Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler - The Super Fight Breakdown

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The Modern Martial Artist

The Modern Martial Artist

3 жыл бұрын

In 1987, sports fans around the world awoke to extraordinary news. Boxing superstar Sugar Ray Leonard had come out of retirement to face off against the unstoppable Southpaw champion, Marvelous Marvin Hagler. For nearly a decade, this had been the one fight that many fans had hoped for the most. But as the years ticked by it became more and more apparent that it was the one fight they would probably never see.
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Hagler was a southpaw switch hitter with knockout power in both hands. The foundation of his style was an incredibly unique jab, thrown off of a shuffle. Gazelle hooks are rare enough, but Hagler’s gazelle jab was even more powerful as he could use it to move competitor into his left hand. This is where Hagler’s fluid ability to switch stances came in. After compelling opponent’s to move inside with his right, Hagler would cut off the ring and rapidly close distance by turn-shifting into orthodox.
Leonard’s style was inspired by Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson. His footwork was incredible, he could rebound back and forth in a wide stance, cross step around the ring to set up jabs like Ali, and seamlessly transition between the two whenever he liked.
His hand speed was unmatched, opponent’s were hit by Leonard’s second punch before they realized the first punch had landed. While he was a boxer at heart, he could turn into a puncher if he needed to, as he had against Thomas Hearns.

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@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 3 жыл бұрын
My opinion on the fight is below (SPOILERS!) First off, this was a close fight, but in a very weird, complicated way. I would say most close fights have one person winning most of the first half, and then the other fight comes back and wins most of the second half. Loma vs Lopez is a decent example of this. Another way it could be close is if the fighters go back and forth, gaining and losing momentum every few rounds. This usually makes great fights, like Ali vs Frazier 3 or Israel vs Gastelum. This fight is different, in that most of the rounds are close. Meaning that the majority of rounds could have honest judges give it to either man. Each fighter did have two rounds in which I would consider the judges blind if they scored for the other man. That being said, I feel the majority of rounds that could go to either man strongly lean towards Hagler. There are rounds like the 10th that are really even, but most I would give to Hagler. And I say that as a huge Sugar Ray fan, rate him top five ever. Here are my reason's for this conclusion: PUNCH COUNT: In preparing for this breakdown I went through the fight in slow motion twice, counting the punches that connected for each man. Compubox is two people clicking buttons in real time, so it's not very reliable. I found that they had missed a lot of punches, and they were mostly Hagler's body blows. I had Hagler usually out landing Leonard by a few punches. In that case it becomes quality of the punches, and I felt Hagler usually hit harder and cleaner. And the rounds that Hagler dominated, he really piled up the count. I counted 304 for Hagler, and 260 for Leonard. DEFENSE: Leonard was much better defensively most the time. Hagler would occasionally walk through punches to get close then miss anyways. Not a good luck. RING CONTROL: I would have given this to Leonard easily, if he hadn't taken such punishment in the clinch. In my mind, if you need to take damage to escape the corner than you are not fully in control of the ring. Other wise, Leonard's footwork and grappling would have given him this easily. I have it about equal. AGGRESSION: I would give this to Leonard. Just kidding, obviously Hagler has this one. THE INFAMOUS FLURRIES: These fooled me for years, even knowing that most the punches didn't land. I still had NO IDEA how many really weren't landing before I watched in slow motion. However, I will disagree with those saying that Leonard was throwing pitter patter punches. He managed to back Hagler up, so they must have hit pretty hard. Honestly anything going that fast will hurt really bad. THANK YOU! It's incredibly I get to make these. Leave your opinions as a comment if you'd like to debate, gonna try and get back here in a day and answer a bunch of comments.
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist 3 жыл бұрын
Fixed it thanks!
@purvalama6540
@purvalama6540 3 жыл бұрын
LONG LIVE WEED
@bensilk6431
@bensilk6431 3 жыл бұрын
How can we see It?
@Drago-tp3qb
@Drago-tp3qb 3 жыл бұрын
I scored it 113-115 for Leonard, people make it out Haggler absolutely destroyed Leonard, I just didn’t see it in the fight, maybe if I score it again I’ll see a different fight but I stand in 113-115 for Leonard for now
@bigbadladnamedalasad7071
@bigbadladnamedalasad7071 3 жыл бұрын
Hagler!
@aidenproductions4893
@aidenproductions4893 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all just take a second and appreciate this man for dissecting every single technique, strategy and exchange in this fight? One of the only channels that truly embraces the sweet science. Nothing but respect to you man, keep up the good work!
@shaunclubberlang2887
@shaunclubberlang2887 3 жыл бұрын
It's like Christmas when a new analysis comes out. Best channel for fight analysis on youtube
@johnnapier1892
@johnnapier1892 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaunclubberlang2887 Totally. I've been waiting to see this under my tree for SO long
@jcastrowhite08
@jcastrowhite08 3 жыл бұрын
Best channel
@tmoneyofficial1
@tmoneyofficial1 3 жыл бұрын
anyone know the instrumental at 4:16
@trellified
@trellified 3 жыл бұрын
Well said and I completely agree. Without this channel I would not know the nuance of stances and boxing in general without the slow motion free frame explanations for what's going on within seconds of adjustments taking place.
@FatherAndTeacherTV
@FatherAndTeacherTV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that everyone has heard the news by now. Today, Hagler passed away! RIP to the Champ!
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 3 жыл бұрын
RIP the great Hagler. such a waste. 66. great health mentally and physically he dies one day after the first vax shot. but what a life! imo after rewatching the fight w/o sound 6/4 2even Hagler. Sugar was incredible considering, but still didn't win.
@chriswick7987
@chriswick7987 3 жыл бұрын
That fight with Hearns was a beer drinking experience with my grandfather, so I’ll never forget. I rooted for Hagler, but over time I liked Hearns a little more. Anyway, Friday Night fights on HBO was a tradition
@FatherAndTeacherTV
@FatherAndTeacherTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswick7987 Time flies! I think I remember some of those Friday Night Fights on HBO. Thanks for the drive down memory lane. 😉
@FatherAndTeacherTV
@FatherAndTeacherTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@justthink5854 It's been a while since I watched that fight!
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 3 жыл бұрын
@@FatherAndTeacherTV me too. still sick about him dying. so healthy and full of the joy of living then the shot then gone!
@scottsullivanmma
@scottsullivanmma Жыл бұрын
The greatest middle weight of all time. One of the most underrated boxers in history. RIP Marvin Hagler
@TheGodfather101
@TheGodfather101 Жыл бұрын
It was the vaccine.
@centinela24542
@centinela24542 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGodfather101 Agree!
@clutchcure6821
@clutchcure6821 Жыл бұрын
@@melvinsims5379 kek Leonard sucks bro Hagler won and you know it.
@jaydebeer7251
@jaydebeer7251 Жыл бұрын
Nope, sugar ray Robinson will always be the greatest middleweight of all time... ray Leonard the greatest welterweight, Duran the greatest lightweight...
