Is it better than skar subwoofers?

@@ivannieves154lmao hell yeah it is

@@Gnik4144 Fr I was thinking on getting a Memphis mojo 12"

@@ivannieves154 Memphis does make good subs. It all depends on what you are looking for. I would suggest look at Fi car audio and possibly Soundqubed. If you have the money and want sound quality plus great bass JL is pricey but worth it.

​@@ivannieves154skar is low end

It has to be same price

Thank you. I always try an explain to people that you're paying for the patents and tech involved. Most these other companies just buy all the same parts and put them together.

Exactly. The box, the vehicle and angle of subs all play a part in the SQ. My zv5 18" hits very much harder than any w7 while sounding just as good because it's in a proper box.

@@xiongxiongloft5937I’d say the w7 is a lot more

Honest question- in what ways does the W7 sound better?

Where did you get the foam replaced?

​@@edleb4life yeah that's a hard find, you have to basically find somebody's trash "a blown sub for cheap", cuz I know JL is real strict about sending out any of their soft parts due to their patents.

​@@edleb4life I just bought my 3 12vw6's & my dummy buddy put a screwdriver through it. JL will not send us the phone but since I just purchased it under warranty, biggest replace the whole sub "thank God" they were $599 each

@@edleb4life Simply Speakers has the foam kits..easy to do yourself..50 bucks.

Get a sundown zv6 like me and your change ur mind don't wait too long

@@xiongxiongloft5937 no thanks

@@xiongxiongloft5937 louder doesn't equal better. There's a difference between quality and quantity.

@@RodofAllTrades ok

@@RodofAllTrades I wasn't born yesterday

So, would you get more pressure from the zv6

you will not be disappointed @@MrCoe

My zv6 are not SQ subs as they produce rattling noises such as drinks bouncing around in cup holders, windshield wipers bouncing on windshield, windows shaking. Even those listening to it can hear there house vents rattle as you drive by. It is a rattle trap if there ever was one.

​​@@bkeliikoato me that is exactly what I don't want. I don't get how anyone would think that sounds good

@@MrCoehell yea I got 1 single zv6 15 making hurricanes

Other than the SUV where would you fit a W7? Lol

@@stephen3891 8W7 than haha!

Get a small trailer to pull the w7 with your your bicycle 😂

Fi car audio is the best of both worlds.

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Hahaha same. You had JLs everyone said damn. Especially the W7 but back then only the rich kids had them because it was newer in my day lol mommy and daddy paid for them. I earned my 2-12 W-0s and they were solid

They cost the same

@@TheChcam Zv5 and W7 are different prices. But I meant Id rather get 2 Zv5 12s instead of just a single JL w7. More cone area

@@Luminous.Dynamicswell of course 2 12’s is more corn area then 1 pinecone

@@lukasroyster6631 Bro is crying over me breaking down the obvious for someone else "Corn area" though. Lmao

That doesn't make any sense 😂

Yes sir.

The zv6 is like 5x the power 😂

W7 alll day

They are very efficient, sensitive, and dynamic drivers that don't need a massive box! Getting a used one has been the best way for me!

I don’t have jl audio but what it helps the w7 is the Xmax if I’m not wrong they can do 31mm. 13.5 inch sub. I have sub in my car that is rated 900rms 12 inch but xmax is 16mm but it still pounds nice I really don’t get sq or spl whole thing in the comment section because a true sq system is always pair or single 10 inch sub that’s the standard. I have a truck with pair of 10 is my closest to sq sounds nice and flat all levels. Anyways w7 definitely not a sq sub that SPL sub with the power it handles that’s why people love and hate that sub because of that

@@juliobello4561 pair of 10s is not a standard. seen sq setups with single 12s. have you taken measurements of your system? if yes, leave the bandwidth within 3dB in the replies

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@@luisbrain7011no.. get a good set of components, w7, some proper music not some “drop the bass” songs and this sub will shine. If your after bass and rattles then yes even Skar is capable of that.

I mean the sundown is pretty accurate, most ppl wont hear the difference anyway. I've never met anyone doing critical listening with car audio so for the average consumer they'll probably go with the sundown over the JL. At this point it's fanboys vs fanboys

I have the C3 650 front doors they sound awesome thinking of changing them for the Focal es165kx2 run 4 channels.

Wait is focal sounding better than jl C-3? What am I missing here. I was just about to get the c5s in my 2 door Tahoe

I have a XD600-6V2 I want to use the Focal's kx2 are bi-amp the C5 650X so great back doors

That would be sundown😂

@@aiden7882 everybody has a right to their own opinion. Welcome to the internet!

​@@RodofAllTrades You're commenting alot on this video and seem to be all about JL. I have no hate towards any brand. Ive owned many (JL, Kicker, RF, Inifinty, pioneer, Fi, DD, Sundown, Skar, AQ, Massive, Konaki, CT sounds, Memphis, Dayton, Quantum, Rockville, DB drive etc.) And these are only the subs i remember. Ive owned tons more amps and speakers. My point is i know W7s are good but there are alot of speakers that can easily do what a W7 does at a fraction of the cost. Audio has made leaps and bounds in the last decade. Sundown is one of the best examples, not the cheapest but definitely make some awesom subs that sounds great. Budget wise Skar is hard to beat.

@@swanginfleet You are not wrong. However, JL has elevated the price of the W7 to ridiculous levels and people still pay the price. I would think that by now, they would have recouped the cost of research and development for these. The W7's are literally DOUBLE in price of what they were released at. Inflation since then has gone up by 67%. It's as if JL is saying, "we have the best sub in the world". I really don't agree with their pricing scheme, which is why I have only paid MSRP for a W7 ONCE. All the others I have bought were used, with the exception of a 13w7 that I bought new for $450 from a guy back in 2008. I just really enjoy what the W7 does for me without needing a very large enclosure or requiring a ton of power. I have had other great sounding subs in the past, but typically, they needed a larger enclosure to get the job done. I do think there are many great subwoofers out there and if there was no such thing as JL, I'd probably still be rocking Kicker. That new SOLO-X looks interesting!

