"Dont be mad if your character is in the trash tier. It doesnt mean they're trash." Suddenly, I'm questioning all of JWongs tier lists...

This video was a throwback to when you ran out of quarters and were just chilling in the food court talking about the characters with the homies.

"smug is dudley" i love that.

Rolento in low S LTG screeches in the distance

I love how the reason for Ryu being low is that "he's not cheap enough"

Justin: Rolento is S tier LTG has left the chat...😂

It is amazing that they were able to achieve this level of balance with that many characters.

One of the things I really appreciate USF4 for is that Dan got rebalanced into a non joke character. That Dan kick pressure and Air Dan Kick mobility was super cheesy and actually made him fun to play

The S in Saikyo also stands for S-Tier so for that matter I think you should move Dan up to the top.

The only reason anyone remember Dudley was because smug popularized him.. mad combos mad setups.. mad mad reaction.. he became the moyour of duff city.. respect man.. the only person in sf4 that played Dudley one one.. no one even bothered to pick him up.. mad respect for smug..

"Juri is really good" -C tier lol

Almost all of LTG's mains are in either top, or S tier (Rose, Rolento, Poison, Guy)

Might be kinda controversial, but SF4 is easily my favorite Street Fighter game and probably one of the best FGs out there to me. Might be because I developed an interest in (competitive) fighting games around the time when SF4 vanilla came out, and that interest only grew over the years as new editions of SF4 released. This was my main game for a hell of a long time, and all my experiences at local tournaments and such stem from this game kicking it all off for me. Yeah, I'm a dirty '09er.

I miss zangiefs green hand.... That should have been his vtrigger 2

The fact you put that much of a percentage of the cast into the top two tiers shows how great the balance of this game was

Never would imagine Honda higher on the list than Ryu lol.

hey man doing a USF4 tier list is actually incredibly difficult but i think your list was pretty good overall

Vega's placement hurt me physically,emotionally and spiritually

Hey Justin why don't you stream some Ultra Street Fighter sometimes 😃😉🕹

I miss this game so much, I wish capcom would run SFV, USFIV and Third Strike in Capcom Pro Tour. They have current gen ports of all the games so it'd be nice to see them getting some competitive support

Also, can we talk about this Eggman remix, and WHO THE HELL MADE IT?! *sees in the start of the vid* oh...okay.

Damn bro you said a whole sentence about my girl Juri

Bro, seeing this vid just randomly reminded me of those breakdowns you did for the 3rd strike characters in super SSF4....like 10 years ago. Never forget those beats either, so damn cool.

Eggman's theme mashed with the OreImo theme? Yep, that's my favorite Street Fighter song.

Miss this game so much. Thx for da content!

SF4 had so much more character in play style. It's been said before, but if you watch the same character 5 matches in a row and no player name is showing, you can easily tell which player is playing at the time. I hope the next SF after 5 has every character and a better universal system. (i.e. mp/mk overhead from 3s/focus attack 4). I know company's need to make money, but having a game with real longevity is what makes a game fun to watch. To this day I watch videos from vanilla to USF4, and see all the tech be developed overtime is amazing. Even seeing Daigo abuse option selects in vanilla was amazing!

Cheers Justin, stay safe with your family . Thank you for the content

King of Fighters man! Particularly '98 Ultimate Match, 2002 Unlimited Match, and XIII

This is one of my top 5 favorite fighting games. This game is awesome

I remember J.Wong talking about grapplers on the NoFrillz podcast especially SF4 Gief. Dude went in on em. He seemed slightly triggered in this video lol

Hi Justin thanks for the video! At the beginning i felt kinda triggered when you put Ryu in C considering he got 2 Evo tournaments in his back but then again i agree with that you said. He always starts beeing godlike at the beginning and then he can't abuse or evolve with the system when more characters are introduced.

i want to see USF4 tier list next ! this one was great, really well said ! do it again and we will hear other opinions that didnt get said this time ! i do enjoy listening to your opinions on these matters. well said.

Proud to be a Dan main and Akuma secondary. Also known as "team Little Big"

Love that mashup of E.G.G.M.A.N and Irony by ClariS at the start.

Yun not top ten? Tripping Early ultra gief was top 5. He was too much lol

Gen was my main. I agree that he is more solid than people give him credit for. I was consistently able to hang with world-class players using him. I also played Bison, Rolento and Blanka on a regular basis. Fun fact: A guy playing Vega managed to win the Swedish championship towards the end of the game's cycle, so that is a big testament to how good the design is in this game. (Another fun fact is that the same guy kicked me out of his lobby after losing to my Blanka ... but God damn, Blanka WAS an annoying character.)