@jaydebeer7251
@jaydebeer7251 Жыл бұрын
@@clutchcure6821 nope he lost... bit like tysons loss to Douglas 😆 🤣... excuses excuses..
@burgcarli929
@burgcarli929 Жыл бұрын
The first time I watched the fight, I thought Leonard had won. With each subsequent watching, I become more convinced that Hagler won. He was busier and landed the more damaging shots. It's hard to appreciate a guy like Marvin, in his time. He was like a machine and that's not easy for fans to connect with. My admiration for him has only grown with the passage of time. He deserved better, but kudos to him for leaving on his own terms. Respect to Sugar, he showed that his guts were Hall of Fame as well.
@cubbdacrossfacecrippler
@cubbdacrossfacecrippler Жыл бұрын
I said that the first time I saw the fight. But I understand the reason Leonard won. Flash and pazzazz did it. But hagler definitely won it.
@jasonborne9839
@jasonborne9839 Жыл бұрын
And he hurt him more, you can see Lenard buckle several times and just hang on
@DeCurtaRican
@DeCurtaRican Жыл бұрын
I have always thought it was a draw. I still do.
@MoejiiOsmanTV
@MoejiiOsmanTV Жыл бұрын
Leonard won cuz he was the "golden boy" end of story. Hagler was robbed and it was a travesty to the sport. Either they call it a draw or Hagler win nothing less those judges were biased and crooked
@suavedave4188
@suavedave4188 Жыл бұрын
@@DeCurtaRican Ray is bullshit Hagler won.
@sewtom7309
@sewtom7309 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace, the most underappreciated legend ever to set foot in the ring. Stay Marvelous, Marvin Hagler.
@ZackMorris1
@ZackMorris1 2 жыл бұрын
The jab but not Sugar Rays killed Marvin. I'm not a liar.
@kittybrowneye3163
@kittybrowneye3163 2 жыл бұрын
Finals score Vax 1 Hagler... Well you know the rest thanks "the science" and commietube for censoring this reality
@sewtom7309
@sewtom7309 2 жыл бұрын
@@kittybrowneye3163 I posted this 8 months ago, why are you trying to pollute a man's legacy with petty politics? Let the man rest.
@bracefrederick5525
@bracefrederick5525 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@MrCPH22
@MrCPH22 2 жыл бұрын
Amen, Tom.
@inkognito3145
@inkognito3145 3 жыл бұрын
Marvelous Marvin Hagler. The most disciplined who not only fought against other legends but also agains the judges and boxing commisions. Rest in peace
@dwaynesbadchemicals
@dwaynesbadchemicals 2 жыл бұрын
‘80’s were the best years for boxing IMO.
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what makes us pull 4 them dudes like Pernell and Aaron Pryor
@Guide1089
@Guide1089 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Hagler beat a man's ass the entire fight and it was called a draw! He didn't play ball with the top promoters and he truly won the championship the hard way- against everyone! Then he got robbed in the Leonard fight.... Marvin Hagler is an all-time great. Always will be as long as people can watch him. Somewhere.....
@GibDozer1
@GibDozer1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guide1089 Agreed Hagler was beast, the win for Sugar was a farce!
@patrickhausenfleck9045
@patrickhausenfleck9045 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guide1089 Absolutely Delusional Comment....you all absolutely Despised Sugar Ray Leonard's OVERALL SUPERIORITY 😄
@johnatspray
@johnatspray Жыл бұрын
Just like Ali, Leonard was a master of all the little mind games, not only the ones against opponents, but also with the judges and audience. He lost the fight but won the decision and the storytelling.
@centinela24542
@centinela24542 Жыл бұрын
Agree, Judges were impressed with how many punches Leonard did againts Hagler gloves, then they gave the fight to Leonard. Shame on them! At least a spare would have been honorable.
@carlhammill5774
@carlhammill5774 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the crowd was chanting Leonard name tells you of his greatest gift and that was winning peoples hearts.
@johnatspray
@johnatspray Жыл бұрын
@@carlhammill5774 agreed 👍
@dorianrustik6880
@dorianrustik6880 Жыл бұрын
Right.....
@joshuajarod1909
@joshuajarod1909 Жыл бұрын
​@melvinsims5379 It's not undisputed, it's highly disputed even to this day.
@coreyshort9461
@coreyshort9461 Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Mr Hagler, I enjoyed every fight I was blessed to see you fight. We all know you won the fight!
@eduardolinan1803
@eduardolinan1803 Жыл бұрын
Hagler won this fight from here to china.
@younggod3906
@younggod3906 Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@harryharry3193
@harryharry3193 Жыл бұрын
I remember this fight. I always will. Marvelous always was......and will remain....MR MARVELOUS MARVIN
@theman4884
@theman4884 Жыл бұрын
@@eduardolinan1803 I agree. I have scored the fight a couple times myself. Being a gracious to Leonard as possible and still had Hagler winning.
@TrpleAgnt2011
@TrpleAgnt2011 Жыл бұрын
Hagler might have won the fight, another round or two is all he needed.
@HeyyyJude
@HeyyyJude 3 жыл бұрын
“Sure you can. Have another beer” the disrespect 😂
@hoop6988
@hoop6988 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard that I was cracking. 😂
@DareToWonder
@DareToWonder 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Fox didn't know who LEonard is...?
@Zathien
@Zathien 3 жыл бұрын
@@DareToWonder on imdb it says they were friends that attended boxing matches.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@shawnlo8085
@shawnlo8085 3 жыл бұрын
@Roughman : Stop making me spit my beer out , Lol . Smh !!
@mateojimenez5905
@mateojimenez5905 3 жыл бұрын
Hagler is my favorite fighter of all time
@joebroart
@joebroart 3 жыл бұрын
Same. One of my favs
@crimson3194
@crimson3194 3 жыл бұрын
The ggg of his era
@jesseg94
@jesseg94 3 жыл бұрын
Same, him and Duran are my top two.
@ryanhershberger4740
@ryanhershberger4740 3 жыл бұрын
@@crimson3194 no not ggg. Ggg ain’t shit.
@benitosotelo444
@benitosotelo444 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhershberger4740 you're crazy
@filmworksusa
@filmworksusa Жыл бұрын
For 35 years, I thought Marvelous Marvin was robbed - and this excellent and insightful breakdown hasn't changed that opinion. But what it has done is show me Leonard's level of genius, even if I still feel the 'genius' had more to do with psychology than 'boxing' (although his boxing skills can't be denied). When I saw the fight all those years ago, his showboating infuriated me almost as much as it did Hagler - and it still does - but I have to respect that he understood how to use the crowd and influence the judges. Thank you for these great 'Fight Explained' videos.
@clutchcure6821
@clutchcure6821 Жыл бұрын
he was still robbed though.
@michaelmcnamara4838
@michaelmcnamara4838 Жыл бұрын
Hagler won the fight.. Never got the decision.. but won the fight. End of..
