The spin on automatic transmission filter should be on EVERY automatic transmission made today. Such a great engineering idea in my opinion. All Subaru had to do was make the auto trans filter a different size so it could not be confused with the engine oil filter. Transmissions would last much longer with the ease of service with a spin on filter and a good old fashioned dipstick!
@PapiDoesIt3 жыл бұрын
The car companies don't need for the transmission to last longer than the payments.
@smedleybutler1969 Жыл бұрын
They want your transmission to die right after the warranty expires!
@harveysmith1003 жыл бұрын
Subaru should have used a different sized threat on the transmission filter.
@alexandregoricke59463 жыл бұрын
It is always good to be learning here on this channel.
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@acela30th3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking one ($40) for the team...👍🏽 I have 2, 2008 Subarus, so this is interesting 🧐...Thanks, Mr. Subaru!
@meanodustino95633 жыл бұрын
A/T filter is a must. Though i go to Napa for one. $15 vs $50 from dealer. Much cheaper and at $15 i change it yearly
@valdius853 жыл бұрын
You need to say "Subaru America" says, as we both know "Subaru Japan" has different maitanance schedule. :) I've asked a second hand Subaru dealer in Tokyo about how often the CVT oil. The answer was: 40k km (25k miles). The guy was very surprised that I cared to ask.
@josipmikac81613 ай бұрын
if only I had watched this video before, the mechanic put an oil filter on my 5eat and now I have a problem, gearbox slipping, greetings from Croatia, you have the best videos
@richblitz29642 ай бұрын
Recently brought in my 2001 H6 with 200K miles for ATF drain & fill. Using an independent shop with two very experienced Subaru mechanics. I also asked them to change my screw on ATF filter. They strongly recommended against that, saying they’ve seen it cause problems when they are replaced. They must truly believe this, as they basically refused to take my money to perform that part of the service. Seems counterintuitive, but there you go. There’s another well-known independent Subaru shop in my hometown, and they had took the same approach when they changed my fluid last time. They did not change the ATF filter. They cited the fact that the Subaru maintenance schedule does not show changing the ATF filter as a recommended service. That is true, but it does make me wonder why they would use a screw on filter for a part that they never want you to change.
@dnukem17223 жыл бұрын
It’s scary thinking about some of the people that work on cars 😂
@josephhettiger27112 жыл бұрын
As a transmission rebuilder id have to say that the engine filter media would tear if used in the transmission and the bypass valve psi setting would be incorrect. Ive always wondered why they printed engine on the blue filters never thought someone would use one for a transmission
@jameso27203 жыл бұрын
I had replaced my AT filter on my 03' LL Bean with a WIX AT. OEM japan filter was plugged. Definitely not lifetime. Smoother shifting now. Thanks Mr. Subaru
@johnpflug15673 жыл бұрын
Another great video! On our 2006 Outback, I changed the trans fluid every 30k, and the filter every 60k. Used Subaru filters; Bosch was only $5 cheaper. Traded in the car with 150k miles and never experienced a transmission issue.
@xMods-ld8nx3 жыл бұрын
2006 Subaru Outback never changed trans fluid. 240k miles. Zero issues
@richardbruto672 жыл бұрын
@@xMods-ld8nx Any transmission additive?
@Markus-xy8uo3 жыл бұрын
Replaced my filter at 330'000 km but always replaced oil. I agree with you should replace more often. Why not, its easy.
@larryborkstrom35803 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that even a lube tech don't know the difference from engine and trans
@jp2246 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful, answered this question perfectly!
@michealrobinson3 жыл бұрын
I hate that manufacturing companies claim that the transmission fluid/filter is lifetime these days, or that you either need a dealer tool to service it or have to bring it to the dealer for the service that they will likely say you don't need.
@Americansikkunt Жыл бұрын
Does Subaru require a key tool to change transmission fluid or filter?
