Studio Monitor Review at Vintage King - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro

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Studio Monitor Review at Vintage King - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro

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Studio Monitors tested in this shootout:
Focal SM9: vintageking.com...
Barefoot MicroMain 45: vintageking.com...
Micro Main 35 Gen 2: vintageking.com...
ATC SCM25A: vintageking.com...
PMC twotwo.8: vintageking.com...
Today I want to share a studio monitor shootout I recently did with Vintage King.
When looking for a new set of studio monitors, testing, and reading reviews online, most of time you will find about 3-5 top contestants that would make good options for you. So how can you tell which of these speakers are the perfect fit?
With this video, I want to try to help you to answer that question: I visit Vintage Kings showroom in L.A. and we test 5 different sets of speakers in the mid - high-end segment. Each of these speakers have received great reviews and are go-to choices in this price range.
In the shootout producer/mixer Alex Oana and I point out the different tonal characteristics of each of the speakers, their optimal use and benefits depending on the style of music you're working in. We also and discuss which speakers we would prefer in a producing/recording vs. mixing environment.
Alex shares great insights into different factors that will impact the sound of your monitors: Speaker placement, room treatment and size, different monitor designs and cabinet characteristics, 2 way speakers vs. 3 way speakers and more.
Produce Like A Pro is a website which features great tips to help the beginning recordist make incredible sounding home recordings on a budget.

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@Healody 3 жыл бұрын

I just find it so funny that a serious talk lasting an hour about mixing and sound is filled with a buzzing sound all throughout.

@dr.donath Жыл бұрын

The really funny thing is when they test studio monitors and have no idea how to install it. In the video the PMC Twotwo8 was installed incorrectly, the tweeter should be inside according to the user manual. Obviously in that position you can't expect it to perform properly.

@ZiwaHD Жыл бұрын

electromagnetic interference happens when you have electricity ⚡️ running through 24 and up ⬆️ magnetic 🧲 fields ; drivers etc ! Running an analog studio with a bunch of outboard and multiple monitors has been a great lesson for me regarding this phenomenon!

@JohannesLabusch 6 ай бұрын

Joke's on anyone listening to a monitor test on computer speakers, hoping to get an idea ...

@anyerquantum.nuclearrites 29 күн бұрын

spend a full hour thinking this! 🤣

@aaronpohl9817 3 жыл бұрын

This last sentence of yours, “have good relationships” defined the whole video for me. So, I have to admit: I’m just sitting at breakfast watching this video not for more reason then just enjoying the two of you nerding around and having a good relationship. Thanks for that! 😅

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Friends, I hope you're all doing marvellously well! Special thanks again to Vintage King for letting us come by and film a video on Studio Monitors with them! In this video we get to look at the Focal SM9, Barefoot MicroMain 45 & 53 Gen 2, ATC SCM25A and the PMC twotwo. This are all relatively expensive Studio Monitors between 6-9k Powered Speakers. It gives us an insight into what many Professional Studios are choosing these days. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@davearooney 7 жыл бұрын

I have a pair of MicroMain45's arriving tomorrow!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic David! Let's us know what you think! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@Richard_P_James 7 жыл бұрын

I've heard the SM9s in action - great speakers! You can also switch out the sub and the larger driver converting it to something more like a nearfield NS10 (that's the idea anyway).

@Richard_P_James 7 жыл бұрын

Look forward to the mid priced speaker comparisons. Very interesting to hear comments in this video from both Warren and Alex. Would be interesting to see a coaxial speaker shootout - seems to be a few of them out there at the moment.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

I agree Richard! They are great speakers!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@TradeMarcmultimedia 6 жыл бұрын

I havent visited this channel in a while (I've been busy with visual production stuff) , but I knew i would eventually come back to rewatch this video..I started considering a monitor upgrade today and suddenly all the brands started rushing into my mind with the infinite options and questions one would ask themselves..which can be overwhelming. This video is such a good resource and both you guys do an outstanding job of presenting - your tone and pacing is excellent and most importantly there is no doubt that the opinions expressed come from a place of great knowledge. Well done gents (one year later..almost to the day apparently)

@yfz450rider39 6 жыл бұрын

I loved this! Listening to these educated and experienced guys talking about quality speakers!

@Aquiiin 5 жыл бұрын

That noise in the background is not living up to an audio engineer's standards I have to say. Super annoying

@i20010 4 жыл бұрын

that's his mic rubbing his shirt, super amateurish.

@robjones8764 4 жыл бұрын

itai that high pitched whistle is pretty damning

@recapitationguitars-Egregore 3 жыл бұрын

@@robjones8764 Hear the gate on it. The buzz coming from the guy with the mic. He has the wrong mic for what he's doing being around all those cranked up speakers. They gated it out some.