@icarus8471
@icarus8471 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. But also Leonard was just popular and he knew how to use it. It is funny but he started to lose that popularity with Hearns II when people really started to see through his antics and began to resent it. His crowd-swaying tactics were pretty crude and easy to spot.
@oqihouqiop
@oqihouqiop 4 ай бұрын
Leondard was an amazing sell but Hagler won the fight and the boxing match
@CityBoy5705
@CityBoy5705 Ай бұрын
​@@michaelmcnamara4838Totally Agree 👍
@bryandungee1029
@bryandungee1029 Жыл бұрын
Leonard said "I wasn't really trying to steal rounds... I was keeping the rounds close trying to pile up points late in the rounds..." that's literally the definition of trying to steal rounds lol
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
I think he meant he was trying to keep the entire round close and then pile up points at end. Instead of losing the round and then stealing it at the end with flashes punches
@bryandungee1029
@bryandungee1029 Жыл бұрын
@@el34glo59 ... u realized u said the same thing I said???
@vernonleewarren280
@vernonleewarren280 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@scowlistic
@scowlistic Жыл бұрын
I wasn't trying to steal this Snickers, I just ate it & walked out without paying for it.
@kennethanderson-wd2cx
@kennethanderson-wd2cx Ай бұрын
It’s not stealing if it’s even until you win it.
@MozartDylan
@MozartDylan 3 жыл бұрын
Leonard, Hagler, Hearns & Duran...What an Era of Boxing
@eac1235
@eac1235 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Benitez, he fought 3 of the 4.
@MozartDylan
@MozartDylan 3 жыл бұрын
@@eac1235 no doubt he was big time just as was Aaron Pryor
@eac1235
@eac1235 3 жыл бұрын
@@MozartDylan If Aaron had stayed away from drugs I believe he would be legendary.
@MozartDylan
@MozartDylan 3 жыл бұрын
@@eac1235 i know so many what ifs in boxing and that is one of them. They didn't call him the modern day Henry Armstrong for nothing.
@tmoneyofficial1
@tmoneyofficial1 3 жыл бұрын
anyone know the instrumental at 4:16
@ivankeithly
@ivankeithly 3 жыл бұрын
first Leon Spinks, now Marvelous Marvin Hagler, we lost two warriors this year, may they rest in peace.
@jcas4640
@jcas4640 3 жыл бұрын
hank arron all to side effects of vaccine
@ecosby100
@ecosby100 3 жыл бұрын
Is that true though ?
@smody4393
@smody4393 3 жыл бұрын
What side effects?
@jcas4640
@jcas4640 3 жыл бұрын
Read about it
@tonylove4800
@tonylove4800 3 жыл бұрын
Very funny.
@reydavidbarriga3212
@reydavidbarriga3212 Жыл бұрын
In the history of boxing there has always been moments of shame. This is a perfect example of that. Marvelous Marvin Hagler the obvious winner of this fight. God Rest Champ.
@jaobille79
@jaobille79 11 ай бұрын
"obvious" is reaching. Sugar Ray schooled him
@4houndswhoheal479
@4houndswhoheal479 10 ай бұрын
@@jaobille79 schooled him in the art of fixing fights. Hearns fight was fixed. BOTH his fights w Duran were shameful.
@perturbedxtirade7428
@perturbedxtirade7428 10 ай бұрын
​@@jaobille79are we watching the same analysis? He was a clown this fight.
@jaydebeer7251
@jaydebeer7251 8 ай бұрын
No way ray should of lasted the distance, so him going the full 12 and not getting hurt was a win... haglar is very lucky ray showed him he should retire, can you imagine what his next opponent would of done to him...
@stoneys.1194
@stoneys.1194 8 ай бұрын
It really doesn't matter,can't we all just agree that this time was best middle weight division ( Hagler, Suga Ray, Hearne, Duran n even Benitez) of all time?? It was about respect, not about getting paid
@joseyeastwood
@joseyeastwood Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this fight thinking it was at least a draw i honestly didn't think Ray could beat him that guy was a absolute beast great fight Rest In Peace Marvelous Marvin Hagler 🥊
@Jbf-76
@Jbf-76 Жыл бұрын
Facts.... It was a complete sham. Everyone knows it outside of Leonard fanboys, and they are in denial.
@muflihahmed4753
@muflihahmed4753 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler he died today aged 66 years old. A legend of the sport
@howardroark3670
@howardroark3670 3 жыл бұрын
And of all things. It was a jab that got him.
@duaneholcomb8408
@duaneholcomb8408 3 жыл бұрын
Gone too soon. Wasn't that old. Rip champ
@pinehawk9600
@pinehawk9600 2 жыл бұрын
@@howardroark3670 yep
@inthemaze7441
@inthemaze7441 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first I've heard this. Its so fucking sad. What happened to him? Such a great athlete.
@inthemaze7441
@inthemaze7441 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. I looked it up and believe Hearns.
@aidanbacon6043
@aidanbacon6043 3 жыл бұрын
Finally. The finale every has waited for.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 3 жыл бұрын
Truly.
@Ott3r5losh
@Ott3r5losh 3 жыл бұрын
One
@cncsphere
@cncsphere Жыл бұрын
To me, Leonard really played it smart by treating Hagler with the utmost respect in the press and any interactions before the fight. I believe he did absolutely everything to not give Hagler a reason to hate him going in (I was surprised to hear the commentary that Hagler had in fact hated him for a long time). At any rate, Leonard's show of respect toward Hagler seemed to cause Hagler to start off slower than he normally would. Well, maybe it was only part of the reason, but Hagler didn't seem to come out blazing like usual. I think had he come out stronger like with other opponents, the outcome would have been different. At the end, it was clear that Hagler could have gone several more rounds whereas they were holding Leonard up after the 12th round - Leonard was absolutely spent. I am a big fan of Leonard, so I like seeing him win, but man it was close. Btw, it was the first time I heard that it was Hagler that turned down a rematch - I would have expected it would have been Leonard. Maybe Leonard ended up doing more psychological damage?
@mauriceosullivan6832
@mauriceosullivan6832 Жыл бұрын
Are you a boxing writer?, if not ? then you should be.
@ajaj3459
@ajaj3459 Жыл бұрын
That's the problem isn't it? Leonard gave it all and was spent at the end. Hagler had more energy left at the end. So whatdaya gonna do with that energy? Go for a run after the fight? As you said, things may been different if Hagler put it all out there from beginning to end. But his strategy worked against him, and he underestimated this great, but smaller welterweight turned middleweight.
@Keepdapocket
@Keepdapocket Жыл бұрын
@@ajaj3459 bingo. Sugar was smaller, AND hadn’t fought in 5 years. Literally no fighting at all. The loss in on Marvin. My coach in high school said, “if you play a team that sucks, show them that they suck from the first whistle!!”. Marvin let a man who hasn’t fought so this. Marvin said he was worried about the judges, but he fought the opposite.
@carlhammill5774
@carlhammill5774 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the crowd was chanting Leonard name tells you of his greatest gift and that was winning peoples hearts.
