Friends, here is my book review on Don Felder's Heaven and Hell along with my Eagles discussion. I would LOVE to know what you guys think! Check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5uBlKqB0dLdkX0.html

There has recently been analysis of Eagles concert footage showing without a doubt that Don Henley is performing to a pre-recorded voice track. I am sure this new policy at concerts is a direct response to that.

Bill Hicks once said Don Henley single handedly took the fun out of rock and roll in the 80's.

His voice sounds so good because it is taped

his voice is good as ever....because its on playback

I used to be a rock writer for several newspapers in the 90's. I have interviewed Don Henley and spent some time with him. I have also interviewed Joe Walsh and Glenn Frey. I saw the Eagles 3 times in a month, 2 years ago. I saw many people being kicked out that had paid 1,600$ pet ticket and I just did not get it until now. I have seen the youtube videos talking about Don using backing tracks for his vocals. I think Don is trying to protect himself from embarrassing videos of him not being in sync with them. That's all I could come up with for an explanation that makes sense. Great video. Thanks

Henley doesn't want anyone to have proof he is lip-syncing his vocals in concert - period.

Sum 41 has always been a really cool band. Despite their huge success, they still act like they’re incredibly grateful to be where they are. Classic act, for sure.

Don Henley is the new Milli Vinilli...

There's one way to stop this. No one buy tickets to their concerts. Sadly, boomers will keep buying tickets. My brother and I went to see Van Halen on the Women and Children first tour circa 1981 at the Toledo sports arena in Toledo Ohio. I was in 9 th grade maybe, my brother in his 20's. He was a camera buff and we came loaded for bear with two bags full of SLR cameras, telephoto lenses and 35 mm film. After waiting in line for three hours we were told at the doors...."no cameras"..... In the utmost level of coolness the door guy said, "the little guy can stay here with me and you can run your cameras back to your vehicle....." The guy even sent someone to get me a pepsi fron the concession stand...it was July and 100 degrees. The general admission show was completely oversold and by the time we got in there was nowhere to sit or even stand on the floor. We spent the next 2 hours perched on the edge of the concete wall that surrounded the with an arm hooked around the hand rail. It was easily 130 degrees it that place. They were carrying people out left and right. My brother says, "I'm going to get us something to drink" mid show. He came back 20 minutes later with 4 draft beers. To this day, the best beer I've ever tasted. Love you brother Keith.

I produce commercials for a living, but began my career in the early 90s as a music video producer. About my third job in, I was producing a music video for Jackson Browne, who was incredibly nice to the entire crew, by the way. At about 8am, Jackson walks up to me and tells me that Don Henley was going to be stopping by at about noon to appear in the video. This was a complete surprise, but the record company quickly approved the cost of getting Henley his own motorhome. The motorhome arrived about 10am, and I had Production Assistants prep the motorhome. That is, put a bouquet of flowers in there as well as a fruit basket and some drinks in the fridge, etc. Being the Producer on the job, I was pretty nervous and I personally checked the motorhome to make sure everything was in order. But being a NEWBIE Producer, I checked his MoHo a SECOND TIME to double check all was in top shape and ready for him to relax until he was needed on set. Anyway, Henley arrives via his car service at about noon to Jackson’s grandfather’s house where we were filming, and I walked out to the curb to greet him and show him to his motorhome. I was pretty nervous and after my initial greeting with him, I mentioned that his motorhome had arrived, but that I was just going to triple check to make sure everything was good to go. I knew it was, but I was a 22 year old kid and was very nervous. As soon as I told him that I was going to triple check his motorhome he glanced at me with a look of distain and had the nerve to say, “my motorhome better be fucking ready.” I bit my tongue did a quick but probably needless third check of the motorhome and let him know that it was good to enter. I never spoke to him for the rest of the day, but I remember thinking that he was a very mean person and left me with a less than positive image of a songwriter that I practically idolized before then. From this KZfaq video, it sounds like he’s as big an asshole now as he’s ever been. My story happened about 30 years ago, and I still can’t listen to his music without remembering what a turd of a man he is. Jackson on the other hand, was amazing and filled with kindness and nonstop stories for the crew. I actually had the honor of sitting on the front porch with him during lunch as he explained how he wrote his song The Pretender, on that very porch and that the ice cream truck that he references in the song lyrics was literally an ice cream truck that would come down that very street and park across the street from the porch we were sitting at. WOW! (Says the Jackson Browne fan!) I’ve since worked with scores of huge-name celebrities, and that absolutely remains one of my fondest memories. Back to Henley: I just don’t understand why someone that’s been so blessed in his life, can’t shine a small ray of light on the world and instead CHOOSES to be the grouchy-turd-person that he’s always been and continues to be. Oh, if that would have happened ten years later in my career, I would have told him to f*ck off and walked away. * I’ve had to tell one or two celebs FU for their rudeness. 89% of celebs just want to do their job but are polite. 10% are very nice and go out of their way to brighten up the day of those around them. But, as with everything and everyone in life: it’s that 1% that can ruin an otherwise nice day. Be kind to one another, folks!!