Damn boy, put more question marks in the title and some red highlights in the thumbnail, will ya? Slick video!

T. Hawk is amazing and his command grab does so much damage, pretty underrated honestly

You're a living legend. Keep up the good work

this is the only usf4 tier list on youtube thank you

As a lifelong Guy main, since SFA, I can confirm his Ultra 2 is the coolest thing in the world. It would actually make him a great character if it worked. But unlike virtually any other move in the game, you can't use input shortcuts to execute it. And unlike most Ultras/Supers, it's a half circle back instead of quarter circle. It would be one of the best punish moves in the game if you could consistently pull it off, but it's just so difficult, even for players with great execution. I could consistently land one frame links online, but had a ton of trouble pulling off his Ultra consistently. Before they nerfed SRKxxFADCxxDash forward, it was -2 and a common tactic fo many characters and players, and I used to get awesome punishes with U2. But as a zero frame throw, it should punish everything -1 or worse, which is difficult to do on reaction, but way harder with no input shortcuts. If it worked, it would have been a game changer for him, as he was vulnerable to rush down because his only reversal cost meter and you couldn make it safe. But if you had Ultra, the opponent would have to worry than any move -1 would lead to them losing half of their life. It would encourage people to try Andrew zone him even though he was so hard to zone with his Bushin flip, especially Ex, and same thing with run slide, especially EX, and even his shoulder could hit a predictable projectile, and was pretty safe on a bad read/guess.

I love the claris music in the background. Fuck i must rewatch oreimo and eromanga sensei

I appreciate the acknowledgment that I have to work harder with Vega to win in this game. I still say Dan has a dp and a tatsu mix up while Deejay has a good fireball and ex dp as well knee bazooka which has priority and allows a change of jump arc so I’d say both those bottom 3s are stronger though I would say Deejay is a C tier imo

Brilliantly done Jwong

Wonder how this would change if you allow version select. Which broken character was most broken?

How awesome would it be if Justin did a video elaborating on his plinking tactics with Rufus and just about plinking in general in SFIV

19:00 (english subtitles) "after that we're gonna go of cookin cocaine" lol

Would love to see your Super Turbo tier list.

Brings back so many good memories man...

Nice to meet u, Justin^^ Hv u been to the SF4 EVO b4?

That Oreimo mashup in the beginning tho

Good video. Do more games!

Most practical tierlist ever. How about the other way around? If you where a bot, what character would win?

Can we get a tierlist on easiest to hardest characters to play?

I didn't realize my main eventually made it to S tier. I was a C. Viper main . I played in tournaments for vanilla and Super and I think she was just mid back then. Hardly anybody used her either. I think I remember hearing during Arcade Edition somebody winning Evo with her. I'm not sure.

All I can say that, I didn't own any console after ps1 but I saw a footage of diago playing as ryu in sfiv and diago was the man who made me to buy sfiv pc version and a atrox arcade stick, before that my last street fighter game I played was alpha 3 on ps1.

Is that that wario ware DIY soundtrack. So fire

Looking back at because pops wants that run back on the PS3 little does he know im scheming and studying for my training Edit also proud Ibuki main here

Claris-Irony on an usf4 tierlist in 2020. Man, my saturday just got good!!

Is Oni just not good or is he under played because for me I think evil Ryu makes sense but regular Akuma though he's good I wouldn't expect that someone educate me because I come from the Smash community but I know my street fighter gaming fundamentals but never chose to be competitive in the game I started with mvc2 then street fighter and then playing street fighter 4 and V after years of different childhood video games and played Oni more then Akuma whilst also playing ER with Oni so things confused me a bit here from a casual perspective

It’s kind of weird that Elena and Chun Li switched places from Street Fighter 3 to 4

Although this video is a a few years too late, I still appreciate J.Wong for creating this Tier list. Cheers!

I was a Hakan main since Super and it was the first fighting game I ever got into seriously/competetively. Talk about making it hard for yourself.

I love USF4. Ryu and Ken are my two favorites to play as.

decapre teleport was so crazy I really feels like you're fighting a ghost a lot of the time 😂

I think you underrate Chun, Juri, and Yang. They are probably A Tier

Guy's Instant air grab is vicious. I'd put him a little higher. And then of course, since I was a Vega player, I'd have him higher as well lol. The only reason people consider Vega trash is because his moves have very little invincibility and all of his links are 1 frame links but to that regard, if you know how to play Vega you know that he's not a combo heavy character anyway. He's best played defensively.

I’m waiting for Street Fighter X Tekken tier list.

