"I have two taps enabled right now." *bang bang* WE RAN OUT OF MEDALS "Oh." Is just perfect comedic timing.

Am genuinely farming for healclip incandescant ...around 50 rolls with no luck so far ...and tried with 40 rolls of sumonner with no luck too Edit : reason why I want this so bad is as follows , when final shape drops , prismatic hunters will lose that ability to go invis or use solar healing grenade or devour , having a heal clip weapon fixes the issue , but guess what ? Bungie stated that on prismatic hunters killing any ennemy affected by a debuff aka volatile jolt or scortch will make you invisible , so visualize having a prismatic hunter that goes fully invis after each kill allowing him to reload at ease to go full health Edit 2 : GUYS I GOT IT !!!! AFTER 126 ROLLS I GOT IT OMG FINALLLLLYYYYY IT EVEN HAS 80 FREAKING RELOAD SPEED LETS GO

This is a PC specific visual thing. If you turn your FOV down to what console is using the gun never jumps and blocks the reticle. They’ve talked about fixing this in the past but never have.

I got my shiny Luna's Howl with Heal clip and Incandescent for my Warlock and it does wonders both in Onslaught and even Pantheon. It really adds something I didn't know I was missing tbh. As for PvP, ofc nothing can beat Austringer, it just feels right on MnK to me.

Counterpoint: 50 Range Hand Cannons feel like trash. “Good enough” isn’t good enough for me. (But I suppose Not Forgotten would be the way to go then)

I knew Not Forgotten felt better but I was wrong about why apparently. I thought it had to do with the range stat and the better aim assist cone that came with it, but it turns out it was the recoil the whole time. The more you know

I've been using NF ever since Into the Light started and it just feels so good to use even without any exotics. It's nice because unintentionally Bungie retroactively validated my effort in getting Not Forgotten back when you actually could. My achievement mattered, just not in how the intended it to

I’m on mnk and was doing pretty well with the curated roll. Farmed up some new rolls but have not tried them yet. I have the original not forgotten and Luna in the vault waiting for the power level update

I’m curious to see how the health changes impacted Crimson. Is the TTK the same? Does it require more or less precision hits to achieve optimal TTK? Has the range/falloff TTK been impacted?

I was only hoping for them to fix that recoil animation since they made it a 140, unfortunately they didn't so I just gave up 😅

FYI You can craft the Adhoration solar pulse rifle with heal clip/incan if youre having troulbe getting the rng on luna's. Held me over for the two weeks it took to get the luna roll

Slideshot opening shot with 66 range( hammerforged high cal ) is the best i have rn but the more i use it the more i feel like i might aswell use Epochal to abuse triple unflinching on my solar builds. Precision I was decent with 71 range but discord ain't cutting it and ny maghowl is fun for 6s but without slideshot it just feels 'wrong'.

Heal clip precision intsrument is lovely

I deleted an Edge Transit with Deconstruct+Stickys(gives one mun. back after 2 shoots!!!) in the beginning from onslought - when i discovered my bad decison i tried to farm it out again for day s without luck ...by the way Blast F. with zen moment + rapid - feels soooooooooo good on the sticks - outerworldy freakin awsome !!! Elsie s with kill clip+under over + arrowhead break is freakin melting (got a shiny) - seems like Bungie opend the flood gates for good drops... Bungie we need the extra 100 vault spaces now !!! I enjoy Black Lagoon at the moment...

I absolutely stand by precision instrument. Yeah, it's only a tiny amount of extra range but I often find myself stacking it up againts several laners and getting some slightly farther and more forgiving kills in the chaos. Though I am playing on console so I avoid your problems with the gun at base

Got my god roll - Fluted, Rico, slideshot, opening shot, range mw. Still farming for more bc I just love this model (I play on controller (Xbox))

The roll I want is Heal Clip and Desperate Measures. I get you a hunter main might not want it, but as a pyrogale titan, getting a kill with consecration, and then being able to guarantee 3 piece with a guaranteed 2 tap is very valuable for me

I'm so glad you mentioned 1, that luna in general feels like a coin flip as to if you hit someone or not (mnk), and 2, zen moment on the old roles is absolute night and day better. Heal/incandescent for pve however is tasty on any device. Now, if you want a great 180 that can 3 tap and feels amazing on mnk, look no further than frontiers cry with kill clip.