@recapitationguitars-Egregore 3 жыл бұрын

Just 60hz hum. It happens.

@hyperliteBo 7 жыл бұрын

Glad u liked the Focals, still in love with my Focal Solo 6's after many years of using them :)

@pmSTUDIOse 7 жыл бұрын

Great video on this. The "Horses for Courses" analogy is very important and so easy to forget. That point you were making about tracking vs mixing is spot on, especially if you have clients coming in to your studio. Have a great weekend!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that! I' glad you picked up on that itzaStudio!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@seanms35 6 жыл бұрын

"It's nice to out of your comfort zone!" Agreed. It really makes you use your ears.

@Producelikeapro 6 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100% Sean!

@CIRCLEOFTONE 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. As ever. I researched speakers but it was a Facebook post from Ola Englund that made me buy my set. He returned some top brand speaker and kept his Berhinger truth ribbon monitors because he could not hear enough of a difference to justify the cost. I don't judge speakers on how they sound. I pick them from the results of my fav producers mixers. His mixes transferred to a million guitarists homes with such a great great impact/clarity mix. His mixes sounded great in my car, earbuds, headphones, living room and a million other living rooms in youtube land. So I went with the (top of the line) Berhingers. They are not cheap by their standard but I'm happy with my results. Albeit I record in standard E tuning vs Ola extended low tuning ranges. He's changed speakers since but that quote always stuck with me. Here are my results (bear in mind these are p90 pickups in a standard E tuned guitar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frenbLOgr-Cco58.html

@wammbarro 4 жыл бұрын

Alex is so passionate and informative about the speakers that it was a lot of fun to watch and I took a lot from it. Superb.

@t.b.a.r.r.o. 4 жыл бұрын

I moved my surround system from a bedroom in one house, to the bedroom in a different house. Went from great sounding (8.5 out of 10) to complete crap (3 of 10). The first room was 14 x 16. Bed headboard was 2 feet from the back 14' wall. Sub under the bed. All 5 position speakers were well placed. C, FR, FL were ear level a couple feet from the tv wall. The BR, BL were on the floor in the corners on the back wall. It was creepy how much separation the backs had. Fronts were good too. Sub was near perfect. The new room is 22 × 10 and I can not perfect the speak positions. Partly because only half that space is available to be tweaked, yet the rest is fully open to the sound field. Everything I watch now I have to use subtitles. I'm tempted to remove the sub-wolfer to reduce the muddyness. But man I love that boom boom during a fight scene or an alien landing. The good news is I should be back into the first room in a year or so! My recording studio will be at least at the 8.5 level once I move back and set that room up.

@TheWorldTeacher 6 жыл бұрын

I suspected the ATC's would be the most accurate-sounding (based on my experience with them and the other brands - minus the Barefoots, which I've never even seen, let alone heard) and I wasn't disappointed. I was VERY close to buying a larger pair of ATC's but instead found an even nicer pair of main monitors for a fraction of the price. They were manufactured in Sydney for use by Sony Music Mastering. I own the final pair ever produced (lucky me). :-D

@MootPoot 2 жыл бұрын

What speakers do you have?

@TheWorldTeacher 2 жыл бұрын

@@MootPoot, it is actually a remarkable coincidence that you asked, since I just put them on the market a couple of weeks ago. The brand is Landmark. I'm asking USD$15,000 for the pair, in case you are in the market for mastering monitors.

@officialWWM 3 жыл бұрын

I'd be happy with any of them!

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic

@slideguy1967 7 жыл бұрын

Super informative, and I very much appreciated Warren "keeping it real." I think a set of Barefoots might be in my near (no pun intended) future.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much Jerry! Glad you enjoyed the video and found it informative! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@_patrikjay_ 7 жыл бұрын

CAn't wait for more various budget range speaker VK videos.....BAREFOOT is on my Dream list....

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Patrik, there's one more video coming on Mid Priced Speakers! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@StevePhoenix 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing comparison! Thanks, Warren especially for not falling for the Gearslutz of saying "these are the best, full stop" and gave us the different contexts each would be best at. I would really love a more home studio friendly video along the lines of this one. You know, ADAM A7X, EVE Audio SC207, Neumann KH-120, Dynaudio LYD-7, Yamaha MSP-7, that sort of stuff. I would be delighted to hear your opinion on those!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve! That is exactly the information I'm trying find out! You hit the nail firmly on the head! There are many incredible options and I want to know what is the best option for a given situation! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@studiolinnunrataa2621 3 жыл бұрын

These are so out of my price range, but this is still fascinating. What amazes me is, that you can really hear differences, even though its through the lavalier and that handheld mic, through youtube whatever codec and compression and with speakers that only go as low as 60 something Hz (Genelec 8020).

