When there finally isn't an over-abundance of kryptonite.

When superman is away from ridiculous plot armor like the failsafe storyline

@@alduintheanti-dragonborn I took a dump yesterday and found some kryptonite near my bathtub. Sold it off to Lex Luthor

@@RamenBlox Found some kryptonite in my ass this morning, how much do they go for? I'm trying to get a good deal

@@RamenBlox I honestly read that as you taking a dump and kryptonite came out, which honestly given how there's so much fucking kryptonite in DC, I'd believe it.

It kinda is

@@martinjugolin2087 Nah😁.

@@arandomguy299 depression and edge lords are deep

@@martinjugolin2087 Joker is not that edgy in this comic ngl💀

Michael Scott: "that's what she said"

No, he wasn't. He was just making time to find all the other bombs across the city. But from the beginning, he took Joker's menace seriously, and decided to play on the mad clown's terms in order to win.

@@mauriciomongoy2025dude keep an eye on him all the time. Dude literally got speed almost equal to The Flash, that’s why he got all the the bomb in like nano second

I think that's just how Superman is, he takes every villain seriously, even if he doesn't show it on the surface, or if he realistically has no reason too.

@@Noobie2k7he takes a random bank robber with a pistol as seriously as he takes Lex. He knows that even he isn’t perfect and anything could happen.

@@Prince_Luci it makes me wonder if batman has some type of hubris thinking he is actually in control of very much.. like.. superman who is all powerful has the humility to know anything could happen and even though superman has some of the most power he doesn't act like he is completely in control and it even bothers him other ppl dont understand this but then batman has the nerve and naive audacity to tell an all powerful guy that he has it under control.. like if it bothers superman of all people what kind of self centered douche would act like they know better? batman lol

@@D_Vice88 Bats def has a world shatteringly large ego. And while it’s partially justified, even Superman has the ability to admit he isn’t perfect.

Well you can treat a stupid person as stupid, but never underestimating their stupid level to do stupid things

I guess, if you dont take in the reality of it

I guess the question is, is that a good or bad thing? Almost every version of the joker in media is pretty good. I mean, is it even entirely true?

@@BlueTyphoon2017 That’s the point. Iterations of the Joker in film and comic are amazing characters. But if the Joker were real and did all the awful things he had done, he would be an irredeemable monster.

and it's not the joker thematically that ppl really enjoy, it's elements of the joker that individual writers give him. by himself the joker is just a two-bit clown villain, it's his multiple iterations that make him so well-regarded. compare to spiderman, who just on his face thematically as a character is unique and worthy of praise, and that's not bc 'oh xyz's parker run was great' or 'tobey maguire played such a great spiderman' it's bc the themes of spiderman themself were really cool and each portrayal is just an adaptation of those themes

That line was so brutal it had me feeling like I was about to cry due to hurt feelings lmao

Terry figured this out a long time ago.

​@@megaman37456 That's why Terry likes Superman more despite being the new Batman

@@megaman37456 Terry Crews?

@@victordeluca7360 Terry McGinnis

@@victordeluca7360 this man really said Terry Crews 💀

😂

Spider-Man: 🤨

​@CharaGonzalez-lt7yw He always has a bad week, you and me both know the writers despise him.

What a lot of folk, Joker included, forget is that he was proven wrong in the Killing Joke. He was trying tae drive Gordon insane. He failed. Gordon flat out ordered Batman tae bring Joker in without killing him.

@@SCOOBMAN what I don't understand is why they hate him

Thank you for correctly and succinctly answering one of the most frustrating Superman criticisms of all time.

So true. That is why I think Superman is one of the superheroes that people only appreciate when they get a bit older. Or at least I did. The idea that someone with all that power chooses to ALWAYS do good, to remain hopeful despite the hopelessness of the world…you that realize that IS the subversion, and, more than that, is deeply inspirational.

I think he's boring. At least the One Punch Man series is self-aware about how absurd an infinitly powerful character is.

@@m0ther_bra1ned12 superman was first made like 100 years ago. You can't compare the very first god-like syperhero to one made in the last decade, the landscape of the genre and comic culture is completely different now.

