Stump Extraction using Harbor Freight Winch, Snatch Block, and Jeep.

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3 жыл бұрын

Force multiplication and a fulcrum are the key to pulling a stump with its root system.
In this vid I'm using a Harbor Freight 9k winch I've had for several years, two snatch blocks, Apex wireless control, and my 1997 Jeep TJ.

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@jonmueller2117 2 жыл бұрын

Another safety tip.. throw a blanket onto the cables to reduce whiplash if something breaks loose.

@kendallkilgore7799 2 жыл бұрын

That wheel is called a "mechanical advantage" and using that blanket or coat or whatever we called a dead drop.

@davethompson3252 10 ай бұрын

Getting a hose and soaking the soil first really helps.

@freeidaho-videos 2 жыл бұрын

Count the lines supporting the load, that number is your multiplier. In this case 3x. Put floormats, a tarp, or something on those lines to prevent whip if it breaks. You can see in the video that the flat tire has left you with nearly a flat pull, exactly what you were trying to avoid.

@garyjubar5733 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip about a tarp in case a line breaks. I left my stumps about 4ft tall for better leverage. We'll see what happens.

@charliebecker2216 2 жыл бұрын

Great video with specs on harbor freight items along with the tire and how it works . Nice to see it all work.

@joelalleman9591 2 жыл бұрын

very impressive job !!! My old supervisor where I worked grew up on a large farm in west virginia and he told me when he was a kid his father and brothers cleared all the woodlands that they turned into farmland with a team of horses and block and tackle !!!!!!

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people don't know what block and tackle really is. I recall my father using it when I was young. Friction loss is higher using block and tackle but it serves its purpose in its day.

@gerryvolpone6466 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see someone using thier head with rigging. I've pulled many a tree out, Usually cheat and use 1 of our many tow trucks to do it, but have used my pick ups and broncos to winch them out to. Good job!

@sh839c 2 жыл бұрын

Put a jacket or blanket over the cable always when doing this. Can't believe how many people don't do this. Enjoyed the video.

@davedegan12 2 жыл бұрын

I got an old 1951 willys truck with a pto winch. I always wandered how the frame was cracked. Now I know. Lol

@haroldcotten1840 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, and Harbor Freight wench work great

@doublebabies. 2 жыл бұрын

Great successful test.

@edic2619 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you.

@firstmkb Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing this!

@hj8607 Жыл бұрын

In this configuration you have THREE variable lengths rope lines. This means that for every three ft of cable you winch-in the stump only moves one ft . 3:1 advantage so your pull power is THREE times the winch power . 3 x 9,000 = 27,000 , doubling it would have been 18,000. Your estimate was correct. Nice use of pulley !

@wdgaylord Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the view and comment.

@LOCALOUTLAW1 Жыл бұрын

Nice job and setup Gaylord!

@jasonh4167 Жыл бұрын

A quick note 9,000 lbs from winch is acheved on the tast wrap of the winch drum only, and there is 2-5% loss in power due to friction around the pulleys so realisticly 26,500 lbs is more accurate. But good pull! ✌

@abelvillarreal6488 Жыл бұрын

Very impressive.

@wdgaylord Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

@rjensen6368 2 ай бұрын

Been there, done that. Easiest way I've found. Nice video

@wdgaylord 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment

@millardscott5646 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful and informative video . I like the fact that you are using the remote control for safety. Better safe than sorry...

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

@theplinkerslodge6361 2 жыл бұрын

I agree - the use of winches scares me, to be honest. The snapping line can be destructive and easily deadly. I have been searching for ways to attenuate the line speed when it snaps, but the vis I have seen show there is massive carnage at the car end of the line - smashing through the grill or windshield. Surprised there aren't more vids that show ways of dampening the snapping line.

@justincase9463 Жыл бұрын

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@garyjubar5733 Жыл бұрын

I have some stumps to pull also, but using a hand winch with a similar setup. I like the idea of a mat or tarp in case the line breaks.

@wdgaylord Жыл бұрын

That is a good practice. I didn’t because I had the trees between me and the winch line.