@Daniel-sYouTube 9 ай бұрын

Yeah exactly, you can even hear a difference on my phone 😄

@thedirtep9500 6 жыл бұрын

that handheld mic is crazy with that hum.. love the review though

@qazwert007 7 жыл бұрын

Great video Warren. Love your application specific approach to choosing a monitor. Been using the ATC 25As for a couple of years. Replaced Genelec 1031A which I love but the ATCs are really a joy day in and out. I will never forget listening to something off KZfaq through the 25As for the first time and going, "yeah, this is what a data compression audio codec sounds like...." Quite eye opening but it's surprising to see how quickly your hearing adapts to the quirks of a new speaker as KZfaq sound doesn't really bother me anymore these days. A point that wasn't brought up (understandably due to time) was that some monitors you auditioned employ DSP and have digital inputs and other don't and what this might do in terms of sound and application. Also I saw a ATC 45A in the background that wasn't part of the test. Was that considered out of the price range? It would have been interesting for you to comment on the ATC tweeter. Cheers!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Stefan, I agree 100%! I have had that experience, playing KZfaq videos back can be quite soul destroying! Haha I will ask Alex about the ATC. I know Alex mentioned DSP a few times, some people have mentioned here, but I agree there may be more instances he could have mentioned it. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@MarlonGibbons 7 жыл бұрын

As always, great video, Warren. Just my opinion, but without decent monitors (subjective, based on budget and application), it's very hard to leverage the money put into all the expensive gear that precedes them, in the chain. Currently in search of new monitors.. so thanks for the valuable info.

@sebastianciho 6 жыл бұрын

For a recording channel.... you guys should check your cables.. and just saying... get some decent signal for interviews... just get to rode smart lav+ and 2 phones... the audio from Alex sounds like... **** (replace **** with unpleased word of choice) Other than this.. this just cleared my head going for a pair of Barefoot Micromain 35 for my small room. All the best to you, Warren and the guys out there, from Transylvania (the real one..), Ro!

@hukl3945 7 жыл бұрын

Could you do a more budget shootout? In a range from KRKs, to Adams to Neumann KH 120 maybe? I'm currently looking into the KH 120s but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts about them

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi John-Paul! Definitely I really want to do that! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@khronscave 7 жыл бұрын

40:30 Some inaccuracy again - passive radiators are basically like ported speaker enclosures, aka. "bass-reflex" enclosures. Only instead of the volume of the air resonating inside the port, it's virtually a dummy speaker cone (which has a mass and a certain springiness of the suspension, which gives it a certain resonant frequency). Passive radiators are used when the length and/or volume of a port inside the box is unfeasible, or would mean the enclosure ends up unreasonably large.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks KhronX! I appreciate the insight and additional knowledge! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@khronscave 7 жыл бұрын

I just remembered - it's actually the exact same principle that tuned bass traps work on. Both those, and ported speakers are known as Helmholtz resonators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_resonance#Applications

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi KhronX, great stuff! Thanks for all of this insight! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@67Stu 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Warren! This was a great idea! Alex is a super nice guy. I actually met him a few times. Perhaps you would consider doing a video demonstrating how to properly use Mixcubes (Auratones, Avantones, Pyramids, etc.). Yes, it would probably be a bit difficult to get the gist of things through computer monitors, but in my opinion, this is an area of much confusion among mixers. Thanks! Stu

@marktlog 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great explanation of tracking versus mixing Warren. That for mixing you're taking frequencies out from various full sounding tracks, so that they will fit together into earbuds. That's the art to it.

@lyncboy 7 жыл бұрын

Warren, you are doing us a tremendous service with your video's & audio engineering knowledge !!!! thanks from the worldwide audio community !!!!

@gavinlamp Жыл бұрын

as someone who studied physics to be an acoustician for my choice career. Its really cool to see some tricks used to neutralize pressure in a large space used inside of a speaker cabinet. Love science.

@RabiBenLavi 7 жыл бұрын

Near fields drive me crazy with speaker placement and seating. I made my own single full range driver monitors with phase plugs so they sound the same anywhere. Just a pair of Dayton rs 100 reference drivers, a bit of plywood and glue. For my live mobile thing, I modded...well heavely moddeded...lol.. some cheap Yamaha NX 50 computer speakers. I must be more used to live mixing than studio. For checking the final drums with the song, I got big old EV 1502 horns....lol. The Focal Alpha 50's wound up in my reverb chamber.