Ive owned JL Audio speakers 🔊 for 10 years. JL Audio is pricey but you really get what you pay for.

Lol 0:43

I see Sundown as more of a top fuel dragster!

@@RodofAllTrades haha fair enough! I can agree!

@@RodofAllTrades haha fair enough! I can agree!

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yeah im with the zv6

HA HA HA are you serious LOL

@@g4werkzgenesisparts556 so you’d go with a $1300 12 that puts out 1000 watts rather than a $950 12 that puts out 2500 watts plus….?

Where I live there is a guy selling a 12w7 for 500 so resell value maybe not so good. I had a JL 8 inch sub the one with the JL enclosure it's 400 brand new and I had to let it go for 125 because nobody wanted to offer more for it

@@oscarcastro2282 used car audio is like buying a used condom you just asking for problems! 😂

Superior performing in what? The ZV6 is an SPL sub, as the W7 is an SQL sub. They are both superior performing in those categories. It just depends on what you are looking for personally. Anything SQL-focused will be much more costly than SPL-focused. Cheers

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Depends on what I wanted to do…..And the money I have……the w7 is going to cost a lot more ……the zv6 is going to get way lower way louder and have wayyyy more potential while the w7 will just sound good ……sundown all day

Nice which Sundown subs would you compare the w7 to besides the one in the video? More on the sound quality side.

​@@dragoncholo4447Sundown U v2

​@@dragoncholo4447try DC Audio from Down4Sound

I've got a 2 cf box id love to port for an 8w7 its twice spec size recommendations but I've been told it could be done for more sound... 30hz is the tuning goal do u think I should do it?

In highschool I had the exact same! I had a 10w7 and when i would play it at the beach people would come up to my truck thinking I had a 15 lmao idk why but the sound from those w7s travel far 💯 I have a zv6 now tho😂

I love sundown but look at how much more cone area w7 has. It also sounds wayyy cleaner. I still think jls prices are crazy though

@@Handlethatineedtousethey’re both 12in woofers how does it have more come area

Sundown all day

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I hear that but I would say jbl for home jl for the car

@@cjspliffs I have two 4245 18" jbl for home , that are killer , but want add a sub for the real low stuff cuz the jbl small xmas , thinking of putting an 18" basket on a w7 13 motor . Any opinions ?

@@jacobclark89give it try because my brother has pair Velodyne subs but he replaced one with alpine type r sub it hits lower and sounds very nice. That’s a thing about some car subs they have nice xmax. I’m trying to figure out to build myself sub box but I want to get myself pair of jbl 2288h subs for my HT .

Yup I believe it brotha 💯. Once u have the clean power going to its gonna slap hard.. I got 2 13w7ae's in my g37x sedan..

@@JrGarcia-dn6mp That’s what’s up! I have two 12’s. I might bump up to the 13’s down the road. But the 12’s hit hard enough for me right now.

I have only paid retail for my 1st 12w7 which was $549 back in 2002. Since then, I have found deals at pawn shops and craigslist. Once I bought a brand new 13w7 for $450 cash. It was a little sketchy to say the least. I really think JL has gotten a little greedy with their pricing. Especially since they should have recouped their research & development costs of the W7 by now....shit, W7 prices have literally doubled since their introduction!

@@RodofAllTrades facts! They are amazing subs but I think you phrased it perfectly "JL has gotten a little greedy with pricing".

You can get that info from down 4 sound. I bought two 15 zv6 from them my box is 8.5 cubes tune to 32 HZ

You can get it from the build house in China.

@@asherdie I won't need it because I'll never buy Sundown. Still, many people base their purchase decisions on the availability of specifications and information because many are DIY type that build their own and specs should just be on their page.

Just call sundown

@@xiongxiongloft5937 I shouldn't have to. What are they hiding, or are they too lazy to publicize their specifications? Doesn't matter. I found what I like and I've been running W7s for 20 years.

I agree with you that they want too much money for them, but just be sure you don't destroy your hearing prior to getting a W7 or you'll never appreciate it.

​@@RodofAllTrades the good thing is bass doesn't hurt hearing even at 160db bass cannot hurt your hearing so that's good

@@oscarcastro2282 160 dB at 15-30 Hz doesn't seem that loud to most bass heads. Loud noise above 120 dB can cause immediate harm to your ears. Just because you may not experience pain, doesn't mean that you're not doing irreversible damage. You can always have your ears tested every six months to see if you're correct. The first thing you will lose is your higher frequencies.

@@RodofAllTrades only high frequency can harm your hearing bass is such low frequency it doesn't hurt anyone's ears, so many bass heads have 160db setups and their hearing is perfectly fine

@@oscarcastro2282 Because YOU are an expert. Sure thing buddy. Do what you want with your hearing. I plan on enjoying my music for years to come.

Without problem.

If you just want to make a bunch of noise , you can do that with a much cheaper sub like a $300 sub , if you want one of the best than JL

sundown is better

my experience is similar!

I like that😂😂😂

Facts, I've pushed 5k to my zv2's EACH and they took it for a whole lot longer than I thought they should have hahaha then a drop-in recone and back to wrinkling surrounds and crazy hairtricks

@@kevinAuman1 dang zv2’s 5k that’s crazy I never knew those would handle 5k each suprised they even played at all

Me too. Z series are no joke. They talk SQ but Z in a custom box tuned properly has SQ.