I forgot to mention that the reason Baby-Vegeta couldn't do SS4 is because of Baby's cells preventing it. I said it in older videos, but i wanted to reiterate it here. I'll be covering this in the Baby-Vegeta Guide, which is coming soon

Super Saiyan 4 is the best thing about GT.

SSJ4 is the best looking transformation in the series. I love the small changes and the feral look that it gives Goku.

I think a lot of people actually like SSJ4 because of how much more serious Goku is, along with his lack of control and willingness to kill an enemy.

I like seeing all the different transformations as different branches: 1. SSJ: Base --> SSJ --> SSJ2 --> SSJ3 2. God: Base --> SSJ God --> SSJ Blue 3. Ozzaru: Base --> Ozzaru --> Golden Ozaru --> SSJ4

“Magical Pants” lol priceless

Why ppl like SSJ4 -ties in withe Oozaru / Golden Oozaru transformation -it is not just about the length of hair like in Z, or hair colour like in S. New whole appearance and abilities -it looks, at least to me, culturally japanese (kabuki) rather than western, hence more authentic Solid work G101 👍🏾

In my opinion Vegeta's means of attaining SSJ4 wasn't cheating. It's similar to how the saiyans created artificial moons to transform into their Oozaru forms while attacking other planets. I think both are pretty innovative honestly.

Super Saiyan 4 actually brings the user back to their prime. Which is why Goku was returned to an adult and why Vegeta's hair went back to his DBZ Style.

Finally the goat transformation

Can't forget about Goku's magical wristbands changing from pink to blue when he goes SS4, that was always so distracting to me as a kid lol. Love the form though

Fun fact: Sean Schemmel actually passed out during Goku's Super Saiyan 4 transformation scream

LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN!! I wish Goku and Veget would wish back their tails already!

Was in the middle watching steve Harvey's helping guys with no game, then ssj4 geekdom video notifications pops up "instant transmission".

Ss4 gogeta was so strong that they had to end gt now that's powerful

I love the first super Saiyan transformation because of how iconic Super Saiyan was for the first time. And also Super Saiyan 2 but my most favourite will have to be Super Saiyan 4 due to the look and design. It makes them look more unique and more connected to the Saiyan ape roots adding both sides to one form. Powerful and really cool 💪😎☺️👍

Y'all don't know how much I wanted this to be Super Saiyan God back in the day. It just makes sense for a Super Saiyan God to be in his true primal Saiyan form.

I always head canon'd it as SS4 reverts you back to when you were in your prime (I remember them saying Vegeta looked younger when he was in SS4 too).

I would love the idea of SS4 being a permanent mutation. It always felt silly to me, seeing Goku revert to and from ss4. I doubt we'll ever see this stuff outside of things like Heroes...

Geekdom101, you do make a good point about Vegeta "cheating" to get super saiyan 4, but that's only because Vegeta didn't have his tail. We both know that if Vegeta had his tail, he would have achieved super saiyan 4 on his own.

I honestly always felt that ssj4 was the more natural course that the evolutions should of taken. I guess cause I like the idea of the tail growing back and then taking on more of the Ape characteristics. Love the videos. Long time viewer. Take care geekdom

"You've gone too far. Now you've gotta deal with me."

“Mysterious magical pants that happen to grow” classic line right there! 😂😂😂

"mysteriously grows magical pants" *rotfl* I absolutely love that. Made my morning

I love the lore behind Super Saiyan 4. The design is influenced by the Monkey King from Journey to the West, which Dragon ball is based on. So in a way, Dragon ball comes full circle near the end of GT with Goku becoming the apex of the saiyans, aka the Monkey King.

Probably my favourite thing to come out of GT aside from the concept of the Shadow Dragons. I'm even more appreciative of Super Saiyan 4's design after the palette swap transformations proliferating in Super. It's complete fanon but I like to think that where regular Super Saiyan draws power from anger and Super Saiyan Blue puts its user in a state of calm, Super Saiyan 4 derives its power from the ape instinct of the Great Ape form, a mental state that best channels the current potential of the transformed Saiyan when properly controlled.

I like it even more now because of how distinct it remains. DB has mostly forgotten about Saiyans having tails and turning into giant apes period. While this form embraced that part of their heritage. And especially after Super, I'm just appreciating a form that feels different. It looks like a legitimate transformation GT may have had issues (everything post DBZ has issues), but this form isn't one of them. And I'm glad that GT just ran with this form instead of trying to force a SSJ5 onto us. This was a pinnacle form and it just made sure to let it stand on its own.