2:22 "what a great voice" more like "what a great pre-recorded voice"

I was a stage manager for a studio company that had the Eagles on Stage 6 practiing for a month. Everybody was cool except Don. I was warned ahead of time to make myself invisible when he was on his way. Unbelievable prick.

Musicians that have made it big and then treat their fans like dirt are sick a-holes.

All he is doing is guaranteeing that his music will be lost for future generations and he will fade into obscurity.

Don Felder not only received a massive settlement, but he is still a shareholder in Eagles, LTD. He receives a payment based of percentage of everything Eagles sold. Every live performance, every shirt, every album sold- EVERYTHING. THAT is why he is so hated by Henley and formerly Frey.

Fil from Wings of Pegasus has two videos showing why Don is like this..

Don Henley's the kinda guy you hate when you're drunk but you'll defenitely beat him up when you're sober....

All the things Ive heard about them has soured my ability to listen to them any more, which is sad because they have a great discography.

I posted a cool performance of my band doing Hotel California. Don Henley's team found it and gave us a copyright strike. I had assumed that they would just claim the ad revenue, which is fine with me. If my original original music ever inspires millions of people to play, I will be humbled and grateful. I would never do what he is doing. It's all a big bummer.

Don Henley only sounds good because he's miming to a backing track on these latest tours.

What astounds me is that, as Rick Beato has said repeatedly, these people don't see the HUGE missed opportunity here to introduce another generation to their music....as well as not seeing the other benefit of social media being...well...social. Videos shared means more likes and eyes. Can't cure stupid though apparently 🙄

People will comply..when hell freezes over.

Sometimes great success at an early point in life results in a lack of a need to develop as a person. Thankfully there are many examples of this.

I used to listen to the Mark and Brian radio show on KLOS religiously. I remember them having Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo as studio guests. It was right around the time of the Napster trial. Pat and Neil were asked how they felt about the whole Napster/downloading thing. Pat replied, "Download all you want, when we're in town come buy a ticket". I LOVED her/them for that. Don Henley could learn a lot.

If we could just figure out how to harness the energy from the human ego. Imagine shoving Don Henley and Gene Simmons into a room together and letting them argue over who is more important and famous.

Don Henley single handedly destroyed the Eagles. None of the other ORIGINAL members want to deal with Henley’s BS,or at least the ones who haven’t died yet.

Henley will be gone soon enough and we can forget him.

Eagles music is still very popular where I play. I wonder what the impact of millions of us would have if we just stopped playing their songs at our weekend gigs?

My three favorite Eagles songs. Hotel California Victom of Love Those Shoes Mostly written by Don Felder. Joe Walsh and Don Felder turned them into more of a classic rock band.