@joekavanagh7171
@joekavanagh7171 3 жыл бұрын
Marvin Hagler, the people's champion, regardless of what the judges thought.
@hunkallgood73
@hunkallgood73 3 жыл бұрын
Except the judges opinions are the ones that count in the books and bank.
@thestoebz
@thestoebz 3 жыл бұрын
@@hunkallgood73 who cares. Anyone who is versed in boxing knows Hagler won. Boxing is corrupt, but the truth isn't.
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen 3 жыл бұрын
@@thestoebz Except he didn't win. Leonard took Hagler's best and won the fight. Period. Trump didn't win the election, Hagler didn't win this fight. Done.
@thestoebz
@thestoebz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dorelaxen keep telling yourself that
@thestoebz
@thestoebz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AH-ng7zt jealous? Uhhh... What?
@EmotoZ
@EmotoZ 3 жыл бұрын
Irrespective of the outcome, both proved they are immortal monsters in the ring. What a war.
@franjes9999
@franjes9999 2 жыл бұрын
They're both great but the fact people point to this fight as proof Leonard is greater is irritating because I think that its a clear win for Hagler and its been looked back on by alot of people in a similar light
@patrickhausenfleck9045
@patrickhausenfleck9045 2 жыл бұрын
A more logical Comment👍
@katafadasian
@katafadasian 2 жыл бұрын
@@addounsamiyoucef1999 Imagine being that clueless
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 2 жыл бұрын
@@addounsamiyoucef1999 50% true. This fight I'd rate a draw.
@biscobisco1882
@biscobisco1882 2 жыл бұрын
@@franjes9999 Except there's nothing 'clear' about it - it was an insanely close fight, where both guys had a bunch of success, ate big shots like Tic-Tacs and worked at a blazing pace - and everyone who definitively picks a side seems to do so with ridiculous hyperbole. Pro-Marvin? "Marvin walked through all Sugar's pussy lovetaps, rocked him with every punch, nearly finished him (despite 0 knockdowns) and had him running scared the whole fight!" Pro-Leonard? "Leonard styled all over this idiot, never looked like he wasn't in control of the fight, had him swinging at air and constantly tattoo'd Hagler with 12-punch combos while he just covered up and stood there." Neither of these takes is even remotely close to being true.
@showme443
@showme443 Жыл бұрын
Hagler isn't talked about enough as one of the greats. RIP Marvelous
@moneymoneyman32
@moneymoneyman32 Жыл бұрын
He is the greatest middle weight period all his 3 loses were robbery's
@toucheturtle3840
@toucheturtle3840 Жыл бұрын
I was a Hagler fan, but Leonard was smart. Still bright as a button to this day. RIP Marvin.
@jeffreyweston900
@jeffreyweston900 3 жыл бұрын
Rip to one of the greatest warriors to ever step foot in the ring...Marvelous Marvin Hagler
@loreirl9588
@loreirl9588 3 жыл бұрын
Hagler was an absolute warrior, one of my favorite boxers of all time
@tonyb9735
@tonyb9735 3 жыл бұрын
Surely one of everybody's favourite boxers. How could he not be?
@brucewayne3602
@brucewayne3602 3 жыл бұрын
"absolute warrior" accurate portrayal ... Marvin won this fight !!!
@jjstratford
@jjstratford Жыл бұрын
The countenance of each fighter in the corner after the 5th was the most revealing moment of the entire fight, but Leonard did, indeed, show a depth of heart and will that some people refused to believe he had. I’m Team Hagler, but I’m also Team Leonard. Two LEGENDS and opposing warriors whose involvement in the Four Kings era of the Middleweight division gave us some of the greatest fights of… EVER. OF. EVER.
@chameleonpt
@chameleonpt Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing breakdown. Can't even imagine how long these take to do 🙇‍♂️
@TommyButtSeks
@TommyButtSeks 3 жыл бұрын
I got this recommended after Marvin Hagler passed away. May he rest in piece.
@bradcampbell5766
@bradcampbell5766 3 жыл бұрын
A victim of the shot in the arm!
@malcolmcooper4430
@malcolmcooper4430 3 жыл бұрын
Peace
@reggie3691
@reggie3691 3 жыл бұрын
To my friend Marvin Hagler sorry to hear of your passing. Way to soon for the Greatest Middle Weaight ever.
@johnosullivan6439
@johnosullivan6439 2 жыл бұрын
The record books say Sugar Ray won, but to me there's never been any question about it - Marvelous Marvin Hagler won that fight. 2 of the judges were swayed by Leonard's occasional flashy combos at the end of rounds - and the guy who scored it 118-113 for Leonard should've been barred from judging for life.
@dyschromotopia
@dyschromotopia 2 жыл бұрын
The guy you're referring to scored it 118-110 to SRL, not 118-113.
@michaelmira-lopez1660
@michaelmira-lopez1660 2 жыл бұрын
@@dyschromotopia that's even worse 😂
@leewilliams2763
@leewilliams2763 2 жыл бұрын
never. sugar Ray completely outclassed hagler. making hagler miss made hagler look very amateur. at the end of the fight hagler was exhausted. Ray did an Ali on hagler
@tdog1143
@tdog1143 2 жыл бұрын
@@leewilliams2763 that’s just not true
@randyclingon1645
@randyclingon1645 2 жыл бұрын
@@tdog1143 yes it true he was out boxed
@michaelevans9675
@michaelevans9675 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this channel. Keep breaking down the great fights! These videos are so well done.
@moetivation1
@moetivation1 Жыл бұрын
Man, although this is an older video.....I must say you are a master of your craft. The way you broke down every punch landed, every swing and miss, every duck and weave...bro I don't think anyone is better at this than you are. You broke down the fight and actually showed a clear winner in my opinion. It's like you parted the clouds and showed a perfect visual of the sun. Lol I know im getting carried away. I look forward to watching your other videos. Great job man 👏. And this is how I became a subscriber lol.
@judowrestlerka
@judowrestlerka 2 жыл бұрын
I watched Hagler BEAT Sugar Ray. It was amazing. That 118-110 score was RETARDED. It was truly a situation where the judges saw a different fight than the boxers.
@bluntforcetrauma8192
@bluntforcetrauma8192 2 жыл бұрын
You are insane. Sugar Ray beat the hell out of Hagler.
@judowrestlerka
@judowrestlerka 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluntforcetrauma8192 learn something about boxing and watch that fight a few more times. Leonard didn't land anything CLOSE to the shots that Hagler did and the ONLY THING that gave him that fight was his showboatimg and his ability to piss Marvin off because he WOULDNT engage him. Thats. It. Teddy Atlas.
@4967eljefe
@4967eljefe 2 жыл бұрын
Ray was on his bike the whole fight not to mention his excessive holding.
@judowrestlerka
@judowrestlerka 2 жыл бұрын
35 years later and I was the only one here who ACTUALLY WATCHED this fight and say Hagler win and the Judges rob him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MrGnastygnate
@MrGnastygnate 2 жыл бұрын
You said a bad word. People aren’t allowed to use the R word anymore.