@RetroElectroville 5 жыл бұрын

Even if I don't agree on every mixing opinion here, I would have to agree about Woman in Chains. Simply one of the purest mixes around with amazing depth and atmosphere....and he mixed it in one day! Folks, we had the tools needed to create a great mix before 1990 hit. Great video here though!

@faithhopelove6945 Жыл бұрын

I ve learned so many Things in the past 30 Years and must say for me the best Studio Speakers are als the most musical Speakers at the same Time. Brands like Dynaudio, ADAM, Genelec, Neumann are not in my Pool anymore cause they Lack of Musicality. Depth, Seperation, Stage, Microdetails and ! Dynamic are the Points really count. For me PMC are the best Choice and i couldnt be more happy...(":

@Producelikeapro Жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much for sharing!

@davidmood5161 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Warren, even though most of your viewers probably won't be able to afford any of those speakers any time soon (including me), that was still a very good video with a lot of interesting points. Many thanks for making this cool comparison. The Focals are 8 grand in the US? Here in Europe they are "only" 5 grand per pair. What a huge difference. The Focals have a special feature: you can turn them into 2 way-speakers, by turning the woofer off, and so concentrate on the mid-range and the high-end, without any overwhelming low-end. Then you can switch the woofer back on, and listen to the final mix on full range. Where you able to try this out, Warren? Many thanks, David

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi David, thanks very much my friend! I appreciate all of your insight!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@imaginarytube 7 жыл бұрын

There is no perfect monitor as there are too many variables. The solution is to learn and understand your speakers and room.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi imaginary tube, I agree 100%! Excellent point! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@Matthew-ez4ze 4 жыл бұрын

Vintage King on Sunset is really nice and accommodating for checking out monitors. They have a smart CD collection to choose from for listening.

@kesamek8537 4 жыл бұрын

Those ATCs are so good.

@DJURBANBG 4 жыл бұрын

you cant understand that by watching this video

@Acoustic_Theory 6 жыл бұрын

In a side firing woofer system, you set the crossover frequency lower than you might in a typical three-way speaker, somewhere between 100 and 200 Hz, which is more like how you'd cross over a subwoofer than a woofer. At those low frequencies, the speaker is substantially omnidirectional, in that there is a small amount of directional characteristic but there is less than 3 dB (and ideally a lot less than that, although it depends on crossover frequency and becomes more omnidirectional at lower frequency) of variation between energy coming off the front of the speaker and energy that wraps around the sides of the speaker and heads toward the back. The wavelengths are so long that small obstacles such as another speaker, or even your body, produces almost no reflection because the pressure wraps around you rather than reflecting. You can be a 400lbs fat person and the wavelengths are still so long that they will wrap around your body and the person standing behind you (or behind the widest part of your mid-section) will still hear the same amount of bass. If you set up another wall, however, that would be several feet wide, and that will start to affect things. So the Barefoot design may look a little counterintuitive, but it's a concept that can work perfectly, as long as care is taken in setting the crossover frequency so it is not too high.

@torindavies1176 7 жыл бұрын

Yes! Another shootout, Thanks again Warren :D

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much Tiege that's extremely kind of you! I know these are all very high end, however it's good to have a conversation about them and see where the technology is going! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@torindavies1176 7 жыл бұрын

+Produce Like A Pro agreed, and although I might not be able to afford them, studios I might work In could have them :)

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

HI Tiege, that's an extremely important point my friend! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@HiredGoonage 6 жыл бұрын

This is a great video. The take home is, no matter what, you have to learn the monitors and reference.

@amdenis 3 жыл бұрын

We have several near, 2 mid-field’s and a few far listening studio options, but have never stayed with any of the Barefoot’s we’ve eval’d. I have always found the high frequencies of the Barefoot’s shrill and fatiguing. While like the NS’s it can help reveal issues, but each of us had to take much more often breaks and Marina started to get headaches after a few hours of mastering each day. We only eval’d two of the MicroMain’s and two of the Mini’s. I hear that the Master Stack’s as mid to far-field’s do not have as much of this problem. One of our musician’s who used to engineer, is in his 60’s did not have this issue with the Barefoot’s; so, likely it is how they design and drive their HF sections. None of us had this issue with the Adam’s, Focal’s, PMC’s we use.

@tracyeaves4847 6 ай бұрын

Sealed enclosures restrict the propagation of the bass wave form, so the Bearfoots would sound tighter in the bass range, because the wave form is restricted.

@f.troiani5937 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex and Warren. Fell in love with the Bare "Feet"!!!