@cessnaflyer 2 жыл бұрын

good job!

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@solohoh Жыл бұрын

Well done

@wdgaylord Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@jamesmckay9966 2 жыл бұрын

Your mechanical advantage is 3. One pulley gives you an advantage of 2. Thats called a Par buckle.

@georgevossen3846 2 жыл бұрын

Great video a stump grinder works well with that Deere tractor to

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but not nearly as exciting.

@yitliu1075 2 жыл бұрын

Good job. Bro

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@theplinkerslodge6361 2 жыл бұрын

Well, different trees have different resistance to getting pulled. I think of cedar as pretty gritty wood would to begin with, do cedars offer more resistance. I.e. do we need to take type of tree into consideration with difficulty of the job? A little factoid - tamarack roots-to-trunk section of the tree were very valuable in shipbuilding, used to join the stem to the keel and as ships' knees - supporting the deck from the ships' frame. If you think this way you may make something useful from these stumps you now have. Or decorative, at least.

@johnr5545 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job god bless

@terryherrera5252 Жыл бұрын

U da MAN !!!🎃

@victoryvisiontour 2 жыл бұрын

Use a rim without the tire. Holds rope/chains in nicely and won't fall over. Also reduces spring-back of components if something breaks.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

That's good council. The day I pulled these stumps, I didn't have a naked rim laying about. A rear tracker rim works best.

@chrisw5742 2 жыл бұрын

An A frame made of timbers works even better.

@alfredosalgado4174 3 жыл бұрын

Save your time... go to the tire pull @ 2:35. You're welcome!

@Myselfnyou 2 жыл бұрын

"may have an LJ at the end" 🤣

@chrisemerson7743 2 жыл бұрын

Yea that last one just didn’t want to come up. Like he had grown roots or something! I don’t know that Iv seen a tire on a wheel dent in like that. Iv pulled a few things up using the same set-up. I was extremely surprised the first time I pulled up a stump. But it does get a little hairy when the wheel won’t act right! Even launched one 8ft in the air and 30ft away. I started tying it off after that! lol enjoyed ur video.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea. I’ll put a chain through the wheel next time.

@mlee81 Жыл бұрын

Seems like an awful lot of stress forces to the jeep. Also it seems adding a couple extra cheap snatch blocks would help prevent wear to both the wrench and the jeep

@gregr1672 2 жыл бұрын

Read your specs on the duty cycle of your winch .I believe it is 45 seconds max run time with a 20 minute rest period required ! I have a 12 k lb Badland and it shut off continuously When pulling .You would have to stand there waiting on the breaker to reset . I replaced it with a good breaker from a utility truck supply .No problem since . PS ,I wouldn't pull too hard with your Jeep! Look how lightweight your frame is built ,you dont want to do serious damage .Its not like the full frame Jeeps of old .Good Video ,like the tire method m

@bhstor0 Жыл бұрын

I'd have to disagree with you. It's attached back to the stump so it's doubling the force.

@carld3184 2 жыл бұрын

Since you don't want to make an LJ this way.... With 20/20 hindsight instead of attaching the single snatblock to the Jeep bumper I would have attached it to the same chain that was secured to the tree behind the Jeep. We don't have a super-strong soft strap so we cut a piece from an old tire to avoid cutting into the bark.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Good thoughts and perfect vision.

@golftownpro999 5 ай бұрын

The final boss

@wdgaylord 5 ай бұрын

For sure.

@tomrobertson3236 2 жыл бұрын

The tire is a a lever . The height minus the distance from the stump . About a force multiplier of 2

@chrisemerson7743 2 жыл бұрын

And he still caught he’ll trying to get it out! It’s a great idea and definitely works. Obviously some stumps are easier than others! Lol

@johndillian1018 2 жыл бұрын

I liked the LJ joke, lol.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

I think you are the first to comment on it. Glad you appreciated it.

