Subwoofer in a Recording Studio - do we need them?

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Adam Steel

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5 жыл бұрын

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Today we're talking about subwoofers - do we want them in a studio to provide more low end? Or is there more to it?
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@jettsom
@jettsom 3 жыл бұрын
Mixing with my Adam A5's, there's no way I could get the bass right without a sub. For me, it's invaluable.
@weskey8831
@weskey8831 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your channel. Many of the audio channels out here have a snooty, know-it-all vibe. In your case, you clearly know a lot, yet are sharing the info in a way that is helpful and not self-serving. I'll keep watching!
@leopolddjurovic7345
@leopolddjurovic7345 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Answered all my questions super easily. Thank you!
@BubbaSatori
@BubbaSatori 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education about subs. Very helpful.
@TheMjriley5150
@TheMjriley5150 3 жыл бұрын
I'm adding a Sub10 to my A7X monitors today. This video is GOLD! Thanks for posting!
@ULTRAVIOLENCECHANNEL
@ULTRAVIOLENCECHANNEL 9 ай бұрын
How are u liking the sub10??
@WDXash
@WDXash 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you re having a subwoofer. Our ears hear sounds much lower than virtually all regular loudspeakers and monitors will produce, so why wouldn’t people want to be able to hear what’s going on in productions. Like you say, it’s not about having more bass although, being pedantic, there will be more bass but it’s only because of the extra extension you will get form adding a sub. Life is full of subsonic noise... just like many tweeters go way above the human hearing range - there’s a reason they do, it’s all about not being able to detect cut-off, which also adds to the overall sonic ambience. Go into any high street and take note of a large HGV lorry moving along in heavy traffic, few speakers (other than subs) will be able to reproduce the low end frequencies you’ll be hearing from the lorry’s exhaust note alone. Many synthesisers are capable of producing incredibly low frequencies, so I’d say it’s best to be able to hear them as they should be heard.
@johnfowlertrailrunning
@johnfowlertrailrunning 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Really useful info, you have a new subscriber! 😀
@boimesa8190
@boimesa8190 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Not enough of this out there :)
@gurindersingh7933
@gurindersingh7933 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man thanks for sharing valuable information.
@luckycatbeats9607
@luckycatbeats9607 3 жыл бұрын
Great information man I just started not liking my mixes as i heard em in other speakers and was wondering if a subwoofer would help get better mixes
@JimmyBlimps
@JimmyBlimps 4 жыл бұрын
Really insightful video, thanks for this. I'm currently trying to work out what purchases to make for my studio and I'm really struggling on the monitor part of it. I've narrowed it down to either Yamaha HS8's or Presonus E8 XT's and no sub, or an E5 XT + a sub. Thing is, the room isn't great - maybe 12 square meters and all the conventional knowledge says get smaller monitors and definitely have no sub. But bass is really important to me, not like emphasized and overpowering bass, but like you talked about: even representation all the way down. It's doing my head in trying to make this decision, but if what you're saying here works then there might be a chance. I might just buy a sub and reference 4 no matter what monitors I end up choosing, then do my best at treating the room and see how far that gets me.
@riktascale4
@riktascale4 5 жыл бұрын
Love your studio man!
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - awesome user name by the way ;)
@enrique203909
@enrique203909 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the value
@riktascale4
@riktascale4 4 жыл бұрын
Hey did you do that next video on subwoofer placement?? Also can you do something more detailed on measurement like you were talking about with the pink noise?? Thanks.
@bjonyeoh
@bjonyeoh 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the A7X and dual sub8. I would like to know the settings on your monitors and subs.
@DJMixomnia
@DJMixomnia 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm considering getting a subwoofer as my 5" monitors lack some low end. My room is pretty small though, so still figuring out how I would go about setting it up properly.
@Freakhealer
@Freakhealer 4 жыл бұрын
he has a video on that
@DJMixomnia
@DJMixomnia 4 жыл бұрын
@@Freakhealer Thanks! I discovered that soon after my comment. I went out and got the KRK 12S2 and gotta say that I'm really pleased with it. Delivers proper low end even at low volumes, so keeps me and the neighbours happy!
@rendyandrian7149
@rendyandrian7149 5 жыл бұрын
Adam. I'm planning to get a pair of Yamaha HS7, which is a cheap studio monitor. I'll use it mainly for playing music or guitar with amp sim. I don't record or mixing anything. It just happens nowadays I prefer a flat frequency speaker for my PC than a multimedia one. My room, where I put my PC, is just a normal room and doesn't have any sound dampening material like studio. If I put HS7 in my room, do you think it will sound more awful compared to multimedia speaker ? Do you think I need a subwoofer ? Thanks for your answer.