One thing I am wanting to test with Lunas and Precision Instrument (When i eventually get one) is how it performs when shooting a frozen target with Whisper of Rending. Will it have the ability to 3 tap? If so, itll be great on my Shadebinder build!

Shinny slide shot and magnificent howl right? That’s what I’m using.

I have a Small Bore, Ricochet rounds, Slide shot, opening shot, Handling MW roll on my Luna and it's so good

Could anyone elaborate on the optative perfect cannon thing they brought up. Cuz I've been wanting to try both hipfire/tricorn and hipfire/offhand with radiant+lucky pants and see which is better for 3 taps. and if they've got thoughts on it I'd love to know. Thanks for the video glhf

My boy Sammy cammy trolling so hard RN

Wait so killclip is just invisible?

Just farmed a slideshot mag howl/precision instrument so I can go around 2 tapping everyone before they fix the glitch

I CAN SEE...I CAN FIGHT!! not the fairly oddparents reference 😭

20:30 I love the fact that the drop pod was the only one that could end his kill streak.

how do you have airborne effectiveness? i thought thats a warlock perk

Love the daly vids, keep it up!!

Just solo’s warlords using a heal clip incandescent Luna’s. Very worth is, but I’m curious how it will hold up without the artifact perks.

That onslaught part was a mood 😂 quite a few ppl wanted rng drops again instead of crafting but now that we have it for the avg player who doesn’t get lucky id rather just have it guaranteed after some time played then to quite literally never be able to try the roll I’m interested in, the game has been going on for 10 years now we don’t need like the forsaken spare rations level of farming again lol

I got a max range moving target midnight coup 2 weeks ago and stopped spending tokens after that. I had about 600 tokens the day luna howl came out. Got a fluted/ flared or ext/ slide opening after using about 450. Stopped farming again. Now I am playing path of exlle while i wait.

glad to know this is why i keep missing the last shot

I think the drop amounts for the coins in onslaught is unbelievable, either let us reset shaxx or increase coin drops across all activities

I got a heal clip incand for pve but I'm looking for the mythical golden subsistence incand roll

Do you think once precision instrument is enhanceable it will be worth?

if you put a icarus mod on it you have 60 ae its a precision frame it has 25+ ae at all times and 60 ae feels pefect

I don't farm anything in onslaught. Whatever weapon I get to drop with decent rolls I keep. Some times I get shiny one's but I don't target farm anything in that activity. The Luna roll you have is similar to mine, 2 difference's the mag perk and masterwork! And yes I agree the old Luna's and not forgotten are better because of zen moment but the rolls you get on Luna's is pretty good!

Inconsistent - yet slightly above average Crucible enjoyer here. I find the recoil to be managable on MnK, and I am using a max range roll with full-bore and ricochet. I wouldn't want to use a 140 with less than 65 range, as it would get walked on by other 140s, 120s, and pretty much any pulse rifle. I also think precision instrument is worth running even in 6s. I had multiple engagements last night with 2-3 people at once, where I stacked up the headshot damage into the 90s and won the fight because of it. It stacks well with radiant, which is super easy to get this season - and when next season starts, you can enhance precision instrument to allow you a 1 bodyshot - 2 headshot kill on guardians with 3 resilience or lower. Tldr: recoil is fine on MnK if you use the gun for a few hours, precision instrument is great for duals against multiple guardians, and being able to jump and accurately shoot the gun with just an icarus grip feels amazing. I still think this is an 8/10 on MnK with the right rolls, and it's become my favorite 140 as a Titan main who likes to jump a little too much.

animated outro scribe??!!?! youre getting better every day cammy

when i heard about the rewark i was hyped "I'd have ace in the energy slot" but the gun (sadly) is unusable

So you’re saying there a difference in controller vs MnK? Like gun input vs sliding one direction and shooting the other!? Gasp 😱

It really needed zen moment for you to like and I respect that. I love it and with high stability I am having success on mnk. Farming on repeat sucks I agree. You min max too hard cam ❤. Love ya tho keep up the great content.