@FeguerFineArt 2 жыл бұрын

I might have an LJ when I'm done, to funny. I have some stumps to pull but I have a short box Silverado and don't want a long box so I'll just hook to a big tree. lol

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

You are the first to comment on “… might have an LJ …”

@PrabeeshKammana 2 жыл бұрын

Your 81th subscriber

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for joining. I plan to get some more content up soon.

@msnpassjan2004 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Andrew Camarata usually uses a mini excavator to push the whole tree over (small trees). Like your setup but wonder what are your thoughts on using a mini excavator ?

@wdgaylord 3 жыл бұрын

Using a small excavator or a backhoe is a good option. I don’t have either. I’d love to have a small excavator but I don’t think I can steal enough grocery money from momma-bear to get one.

@msnpassjan2004 3 жыл бұрын

@@wdgaylord LOL so true, momma-bear always comes first !

@Nick9Three 3 жыл бұрын

Dropping knowledge! Backwoods science 101

@wdgaylord 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick.

@drearphones 2 жыл бұрын

Are your headlights DOT-compliant? I hope you are among the smarter ones!

@jayward2662 2 жыл бұрын

Stationary blocks have no mechanical advantages only blocks that travel will you gain advantage. Please don't take my comment as being negative. Any who if memory serves me correctly you will gain advantage up to 32 parts of line after which you will loose advantage due to friction and such. Thank you kindly for the content.

@twistnshout3031 2 жыл бұрын

Damn that is nerve-wracking to watch! Pretty smart though. In a world where osha doesn't exist. Lol

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Yes you are correct. I'd shut them down it they tried this on one of our job sites. I felt pretty protected though with the trees between me and the event.

@scottnichols9020 2 жыл бұрын

When most people winch out a tree stump they normally don’t put a car tire under the snatch block because what can happen is that if that tire came loose it could do some damage to someone or something

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

When some people … Making a lateral pull against a tree stump is in a direction that GOD designed the tree to be protected against. That’s why the root system spreads outward. Pulling laterally reduces the size of stump one can pull. Adding a tire dates back to a time before winches were commonplace. When I were a youngster, farmers would use an old tractor rim with a chain run over it and connected to the tractor. This allows the stump to be pulled vertically; a direction of force that only occurs in nature during a tornado.

@morganyoung8272 2 жыл бұрын

Ur just straight wrong lol it would be better if he took one block to a tree then to the stump over the tire but I’ve seen countless people pull out stumps like that

@MikeOrazzi 2 жыл бұрын

I have to try this method. Using the backhoe is no fun at all. Some pull out fine if you leave them high, others not so much.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

This method does have opportunities for excitement. Just be safe.

@a.waynecurtis2688 Жыл бұрын

Do you think two 18wheeler tires bolted together would stay up right better?

@wdgaylord Жыл бұрын

They would initially but once the line is loaded, if the wheels are not inline with the pull, it would pull them sideways as well. And, it would be heavy, so heavy. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

@GunnyNinja 3 жыл бұрын

A larger diameter wheel would be perfect for this. 22.5 rim form a big truck, no tire.

@wdgaylord 3 жыл бұрын

In deed. The bigger the better. An old tractor wheel would be great.

@djkommando 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing.

@BrianHoard 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking

@wilburpost7977 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, and have it sitting on a piece of plywood, etc. so that it doesn't sink into the ground.

@sholland42 2 жыл бұрын

Much easier to get the stump out with the tree still attached, leverage.

@kennycurran6938 2 жыл бұрын

at 5:32 notice the chain and the 3:1 pulley system is straight. The wheel is not serving any purpose at that point. This is when you are actually starting to remove the stump because now you are pulling it in shear instead of a upward force of tension. I think the tire is a myth and is actually creating just a change of direction and actually in the way. Am I missing something and maybe I'm totally wrong here? It seems to me that when you pull upward, you are pulling against ALL of the roots. Pull in shear and you are just pulling against just ONE side of the roots.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Because I wasn't willing to be close enough to get hurt if things went sideways, it may be misleading. This technique does work. GOD built the tree to withstand lateral loads (wind) but not so much for vertical load.