@LMLR187
@LMLR187 3 жыл бұрын
Once again I remember saying how this fight epitomized the concept of "quiet offense." You could see Hagler pummeling Leonard from the middle rounds on but it gathered little attention from the crowd. Meanwhile Leonard combining smoke and mirrors with occasional real fighting was able to hold an already captive audience in the palm of his hand. I'm telling you the same thing happened again to GGG when he fought Canelo in their middleweight championship fights.
@stevengibbs8651
@stevengibbs8651 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the crowd was surprised that Sugar Ray lasted that long. Sugar Ray stole a number of rounds by dancing and with theatrics in the last 30 seconds of rounds.
@dalebecause2467
@dalebecause2467 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevengibbs8651 It was really pathetic.....a bad joke. Judges GAVE Haglers championship away.....
@anantambisht4895
@anantambisht4895 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalebecause2467 true
@Charizard24682
@Charizard24682 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalebecause2467 ....? that's literally the point??? boxing isnt just about who can extend their fist out faster and harder, its about every single thing together. physically obviously hagler won, but combining every single aspect of boxing leonard just barely edges it out
@dalebecause2467
@dalebecause2467 2 жыл бұрын
@@Charizard24682 Blah, blah and more blah...
@DeeNice681
@DeeNice681 Жыл бұрын
The more and more the years go by, the more people realize Marvin won the fight!
@persiangulfwarvet
@persiangulfwarvet Жыл бұрын
Love your breakdowns... truly remarkable work. Thank You!
@brockgeorge777
@brockgeorge777 2 жыл бұрын
Hagler’s mistake-besides coming out orthodox and thus throwing away a couple of rounds-was allowing Leonard the ring he wanted. If SRL was forced to fight in closer throughout the match; MM would have punched him into oblivion before it could end.
@seanfromdaheights1508
@seanfromdaheights1508 Жыл бұрын
Exactly . The biggest mistake in boxing history . His ego tho ....🙄
@22ucespatriotwarrior88
@22ucespatriotwarrior88 Жыл бұрын
Hagler fan and I need to re watch it but to keep Ray in a Box would be exceptionally hard act! Boy I loved Hagler and that division
@Jbf-76
@Jbf-76 Жыл бұрын
Rays exact words.. Give me lighter gloves (Jesus Christ), the biggest ring imaginable, and 12 rounds instead of 15, or I’m not signing. Regardless, as this video shows Hagler won, and anyone who isn’t a Leonard fanboy knows it. Whatever, it still triggers me. Carry on.
@soulfiftyseven
@soulfiftyseven Жыл бұрын
and he agreed to 12 rounds instead of 15. Even with that big ring Leonard wasn't going to make three more rounds
@jayvenwilson1238
@jayvenwilson1238 Жыл бұрын
And shortening the rounds from 15 To 12
@Thunderous117
@Thunderous117 3 жыл бұрын
In video game terms Hagler was rarely the player character, he wasn’t often the guy rooted to win and often got screwed by judges but man he was a fantastic opponent, in an era of great boxers he was a champion and fought his way to the top in a way you can’t help but respect the hell out of. Not to mention in fights like the War when he did get the spotlight he proved himself a brutal and brilliant fighter. Thanks for another incredible video!
@davidreid1390
@davidreid1390 2 жыл бұрын
Sad that it took him 50 plus fights to get a title shot. He may have been the most avoided MW in history.
@patrickhausenfleck9045
@patrickhausenfleck9045 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it that Hagler Fanboys& Girls ..never talk about Hagler at the age of 29(in his PRIME) getting schooled by a former 135 pound king...who had Once Said "NO MAS" and had looked like crap in getting a 10 Rd. Loss laid on him by a club fighter (Kirkland Lang)....That man was ROBERTO DURAN...a fighter that was able to show us HAGLERS ineptness. Not to mention Hagler and his Handlers wanting him to stay away from Mike "the Body Snatcher" McCallum??????????
@tomlyden3717
@tomlyden3717 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhausenfleck9045 Jeez Pat I came on here to see the fight breakdown which in my view was a fair interpretation of the fight, most people posting fairly positive comments about both fighters but you seem to be pretty bitter towards MMH what's your beef?? We are all entitled to our opinion bud but you seem angry what he do to upset you??
@patrickhausenfleck9045
@patrickhausenfleck9045 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomlyden3717 Hey Tom...why don't you pose that ? To Mike McCallum???
@patrickhausenfleck9045
@patrickhausenfleck9045 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomlyden3717 I have nothing against Marvin Hagler...I just feel that because a large percentage keep denying Sugar Ray Leonard's Dominance over Hagler(Greater SKill Set) And the OverWhelming fact that Leonard pulled it off while physically being far less than 100%....Some have to show sides of Marvin that can rationalize why Leonard was able to pull off the Upset.
@ThePrefabsuperstar
@ThePrefabsuperstar Жыл бұрын
Possibly the best breakdown I've ever seen of the fight. I concur with your opinion, but you've gone to a different level of understanding, way beyond what I knew.
@sneakypeete
@sneakypeete Жыл бұрын
Superb work! An effort worthy of the champions that you chronicle. Excellent Analysis.
@ifixbones
@ifixbones 3 жыл бұрын
Marvin Hagler, extreme warrior and supreme boxer, Rest in Eternal Peace.
@Willem100
@Willem100 3 жыл бұрын
"I wasn't trying to steal rounds" Yeah, he was trying to steal the fight. And he did.
@censari544
@censari544 3 жыл бұрын
He basically said he was stealing the rounds. “I was tryna make the rounds close and competitive and get the edge in the last 30 seconds”
@skunk12
@skunk12 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a Bo Jiden quote?
@biomadnesstrip
@biomadnesstrip 3 жыл бұрын
Hate the game not the gamer. If judges decide that you won by points you cant do anything about It, or just ask to the boxing federations to change the rules
@sakketin
@sakketin 3 жыл бұрын
Correction: Leonard was trying to win the fight, and he did.
@skunk12
@skunk12 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakketin no, he was awarded the decision, but he didnt win the fight.
@dctbass
@dctbass 2 ай бұрын
Very early in the fight I think Hagler realised that there was no prospect of Leonard's punches hurting or stopping him. However, I think Hagler then made the mistake of thinking that because the punches weren't hurting him, they weren't scoring and/or impressing the judges. They were.
@casahilchoudhary
@casahilchoudhary Жыл бұрын
Dogfight, with the meanest dog in the yard 😂 That line was epic 🔥🔥🔥❤️
@puddnheadwilson2956
@puddnheadwilson2956 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler. You were the best of all time. And a nice man outside the ring to boot. Class act all the way.
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 3 жыл бұрын
True, unlike Leonard with his cocky full of himself attitude.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 3 жыл бұрын
Watched this here in England as an 18 year old, my brither was an decent amatuer at this juncture and I'd watched boxing since the late 70s. Absolutely shocked that leonard got the decision, still think this was one of the biggest miss-calls for a huge fight.