@f.troiani5937 6 жыл бұрын

sorry the 35's in particular.

@bluematrix5001 5 жыл бұрын

They needed to show you the aMazing Genelec 8351a because in a is a one of a kind speaker

@stevenswall 5 жыл бұрын

I would love to compare that to their older 8260... The latter of which actually has bass extension.

@jonathancampbell6686 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Warren and Alex. Great video. Wish we had a vintage king in the uk!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Jonathan, glad you enjoyed the video! Yes VK are really great! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@sounddesignmix3002 7 жыл бұрын

Great video with tons of useful information. Loved Alex's input and whole approach. I can't wait for you to do a second version with a +/- $1000 studio monitors version.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Sound Design & Mix, absolutely! I completely agree! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@collectives9043 7 жыл бұрын

Love seeing the high end demo stuff, looking forward to the mid-lower end! (amphion *cough*)

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Sam, thanks for your great comment! Yes, the Amphion's are very popular! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@PaulViguier 7 жыл бұрын

As usual, a ton of VERY interesting comments all along this video... As I'll probably buy a pair of these 4K-6K active speakers this year, this test (with the Focal SM9, which are cheaper here in France) is VERY interesting. There is a new french brand here ( called Prosodia ) which have a lot of success in a lot of high end control room ( private from local stars or in big TV )... I hope you'll have other videos like this one Warren, GREAT job !!!!!!! Paul Viguier

@gxl008 6 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised and disappointed that you guys have not included in this category the incredible Neumann KH 310A monitors. Maybe in a follow up review?

@morespinach9832 3 жыл бұрын

Or any of the really big ones. Genelec 8351B... HEDD Type 20... PSI 23M...

@themastroiannis 6 жыл бұрын

awesome!! but what a pity you did not include Neumann KH 310 with these other "beasts". I believe Neumann KH 310 would have been a mighty contender...

@jan-paulmosterdijk9710 5 жыл бұрын

love the chemistry between you 2!

@revelationsoundstudio 6 ай бұрын

He liked the ATC's the best. That's all I needed to know.

@noisesoundtonevibe 7 жыл бұрын

This is really good, I'm enjoying those VK videos. It'd be interesting to hear those Ocean Way HR4s as well. Thanks Warren and VK!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much noisesoundtonevibe! I agree! I love being able to go to Vintage King and pick their brains!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@onclemack7602 7 жыл бұрын

I'm in the market for a new pair of monitors as well. My list includes: Genelec 8260, Guzauski-Swist GS-3A and the Barefoot MM26. I've been saving a couple of years and working my butt off to get something that will last me for years to come. Thanks for the info and video.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Oncle Mack, I am very glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@ericebjjones1363 6 жыл бұрын

You're doing a awesome job I really enjoy the info you have to share. I'm currently doing mixing on my own and the info I've seen is making my songs sound better. Thank you and keep up the great work

@MartinGod3992 5 жыл бұрын

just adding my 2 cents, a boundary corner in a room is actually +18dB not 9. It's 6dB per every wall pair so ceiling to floor, left to right, right to left.

@felipehenaovideo 6 жыл бұрын

Glad I found this channel

@Producelikeapro 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much Felipe! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@louderthangod 7 жыл бұрын

I've watched this twice....love the VK series. I'd really like to see a mid-level (maybe $1-5k) version of this.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks louderthangod! I'm extremely glad you enjoyed the video! I had fun making it and was very excited to be able to hear all of these speakers in one place! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@marvomusic 7 жыл бұрын

I'm also curious what you think Warren about the Genelec 8351? Heard some people say they're the best monitos they ever heard (so that would beat Barefoots and Focal SM9 too), even if they're in the 6k-7k price range.

@allstopblue5717 7 жыл бұрын

Oh man I had a Vedera album about 7-10 years ago maybe. Can't remember the name but it may have been this one. I loved it at the time. I'll have to dig it out of my cd pile now!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Rob, yes that was the one! Haha I had a great time making that Album! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@HardRocker47 7 жыл бұрын

It's the album "Stages". The song is "Satisfy"

@JarnwidOfficial 5 жыл бұрын

I've recently built my own active 3way roughly to KH o300 spec. It's easier to DIY a very high end speaker today than most people would assume, i may be doing a video on them if people are interested here.

@leomignonneau1765 4 жыл бұрын

Yes please!

@Jahk-mode876 4 жыл бұрын

You should I subed

@gigngamer 7 жыл бұрын

The barefoot sound WAAAAAAY clearer than PMC (trough the mic) it"s incredible

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Julien, both sound amazing! Very impressed! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@g.m.3979 6 жыл бұрын

nonsense

@g.m.3979 6 жыл бұрын

nonsens julien,through your desktop speakers?