@student6045 2 жыл бұрын

If you would have removed the tire and used two pulleys at the stump instead of at the Jeep that stump would have come out allot easier. It is all in the setup.

@strykerv1620 11 ай бұрын

your jeep bumper is rated for all that? my trucks grill guard says 16500 lbs straight line pull... you have yours at 27k roughly

@wdgaylord 11 ай бұрын

The bumper is “Hooke Road Offroad Mid Width Front Bumper w/Winch Plate”. The text in the description says The bumper has a built-in winch plate for up to 12,000 lbs. High strength D-Ring mounts and 9,500-pound-rated D-Rings included.” The bumper “rated” but it has stress tested on a few stumps. I’ve since upgraded to the HF 12,000 lb winch with synthetic line. I think Hooke can upgrade their capacity statement.

@wdgaylord 11 ай бұрын

I do appreciate your observation. I hadn’t even looked at a stated limit on the bumper.

@strykerv1620 11 ай бұрын

@@wdgaylord yea would have sucked if you winched rip your vehicle apart

@theWZZA 2 жыл бұрын

If the chain lets go under tension then it fires into the front of your jeep? Folks put a weighted blanket to prevent such a thing from happening.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

I have one now. Hadn't invested in one yet when I made the vid. Thanks for the comment.

@robertmarshall6508 2 жыл бұрын

You must like tearing up stuff

@countrycat2008 Жыл бұрын

I’d be scared to death of twisting the frame

@ryankc3631 9 ай бұрын

Yep.

@Blastfence1 2 жыл бұрын

Looks dangerous

@FlockingmMollifordsonite 2 жыл бұрын

And of corse you chock you’re wheels before you start all that.

@FlockingmMollifordsonite 2 жыл бұрын

Would’ve been worth having the camera closer and narration after the fact if at all necessary.

@stewartj3407 3 жыл бұрын

Welp, I’ll be buying an odyssey next time around. No way my battery could do that. How many cca on that battery?

@wdgaylord 3 жыл бұрын

I chose the PC1500DT (item # 0785-2035). It has top posts and side connections leaving me the option to easily connect accessories. The PC1500DT sports 85 CCA and is rated for 400 cycles at 80% depth of charge. It weighs 50 lbs! odysseybatteries.com

@Elaba_ 10 ай бұрын

This one didn't get catapulted...

@malmal5158 3 жыл бұрын

wont be long before do another one you just ring barked another tree with a chain round it

@H-RutherfordHill Жыл бұрын

Not sure that flat tire is helping much.

@davidjames1684 2 жыл бұрын

Next time rent a helicopter and pull that tree stump straight up. What could possibley go wrong (famous last words).

@KelikakuCoutin Жыл бұрын

Helium balloons actually could be even better. Also once stump is free, it would have avoided any need to clean up the stump, which would have disappeared into the clouds.

@benreform3357 3 жыл бұрын

Tire is fuuuucked

@wdgaylord 3 жыл бұрын

It looked like it but the bead reseated and it held air.

@davereade4017 2 жыл бұрын

You need 3 blocks

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

Need to be mindful of cable strength. I was pushing with this setup. I’d be concerned of failure with another snatch block.

@davereade4017 2 жыл бұрын

@@wdgaylord as long as you have good sling you will be fine 2 blocks is the same as one

@Ntwadumela1 2 жыл бұрын

@@wdgaylord Adding pulleys increases the force on the stump but not on the cable.

@Ntwadumela1 2 жыл бұрын

@@davereade4017 His setup was 3:1. You can get up to 4:1 with 2 blocks and up to 2:1 with one block.

@wdgaylord 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ntwadumela1 Thanks for watching and commenting. I’ll admit that when talking during the video, some of words got in front of my thoughts. The force applied at the winch cannot exceed the capacity of the winch but as we multiply, the force applied down the line must increase else total force to the load cannot increase. In a simple setup with one block, I agree that the force on the line remains constant but when a second block is added, the force on the last part of line is equal to the force applied to the load.