"Now you've done it. From here on out it's going to get ugly." - SSJ4 Goku

This is my favorite form by far, it looks too good

Not sure if Heroes has done this, but a Ultra Instinct Omen SSJ4 would be freaking amazing to see

I remember when my older cousin showed me a limewire downloaded version of the ss4 gt episode when I was like 8 years old and I thought it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen

Gohan could probably reach it for the soul fact he's the only half breed who was born with a tail

What i really love about SSJ4 is the level of details on it, every user have slight alteration on the fur, eyes and hair color based on their each genetic traits.

I’ve never been a GT or SS4 guy, but there’s no denying that the story behind it, both in universe and behind the scenes is very interesting. It was pretty cool when Toriyama sketched SS4 Goku for the Dragon Box.

I remember reading about ssj4 back in highschool on the internet, and getting fed all of these myths and misconceptions about the form. Although I never watched GT, I still remember being in love with how it looked, and in my opinion, it is the best looking transformation in all of Dragon Ball.

4:50 it wasn’t really cheating. Goku just had a rare occurrence where all the right environmental factors for the blutz waves were present and vegeta simply had bulma synthesize it. Vegeta if anything would have had an easier time achieving it since he was always in full control of his great ape form. :)

Can't wait for Cumber to get that form in Heroes someday. He is going to be a beast. Imagine SS4 Cumber and SS4 Xeno Broly joining forces.

Super Saiyan 4 is so badass, but the magical pants was a little weird.

I first learned of GT from playing final bout on PlayStation. I love that game!!

I like how he says "you" everytime,.like sure we can turn super Saiyan

Super Saiyan 4 does have one weakness - the tail. If someone removes it, they possibly lose access to the form.

Head Canon: Gogeta has red hair because the red fur colors overtook the black.

I always liked to think that Super Saiyan 4 is actually not a Super Saiyan form (because of how different it looks) and its name was just made up by Goku and friends to simplify everything.

I love ssj4, the design and idea is amazing. I feel that if they made it canon, this should have been the final power, a saiyan could achieve, naturally.

Ssj4 is the best transformation.

SSJ4 was always my favorite form right after 3. I love how badass and menacing it looks, and Gokus demeanor in the form being more serious as well.

I always thought that Super Saiyan 4 transformed the user physically to the pinnacle power of a sayian to his or her's prime and that's how Goku turned into an adult again. Just like saiyans can be in there prime for years before they age. So the prime goku was what the transformation brought him to.

Ever since I first watched GT way back in the day, I've always been of the mind that SSJ4 isn't actually a "true" Super Saiyan form. Not in the traditional sense of 1, 2, and 3. Though SSJ3, arguably, taps into the same part of a saiyan's physiology that is utilized in the SSJ4 transformation. Instead, SSJ4 is much more akin to a secondary oozaru transformation. I mean, it requires a Saiyan *capable* of transforming into a Super Saiyan while in Oozaru form ,they must be able to retain their mental faculties while in that form, and it additionally needs a much higher input of Blutz waves. Blutz waves are *only* used to trigger the Oozaru transformation. Therefore, the SSJ4 transformation acts not on the saiyans' S-cells, which are responsible for the Super Saiyan transformation, but instead on the cells related to their oozaru transformation. This was just my running theory, and I've not done the in-depth research required to know the *exact* canon functionality of SSJ4 from any sources outside of the GT anime.

Super Saiyan 4 is still the most unique and interesting transformation Goku has experienced, imo.

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I love how much dokkan art you're using! Really enjoyed this video and the transformation guide series in general. Thanks!

I like that Nakatsuru had the balls to completely redesign what the typical SSJ transformation looks like and it worked! It's my personal favorite Super Saiyan transformation. Only good thing that came out of GT.

Ah, SSJ4 my favorite transformation. Thank you 👍

Probably my fav transformation. Gonna love this

6:45 Well from direct quotes in the show, SSj4 was never at full power since he got it. Pan stated that he was fighting baby so long that he was worm out. Maybe thats why they list full power ssj4 as a new form

Yep. You are only validating my theories I’ve had for a really long time. Btw I feel like this and the golden oozaru guides you’ve made won’t be topped as my current favorites cause of what I have COOKIN in my head. You’re the best bro. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I won't lie, I like the Ultra Instinct state, but Super Saiyan 4 will always be the Pinnacle of Saiyan Power, to me and certainly more dependable than UI.

I always wondered what's the super Saiyan 4 history would be had it be been unlocked from the gate

Nice guide! I still haven't pulled it off yet, several dozen failed attempts so far, but I think i'm getting the hang of this transformation, all thanks to your guide. This one feels a whole lot harder than SSJ3. I'll post a video when i'm finally successful!

The reason I love this Transformation is because it feels like a True Final Form (the endgame of Saiyan Power).

They should re do the good things from GT and bring them back in super

Ssj4 is my favorite form of goku 🔥

Watching this now in 2021.. I can’t believe none of us knew what was going to happen in 2020.