@arabicmusicacademybelgium3710
@arabicmusicacademybelgium3710 5 жыл бұрын
I have Same speaker , Adam a7x and Adam Sub 8, Do you think it's good idea to use another sub ( dual sub ) ?
@SevenSinsChoppers
@SevenSinsChoppers 4 жыл бұрын
2 of these would be dope.
@erroldtumaque3430
@erroldtumaque3430 5 жыл бұрын
great quality video and info deserves more views
@SandraesAttila
@SandraesAttila 3 жыл бұрын
How good can a PreSonus Temblor T10 subwoofer be for an Adam A7x? I think the Adam Sub10 is very fragile without a grid and even expensive.
@BillHesse
@BillHesse 5 жыл бұрын
I’m using the JBL 308 monitors currently. Thoughts on those and what I might be missing? I’m feeling like I’m still lacking detail I want on my high and low end.
@ayrtonhollingsworth4268
@ayrtonhollingsworth4268 4 жыл бұрын
i agree what kind of music do you make? I had the same monitors and returned them because the low end wasn't making a significant difference and punching enough. If you make hip/hop or bass house I'm thinking a decent sub can get that low end I want. Everyone says headphones works fine but eventually I think you hit a plateau and I'm thinking a sub/acoustics is the last step. You figure anything out?
@realIKON
@realIKON 4 жыл бұрын
thank you thank you thank you
@electedmusic7685
@electedmusic7685 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have my sub Adam 10 "MK2 And ADAM S2V couple in my homestudy, the fact is that I have it in the center between my two monitors, under my desk, if I leave it with the 0 ° phase and with sonarworks, the graph gives me a + -3db waveform up and down, between 100 Hz and 28 Hz. And if I change it to phase 180 °, I have a +6 dbs rise in the graph, from 80 Hz at 28 Hz. No waveform, all this measured in the whole room The question is that with phase at 0 °, as the graph says, At ear, I perceive less serious, and with the phase at 180 ° I perceive more serious. My question is, which of the two configurations do you think would be in the correct phase? I'm lost.
@aces3261
@aces3261 4 жыл бұрын
www.genelec.com/monitor-placement
@lilokwanza5221
@lilokwanza5221 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am Lilo Kwanza From Angola(Africa) so, i was watching your video and i got some question for u! appart Adams subwoofers which one would u use??? which brand and why?? i used to see their products on instagram but since i never saw people using, i thought were not nice products for studio... u just use Adam's subwoofers or u use their monitors as well???
@horstkraut3336
@horstkraut3336 3 жыл бұрын
In the beginning he said that he is using Adam monitors since some years. I think a7x or something
@EL_N0IR_2201
@EL_N0IR_2201 2 жыл бұрын
can anybody chime in please, i have some adam audio a8x 8" and recently bouht a adam t10s to pair with the a8s, did i make the right purchase? i deal with a lot of 8098s sub bass etc i am new to this.
@cratedigger89
@cratedigger89 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on room calibration like you mentioned towards the end?
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqtigd2E2J2-lnk.html
@bjonyeoh
@bjonyeoh 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am thinking of getting a second Sub8 for my setup. Will there be significant improvement compared to just one. Hope to hear your thoughts on the idea.
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure it will be “significant”, at higher volumes they will be more linear and I think you will notice the stereo feel
@AgriAutoIndia
@AgriAutoIndia Жыл бұрын
Nice info
@UmaRecordings
@UmaRecordings 3 жыл бұрын
I have read that the crossover point on those specific monitors are 50 and not 85 as you mentioned. I have the same ones. Maybe I’m mistaking?
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 3 жыл бұрын
the subwoofers are providing the 85hz filter externally, making that the crossover point and clearing up the low end dramatically
@buttschy9905
@buttschy9905 Жыл бұрын
Hallo und grüße aus Deutschland. Ich habe das Setup Adam Audio A4 und Sub8. Ich habe mit Sound ID for 2.0 Setup meine A4V+ Sub8 kalibriert. Bedingt das ich mein Tonstudio im Schlafzimmer aufgebaut habe habe ich einen großen Peak trotz 6 Basstraps bei 35 Herz und weiß daher nicht wie ich das Lautstärkenverhältnis zwischen Sub und Monitor einstellen soll. Und ist es besser den Knopf hinten am Sub einzuschalten damit 85 Hertz einen Highpassfilter für die Monitore immer eingestellt ist ? Grüße Carsten alias Buttschy EDM Producer
@grizcuz
@grizcuz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you've gone down the 'sub + smaller speakers' route, because on video at least, your room looks relatively large. I'm looking at doing the same, borrowed a friend's sub before he sold it to upgrade and the transformation to the quality of the sound in my [partly treated] room was remarkable. And that was with 8" mid/bass driver monitors, so not the smallest of speakers. Everything sounded and weirdly even felt just far tighter and more even from about 150 Hz down. I know it's often said that 'bass isn't directional so sub placement doesn't matter' [don't think I completely agree, matters less is probably closer to the truth]. Do you think the position of the woofer in the sub matters, woofer on the bottom compared to on the front?