@pinehawk9600
@pinehawk9600 2 жыл бұрын
Me too... cost me 500.00 dollars
@chadcloer6
@chadcloer6 2 жыл бұрын
💯 - Marvin Hagler beat Sugar Ray.
@cavemantero
@cavemantero 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinehawk9600 that's the point...most people bet on underdogs
@thewillz
@thewillz 2 жыл бұрын
@@___Anakin.Skywalker no, he didn't, ynotnilknarf nailed it
@sjsouljah7368
@sjsouljah7368 2 жыл бұрын
You know zilch about boxing. Slow azz Hagler got outclassed. Leonard put on a clinic!
@Creatordornacustor
@Creatordornacustor 2 жыл бұрын
I can't watch videos now without your amazing commentary!!!😉 You are so going good !
@bellslinki
@bellslinki Жыл бұрын
I was huge Hagler fan RIP, and hadnt really any knowledge of Leonard. But after this fight i became i huge Leonard fan. Just the fact he survived after 5 years out the ring and moving up a weight to fight the most brutal fighter of that era. I thought Hagler won on the night but rewatching i appreciated more what Leonard did that night. i have revisited this fight by far more than any other because its very inspirational and i still feel the buzz that surrounded that fight.
@skouskos8857
@skouskos8857 3 жыл бұрын
"I wasn't stealing rounds. I made it close and then....stole points with flurries."
@jakepalmer4690
@jakepalmer4690 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt steal rounds or points, he was fighting to the best of his ability
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse 2 жыл бұрын
That's like saying "the sea isn't full of water, it's just full of particles where there are twice as many hydrogen than oxygen...
@GibDozer1
@GibDozer1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakepalmer4690 Please...Watch the whole fight not a highlight video, see if you still think that. Hagler destroyed him. Leonard danced around and threw puches in the last 20 seconds of each round. The fight was ridiculous. Sugar won because he was more popular and could take a beating.
@jakepalmer4690
@jakepalmer4690 2 жыл бұрын
@@GibDozer1 I agree but Leonard wasn't trying to throw the fight, it was on the judges not him
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 2 жыл бұрын
@@GibDozer1 Destroyed? Stop
@cfairfax85
@cfairfax85 2 ай бұрын
I love this channel. Respect to all the work put into putting this together.
@extramile150
@extramile150 Жыл бұрын
awesome ...from start to finish. well done video that goes right to the DNA of this fight. thanks for posting.
@Bismarck.1871
@Bismarck.1871 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hagler fan I remember how upset I was when Leonard was pronounced the winner. I know Hagler won and is the greatest middleweight fighter of all times.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 2 жыл бұрын
Leonard won.
@philip851
@philip851 Жыл бұрын
@@yankee2666 As a Leonard fan who was screaming with joy at the time...I know he lost
@rafaelramirez1507
@rafaelramirez1507 Жыл бұрын
@@yankee2666 Hagler got gyped
@LAStreetPreacher
@LAStreetPreacher Жыл бұрын
Jose- But could he beat Canelo?
@Bismarck.1871
@Bismarck.1871 Жыл бұрын
@@LAStreetPreacher He most certainly would.
@howardwalck3000
@howardwalck3000 2 жыл бұрын
He fought all the legends at the time never ducked anyone was a legend
@TravelingwithValeman77
@TravelingwithValeman77 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Unlike Mayweather!
@Gobbledygookerisselfish
@Gobbledygookerisselfish Жыл бұрын
@@TravelingwithValeman77 who did he duck?
@TravelingwithValeman77
@TravelingwithValeman77 Жыл бұрын
@@Gobbledygookerisselfish he ducked Pacquiao for almost a decade.
@Gobbledygookerisselfish
@Gobbledygookerisselfish Жыл бұрын
@@TravelingwithValeman77 floyd is older than manny dude
@Gobbledygookerisselfish
@Gobbledygookerisselfish Жыл бұрын
@@TravelingwithValeman77 always finding some way to bring floyd mayweather down
@kieronjdonovan
@kieronjdonovan Жыл бұрын
If you close your eyes you could almost imagine it’s two gladiators going at it because the description and passion put into these videos really brings the action to life. Painting a story that’s engaging and keeping up with the pace of the fight itself.Brilliant.
@jeffreylarson8533
@jeffreylarson8533 11 ай бұрын
I boxed for 8 years as a youth and came from a boxing family; your detailed observations, during this video and others, are amazing. Well Done, Sir.
@glenkeller3
@glenkeller3 3 жыл бұрын
Marvin Hagler was a no-nonsense, straight shooter that is rarely seen these days. And he had his faults as all men do. But his spirit as a man exceeded his spirit as a boxer. RIP Marvelous. God’s Speed.
@jeffreymelendez8497
@jeffreymelendez8497 2 жыл бұрын
IF you watched the whole fight you know Hagler won.
@michaelhawkins3256
@michaelhawkins3256 2 жыл бұрын
💯 exactly 💯👏🙌👌
@johnjohnson9182
@johnjohnson9182 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreymelendez8497 👍 agreed. Wish he just stuck at his jab more. Still think he won though!
@skouskos8857
@skouskos8857 3 жыл бұрын
Marvin Hagler passed away today. What a great man, he will stay in the memories of all boxing fans as one of the best boxers of all time.
@FourTreDubbCity
@FourTreDubbCity 11 ай бұрын
Nice vid I lived thru it. Great to see it broke down for future fans. New sub
@michaelhasl8762
@michaelhasl8762 Жыл бұрын
Hot damned this commentary is really awesome! Appreciate the work! Really great stuff!!
@thedisturbedpreist
@thedisturbedpreist 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of low blows you notice when you rewatch over and over
@vinkelitz
@vinkelitz 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I just ate lunch while watching the actual fight with Leonard and Hagler, and this video comes out. Perfect timing
@Torgo1969
@Torgo1969 3 жыл бұрын
With that timing, have you got any investment tips?
@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom
@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom 3 жыл бұрын
They robbed Hagler
@allarkuus7661
@allarkuus7661 3 жыл бұрын
Man, it was my birthday and it came out 😀
@hasanx4637
@hasanx4637 3 жыл бұрын
@@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom after the fight?
@snakethepeg7828
@snakethepeg7828 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic soundtrack and narration. This video gave me chills. Both men left a piece of their sould in that Ring
@davidh.8798
@davidh.8798 Жыл бұрын
Great vid & interesting comments. Thanks for posting.
@henchlol1247
@henchlol1247 3 жыл бұрын
Leonard replied to a comment of mine on ig earlier today and bro it made my day just the day before evander holyfield did the same
@deicide7095
@deicide7095 3 жыл бұрын
Really?