All the security is obviously to stop any vocal recordings of Don Henley. They will all be identical because it is pre recorded.

Reading the comments it appears that Don Henley is miming and doesn't want to be caught out on camera

Don Henley became Gene Simmons a long time ago. Its not about the music anymore, its all about the money!!

If you pay for a ticket, you should be allowed to record it, so you have a memory of it that will last a life time.

This is what I don't get... Eagles fans are mostly the older generations. When they die, the Eagles will be forgotten. He is literally preventing younger generations from listening to his music, therefor causing him to lose out on money from younger generations who will never even know the Eagles exist.

I’m 63 and have always loved The Eagles. With that said, Don Henley has always been an a$$hole. Instead of being flattered, and compensated, by other musicians who want to play his songs, he does everything he can to shut them down. A lot of us musicians try to help each other and always have. Henley just needs to take his ball and go home.

So happy to see Derek so healthy…

The last tool show I went to a couple years ago had the same rule about phones.

I saw the Eagles just before Glenn passed away and we got a lecture about using cameras, I’ve since found out Don is miming maybe why he doesn’t like being videotaped

Don Felder taught guitar 🎸 to a young Tom Petty before Felder was hired by The Eagles. Mike Campbell from The Heartbreakers eventually wrote songs with Don Henley. Grateful Dead permitted fans to bootleg audio and video 📹. The late Jerry Garcia liked FREE advertising. Don Henley is crazy 😜. The same goes with other clients of Irving Azoff. AC/DC, Bryan Adams and especially Garth Brooks also take down videos. I side with Sum 41. The only Don Henley songs which DH has little control over are ones where he is not a writer or is not the featured singer.

I also believe that after they post that no pics and no video, I should have to the right to walk out and get a refund but I bet they didn’t offer that

I was at a Danzig show a few years back. There were signs up saying no phones or videos. Towards the end of the set. Some guy was seen taking a picture or video. Danzig stopped the set, threatened to beat the shit out of the guy, told security to “ go get that guy “ … not sure why but multiple security guards tackled the guy and were definitely roughing him up a bit , they then dragged him off to a back stage area. A few days later the guy made a post saying that the security held him down while Danzig punched him in the face. Not sure if that part is true because it was back stage . It was really messed up , and created this weird vibe at the venue . Danzig played a few more songs but the vibe was gone , people were leaving or just standing around. Weird stuff

i remember going to shows in the 90s, and a lot of bands had strict "no camera" policies. if you got caught with one, you'd have to either get rid of it or leave. (to be fair, they were much more strict with video cameras and the like than they were with crappy disposable still-frames) so naturally, i figured out real quick that if i wore long-pants and tucked it in to my sock, i'd be good to go. i'd get my dozen or 2 shots (very quick and carefully so as to not get caught .... cheap film cameras didn't even need time to focus) , and now i had something for my scrapbook to show my friends. while i can understand bands not wanting vids getting posted on the internet, the genie is already out of the bottle, and it ain't going back in. and like the dude from Sum41 said, if it's that big a deal, pay for the service that locks up e'body's phone. (if he can afford an entire platoon of full-time internet snoops, then he can certainly afford that) really all Don is doing is making sure that he and his music die in obscurity. this really contrasts sharply with a video i recently saw of The Warning talking about the first time they saw counterfeit merch being sold outside one of the venues they were playing .... they were ecstatic at the idea that they were a big enough deal that people were willing to pay for fake merch 🤣🤣🤣 "that's how you know you've made it 🥳"

My little, insignificant channel was nearly deleted just because I cover the guitar solo of (one of their tunes). -- I didn't even played it on a guitar, I played it by the 'UKULELE! That's how notorious Don's team on blocking. They don't even allow 'ukulelist to cover their tunes. Don't get surprised if you'd be accused of copy right violation just by mentioning his full name

I remember the Ataris played "boys of summer", I would pay to see the Ataris play all the Eagles songs, and Brian Adams songs too.🤩

Why does Henley look so much like Richard Attenborough from Jurassic Park now? You could literally have him play the character, and then have Richard's brother David do a voice over for the lines lol

Greed pure and simple.