@willmenv35663 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be honest with you MrSubaru. I used to be a lube tech at a Walmart Auto Center and 80% of the time the idiotic coworkers drained the transmission fluid and removed the atf filter on older Subarus. It was very annoying because I had to fix their stupidity in order to get this car finished so I literally had to finish the job while they learned from their mistakes but they still never learn. But I’m so happy that I left before COVID-19 took over, currently I am an express Lube Tech at a Subaru Dealership and I have to say, it’s way better compared to when I worked at Walmart Auto Center. But thank you for the entertaining video!
@Set_your_handle773 жыл бұрын
I gave you a Thumbs Up even though I can't see the video just yet because YT is down.
@BLKBRDD Жыл бұрын
I love how they hid it behind the battery in the H6 BP Liberty and Outback. Tbh I had no idea it even had a filter until I saw it in the service manual 😅
@4skully Жыл бұрын
is this on the 2011 3.6 Outback Limited? I heard it is I need to know I am going to be having a tech help me and will I need to move the battery out of the way? please let me know. Thanks. I already got the wix spin on.
@BLKBRDD Жыл бұрын
@@4skully Best way to find out is to google around for a pdf of the service manual of the model year of your car
@kopboy552 ай бұрын
its hidden behinmd the headlamp on the 2005 outback xt aswell, and svx if im not mistaken...
@grandtheftauto12333 жыл бұрын
Very educational and thanks for the laugh as I also can’t wrap my head around people confusing the drains and filters. Additionally thanks for showing the design differences and materials! I definitely won’t be running FRAM scam made subaru filters
@ukspice693 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this , I knew there would be something different
@donaldjames44373 жыл бұрын
Great info I have a 2007 4 speed EAT good stuff to know thinking about draining down 4 quarts and adding a new filter the dealership /stealership etc offer expensive repairs with no explanation of why they are needed. You make sense to me. Looking at the cost of new Subarus only briefly then the sticker shock puts me in the Toyota camp. Subaru Forester has been great changed rear wheel bearings and timing belt plus passenger side boot think I am good. Thanks for the insights.
@george4203 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time understanding how someone could get the two filters mixed up. I'd admit, I almost did when I got under my first subaru but quickly thought the AT filter didn't seem to be anywhere near where it should be if it were a oil filter. So I took a closer look and finally found it up behind the radiator.
@raymotor2 жыл бұрын
Great Video MrSubaru
@joehillbilly4515 Жыл бұрын
Hi, on my 2007 Legacy 3.0 with the 5EAT the ATF filter is located behind the battery. I think many owners not are aware of that and believe there's no filter to replace.
@teh603 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm almost positive the reason they deleted the spin on trans filter was to avoid the quick lube mess ups. I've also seen cars that have had the CVT drained thinking it was the engine oil.
@ap1010813 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that Amsoil only sells one filter for both applications! They should know better I would think? I hate the fact that my 2017 Crosstrek does not have a spin on filter or a dipstick!
@philn16013 жыл бұрын
My 04 Forester has 220 Kmiles on original engine and transmission. I replaced oil filter 1 time per year and transmission oil filter 1 every other year using Frame premium filter 6627 I believe. It still run OK now.
@bbodan53933 жыл бұрын
I think I posted on another channel about the ATF filter essentially being free flow. On the remote filter on the 5eat it wouldn't benefit from an anti drain back valve either. I want to cut into mine, when I change it though. There is a spring with a flat piece of metal on the inside of the filter media. I made the mistake of pushing on the round metal plate on the inside of the filter with fine screen mesh that was attached to the end. I accidentally pushed it down a bit and a little crooked. I never looked at the part number to see if it was superceded along it's design. For $25, I would hope maybe the filter media might be a different micron filament. That's just my 2 cents, and something to make you go hmmmm.
@kylemurdoc3 жыл бұрын
Good info especially for those side or even more the top mounting oil filter people. I've had the time to watch a lot of oil filter cut open videos and found there's a big difference in base Fram (extra) vs higher step up Frams. For many years I was base Fram user now I'm going Denso form rockauto. I have a motorcraft filter on my car right now because of combined shipping, my filter mounts on the bottom so no real concern.