@corruptedredemption736
@corruptedredemption736 3 жыл бұрын
proof or it didnt happen
@choice12ozborne
@choice12ozborne 3 жыл бұрын
Hope that Doesn't mess with your eyes. Hagler Got this one I love Sugar Ray Leonard. I'm a firm believer If Floyd Mayweather was a fighter , Back in those days with All of those great welterweight at once, The only way he would be undefeated is if he didn't fight them all . Duran, Leonard, Thomas hearns would have been a huge problem with those long arms. Pretty sure Marvin Hadley would have come down To a catch weight 1 54 just like Canelo did. If Canelo Alvarez went down to 154 to fight Floyd again he would not Floyd out. Hes gotten so freaking much better since that fight against Floyd. I don't feat Floyd Mayweather would step in the ring with Canelo now at A154 catch weight. Do you? Canelo was 20 years old right? Yes he had tons of fights under his belt but I had never heard of the guy before except for Julio Cesar Chavez junior versus Canelo Alvarez.
@choice12ozborne
@choice12ozborne 3 жыл бұрын
@@corruptedredemption736 Lol
@choice12ozborne
@choice12ozborne 3 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt it because they Do comment randomly. We still need proof more than your lips or in this Case your fingertips. Just kidding Lol🙏👍✌💯
@WhatWillCome
@WhatWillCome 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! I always thought Hagler won this fight, or at least a draw. But I never saw Leonard wining here, despite his great boxing attributes. Sometimes I can not believe how people and judges can not see when boxers like Leonard or Mayweather throw like 9-10 punches in a row, but only connect 1or 2! the majority land on gloves or an arm or the air..... (another case is Mayweather-Pacquio , there's no way Mayweather won here) Anyway, R.I.P. Marvelous
@biscobisco1882
@biscobisco1882 2 жыл бұрын
"Leonard or Mayweather throw like 9-10 punches in a row, but only connect 1or 2!" Yeah, but that still counts and even the blocked punches are better than nothing. If you land multiple flurries like that, you're going to rack up points, and there's no guarantee the other guy is keeping up with those 2 landed punches at a time either.
@trevorboyer2731
@trevorboyer2731 2 жыл бұрын
@@biscobisco1882 that's a false statement from every possible way of looking at it. Defense is one of the criteria of scoring a boxing match, on equal footing with "effective" aggression. Meaning that throwing 100 punches a round and connecting with 5 should lose to the guy throwing 20 and landing 5 due to the aggression not being effective and the defense controlling the action. A great example of this is Willie Pep who won a round on all 3 cards without throwing a punch in the round.
@biscobisco1882
@biscobisco1882 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorboyer2731 Your thoughts on effective aggression are idiotic. It's not EFFICIENT aggression you dope, effective aggression is judged by who attacks more, and puts the other guy von the defensive, regardless of cleanliness of punching. If it had anything to do with scoring legal blows, effective aggression would simply be determined by who lands more punches, and there would be no need for a separate criterion for it. Your Willie Pep example sucks too, because it was in 1946 and no fucking footage of it exists, and newspapers at the time described the round in question as a slugfest. At least check his Wiki before you go repeating stupid memes.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, you were watching the fighter you wanted to win. Leonard clearly won this fight. Learn how to score a fight, then view it again.
@ajaj3459
@ajaj3459 Жыл бұрын
And "blocked punches" can still cause damage, that's why judges give it some weight. Plenty of fighters have been knocked out despite "blocking" the punch. That was George Foreman's specialty!
@AnthonyWitherspoon-xu5no
@AnthonyWitherspoon-xu5no Ай бұрын
Thank you, David for your complete breakdown of Hagler vs Leonard.
@WhelmedButReady
@WhelmedButReady 3 жыл бұрын
I've only seen the fight one time all the way through. Personally, I had Leonard over Hagler by only a round. That being said, I fault no one who thinks Hagler won. Even through watching this video I found myself questioning if I too was persuaded by Leonard's showboating and strong finishes to each round. One day I'll go back and perhaps change my mind. But man, what a fight.
@KVSWF
@KVSWF 3 жыл бұрын
This. It's a fight you can watch 100 times and 50 times you're convinced Hagler won... the other 50 convinced Leonard won.
@Drago-tp3qb
@Drago-tp3qb 3 жыл бұрын
@@KVSWF truly a beautiful aspect of boxing
@hannibalbeats24
@hannibalbeats24 3 жыл бұрын
This fight was no different than ggg vs Canelo 1
@KVSWF
@KVSWF 3 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Joshua How odd. When I read the wiki on this fight on boxrec.com, members of the press and other boxing professionals score Hagler: 26-22 with seven others seeing it as a draw.
@matepavic6929
@matepavic6929 3 жыл бұрын
Many experts feel that Hagler won, or at least it was a draw.
@alexcontreras8247
@alexcontreras8247 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing breakdown of one of my favorite fights ever! I have always been a Leonard fan and watched the fight believing he won. This breakdown has changed my opinion. Great job! Rip Marvelous Marvin Hagler! I actually shed a tear when I found out about his death.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 2 жыл бұрын
Leonard won.
@jaywalker4097
@jaywalker4097 Жыл бұрын
Man ur the best for this. U break the science down like no other. I watch every upload. I was a kid when this fight happened but I remember it. What a time to be alive. The 80s was so mystical so innocent and fun. Great Fight. And great analysis my guy💯💯💯🥊
@realryal8317
@realryal8317 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. It articulates a hugely complex fight to score and makes transparent what hagler felt after the fight imo.
@jacobscott9732
@jacobscott9732 3 жыл бұрын
„I wasn’t trying to steal rounds“. Sure Ray. Sure Ray.
@jakepalmer4690
@jakepalmer4690 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt steal rounds, dont blame Ray for the judges decision
@Crazyfool12
@Crazyfool12 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakepalmer4690 your a ray nuthugger
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crazyfool12 What? Bro stealing rounds isn't that bad of a thing. And the judges make tbe decisions
@DarkW0lverine
@DarkW0lverine 3 жыл бұрын
As great as both men are, it's an absolute squeaker, but by a microscopic margin - gotta give it to Marvelous Marv
@victormorales3367
@victormorales3367 Жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Marvin. I remember this fight. You edged him
@sergiomontano1685
@sergiomontano1685 Жыл бұрын
Wow love your videos man keepem commin
@removelimitbreak7524
@removelimitbreak7524 2 жыл бұрын
Man I've come back to watch this many times. And it never gets old. I love boxing because of fights like this. I could watch these breakdowns for hours.
@zachariahx1727
@zachariahx1727 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually crying during the end of this fight. I was a huge sugar ray fan, and a very young kid for the record. And i knew Hagler won the fight. I couldnt believe when they announced Leonard the winner. From that moment i knew you couldnt leave anything up to the judges. Ironically years later my cousin thru marriage Terrible Terry Norris would be the one to retire Leonard for good. Great breakdown. Have you done the Hagler Hearns fight. Im gonna check your channel. Thanks for the nostalgia
@rockbigfoot5531
@rockbigfoot5531 Жыл бұрын
You don't win by just being the agresser, he was out smarted, you are not a true sugar ray fan
@zachariahx1727
@zachariahx1727 Жыл бұрын
@@rockbigfoot5531 I was like 8 years old homie. I even said that in my original comment
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't know about that man. I think Leonard won
@rockbigfoot5531
@rockbigfoot5531 Жыл бұрын
@@el34glo59 agreed
@zachariahx1727
@zachariahx1727 Жыл бұрын
Yall win bro. All of you. Im a terrible boxing fan and i dont know shit. I was just commenting on something that happened a long time ago the way i remembered it. I enjoyed the video but you keyboard warriors have defeated me so i will go hide in shame
@mikilynne4558
@mikilynne4558 Жыл бұрын
One of he most amazing fights I've ever seen. They swapped styles midway through the fight. Unreal.