Old school not forgotten and Luna’s suck in Iron Banner or Comp/trials. But once they’re unsunset with the launch of TFS then they’ll be top picks.

is there a hand cannon/other weapon u recommend most for mnk players?

Personally, I earned my luna’s howl back then and barely had time to fully enjoy it. Glad they are unsunstetting the weapons. The new drops aren’t so bad and don’t mind playing around with different rolls as they are all pretty fun to play versus others. Not planning to dismantle them or stop farming any of these weapons as I’m having fun testing all the rolls I get my hands on. Hope everyone gets a good roll they enjoy the most.

Heal clip + mag howl is amazing together.

Literally have his perfect roll 😩

i've genuinely been enjoying luna's with precious scars. it's definitely not very potent but i still find it unique enough to be fun.

Why extended mag when the new lunas reaches 60 ae with Icarus grip? As well the we're getting some helmet mods with final shape. I figure cammy wants as high of an ae stat as possible but would most people care past 60 ae?

Yeah last week i got the not forgotten at the kiosk and gave this thing the middle finger, zen moment is just too juicy and sunset is gone, no point farming for this.

this gun is goated on console. slide & opening and EOS + PI is my choice for console

I got every shiny god roll possible of this weapon. Im on controller and it feels great.

I’m looking for a 10/10 Heal Clip + Incandescent for PVE and Slideshot + Mag Howl for PVP

I see the point about opening shot, but thats only good for one bullet, precision instrument is every bullet after the first. I play MnK, I have the most 5/5 you can get wtih slideshot, precision, this thing is the best handcannon I've used since the initial swap of 110s to 120s. The recoil was jarring at first, but after almost 2000 kills I don't even notice the gun model anymore.

Somehow there's only one non-sunset 180 with zen moment (optatitive), which is super disappointing

"It's a precision frame 140rpm hand cannon" -statements by the UTTERLY DERANGED

enhanced precision instrument will 2c1b 3 resil

to get around the recoil/blocking problem i'll flick my mouse away from the target after every shot then bring it back right as im about to take another.

60 ae is so nice, wish other hcs could get this base

so precious scars really helped me to the light house for the last couple of trials weekends but I used summoner alot that overshields really helps the reset like you wouldnt believe

I want it for pve doe, heal clip and incandescent is cool.

I'm getting a pve version with heal clip and incandescent :D

Not Forgotten feels better to me than a god roll lunas, probably because of zen moment, I don’t know but I’m gonna keep using NF, while farming Luna now and then

I got a god roll adept zaouli With explosive payload and eots Guess I don't need Luna anymore

i dont need a 5/5 roll i just need incandescent havent gotten a single one but like 3 shinys with perks i dont need because they arent incandescent

One word. SHINY ✨

I don't use M&K. On controller to this day Not Forgotten (and others with the same recoil) are the only hand cannons I ever use because all handcannons on controller are uncontrollable to me. Worse i'm not on console so i'm stuck playing against M&K players so yeah i basically quit pvp. That said i have ever Luna's roll i could want so i haven't farmed it since a two days after it launched.

Even on controller I prefer regular 140s, the recoil throws me off too much. If I wanted to shoot a 180, I would.

I still await the day that bungie sees zen moment and triple unflinching are mandatory and removes primary flinch entirely to allow other options.

