыл бұрын
(Still) Waiting for The Talos Principle spoiler video.
@pogodrummer 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on the Talos video
@verebellus 4 жыл бұрын
id like to see some 6000XT 120compute unit powerhouse of a card for computing and video editing
@davidbischi 4 жыл бұрын
Firepro cards?
@ThePrayingMantis08 4 жыл бұрын
The grills on the RX 5700 XT look like guitar strings
@MyNamaShoko 4 жыл бұрын
underDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
@stolencheese 4 жыл бұрын
Think I'm just hold on till Navi 2
@MrMoon-hy6pn 4 жыл бұрын
This comment section has a slight case of the salt and a mild ailment called edge
@fager5250 4 жыл бұрын
God bless competition
@RayTC 4 жыл бұрын
*HEY, LISTEN!*
@borofreak 4 жыл бұрын
They need to remove Guardian from the roster.
@thecrionic 4 жыл бұрын
Times have changed. Marketing is marketing but word of mouth is REALLY big right now and it's a small Internet we preside in. Instead of following up on their strategy with Ryzen, decimating the oponent at the respective price range (a win-win both for the corp. and us) , they decide to play along and just shoot for better margins. It's honestly mind-boggling unless they want to cash in before they sell off Radeon...
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