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter Жыл бұрын
Boxing at its best. And an expert narration to help us interpret this complex battle.
@chenzenzo
@chenzenzo 3 жыл бұрын
It's so extremely rare to see a fighter win after moving backwards for the duration of a match.
@atifmir7409
@atifmir7409 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and breakdown of such an iconic fight. You not only thoroughly explained the fight in detail but also added the psychological and mental side of it too, which gives you a clearer picture.
@kitdaberserker555
@kitdaberserker555 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful analysis my brother.
@ianmarsden1130
@ianmarsden1130 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Marvin. And more thanks than I can express for those great fights.
@doccholo905
@doccholo905 3 жыл бұрын
Sugar vs The Marvelous. One of the best fights
@marcoestiercol6112
@marcoestiercol6112 Жыл бұрын
What a great work, man. Excellence.
@kevino601
@kevino601 5 ай бұрын
Great breakdown brother, changed my perspective on this one.
@jdsadinger
@jdsadinger 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, I hope you see this, the way you re-tell these stories with your analysis of the technical aspect and added emotional and mental insight is like the telling of an epic mythological story. I love viewing sports through that lens, you're making good stuff!
@ninecool11
@ninecool11 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe he's gone now. Rip to one of the greatest. Marvin Hagler
@greggbergonzi7542
@greggbergonzi7542 3 жыл бұрын
Hey DOUCHE, whada ya mean you can't believe?? He took the B.S. covid Deathjab!! When are you getting yours JACKBALL??
@davidball7323
@davidball7323 2 жыл бұрын
this a great channel.. thanks a lot .. awesome
@smokeemifugottem2516
@smokeemifugottem2516 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the 1st fights I remember watching as a kid and I was hooked. one hell of a fight
@antonioridah172
@antonioridah172 3 жыл бұрын
One hell of a fight props to both legendary warriors 👏
@sallgoodman2323
@sallgoodman2323 3 жыл бұрын
These breakdowns are so damn entertaining, thank you for putting them together. I've watched some of them more than once 👍
@maintain.faith.3657
@maintain.faith.3657 Жыл бұрын
Great Work 🤝🥊
@andyfox4406
@andyfox4406 Жыл бұрын
Incredible analysis, thank you. I remember the fight and desperately wanting Sugar Ray to win. Looking back on it now, I'm not so sure of the result!
@b577960
@b577960 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your analysis of this unbelievable fight and showing a mere mortal like me the art involved in this much maligned sport. Sugar Ray was one of my heroes when I was young and I never appreciated the skill of some of his opponents but Hagler was unbelievable, in my opinion just as good he just went about it in a different way- sensational!!
@robertodell9193
@robertodell9193 3 жыл бұрын
The best fight analysis I've ever seen. Great editing made it easy to understand.
@popsfishing
@popsfishing Жыл бұрын
Wow this fight was incredible! The amount of mind games was astonishing!
@rowdy1197
@rowdy1197 2 жыл бұрын
The commentary on this video is excellent!
@crowhaven200
@crowhaven200 3 жыл бұрын
I watched that fight when it happened. I am a fan of both of these guys. Ray decided to fight Hagler after he watched Hagler's fight With John Mugabi. That was a great fight, and Hagler willingly took damage before the beast Mugabi got so tired he almost died and Hagler finished him. I think that fight took a lot out of Marvin. He went to war. He never stopped. Marvin wanted this fight so bad he agreed to 12 rounds. I think he underestimated Ray some. Ray was a hellova boxer and a fighter. I thought Hagler won the fight. Barely, but he was doing the damage and Ray was almost done... Ray was playing his celebrity just like Marvin accused him of doing. I never argued with anyone about it, but Ray fought a great fight. I also think if it had of been 15 rounds like it should have been, Hagler would have knocked him out. But who knows? There is no denying the will and skill of Ray. I always felt like Marvin blew it in some ways. I still have him winning the fight. Ray's last 30 second flurries worked as planned. Marvin had Ray at near death the last 20 seconds of the fight. he was hurt bad. Ray was a tough SOB, to last like he did. Great fight with an ending I still can't accept. It should have been 15 rounds. Marvin's fault that happened. And it was in Vegas..
@Imtowavy
@Imtowavy 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i agree i was watching the fight he probably would've got knocked out because he wasn't in his prime i don't he had the power like he did vs herns in this fight it looked like sugar ray was outta shape a little bit he didn't fight in 3 years
@rparker8761
@rparker8761 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, he took the fight after seeing that Hagler slowed down v Mugabi (at least that's what Ray says). But Hagler agree to 12 rounds, agreed to a bigger ring, agreed to bigger gloves for more $. Things would have been different if it was 15 rounds, a smaller ring, with smaller gloves, IMO. I agree, you cannot blame Ray for getting all the advantages he could. That is part of the sport. Ray beat the the best fighter of the era. Duran is an all-time great lightweight. Hagler an all-time great middleweight. Ray "retired" hardly ever fought, He cannot be denied beating the rest of the fab-four, but look at his record---he hardly fought.
@vincentgallagher7562
@vincentgallagher7562 3 жыл бұрын
Hagler was fighting for money - which is why he agreed to 12 rounds (Hagler had favored 15 rounds), 10 oz. gloves instead of 8 oz. and a larger ring. Hagler was getting ready to retire - the fight with Mugabi showed a diminishment of skills, however small, none-the-less he was on the downslide. To offset the conditions set by Leonard, in terms of higher financial reward: Hagler ended-up with 20 million, Leonard with 12 million.
@crowhaven200
@crowhaven200 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincentgallagher7562 good for him on the money. He wasn't a happy fighter, he was always on the outs with the sport. He immediately moved out of the country and made more money acting. I wonder if he would have retired had he won? I like to think so.
@pardeepparkash398
@pardeepparkash398 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it live by satellite all those years back and most people felt Hagler had been robbed, inc me, I thought "What, impossible.. !?" , but when I watch back now , on repeat, hate to say it, I feel the judges were correct- you say Leonard was one tough SOB, I would also add he was one smart SOB too, probably smartest ever, equal to Ali in boxing skill. He knew HOW to win, mental strategy, almost like a master chess player. I was a lethal combination of brain and fist, not many possess. And thanks for reminding me of that brutal Hagler/Mugabi scrap, it took a helluva lot out of Hagler, you're bang on there. But for me at least Hagler still remains supreme, the Marvellous One !
@MindBlower18
@MindBlower18 3 жыл бұрын
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