@deejaymip 4 жыл бұрын

Warren, I think ATCs sound pleasant because they spread energy in the room equally spectrum-wise, so the time alignment of reflections coming back is homogenous. I think it is good to have this kind of monitors in the studio + a pairs of monitors which are more surgical and directional on the mid and high, such as Adam

@JulianFernandez 7 жыл бұрын

Alex is the man. Definitely stopping by VK next time in LA...

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! I agree, Alex is fantastic! Vintage King have been very generous letting us come by and film there! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@PalkoChris 3 жыл бұрын

You two work VERY well w/ one another. Respect! 💪

@pioferro 5 жыл бұрын

Missing some great monitors from Genelec, JBL Pro, Neumann, Adam and Dynaudio. Would've loved to have seen them included here.

@HollerAtcherBoi 4 жыл бұрын

Pio Ferro those are all a step or two below these. Not on the same level. Maybe Genelec and Adam if it’s their most expensive models.

@pioferro 2 жыл бұрын

@@HollerAtcherBoi After so many years, re-watched this, noticed Warren upgraded his monitors to Genelec not long ago.. still feel Genys, Neumann and JBL Pro 7 Series beat many of these out. Just my opinion.

@firecattor 7 жыл бұрын

Wish I could afford a pair of high end monitors.. I'm currently "breakin all the rules" and usikng a pair of kef q700 hi-fi speakers running thru an 2 * 120 8 ohm class A amp, with the preamp desingaged for mixing. Just love the clearaty and the 2*2 meter sweetspot of the uni-q drivers. A bad production shines right thru so I guess I have to spend some cash getting a setup that matches... Always mute before doing somthing drastic tho.. Cant wait for the shootout of some more budget monitors:) Keep up the good work:)

@joeyannece6197 3 жыл бұрын

Are NS10's the only speakers where it's okay to say they suck?

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Haha good question!

@DJURBANBG 4 жыл бұрын

is barefoot 01 the new 35 ?

@mawkcimino 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video. Tons of info. The constant buzzing is very annoying. Was this going on in the room?

@yippie6862 6 жыл бұрын

1985 called and they want their upturned shirt collar and Duran Duran hair style back.

@Producelikeapro 6 жыл бұрын

Haha too funny Yippie!

@raydetone 4 жыл бұрын

After comparing the Barefoot MM35 to the MM45 you never really gave a difference but went on to talk about the ATCs (aprox 35:00). I'd love to be able to hear or know more about the difference of the 2 Barefoot designs. Anything from memory? ( 3 years ago)

@jessebillson 3 жыл бұрын

I think he may have been confused as to which pair he was listening to, and accidentally talked about the ATC when he meant to talk about the MM45. I'm buying a set of MM45 tomorrow and I was confused by this video and it's lack of MM45 talk, but after your timestamp, and revisiting the video, I really think that this was a mistake on Warren's part. Very cool video otherwise. I've watched it a few times.

@miglioriamiciandco 3 жыл бұрын

@@jessebillson I wound up getting the Neumann KH310s and they've helped in elevating my mixes. They are sealed 3-ways w a ton of bottom w/o my sub on & in a sealed enclosure. With the help of Mogami I changed the cables feeding them and w some placement adjustment and after a few months of getting adjusted I am able to run them flat...so pretty happy. Just worked with Barefoot MicroMain27 gen2, although in a much larger control room ..but while very accurate , I didn't love them. just my 2 cents :-)

@sirkristoferTV 7 жыл бұрын

I use a pair of KRK Rocket 5's 'cos it's what I can affford. They're good but very pointy. You move even slightly out of the listening sweet spot and you lose the high end.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Sirkristofer, I understand! If you can make great music on them that's all that matters! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@lextr3110 6 жыл бұрын

they suck forget it

@TheWorldTeacher 6 жыл бұрын

I own a pair of the Rokit 6's but have replaced them with superior-quality Neumann monitors.

@cpk313 6 жыл бұрын

Nice Collar!! ok my 80's flashback is over...@ 31:28 the ATC is $8995, at 31:53 it's $7995 maybe by the end of the video I can afford them! ATC has a distinct advantage over most other manufacturers as the make their own drivers. This allows them much more control and to be able to match their driver to a much higher standard w/o taking such a big financial hit. John Dunlavy would reject upwards of 80% of drivers because they didn't fit his requirements. The other option and less optimal is to tweak each speaker's crossover by hand individually to match a reference speaker. Either way kids, 'Don't blow a driver, you replacement won't be exactly like and sometimes not even close to what blew.' Also that midrange dome on the ATC is pretty legendary, used on the Proac Ref IV's, it's one of the best drivers ever made, ever! Okay kid's back to debauchery.