@aces3261
@aces3261 4 жыл бұрын
www.genelec.com/monitor-placement
@AdminVortex762
@AdminVortex762 4 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Adams T5V. They're set up in a home office environment and sound 'good' but could a sub improve matters in the mid to high end? They're sat on a desk very near the wall and as it's a working office / hobby room (12'x10'), room treatment just isn't going to happen. I'd like a T10s sub but cost is prohibitive. What third party subs in a lower price bracket would you recommend to go with the T5Vs? Thanks.
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 4 жыл бұрын
A sub would be a terrible idea in that environment, if you’re already in a box room. Treatment is possible, even if it’s just acoustic foam mounted in a temporary way (picture pin in the wall, CD glued to the back of the foam panel) or some loft insulation under the desk
@AdminVortex762
@AdminVortex762 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Thanks for your brutal honesty - at least it'll save me some £££s! Loft insulation under the desk? I'll have to look that up. I always assumed that acoustic panels would increase the low end - are you saying it'll brighten up the mids/highs?
@AdminVortex762
@AdminVortex762 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer ... actually, you know what? - I hadn't yet listened to the Cocteau Twins on them. I have now. The monitors / room needs no correction! :-D
@RaJuRMusica
@RaJuRMusica 4 жыл бұрын
hiphop and r&b. i always used a sub with sattelites
@aces3261
@aces3261 4 жыл бұрын
Its the best unless u using 20,000$ 3ways
@riasure
@riasure 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hot Pole Studios, just came across your video on my search for a subwoofer to use in conjunction with my NS10’s:-). Are you still happy with this Ada, subwoofer? Would you still recommend it perhaps with the NS10’s? Thanks in advance.
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they’re good subs, still use mine. They should work great with NS10s
@riasure
@riasure 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer thanks so much for the prompt response. That sounds really encouraging. Think I might go for it!!
@riasure
@riasure 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Just out of interest where is the port on this sub? Is it at the bottom? As I have been unable to find any images of the underside. Thanks 😊
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s underside ported
@riasure
@riasure 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer thanks for the reply. Strange how it’s not mentioned on Adam audio website (or maybe I missed it) but it is good to know. Cheers👍🏾
@thomeetofficial
@thomeetofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Good
@redcomn
@redcomn 4 жыл бұрын
Thought i got no uses of em. Until i play synth with geetah....
@adamosarczuk7215
@adamosarczuk7215 4 жыл бұрын
yoooooooo they share my namesake too! cheers mate :)
@NelsonCartier
@NelsonCartier 5 жыл бұрын
yo my studio sub say...low pass freq..what should i set it to? 50hz to 150hz
@stefan_4508
@stefan_4508 5 жыл бұрын
Nelson Cartier In general the golden rule is to set it to double the lowest frequency of you studio monitors
@yodhamheaven
@yodhamheaven 5 жыл бұрын
my friendd sell ada a8x with adam sub8 , does it suit well doesnt it need bigger sub like 12, or sub 8 will do fine with adam a8x
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
They should work fine; you don’t “need” a sub 10 or 12, it’s nice to have but a serious upgrade
@thomaspipermusic
@thomaspipermusic 5 жыл бұрын
I Have the Sub 10 i think it has the proper headroom and i'm using the A7x
@MediaMusik777
@MediaMusik777 3 жыл бұрын
so why did you choose the sub8 over the 10 just curious cuz I have the same setup now
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted 2 in stereo and the 8 was in the right price range
@MediaMusik777
@MediaMusik777 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer noice i have a small room 20 sq meters so my jbl310s was too big hoping the 8 will be better
@RusticRaver
@RusticRaver 5 жыл бұрын
so , using an active sub with amplified passive speakers would be a real mess?
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t see why that would be a problem- the only difference between active and passive speakers is where the amps are. As long as your setup is calibrated, maybe with a crossover in the right place, there’s no mess
@RusticRaver
@RusticRaver 5 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer thx for reply, ok I would need cross over to make it work , right. I'm still debating here. the speakers here have an amazing cross over, I was a bit unsure about mix and match aspect. thx
@MVPProductionsBeats
@MVPProductionsBeats 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to get the brand as your monitors ?
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 4 жыл бұрын
Haha no, it’s just a good idea as they’re probably designed to work together well
@MVPProductionsBeats
@MVPProductionsBeats 4 жыл бұрын
Hop Pole Studios heard good stuff about the Yamaha HS8S? I currently have the HS7 studio monitors.
@UnknownHumanoid
@UnknownHumanoid 4 жыл бұрын
Is 28Hz enough?!