If you're using a warlock use transverse step with Luna's howl a very interesting reaction, give it a try you can stack those final rounds up to 10

That's why Ive never liked that arquetype you can't see shit when you're shooting.

Now he says "Don't farm...". And in next season we will see video about "Luna's Howl - best hc, if u didnt get it - you lose" xD

Precision instrument is so good beacuse you can 2tap and 1body when you are radiant ,and it just need a 3tap that you can be radiant easily.

I think I'm going to stop farming it at this point. I'm on M&K. I'm also glad that I farmed Palindrome Adept when it was available. Outside of exotics, I either use Pali or Bottom Dollar depending on the map with a Void PVP build for my Titan. Its done well so far in 6s and 3s.

I think bro meant to say lunas howl (Vostok) at 5:05 before he says not forgotten is better btw

why don’t camry snap skate? once i learned i can’t stop and unblinded my melee

I'm a PvP main, and flutted barrel is the best

Honestly with the amount of 140s ive been seeing (mainly lunas) sunshot having a straight up faster ttk really helps win duels in neutral.

Cammy with the truth

@5:40 This has always been my problem with Destiny. I've adapted over the years. But for most guns in this game, especially hand cannons, to not finish recoiling at their optimal ttk is crazy game design. I think that's why so many people either love or hate PVP. You either compensate and get good or the skill isn't there and you hate it. Interesting choice by bungie with that.

Luna's stability is amazing and becomes evident on the first try. I was disappointed though when I used in PVP. It was not doing much damage (pea shooter). I only kept rolls with good range but... Note: Crimson seems to have been NERFed as well. Note: I play PS4 w/ controller but not so frequently so perhaps what is a surprise to me is already reality for most who play constantly.

Good shout out for MnK Crimson, people sleep on it for sure but I do agree with your comment, having the right ornament helps a ton. Iridescent Death or the one Awoken one from a little while back help immensely with not having the reticle dot get thrown about.

benn trying a bunch of diffrent rolls for luna's, it just does not feel as good on mnk than the old nf/luna, prob gonna go back to nf, i hope once we get nf if we ever get it it can roll something like zen moment slideshot/opening shot, mag howl now to me is just a win more perk that won't do anything most of the time

So, we know they will retroactive enhance the perks BUT can we change the barrel or masterwork as well?

Petition to give 180's and Mag Howl weapons the original Handcannon animations.

Why have I seen both you and SirD use the "Totsugeki" account?

so been farming a healclip incandecent roll with a reload mag and amster work aswell as some other various flavous for pvp, even if the recoil is a kinda jank 180 recoil on a 140 frame, but my god this gun has either a bugged focus that doesnt work or a weighted drop rate to be worse than any other gun I have done a ton of 50 waves both normal and legend, I have lost count of how many runs I have done and ill see maybe 5 lunas at best on a full 50 waves, have even seen none on a 50 wave legend run, not a single luna, with any other gun ill see 10 at the LOW END and 30+ drop on the high end -.- this cant just be me this cant be just bad rng with how consistanly bad the drops are with this gun -.-

when can we say that not being able to deal with the recoil animation is just a skill issue?

hmm but it looks better than zaouli's so i might as well

counterpoint: i need the pve roll

MUST HAVE 9/5 RAAAAAA!!!

Luna’s Howl shooting animation day 1 has been a turn off to me. Slideshot almost made me want to grind for the gun though.

tldr?

keep farming lunas if you want easy 2 taps. but MAKE SURE the weapon has over 55 range even if you have slideshot. this thing shoots ghost bullets like crazy. if weapon model is an issue just play stretched, the game plays better that way anyway lol.

Go outside Cammy. Take a walk. Read a book.

Good thing I'm on console you boomba

Don’t tell me what to do

No lol. Feels good to me.

My RNG sucks in D2, The more I play the activity it feels like my RNG gets worse 😆 If I get the roll I'm looking for, cool. If I don't get it, I get off and go play a different game