Surely the biggest appreciation of a song is to like it so much you spend 20 hours recording and mixing your own cover version. Lighten up Big Names. Remember your only rich because WE bought the product.

Good video mate, first time viewer.

If I was a band of that stature and I didn't want people recording the gig, I'd have each concert recorded with soundboard audio and the feed from the screens and cameras, then I'd give the ticket holders a code to download the performance for free within a day or two of the show. I'd also stand on stage and ask if as a courtesy they only use their phones briefly or when necessary. But we know the Eagles would never do that because then people would have all those identical lip-synched performances of Desperado to put side by side...

Mr. Henley obviously has forgotten who got him to where he is today. The fans. Period. Hopefully he enjoys playing to empty arenas in the future...let's make it happen.

I’m a working cover band musician, even when I was in an original band and we got a little bit of notoriety in the New York area back in the 80s. We never cared if people took pictures videotaped it. We didn’t care a lot of other bands didn’t care hell the Grateful Dead would promote you to take your recording gear in and record them and it only made them more popular. That’s what I don’t understand. They’re not producing new music and the kids really don’t know who they are and when you try to record something and put it up on KZfaq they want you to take it down and you know what I abide by it. I go OK, I won’t do anything. Enough of people don’t acknowledge their music. It will cease to exist where the Grateful Dead don’t care what you do we live forever. As a guy from Sum 41 said world changing just the way it is you can’t control where your music goes once you put it out there let it go let it go all kinds of places, put it up on KZfaq you’ll still get a cut over they’re making and I know you don’t make much on too, but that might be a few thousand dollars every quarter if you’re greedy musician you’ll take all of it which I don’t think is right you’re only entitled to a maximum of 50% but that’s the way I feel your song it might be my intellectual video so now it’s a 50-50 deal however, if you want your legacy to go on beyond your death, you got to let people take your music and run with it.

There are a number of young people who had channels reacting to older music that got ended after years of content whom have said they would have happily complied if they had been warned. Some got multiple strikes that were 'retro active' which is youtube's fault for allowing the unflagged videos to stay in their back catalogue. 'Boomer' music is being embraced by black kids today and Henley is tanking a demographic they otherwise would never had reached. Smart business, Don. #Brad&Lex

Same thing happened to me in Toronto in March. Security all over everybody like paint on a wall as soon as phones came out. I was super pissed off. I bought a solo ticket in the front row day of show, paid huge money for the seat, and I cant have a pic or a vid??? Are you kidding me? Pretty f'n greedy Don. I think Henley thinks he 'owns' the experience you are having. It's a product you are not allowed to take home in his mind. It's absurd. Mostly I think he wants to keep phones off anything He or the other band members may be lip syncing or tracking to.

Such a shame. My all time favorite band doing this. Very sad. Great video though. I subscribed. 👍🏼

For years now I have not played my Eagles CDs and records just in case DH gets the cops to arrest me in my home!

Henley has been Lip Syncing for some time now.

Reminds me of the time when Metallica sued their fans for downloading mp3's from NAPSTER. This was AFTER Metallica already made a billion dollars. I lost all respect for them at that point. My rule is this: you NEVER hassle or sue your fans. PERIOD. Your fans are the reason you EXIST. Some artists and labels understand this. Will fans go overboard and cross the line once in awhile? Yeah. It happens. But the majority of the fans will be respectful. There will always be some bad apples in every bunch. This is the price of fame and fortune. Deal with it, or find something else to do with your life. I won't support any band that goes after their fans. Leave the fans alone. Technology is the genie in the bottle. Once you let it out, you can't put it back in. You have to accept it, and work with it. Try to use it to your advantage. Don't blame the fans because they use technology.