Hi, Geekdom! Just want to say that I'm a HUGE Dragonball fan. Love your videos, I've watched pretty much every single one of them. Your content is awesome. I can tell you really put a lot of thought and do very thorough research. It's great to see that there are Dragonball fans out there who are truly hardcore, such as yourself, Quaman, and Laughingstock Media. You guys are true fans. I've been a fan since 1997, and I will admit that when I first heard the original Japanese voices, they shocked me in a sense when I was a kid, but they grew on me and I've come to appreciate them as much as I appreciate the Funimation cast. After I began learning Japanese several years ago, I think that's really when I began to falk in love with the original voices and Kikuchi's score...Nozawa's work is steller. Also, I'm a huge fan of Furīza sama and Ryusei Nakao.The Emperor of the Universe is the best, in my opinion. I grew up on Schemmel's Goku, as well as the Faulconer soundtrack, but Shinsuke Kikuchi's music is very good. My favorite track is Bardock's theme song, personally. Anyway, keep up the awesome work, man! The name is Johnathan, by the way

I really hope they re-introduce SSj4 into Super at some point. Maybe combine it with God-ki, or even combine it with MUI (AKA pay an homage to the fan-made SSj5, what with the silver fur/hair).

I love these videos so much

Vegeta only needed the machine to transform into a REGULAR Oozaru. Vegeta did the rest. If Vegeta had his tail, he would’ve used the power ball technique to transform into a REGULAR Oozaru and the end result would have been the same, so really it doesn’t matter.

And this transformation guide is a clear example why you are easily one of the greatest Dragon ball youtubers of all time and it will stay this way for a very long time. Great work once again Geekdom101, keep it up bro.

I always thought at the time that SSJ4 was the most complete and controlled form of SSJ, maybe even the true form of SSJ.

I think SSJ 4 is by far the coolest transformation, it looks awesome and I love the idea for first needing to turn into a Golden great ape.

"After obtaining the pinnacle of Saiyan Power, you become Super Saiyan 4. When you draw out the ultimate battle power, not even beings with Godly Ki can stand in your way. You're able to break through your limits in this form but you have to put up with the extra hair on your body!"

Thank you, Geekdom! I was looking forward to this one for a long time.

I feel like this form deserves a comeback. It was a very good concept by Nakatsuru and could be incorporated into the Dragon Ball Super anime.

Super Saiyan 4 is the *GOAT*

I really hope SSJ4 becomes canon one day. Especially with the Moro Arc it has so much potential to make an appearance.

The reason why I think Goku turns back into an adult when he goes SS4 is that the form is so powerful that it overrides the magic of the wish that turned him into a kid. Similarly to how having more power forces a fused being out of fusion at a faster rate (though that never made sense to me because, if they're that powerful, can't they use that power to force themselves to stay fused longer?).

I’ve been waiting all week for this! Finally🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

My three favorite things out of gt was ssj4, shadow dragon and the truffles!

That was well worth the wait. Great job, bro!

Great video dude. SS4 was such a great concept/design

Yes! My absolute favorite transformation in all of Dragon Ball.

i mean vegeta doesnt have a tail so it kinda makes sense that he needed bulma to aquire super saiyan 4 if im not mistaken dont you need a tail to aquire super saiyan 4.

This video is so great. Thank u so much Geekdom for all you do bud.

Yooooo! The audio sounds way better. Nice job man!

I already know almost everything about dragonball but still always tune in to your channel. I may not be learning much but I love the way you tell it

I love drawing SSJ4 Im work on a fan design for Masako What if series What if Raditz kept the Patara earrings and used them to fused with Vegeta

You know it would be cool to see how Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta discover and unlock Super Saiyan 4

Geekdom101 you just reignited my love for GT, I'm gonna go rewatch some episodes.

I love this form but I think it would be more accurate to call it something like Primal Super Saiyan or something like that considering the way it’s obtained

Been waiting for this :]

This is my favorite form, just because of how it works back to the original lore of the saiyan tails and oozaru forms. It felt like the series totally forgot about the tails at some point and I liked that it brought it back in GT

Man, how do you always squeeze the best dragon ball clips into these videos? Haha, awesome video as always!

I don’t care what people say I enjoy Dragon Ball GT a lot especially the music and the forms I’m a hardcore Dragon Ball GT fan

GEEKDOM ITS LIT🔥🔥🔥🔥. Been waitin foe this

Love this classic in depth video bro!

I like that Trunks was supposed to get it in DB Heroes but they couldn't decide on how he'd look so they just gave him SSG instead.

Thanks geekdom!!! I always have wondered about This transformation

,,When i am in Super Saiyan 4 my body goes wild"-SSJ4 GT Goku (Baby saga)

Gogeta red hair were explained: the were red to make him more different than Goku because his hairstyle was almost the same.

Best transformation video 🔥 And very well and deeply explained so.