@kingtubbyleeperry 2 жыл бұрын

Focal also makes their own drivers

@marvomusic 7 жыл бұрын

I wish I hear a conclusion between which of MM35 or MM45 are "better" (even if the price says it's the 35's)

@BV_Beve 7 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff as always Warren, thoroughly enjoyed it. Focul SM9 seemed to be the one's you would gravitate to if you had to choose from only these monitors. Just saying that was so, what kind of monitors would you have alongside the Focul's (or your Genelecs) to give you the basic sound that many people out in the world would be listening to 'the car stereo' or phone and ear buds?

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi bvninja, that's a tough call. Looking back on it I felt like I would want to try 3 pairs out in my room and see which ones responded best in the room. If I was to spend 6k plus then it would have to be perfect for my current mix room! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@jax8714 6 жыл бұрын

This was a highly informative and amazing video series but please revisit them with different source materials, especially ones with more sub and low end information like hip hop and electronic music. Cheers !!

@JustinLoving 7 жыл бұрын

Great talk guys! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Justin! I really appreciate it! Glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren

@FromAshToPhoenix 7 жыл бұрын

So first things first as a passionated musician myself, you warren helps me out a lot when it comes to collect expirance about mixing and hard/software to mix or to get an Idea of the spectrum that exists to creat music. Thank you again for that. Secondly I want to write a short article about you and your work in producing and mixing and will give you a shout out via twitter and G+. The finished article will be up on my G+ page. I will inform you about it than. Best wishes - Dante Rox

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi FromAshToPhoenix, I am so glad to be able to help! Please feel free to hit me up. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@persianchris2451 7 жыл бұрын

I almost put EQ on this vid to get rid of some of that buzzing! Still liked your vid and I am def not ready for 10 grand speakers, perhaps the future lol.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, thanks for the kind comment! Yes the 6-9k range is the upper end of the powered monitor range, I wanted to be able to showcase many different speakers etc. Unfortunately we had a little issue with the audio from one of the mics, technical problems aside I still hope you were able to learn something useful? Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@persianchris2451 7 жыл бұрын

Produce Like A Pro definitely, and you made great points about the side lows ideally being perfect, but would require a perfect room with nothing close to it to interrupt. My question to you is at that distance of testing your content with the speakers, can you guesstimate how many dB you were listening at?

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, great question my friend! I was guessing around 85-90db maximum, we were at a relatively low volume because I wanted as much balance as possible. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@DJ_PROMO_PR 7 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video. Great interaction and exchange of audio knowledge. But that's nothing new on this channel.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jose! I really appreciate your kind words! I'm so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@MyFatherLoves 11 ай бұрын

A pretty simple gate have fixed the super annoying phase issues present when popped-collar (don't remember his name) starts using a handheld. Couldn't make it that far into the video because of it.

@mrlargo7067 3 жыл бұрын

2020 Buy some Hedd monitors and you will have monitors soundning amazing and translating very good

@danielhodges2805 7 жыл бұрын

Something I find really interesting - Out of probably 100 or so audio engineers I that I have worked closely with, I don't know a single one who is comfortable designing speakers. Probably 95 or those 100 seem comfortable with there own home brewed solutions to setting up a room to deal with acoustics. Acoustics are a MASSIVE part of speaker design. The two seem to be more related that people want to admit. But it seems like we're coaching people to throw bass traps in the corners and spend 7k on monitors, rather than spending even a thousand dollars on a seasoned acoustic design professional, 1k on treatment and the remaining for speakers. Whats up with that? I guess you can't sell an acoustic professional the way you can a pair of speakers, or some foam?

@CorneilleAbigenga 3 жыл бұрын

Waited to hear the sound of the Barefoot Towers in the background

@scrapethebottom 2 жыл бұрын

for anyone interested, two 7inch speakers have the same surface of a single 10inch one :)

@Producelikeapro 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much for sharing

@kevbelanger1179 7 жыл бұрын

Special thank for this video, Warren! I'm in the market and this info is fantastic.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Kev, Thank you ever so much for your extremely kind words! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@moz7130 7 жыл бұрын

Warren You Are Great My Friend!! Thanx Very Much!!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much MozTV! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@laddiemusic 7 жыл бұрын

Lots of buzzing on your camera audio....