If you love Superman then you'll definitely love Optimus Prime too. Also Jonathan Joestar

Therapist: "Okay, you got roasted by superman and now you have PTSD?" Joker: "Yes" Therapist: "He was right" Joker: *commits suicide*

@@MominEnjoyer good

​@@MominEnjoyerJason: "Now that's a killing joke."

​@@MominEnjoyer The Joker's death ending what we wanted

Clark gave him the Terry treatment. 💀💀

I think there's one crossover comic when the Joker meets the Punisher. Joker assumed Punisher would send him to jail like Batman always does. Once Joker realized just who he was dealing with, he basically shat himself

This makes superman a worse hero

@@martinjugolin2087 Nah, Batman's the worse hero. Superman knows how to get things done if he needs to

I'm not sure I can think of a marvel hero who wouldn't either kill the joker or let him die in one of his own plots.

@@Woogoo336 as they damn well should

It’s not really a perfectly written Superman. He’s written like how a fanboy would write him. Like a regular guy who seems completely capable of snapping and murdering people if he has a bad day. This comic would completely validate Batman’s fear and distrust of Superman and his power.

ehhh nahh@@Random1567

​@@Random1567Not really.

@@Random1567 Joker in any interpretation is a mass murderer. In long running interpretations he has repeatedly shown that penal institutions cannot hold him and he has no intention of reforming, immediately going back to inciting fear and death among civilians as soon as he was able. Frankly by this point Joker is less a test of a hero's restraint then he is an example of the perils of not taking decisive action when needed. This Superman is showing awareness of this and has basically put the hard line of 'you have had one chance with me, I am not going to give you another if you decide to threaten those I protect again'. Frankly the whole superman vs batman dynamic has always felt poorly written to their characters to me but if I was to judge this scenario I would say it was batman who earned fear and distrust not Superman.

@@Random1567 most regulars guys actually arent capable of snapping and murdering someone lmao, seek mental help

Lol, Red Hood would laugh at Batman.

Superman considering Batman a friend and ally is just as crazy and has no real logic to hold on either But it is as Batman once said, he's just a man, and Superman and other heroes can easily kill him if they wanted to as well. They have the ability. Sups just reminded him of that fact with the Joker. "If you cross the line, I won't hesitate to kill you. Just as you would do the same to me." (It may hurt him, but he'd do it)

@@girl1213 Why can't Superman consider him a friend? He grew up in Kansas and are friends with so many regular humans like Jimmy Olsen and Perry White. Batman is also allied with Oracle/Barbara even though she can no longer fight due to her disability.

@@girl1213 Superman and Batman usually get along just fine afaik. Batman made a huge gamble here that Superman wouldn’t tolerate, but that doesn’t make them enemies, and even at the end of the comic he wasn’t threatening to kill Batman, he was threatening to put down the Joker. He watched his friend do something stupid and told them he wouldn’t stand for it, nothing more.

Totally! Any other random writer will over power Joker over Superman like wtf

@@spkoftdvl it's a matter of popularity. As joker says superman is vague. This is a throwback to fans not wsnting superman but he's vague. but such great power can come with deep character if the writers use their head.

Exactly, it’s so annoying seeing Joker 🃏 win situations he should stand no chance in. About time he gets wrecked as easily as he should by someone like Superman.

@@MadMax-ii8gq Eh, he's got a lower-tier version of the Deadpool 4th-waller thing going for him. So... Almost quite literal plot armor.

@@patchwurk6652not even close to Deadpool’s plot amor and 4 wall breaking, the best I can say for joker is he’s a fucking lucky dude, but not even close to Deadpool’s plot armor

Exactly. And they are monsters from Darkseid to Doomsday but hey he believes in goodness. People don't seem to care when a certain space monkey with an orange gi and black hair spares people for believing in goodness.

@@TheUnseenPath Missing the point. Superman is saying he just GENERALLY doesn't kill people. GENERAL-ly is funny because he's killed Zod a few times (multiverses and things, and the best joke in the story if you read it like that). He's THREATENING to make an exception and kill the Joker. Not throw him a magic bean and let him try again. I love both Superman and Goku for the record.