@bernhardk77203 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. Subaru dealer quoted just over $70 Aust last change (part alone), so I put a Ryco trans oil filter (just over $30 Aust) on instead. Did the whole job myself (including internal filter and naturally the oil). It’s very tempting, without realising the difference to use engine oil filter where trans oil is. In past non-Subaru spare parts seller said I could use engine oil filter in both situations. I would prefer Subaru to have left the spin on filters in use and discarded the internal filter, with more regular oil changes. I despise these asses who design things to breakdown earlier, considering most Subaru owners are not wealthy enough to turn their cars over so quickly.
@Second_Insight3 жыл бұрын
Since the atf filter is changed so infrequently, make sure you have the right one on. No quickie lube.
@__-ko3dc3 жыл бұрын
I doubt you still check comments for this video, but on the off chance you do, would you only recommend oem transmission filter or would a wix transmission filter be just fine? I have had good experience with all types of wix filters, and could probably get a wix transmission filter for less money than oem.
@marioj37663 жыл бұрын
I know I saw the diagram, but it would have been a lot more interesting if you would have shown the ATF filter behind the headlight like in my 06 obxt
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
Didn't have one to show it on.
@mrboxer46983 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education!
@Modeltnick3 жыл бұрын
Should you use a better filter than the Subaru/Fram filter, since it’s a Fram??
@RumoredAtmos3 ай бұрын
Does the 2010 impreza have a transmission filter?
@kurtfirestone27613 жыл бұрын
You mention all these different number of engines but I thought Subaru only makes around 4 different engines. it's sort of hard to figure out which ones you're talking about with all the different numbers instead of the engine sizes I guess
@henrydrew5 ай бұрын
Do you know what size filter wrench you would need to remove the ATF filter on a 2009 Subaru Tribeca w/5EAT?
@tscotom2 жыл бұрын
Material wise & construction design of both Subaru AT and Engine filters are not so very different, which means the material/manufacturing costs of both filters are probably similar or the same. We do not know if the paper or cardboard (?) filter elements are one and the same though. I would give an added premium to the AT filter for the simple reason of higher pressures w/in the ATransmission. Having said that, $6.+ for the engine oil filter and $30.+ for this AT filter is simply ridiculous and smacks of 'capitalistic GREED.' :-(
@mikeessary49253 жыл бұрын
Does a 2014 3.6 outback have a transmission filter? Thanks, love the channel!
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
No.
@javierr35153 жыл бұрын
I live in Argentina. Does a 2011 Impreza have a ATF filter?? I have never heard of it. Thank you
@apicars12873 жыл бұрын
I always use the wix xp filter
@symple0013 жыл бұрын
same
@amosmaclain6775 Жыл бұрын
Does the 2010 subaru impreza GH2 has that transmission fluid
@dexternuqui75310 ай бұрын
Does the 4EAT Transmission have this ATF Filter?
@christopherhofmann99202 жыл бұрын
The absence of a bypass valve on the trans filter doesn’t exactly allow free flow does it? Isn’t there a screen in the middle of the filter as well?
@ChrisLesmerises2 жыл бұрын
It appears my 4eat torque converter shudder on decel may be from using a non oem trans filter.
@Rob-ob3sh3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Subaru I like your videos great work. A little off subject as I have a 2018 Crosstrek 21,000 km I had the breaks service done twice once per year as per the service manual and the dealership ship is already saying rear breaks will need to be done soon and ai notice when applying breaks that the car is not stoping smoothly like it did. I also read a recall on break lines but never received a recall notice. Do you think this is premature break wear ? Thanks
@Romulan112 Жыл бұрын
Let me see, Subaru wants $40 for their ATF filter and Wix ATF wants $13. Which one do I buy? I went with the WiX
@aaro1985 Жыл бұрын
Question. If I DO NOT have a spin-on oil filter on the transmission, is installing it as simple as removing the cover Subaru put there and installing a filter?