That made me laugh when you named Bryan Adams, as I play his music all the time on my channel

Hi Mr Henley! If u or your team watches this channel...sir fan boys and fan girls have only helped legacy and unknown bands!.. Have a nice day!

I don't go to a ton of concerts because they have become so expensive. I still like to see some of the iconic bands now and then if I have the chance. However, because of Don Henley, I will never pay to go to an Eagles concert. The only way people can change his attitude is by just not buying his stuff anymore.

Eagles. It's like consuming your favorite dessert for years and years, and finally finding out it contained foreign substances that are bad for your health.

David Geffen said Henley was a Malcontent.

I went and saw the Misfits reunion with Glenn Danzig at The Forum in L.A. back in 2016. They had those "YONDR" pouches for everyone to put their cell phones in. Anyway, they were so concerned about putting everyone's phones in YONDR pouches that they failed to notice the little keychain pocket knife on my keychain. Needless to say, Once I passed the security gate, I cut the YONDR pouch open and got my phone back out. LOL

I think this practice puts the Eagles one rowdy person in the crowd away from starting a full blown riot at a concert. I wouldn't want to be security at their concerts. Back in the day bands got exposure through radio airtime. KZfaq is the modern version of that, it's how bands get exposure to new potential fans. These people on youtube are actually providing a service by bringing the Eagles music to new generations.

And this is why I went to see Dead and Co at the Sphere but I will not be giving any of my money to them to see the Eagles at the Sphere, and the Sphere is the best concert experience i have ever had in my life. but i will not give them my money.

Money changes everything. Fame and success change people, usually for the worse.

I feel like the world is better because of the ability to record everything, that includes live shows. Do you know how many times I've gone on KZfaq to search up a band or an artists performance, then after watching it, wanting to actually see it live. Recording a performance with a crappy phone only promotes that artist, and makes people want to see them in the flesh. It also free advertising. I didn't even know that the Eagles were still touring. I might have known if I'd seen some footage on KZfaq. Henley is an old fuddy duddy who need to get with the times

I they don't want cameras it should be disclosed when the tickets are purchased, it sounds like Derek found out when they arrived at the venue. Same for backing tracks that are replacing performances, it should be disclosed.

I think KZfaq just posted don Henleys official music videos earlier this year.

One the one hand this practice of sending security after people with phones in the audience is par for the course these days. It happened at all of the last 4 or 5 concerts I’ve attended (in the past 3 years). It puts a damper on the experience, but it is what it is, I guess. (Just like seated shows and dynamic pricing, two other marvels of modern concerts.) On the other hand, Henley may have an ulterior motive here, as he got caught lip syncing his vocals during this latest tour. People found out about it, of course, THANKS TO KZfaq. Turned out his vocals are identical night after night after night, and we now have the video to prove it. That’s how he sounds so amazing in his 70s. He’s probably embarrassed about the whole affair, as he should be. Imagine spending $250 a person to hear Don Henley lip sync his parts. It’s unconscionable. Just retire already.

I don't understand why people go to a concert and end up looking at their phone all the time. I have never bought a phone to a concert.

A little while back I was at a Dylan concert and everybody was sitting down and there was a giant open area in front of the stage very easy to access to walk down to be in front of that stage so I did, and immediately had my hands held behind my back, and was ushered all the way out of the venue. My phone was still locked up in the protective case they put it in so I walked back in to get it undone. The security guard saw me and grab me and kick me out again and called the cops and put me down for second- degree trespassing, I spent the night in jail.😮

I wish movie theaters were this strict.

I think Henley has enough money and he should tell the fans that have supported him do whatever you want with our music, enjoy it.

Felder is a nice guy.

The Beagles 🐕

I think it's all a symptom of a root problem...what that root problem is, I couldn't begin to speculate what it could end up being...piss poor compensation to what Henley thinks he's entitled to? Is he trying to "Take It To the Limit"? (hard to resist that one...)...huh, I guess I was wrong, because I began to speculate, ha!

