Yessss good engine

Nice man they’re both awesome cars

I was looking at the v6 one possibly for a first car what are your opinions on it for a first car? Any major issues with the engine suspension etc

@@tullyryan4053 These are H6 not V6 but yes they are good first cars overall especially if you live in a climate with snow. The reliability isn't bad and most can get past 200k miles. I have a 2.5i 4cyl and its at about 209k right now. Just always check your oil at least once every two weeks, and change it frequently.

​​@@tysone1254 2.0L ej and 3.0L ez are both much more reliable than ej25 engines so its even a better choice. All horror stories about subarus are exclusively the fault of subaru being lazy and stupid about ej25, by using cheap gaskets in naturallt aspirated ones(which were like 80% of their sales in usa on most models) and turbo ej25 being an afterthought bored out design based of ej22 and they messed up design wise with cooling, uel headers cooked even the better mls headgaskets to death as well as piston ringlands on turbo models and combined with overly wide oil pan and relatively high oil consumption when driving hard, endagered it with oil starvation. EJ20/ej22 in all variants had a narrow oil pan and equal lenght headers and adequate cooling, so those never had these flaws and failures. EZ30 the same. Subaru tarnished their reputation with ej25 because of how often it was chosen in US spec imprezas, foresters, legacies and outbacks throughtout the 2000s

No prob! Glad you enjoyed it

Thanks man!

Yes that would be interesting

Very nice!

Thanks!

i have a USDM 18 wrx and that "lugging" sound/feel drives me crazy. i have no idea how to get rid of it, even my buddies brand new 23 wrx does it

@@LunasLostLove I feel you, sometimes in a car park my car starts violently rocking back and forth.. it makes it look like I'm shit at driving manual but I'm not even using the clutch only throttle. I think rev hang might have something to do with it

Good to hear!

Mmm yeah tbh I’d rather have the older shape in the video, the newer ones have really plasticy interiors and I think they’re a bit ugly

@@KiwiCarLife Yeah, I never liked the rear-end design of the newer sedans; I prefer wagons and hatches anyway 😅. Can't speak for quality as I've never been in one, but I've seen photos and I think the newer interior looks more modern, plus I've heard the soft touch dash on the older ones tend to melt and disintegrate. Everyone likes different things and has different opinions, so I'll definitely check out both gens and see which one I like better.

If you can find it, try find a spec b 3.0r manual pre facelift. I used to own one with full options and it was glorious@@DJBla2e01

Newer shape slower than my stock blade master, this shape smoked my mate off the line in his s14 full 3 inch exhaust intake and brand spankers s15 turbo.

Yeah I agree

Yezzz

Very nice and yeah the EJ20 has a heap of potential for sure

I haven't, if they're anything like this older 4th gen I imagine they'll be pretty good!

Don't. They're nowhere near as good.

@@markthompson8397 tbh yeah that’s what I thought

@@markthompson8397 how so?

Yeah was in S#. And agree it needs a good exhaust system to open it up

Yeah... the ez30 sounds fantastic. Just needs a (full) exhaust

The driving modes are already mapped as in they alter the throttle body opening angle, what I meant was that my engine is mapped for 99 RON fuel, only on the S# mode however as its too wild for everyday driving - I just put into S# when the needs arise@@KennedySilva06

2.0L turbo definitely feels more potent yes

25kw difference and the torque curve

HOH id love to drive a 3.0R on the autobahn

I see

@@KiwiCarLife Im not sure if the liberty is different than the legacy in this regard.

Thanks haha

Oh nice man that would be awesome

One of the Japanese videos I’ve watched claimed that they originally intended to build the s402 with a flat 6 engine. I don’t know the reason but they ultimately opted for a twin-scroll 2.5 engine. It would make more financial sense to keep the s402 stock as they are supposed to be rare and collectible. I’m currently toying with the idea of getting a UK six speed manual 3.0 spec b and modifying it to ride like an s402.

Yeah that’s on my list of things to do

Yeah that would be interesting, going to tee that video up soon

Feel? Or turn in? Tyres don’t really change steering “feel” all that much. It’s mainly down to the rack and power steering pump, suspension design all that

HAHA that’s just for the cheap car challenges my guy

I value driving experience over outright speed and at least with these two examples, the 6 is a nicer drive

@@KiwiCarLife I hear you. The gearbox can make an engine fantastic or ruin it.

Oh yeah could be keen, you wanna hit me up on Insta?

Haha yep you know it

Very nice

Yep mine's had (or needs) similar stuff done to it

Fair enough, I think it sounds dull personally

Very nice!

Hmm wheel bearing?

Took it in for that exactly and they said it’s fine, I think I might have to go to another one just in case 🫣

Took it in for that exactly and they said it’s fine, I think I might have to go to another one just in case 🫣

Yeah that would be handy aye. I’m pretty sure some of the later 2.0T’s came 6MT

@@KiwiCarLife not in the US, 2005 was the only year we got the manual and it was just the 5 speed. I'm sure elsewhere got a 6MT, North America can't have nice things.

2.0t is 206kW in Japan. So it’s 26kW down. And no turbo so torque doesn’t come in till later. N/A always feels less grunty than turbo

@@KiwiCarLife Thanks mate

Yeah they go well

Yeah absolutely man the jatco 5eat is not great but the sti manual these cars have is so so good

Mine isn’t too bad

Yes it is a spec b

Yeah I know that would have been awesome aye, I wonder if anyone’s swapped one in?

Didn’t go fast enough to find out, but the 5 speed definitely has longer gears

@@KiwiCarLife Thanks, Im obsessed with tall gearing.

Oh great heavens

@@KiwiCarLife We live in hope, you could disguise yourself ?

Yes that would be a very interesting comparison

There has been and legacy wins. KZfaq it

Yeah I guess so, I like refinement and predictability personally

Mmm yeah need a raptor supercharger

Really? I would have to disagree but that’s all good!

Yes we had so many NPC's just driving around while we were trying to film, you'll see a 320i in the background of some shots too coz they just parked up and said "oh I hope we're not in the way"

Yeah absolutely man, very much a do everything car

Mmm yes good combo

Yeah that's exactly what I was referring to. Cars without feeling and feedback by definition aren't precise and are hard to place

@@KiwiCarLife Ah, I think it might be a more subjective part of the experience then. I find if I approach the steering in my Legacy almost ‘mathematically’, she goes right where you point her even if it doesn’t give me much feel. But definitely not as intuitive or ‘feel’ based as my e46.

Yeah I think you’re right

Yes I was looking for this comment there is a 6 speed always listed as "rare" here in Nz but they are often found for sale

Good vehicles

The 2.0L makes a lot more power though

@@KiwiCarLife ah you're right.. Id recently compared the 2.5 and the 3.0 and they're the same.. The 2.0 is quicker.. But too old so wasn't on my radar.

Good cars

Haha yeah I like the flat 6 too

Or raptor supercharger?

@@KiwiCarLife comes down to personal preference. Some videos of a white 3.0 wagon with a raptor and it sounds insane

@@chrisreardon7185 yeah I’ve seen that

Yeah me too

Hahah well yeah owning a 3.0R legacy and 130i, the BMW is definitely the better drivers car. Partly coz it's done way less k's so feels tighter, but RWD > AWD, I6 > F6, trans and steering feel is better, nicer interior etc.

Good video

@@KiwiCarLife indeed