@timbrown97313 жыл бұрын
Wish the 5eat had a spin on ..... but I change my fluid every 15 or 20 K so I bet that filter is decent...
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
What filter?
@timbrown97313 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 true it's probably more like a strainer lol
@timbrown97313 жыл бұрын
I would assume Subaru is running a GM style filter on the 5EAT???
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
@@timbrown9731 no.
@timbrown97313 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 no way? That's crazy Robert !
@marksilverman36932 жыл бұрын
Where can i buy the Japanese filter for my 2021 outback XT?
@stephengoad30912 жыл бұрын
They got rid of it just to make the transmissions blow up faster. Manufacturers nowadays try to make it as difficult as possible to service your own vehicle so you'll bring your car back to the dealership or mechanic to do any servicing.
@seanhorvath94472 жыл бұрын
2013 Forester automatic trans - do i have this trans filter?? I cant say ive ever seen it while working on the vehicle.
@brianhilligoss3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the filter on the suction side of the pump? So not high pressure.
@STI-CLUBNET3 жыл бұрын
What partnumber of the big filter? ...AA022 ...AA023?
@462ANIMAL3 жыл бұрын
What kinda issues can it cause to the transmission? I’ll have to check my transmission to see what filter it has on it. I have a transmission issue when cold only light throttle just before it switches from first gear to second.. if I’m heavier on the throttle it doesn’t happen.. it’s like it’s not applying the clutch al the way.. like a shudder.
@harryburford66293 жыл бұрын
hi what about the 1990 legecy
@jojopojo95163 жыл бұрын
I used a Wix trans filter on my 05' Forester but I drive it so rarely that the filter is nowhere near the end of its service life so no reason cut it open.
@subarufan12373 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about purchasing a 2011 Subaru Outback 2.5i base with 150k do you think that will be a good choice?
@absboodoo3 жыл бұрын
Anybody want to donate the 40 dollar pink STi oil filter to MrSubaru for a comparison video?
@Markus-xy8uo3 жыл бұрын
2007 forester AU
@ValentinArzola3 жыл бұрын
Does the 5 speed manual have a transmission oil filter?
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@ValentinArzola3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 thank you
@mrboxer46983 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on when its too late to do a transmission fluid change due to high mileage
@mrboxer46983 жыл бұрын
I have a high mileage legacy but fluid still has a redish color to it
@stockholm23753 жыл бұрын
@@mrboxer4698 Chances are it's still okay to change the fluid if it's still red or red-ish. If it's very dark brown or black then I'd be worried.
@bradbuchsieb23553 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 Outback 3.0 with a 5EAT. Does the flow of the ATF come from the transmission to the filter then to the radiator?
@scottgriffin4493 жыл бұрын
Probaby from the radiator to the filter, then from the filter to trans and back radiator
@kevinm51773 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to use the black filter meant for the 2019 WRX on a 2017 Forester? Seems like they are better than the blue Fram made ones.
@promethbastard3 жыл бұрын
I don't buy US filters... but I'm in Australia ;) If the engine is the same, I'd say no problem at all!
@johnnyc55872 жыл бұрын
Do I have to replace the washer on the drain plug ????
@MrSubaru13872 жыл бұрын
You should be.
@burhanuddin77823 жыл бұрын
Hi cool content, very very informative ✌️ question what kind of transmission fluid will you suggest for a 2004 Forester xt turbo automatic transmission?
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
2004 should call for Dexron. Possibly Subaru ATF-HP. They transitioned around 04-06. Check the owners manual to be sure.
@burhanuddin77823 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 ok Thank you for your help✌️✌️✌️
@trillcollins78473 жыл бұрын
Any advice on what to do when a backyard mechanic takes your car to repair but ends up making it about 10x worse? I went from having a very very small oil drip on long drives to it full on dumping oil out of the older of the two valve cover gaskets on my 04 FXT. Im thinking of asking for my money back and if they wont comply I'll take it to small claims court. Any advice is welcome! Also, great video as always! Thanks for the info!
@thedude47073 жыл бұрын
What repair did they do??