Damn. Sometimes the more ya know about your heroes…..

I also posted a solo cover for hotel California on facebook, now the audio is muted.

So I finished this video...what if they are out of original ideas? What if this whole "copyright strike" thing is to force us to post our original compositions, so that the people with deep pockets can steal our ideas, repackage them as their own, make a bunch of money off of their plagiarism, with no fear of recourse against them, because we your average creative musician doesn't have the deep pockets to endure a lawsuit against a rich plagiarizer. Just a theory; not stating that is the way it is.

If I was using backing tracks, I would at least do a few different versions of each song to mix it up a little. Henley is still using the same one from at least 2018.

I've enjoyed the Eagles for the most part but I was never a fan due to what I've always felt was an unauthentic and almost elite attitude whenever I saw or read an interview. I've enjoyed so many awesome concerts over the decades and have taken lots of pictures and there's only been a very few times I was asked to stop taking pictures. I will say I had a dope camera and every time when I asked it was 1. The quality of my equipment and 2. That being said they thought I could/was recording. So I would take out my cellphone, not unlike most people around me and things were fine. I can only recall one time where I was also told no cell phones as well. So, I think the rules are bullshit especially at an Eagles concert considering the era they came up in.

"I hate the Eagles"!! - Jeff (The Dude) Lebowski

If you record them live, you're going to catch that lip-synching, that let's a septuagenarian sound so good...

Well, everyone knows some of the Eagles members had huge egos and were always arguing for creative control over each other, so I suppose it’s no surprise they want to exert as much control over their fans as they can.

Meanwhile people are going to shows at "the sphere" and sharing their phone clips to share how cool that was and nobody is coming after that because they want to pimp the experience.

Not for nothing, how hard is it to not take your phone out for two hours. I've never shot video or taken pictures at a concert, ever. I don't see the point. Whether people like it or not, rules are rules. You go to someone's house and they say no smoking, you don't fuckin' smoke. If they announce "no filming or photos" then the respectful thing to do is to listen to the instructions. How hard is it? It's two hours. You'll live.

The Eagles posted on Facebook about their engagement in Las Vegas. I replied, "Will Don Henley be lip synching"? Deacon Frey "Liked" my comment. I find that very telling.

In regards to Adams are you have to do is to get a DistroKid license...its so easy and thats what made Boyce Avenue mllions of dollars and no strikes!

They don't want to be videotaped lip-syncing again is part of it.

DonHilli Henilli

People like Don Henley need to be called out on video. They need to be told straight to their faces that it a dick move to do that to fans. No bullshit or diplomacy, just the cold truth.

Don't play my music! Ever! Seen friend.

Maynard also doesn’t like things filmed. But he doesn’t pull that KZfaq shit. Not that a tool show can ever be done justice on a cell phone.

I don't like phones at concerts either BUT it's the 21st century - times change. Just be respectful and don't hold the phone above your head and it is fine. Fancams can actually help smaller bands get exposure on the internet and bigger bands are big enough where it isn't going to hurt them. Plus rumors are going around that Henley is lip syncing to some of his songs (I wonder if that is the real motivation for no cameras).

This is so bizarre. They’re at the twilight of their lives, the least they can do to ensure their music legacy lives on is to make sure their music/content is accessible to the younger generation You can barely see any Eagles concert videos from the 70s here on KZfaq. Such a shame for such a good band.

There is a rock band of more recent vintage that has 96 inputs, 48 live and 48 tracks. The band is hearing their live inputs in their IEMs and the audience is getting 90% tracks. Nope, I won't name them...

Regardless of whatever the reason,either don't play live,or embrace the ways of the modern masses for we can not control the ways of the times when it is beyond our ability to effectively do anything about it without having to go through costly and painstakingly time consuming efforts that would have little to no effect and eventually drive one crazy with frustration.

One day soon, there will be a new kid in town…