@@TheUnseenPathcalling him a monkey is crazy

@@glitchy3963 I mean, it's what Frieza calls him

@@glitchy3963 He literally IS a monkey though. He's a primate with a tail, that's a monkey.

Thats My Superman. He can get the job done without falling into darknes

Is that a threat or an incentive? Sounds like an incentive to me.

Sounds like a solution to me lol@@acgearsandarms1343

When it comes to dealing with Batman? Yeah, Superman has learned to be cold with him. If Batman is going to play his games, Superman will drop the "boy scout" and remind him of his mortality. Because unlike Bruce, Superman doesn't have a code or a promise holding him back, just a choice. After all, that's what they are here for with one another: to remind one another that they are not invincible and keep the other in check. Batman was leaving his check by letting Joker run wild in Superman's city, so Superman put him back in check by reminding him that only HE cares about the Joker, not Superman.

I think the recent shows (superman and Lois + the new animated one) have captured it. Hopefully gunn does superman justice because man im sick of the "what if he was EVIL" or the "he's alien Jesus!" angles.

@@draysmusicalshtposts6340 "Alien Jesus" is especially annoying since alien Moses makes so much more sense.

It's called Man of Steel. Came out in 2013.

@@Auron1Roxas2 are you kidding?

​@mdbsonic5772 Edgy profile picture with a kingdom hearts reference in the hame? Yup theyre genuine lol

Then again, I think why Joker succeeded in the Injustice verse is that with Luthor being an actual good guy in there, there was nobody willing to psychologically push Superman until he snapped.

i like the idea of the joker always winning against batman but being out of his comfort zone with superman....however joker could very easily break him if he knew enough about him which makes it a fun dynamic of "keep him in your city, you have nothing to lose"

injustice superman wasn't exactly a boy scout when he was growing up either, he was slightly twisted from the start, hence why he was corruptible in the first place

@@A-Microwave yep , Injustice Superman wasn't really a boy scout , there are plenty things that changed in the very origins of multiple heroes in Injustice Universe.

@@AvengerofWarcraft For want of a nail, Metropolis was destroyed.

Wow you really set this into perspective, props 👏

Nah that's too tame: *Lex Corps starts destroying Wayne Enterprises stock*

Got that Saitama emotes on lock

Its JOCK who did the Brilliant art here (foolishly not visually noted anywhere). > Check out his DETECTIVE COMICS _Black Mirror_ story. Its an Easy Batman TOP 10 #MustRead story! _Jock,_ also just recently drew & wrote _A ONE DARK KNIGHT_ Batman one-off story, via DC BLACK LABEL (A magazine sized 140pg graphic novel). I had herd it was good.

Nah, Superman is just a soft hearted person so he's humouring the Joker.

Psychological entrapment.

The things he laughed at are pretty basic jokes you'd probably be able to hear at any ole stand up routine, not even close to dark humor. Not coming at you.. this is just a really big mischaracterization of the scene that ignores all of the context in the scene.

Dark humor is funny

Not really; it was a basic joke...

Technically it literally is the true good ending cus it’s canon

If only

Sounds more like a prequel, actually. Like, after that, Joker came back with an actual devious plan that killed millions.

​@@goblinounours this sounds like a good prequel lol. Joker always gets the last laugh.

​@@Solo_man69 So there IS a canon? I thought Marvel and DC didn't bother to have an actual continuity at this point

I think hes boring and terrifying to think about

For me, that depends more on his portrayal. This portrayal of Superman is AMAZING, but you don't always get this kind of respect for him.

To write Superman, you need to write a Good Person who is Pretending to be the Best Person imaginable

This version in particular seems a bit more on the scary side. I prefer the more wholesome versions.

@@matthewjutzen424i mean to be fair he’s dealing with a terrorist. he kind of has to be scary.

Good doesn't mean pushover. Especially when no one signed up for your nonsense and it might get people killed.