@trillcollins78473 жыл бұрын
@@thedude4707 Well, it started off as a general tune up (fluid changes, spark plugs, etc) with a valve cover gasket replacement and then the front transmission bearings were in need of a replacement and now we're here. Undrivable due to the excessive amount of oil it just throws onto the ground.
@thedude47073 жыл бұрын
@@trillcollins7847 hmmm maybe he pinched the valve cover gasket.. Hope you're not in a lot of $$
@SquallRinoa893 жыл бұрын
2005 5EAT does not have it?
@MrSubaru13873 жыл бұрын
Filter is behind the headlight, LF.
@getatme97513 жыл бұрын
Hey I got a 2006 b9 tribeca h6 boxer I just had to put a used moter in and know my car runs hot 🔥 goes to the 3/4 mark never red lines i put new hoses and thermostat and radiator and cap is new did test for the heads no sign that there is a blown head gasket at all the dealership can't find out why its getting hot has any one else had this problem and fixed it on the h6 boxer
@darylsturges3830 Жыл бұрын
Put lower temp thermostat , remove plastic nappy , use nulon blue coolant , check for air bubbles in overflow which suggests head gasket . Did the above to a forester with small gasket leak and it working fine 3 yr after . And put in nulon 5 30 synthetic changed 6 monthly
@darylsturges3830 Жыл бұрын
And put in synthetic trans fluid ( trans connected to engine so heat transfer?)
@darylsturges3830 Жыл бұрын
Check fans are working , check radiator not blocked , open top and look for flow after starting it -carefully! or buy new radiator which I did when it leaked from top plastic glue/metal tabs at the seam
@CleanteamofNY3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where's the transmission filter is on the 2010 Subaru Limited Forester?
@jerryyoung64943 жыл бұрын
Im wondering the same thing for a 2012
@jerryyoung64943 жыл бұрын
I just googled this and it was on 1999-2009 models. We’re out of that window
@imicybro3 жыл бұрын
I tried to watch this while youtube was down
@stockholm23753 жыл бұрын
So in regards to using an oil filter in place of a transmission filter, it looks like a case of "you can, but you shouldn't". Are there any known adverse effects of using an oil filter instead, other than cheap filters wearing away? And if you make something idiot-proof (I.E. "A/T" written right on the stupid thing) the world just invents a smarter idiot. Though despite the risks I'd love it if more cars had that filter type. Dunno about you, but I'm not fond of my ATF filter *inside the bell housing*
@idiotgo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for wasting those filters for educational purposes.
@TCPUDPATM3 жыл бұрын
The Subaru filters are made by FRAM? Hell no. Fram is garbage. I guess I won't be using OEM filters anymore.
@MiguelMartinez-hm1hg3 жыл бұрын
It seems impossible but tell how I know that angry wife didn't wait for me to do an oil change took it to a lube shop for oil change on a 94 4runner but this time it wasn't the oil filter it was the drain plug engine and transmission pan have the oil drain plug close but if you do an oil change before or work on a lube shop you know the engine oil drain plug is under the engine no the transmission 😱😱😱 just to make it shorter smoking engine mess up transmission shop didn't own their mistake transmission last 1 month with some issues on shifting right after the oil mistake
@xXxkingkiller3 жыл бұрын
Vessel JAWSFIT contest
@harryburford66293 жыл бұрын
i mean ej 20
@merlinwizard10003 жыл бұрын
25th
@samuelkrinninger30603 жыл бұрын
The atf filter is crazy expensive 😂
@420visiont-_-3 жыл бұрын
For my 2011 FB25 Forester its like $50 for a Chinese plastic filter. OEM plastic AT Filter 😅😅😅😣😣
@FishFind30003 жыл бұрын
$71 for a zf pan/filter on my bmw. That’s a lot better then bmws rebranded zf filter at $270. $50 for a spin on filter seems high when for $70 I’m getting the whole transmission pan/filter and gasket.
@seungjae74623 жыл бұрын
Cant believe they make those filters out of cardboard. Wtf