@dukenukem007
@dukenukem007 5 жыл бұрын
so why did you choose the 8 instead of the 10? I didn't hear the answer to that one.
@joesolos
@joesolos 5 жыл бұрын
cause some people say 10 inches is too much but no one has ever been anything but impressed by an 8 incher
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
Hur hur hur
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
The real reason was budget based, I wanted to get two for a stereo setup and so two 10 inch subs was prohibitively expensive
@mmwalker6828
@mmwalker6828 4 жыл бұрын
Utred??
@UnknownHumanoid
@UnknownHumanoid 4 жыл бұрын
dude that mic is 300$? damn!
@djdoolittle1315
@djdoolittle1315 5 жыл бұрын
💚🎧👍
@MonsieurVersatile
@MonsieurVersatile Жыл бұрын
You didn’t explain why you went for the 8 rather than 10 inch as you promised 😢
@neptunevibe
@neptunevibe 4 жыл бұрын
You should rename your Studio and Channel: Hot Paula Studios. Is way hotter!
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 4 жыл бұрын
Errrr.... that’s my mothers name, so maybe not.... :/
@neptunevibe
@neptunevibe 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Oh sorry Mate.. I didn't know. Then: Not Hot Paula Studios.
@sallycinamon1275
@sallycinamon1275 3 жыл бұрын
Chav car 'sound systems' that impress check out girls from Asda, or dub reggae and weed.
@yodhamheaven
@yodhamheaven 5 жыл бұрын
does a7x match the sub 12 adam? i have RCF mytho6 6.5inch and get sub 12 adam from my friend,, can they match correctly?
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
There’s no reason they wouldn’t match. But I would say the sub 12 is far higher quality and over time you would want to replace your main monitors with something far higher quality to match like a set of Adam S3V
@joshwalshthe1
@joshwalshthe1 3 жыл бұрын
I love sub woofers but is it not flawed if you mix for sun woofers and then people who buy the music don't own sub woofers ? Don't get me wrong I think everyone should invest in sub woofers and a dedicated sound setup ... But most people want music on the go on trash headphones
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 3 жыл бұрын
You can always turn it off to check without, but no I think you’re missing the point. A good mix sounds good on a full range system and a set of small headphones
@FlatTire
@FlatTire Жыл бұрын
You don’t mix for sub woofers, but they are supposed to play those low frequencies that you can not hear or feel on your small nearfields. If you can not hear the low end of a kick you will most definite try to compensate for it while mixing, and than you end up with boomy mix in your car. So, subwoofer in studio is not to give you your HiFi stereo feel but to enable you to extend what you actually hear of feel in your low end.
@darlyngton_nyc
@darlyngton_nyc 5 жыл бұрын
FIRST VIEW AND LIKE
@relikvija2
@relikvija2 5 жыл бұрын
hot pole studio
@eastwoofer
@eastwoofer Жыл бұрын
😮Complete bullshit. You don’t need a subwoofer for mixing, and are most likely hurting your mixes by incorporating one. Professional 🎉studios in large part don’t use them (for mixing anyway). NS10’s, the industry standard for decades, only got down to 60hz, which still covers the fundementals of bass. Jarre could not be a more irrelevant voice on the subject, and dusting him off will not fly here. The strategy is to have other references-another pair of reference monitors, hifi speakers, quality headphones…your phone, these are all indespensable for mixing. Now, if you can calibrate your room and monitor + sub setup properly, I wouldn’t argue against having one as an added reference, but it still wouldn’t be necessary to have and should stay switched OFF the majority of the time.
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the opinion! Looking forward to your video on it.
@ralphieralph9176
@ralphieralph9176 3 жыл бұрын
fuck this. you should not have to tweak hz´s here and there post-production or whatever....ALL YOU NEED IS if whatever you record sounds good in your car stereo..it´s fine
@davidgoussot7553
@davidgoussot7553 3 жыл бұрын
dude, your monitors are too high ... you cant benefit from the ribbon tweeters in any way...
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@markconnell7723
@markconnell7723 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer CLEARLY he does not have a clue what he is talking about
@Nir.Arieli
@Nir.Arieli 5 жыл бұрын
just say it clear: this video IS SPONSERED by adam. it's dishonesty how you twist and not putting it straight on the table.
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
No it isn’t. There’s another video coming in a couple of weeks that IS sponsored by them, and I will be making it clear in that video.
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 5 жыл бұрын
I know it’s a bit of an odd situation, but I’ve tried to keep this video a bit vague as to “why would you have a sub of ANY brand” where the next one is a very obvious one about subwoofer placement featuring Adam speakers as a paid placement
@Nir.Arieli
@Nir.Arieli 5 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer ok. thanks for clearing it up. best regards
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