Whatever

I understand why he's mad, bat's really shouldn't be doing shit like that but bitch slapping him is pretty uncalled for and just unwise when he's literally one of like 5 people that can regularly lay soups out

@@Maxsmack prep time moment

@@ivettrivera5306 batman needed 32 quadrillion minutes of prep time to defend that slap

So that’s what happened .. Thx, I thought he’d wrecked his ride 😂😂

@@Joe-xo4yg He should’ve trashed the Batmobile for good measure 🤣🤣

@@Joe-xo4yg He did only that, literally on the next panel we see Batman still standing on the same spot while Supes moves away from the Batwreck towards him...

Exactly. Fuck batman

Batman hater so cringe

Amogus

Ye ig the comics both like to retcon themselves good ont tho

Jason Todd technically did it too when he told the Joker he isn’t ask insane as he likes people to think he is

lame. They nerfed Jokers intellect in this one

@@carlosandleon Wrong, they removed his plot armour.

"compromised what? i never said i had a code. i just don't do it cause i don't think i should. Until I do. Because it'd be easy. Easier than it would be for you, anyway." Batman: *scowls*

I find it outright funny that super man is meant to be better than the dark scary Batman but in reality their moral code when pushed I’d drastically different cus to Batman what happened to super man in injustice is just his daily life when his loved ones get hurt

I don't think Superman failed, Joker eventually got bored and left with no incentive to return.

@@Solo_man69 Tyler from Imaginary Axis convinced me that Batman NEEDS a code because he IS insane. In having a code on a piece of paper, written of lines he thinks he shouldn't cross, is helpful for himself. Insanity isn't a psychological term, it's a legal term with legal definitions; a person who is insane are those who can not differentiate right from wrong and wrong from right. Superman isn't immoral for not having a code like Batman, Kal-El knows right from wrong because he was raised right then Bruce who has many unresolved family issues.

​@@aut0mat1c11 yup pa and ma made it clear be nice kind and fair,but if it doesn't work kick thier ass.

This is how writer are supposed to write Superman

I mean he is almost as fast as flash...and can fly...he can just metroman whole metropolis...

​@@tonuahmed4227 He's almost as fast as the Flash until the Flash gets serious

Flash can literally stop time and make it go backwards,he's on a different level...

@@tonuahmed4227 so can superman. But flash is still faster.

LMAO

For real though, glad I discovered this, these two together and this portrayal of superman is perfect, wonder who the artist is too, phenomenal, the characters don't consistently look the same

I mean, the last person I heard making that threat was *Bill Cipher.*

He would turn into Splatman.

And with kryptonite superman turns into coughman

Yeah that’s true and plus we would see Batman on top of a broken Batmobile but in these comic strips we don’t see that.

@@martinjugolin2087and with pink kryptonite he turns into gayman

​@@martinjugolin2087except Batman having Kryptonite doesn't make sense If the Krypton fragments are in space it'd take decades or centuries to find just one of them If they however "landed" on earth then a few hundred dino-asteroids would've crashed onto earth and eradicated humanity

what about superboy prime💀

@mr amyr xxx That’s a different au tho

Injustice moment

@@BOOPBEEP859 same Clark Kent

Superman and Spider-Man are similar in that fashion.

Superman vs the Joker: very dangerous mind games, making sure that the joker ends up not finding anything funmy Batman vs Luthor: put down the laser gun or I'll buy half the company

To be fair, Luthor doesnt really neeeeed the kryptonite, he does often find other ways to match superman, depending on the interpretation. but you are right, Luthor's main defense against superman is hiding behind the law, and would leave himself vulnerable to batmans investigative skills.

Lex and Batman only work as characters when you realize the entire system is corrupt and they both exist because of it. Evidence literally wouldn't matter. Lex would call it a joke, and it would be.

​@@parry3439LOL

Lex could legit defeat batman, Batmans greatest strength is hes mind but Lex has basically made a living on running through each of Batmans apocalypse plans and actually trying them out in superman. When it comes to combat Batmans superior martial prowess pales in comparison to Lex's arsenal thats meant to fight SUPERMAN of all things on the "legal/detective" side Lex is more than a match to beat batman or bruce in a legal battle (which at this point is about bribing with copious amounts of money)

What tf are you talking about 4:20

You mean the hot topic part?

ironicly Super man also roasted joker fanboys as well.