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Prahlad, yes, unfortunately one of the mics went down! So we had to use a hand held with all of it's issues! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@terrymac9570 4 жыл бұрын

Pro audio yet can’t get half decent audio on this video,...okayeeeee then

@sadsnakes 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Warren, you have a video that shouldn't be there in your mixing playlist. Thanks for the great videos!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks! That was my kids using my phone to watch KZfaq! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@snapascrew 4 жыл бұрын

If you do something like this in the future can i suggest a pair of omnidirectional condensers in a spaced pair configuration for when you play the sound of the speakers? Something like a couple cheap DBX RTA-M would work great.

@northof50now 7 жыл бұрын

The crossover point of the MM35 seem high for off-axis woofers. Can't imagine them not being affected by equipment placed adjacent to them. Do you know if the woofers are wired in or out of phase to each other? I know Ken Kreisel's subs uses 2 drivers; 1 firing into the cab, the other out. Not familiar with 2 outward drivers. Thanks for the vid. With all the respect in the world, pricing for monitors seems...high.

@khronscave 7 жыл бұрын

They MUST be in phase, otherwise you won't hear any bass - the distance between the two woofers (on the outside) is what, a couple feet? Look up some frequency-to-wavelength conversions :P

@northof50now 7 жыл бұрын

In two separate cabs, that would be the case. With dual drivers in a single box, it is common to have one driver moving towards the magnet, while the other is moving away. It is known as "push/pull." Because 1 driver is facing inside the box, both cones are moving outside the box at the same time-- but they are out of phase to one another. It produces more bass. Just wondering how it would work with both drivers facing outward.

@khronscave 7 жыл бұрын

In the "push-pull" thing with one driver inverted (ie. magnet outside), the two drivers are indeed wired in opposite phase, but that's only due to the mounting direction - both cones move the same way, relative to the box and each other (towards / away from). In this case, i think it's called "push-push", and the drivers are most definitely wired in phase, to achieve the same goal - cones moving the same direction, relative to the box (outwards / inwards). The push-pull with one driver inverted is meant to compensate for asymmetries due to imperfections and tolerances of the speakers, so you get the "same" sort of sound all the time - when one cone goes outwards, the other one goes towards the magnet (which is outside).

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi northof50now, thanks for your fantastic comment! Agreed, these are the higher end Powered Monitors, it was great to have Alex take us through these Speakers! I have asked Alex to get involved in the commentary! I think that would be extremely useful!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@northof50now 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's how I understand it. I just thought, for $7k, there was a new design :-)

@LesonDeson 7 жыл бұрын

Alex explanations are very good!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much IIan!! Agreed! I appreciate Alex's time and expertise! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@murraywebster1228 3 жыл бұрын

ATC monitor with PMC transmission line......now that would be something...

@MrPAULYPOOH 4 жыл бұрын

I like the guy asking asking questions 🤣👌

@Sylvain_de_Boscherville 3 ай бұрын

Hello, what a shame that there are no subtitles available !

@JulianFernandez 7 жыл бұрын

Warren, would you do a vid talking about choosing reference songs? I know it sounds pretty basic, but would be nice to hear what are you listening for when using a reference song... How to quickly learn a new control room based on how you listen to familiar stuff, etc... Thanks!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Julian, wow that is an amazingly good idea! Thanks very much for your insight! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@JulianFernandez 7 жыл бұрын

Sure man! Would love to hear you thoughts on that... Thanks! :D

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Julian, definitely! Thanks for the idea! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@hanneshampel3303 7 жыл бұрын

Wtf how cool is this I was hopin to see sth like that - Warren you are a badass dude, thanks so much for your great content!!

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Hannes, thanks ever so much! I am so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@L.Scott_Music 7 жыл бұрын

Love this stuff. I really have to get there. Maybe in February after NAMM.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Loren! You Rock! Yes, after NAMM! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@jimmygigga6819 7 жыл бұрын

the dual clip-mic super-phaser technique

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Haha yes indeed Jimmy! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@ddostesting 7 жыл бұрын

re: Barefoot Hmm. Bass volume is dependent on the volume of air moved. I don't think that the sub-sub-millimeter amount that a regular woofer pushes a cabinet back causes much of a loss of volume. I think it's more dispersion and DSP related.

@Producelikeapro 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, thanks ever so much for your insight! I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

@nickwallette6201 7 жыл бұрын

Paul Sop Totally. It's more about cabinet resonances. Opposing woofers couple vibrations to the cabinet in equal but opposite amounts, which ideally cancels it out. The speaker cone should move, the speaker cabinet should be completely inert. Usual alternative is to build the cabinet as rigid and massive as possible to move the resonance down low where it's less offensive.