Guile and DJ were my mains while Honda and Rose were my trolling characters 😊

SF4 is still 100x better than SFV by a long shot, wish SF4 was brought back to capcom cup........the fights in SF4 were and still are more entertaining to watch than SFV matches.......imo.

My thoughts on the whole list: S-Tier: Can't really argue, i can see the argument for Gief and Abel. I would've put Poison in there too. A-Tier: Bit surprised by the Guy choice but i can't argue, he's mad good and slept on. Chun is in A i feel. Maybe Bipson, Bipson prolly B. B-Tier: Can't put Oni in here before Makoto dawg :P Balrog, Chun and Hugo have to be B-Tier or A-Tier C-Tier: Really feel like you're sleeping on Balrog, Chun and Hugo Trash: Yea, accurate. Might throw Honda and Sim in here too. Overall, very good list. Lots of really accurate and uncommon opinions in here like Adon, Rolento, Gief, Rose, Abel, Ken, Fuerte

ehh the first ultra on oni is dope asf when u get the close range animation especially with the ko laugh he does

On the 3DS you could make the buttons (a,b,y,x)be a charge move and it made Balrog unbeatable I figured out a strat for every character and destroyed grandmasters

1:01 breh Eduardo still on that Barlog though x,DD

Got the One X last week and I see that it's backwards compatible, does people still play it USFIV?

Favorits are juri and cammy. Now we need a street fighter 5 tier list. Ultra one of my Favorit fighting games.

Oni is banned in tournament play

I always thought the 5 characters added in ultra were kinda too good I'm dumb ways. We needed another balance patch especially for rolento 😂

I would say Ryu is a bit higher and Hakan is lower. Elena is SS tier and in some cases so is Poison. In general I agree with the rest. I love this game (I'm still playing, never got around to playing SF5 after 4, SF5 seems so boring). Thanks for the list Justin

I miss the SF4 days I feel like the FGC was so alive in comparison to today.

I'm gonna buy this when I get paid. I used to have it on my ps3. I feel like trying Abel. He looks like someone from Kengan Ashura. Did you say Abel was good? Cheers! Its £5.79 on the ps store. It can't be missed.

Thanks justin its nice to know you still believe fei long has potential cuz all my friends think the opposite

My favorite character of the whole series at the time was Adon, and Adon was the absolute best he's ever been in SF4. I was thoroughly pleased with what they did to my guy who i screamed to the heavens to put in Super

So how many characters in S tier have a 5-5 matchup versus Elena?

ST tier list next please!

Elena is S tier when compared to the roster as a whole for sure. However, she has bad match ups against other "S" tier characters like Evil Ryu, Akuma, Cammy, and Yun. A lot of her really dominating match ups are also characters that you don't see on a regular basis in top level play, unless it's someone counter picking. I think this makes her a great counter, counter pick however. If you beat someone in the first match, and they make a counter pick and beat you in the second, chances are that character is one that gets bodied by her.

Do a tier list for Alpha 3

I am no pro player and I am no master on say, Blanka. But if others can play him at 120% we say, they play him at 120%, but when popular characters are played to the fullest potential, we say they are high tier or cheap. I think Blanka has an absolutely disgusting amount of range in this game. He has a lot of safe poke / neutral and footsies. He has a TON of range with his normals as well. He has the slide and his dash back / forward and old school Vega like evade.... make him so he can keep people guessing.I guess the problem is when you can switch sides in a blink, you cant also charge moves. If they gave him traditional shodo move commands he would be God tier. I think the mixup on blanka is very good and people never seem to see it till way later. Like in Turbo.

Capcom should DEFINITELY release a comemorative balance patch to USFIV! One of the greatest fighting games ever, and we have an active community still playing it. No need to invest development, or new characters. Just frame data and damage adjustments. It bothers me to this day that Elena is on Leroy´s level of nerfing needs. It would be much appreciated and would bring back a lot of players.

bro can’t believe how far away gief and yun were from the start

Is that oreimo's opening in the background.

As a Gen main seeing so many characters get mentioned before him was crazy. He's definitely low S not low A.

Yeah I’m playing some USFIV tomrw

How about all editions roster tier list from II to VI

My only confusion is why this game has not made it to switch yet I'm also wondering that about marvel versus Capcom two and ultimate marvel versus Capcom three I would probably even get more versus One but in my honest opinion I don't think that game was that great until part two

pretty solid except maybe Gief, Guy, and Makoto. They had too many bad match ups to be placed where you put them

I actually have pride knowing Vega, my main was bottom 3 and still was winning natches though certain matchups ie Rufus were a nightmare

dat sonic adventure 2 remix, need the instrumental

How did akuma gain weight when he transform into oni

juri is always #1, oni and evil ryu are awesome too