Honestly, most Superman fans like Batman, he's a good friend and a good foil to Superman. We just don't like BatGod when he shows up in Batman's place.

" on average Superman fans tend to be way more chill" not really, not even close. Superman fans are overly aggressive just to mock Batman with arguments like "but he is just a HuMaN"

Actually fuck yeah I really liked this comic. Finally made a show of how shitty Batman is and how Superman is more cowboy cop than boy scout.

Joker is better as annoying prick than a mastermind, i mean, he can be both, but it need to have a balance

@@shawerful5209 All of them are just trying to annoy Batman. I mean, they found a obviously rich guy cosplaying in the night wearing a bat costume running amock.

batman is like the programmer trying to design a user experience without any understanding of how to design an app lol

no shit you are on his side, the writers made batman looks like an asshole here

Project OMAC

​@@parry3439Elon Musk truly is Bruce Wayne

Agreed, Batman should be ashamed of himself for pulling this. I'm glad Superman put his foot down and knocked Batman down a peg

He's the biggest joke of all.

@@Hekinsieden Burn.

​@@HekinsiedenNow THAT'S a punchline

Considering that, in some versions of his past, Joker was a failed comedian who desperately wanted to make people laugh; as echoed here when he says "You try and you try. You go out there every night and you give them your best stuff ...".; it's pretty weird that he'd get upset that Superman laughed at his jokes. Maybe it's been so long since anyone (other than Harley maybe) has complimented his humor he dosen't know how to react anymore? Maybe because his humor couldn't get real laughs and make people happy, his shattered psyche now gets gratification from using his twisted humor to insult, frighten and unnerve his "audience"? But when Batman laughed at his joke at the conclusion of The Killing Joke, he seemed to enjoy it. Maybe that was because he was genuinely relieved that Batman didn't "beat the crap out of .." him? But again, here he seems almost disappointed Superman didn't get angry enough to want to hurt him. Maybe the writers intentionally use such inconsistency to make him seem more unpredictable? Or maybe they don't care about consistency? Maybe I shouldn't be looking for rhyme & reason in the behavior of a bat-§μ!+ crazy fictional character? 😲

@@ronn-ammon8975 It sure is easier to make people laugh through chemical (Joker Toxin) or forceful means than actually being funny. Imagine telling the Joker that even (insert your least favorite comedian) makes more people genuinely laugh than he ever will.

Absolutely. It reminds of the Batman Beyond movie where Future Batman basically calls Joker an unfunny pathetic loser and laughs at him

Ripping his head from his shoulders works better.

At least Joker wasn't crazy enough to seek trouble with either LOBO or Spawn (the later definitely will enjoy killing Joker since Joker are no different from Violators)

You mean edgy and shit because you don’t already have enough edge lords

“the writers always make him into a joke” How many Superman comics have you actually read? Because he’s consistently like this when he’s angry….

Nice.

He is just a silly clown

But batman never failed for his mind games (Well sometimes, it would be boring otherwise), Jason did. (Red hood).

I mean, the size S shirt thing *was* legit funny.

also because joker often you know uses joker gas or creates a situation where if you do nothing people die honestly both joker and batman seem badly written the joker doesnt even seem like the type to use regular old bombs maybe as a way to get batman to play his game with him needing to do a thing otherwise the puppy orphanage explodes and joker doesnt seem like the kind of guy to go after the more light hearted superman joker cant exist without batman so this entire comic seems like bad writing

@@larsthememelord3383 not to mention, the joker is literally ontop of a the DAILY PLANET, and he didn't bother to read a single news article about superman? Like bro he didn't even know he has laser eyes. that's not prep time, that's called not trying.

Batman also cant collect 20 bombs in 3 seconds. That's another factor

Only Superman could, Batman has no superpowers with which to detect and dismantle the bimbas while conversing with the Joker

@@AnaMaria_2004 Batman is an absolute joke when it comes to the joker. If he actually wanted to dismantle the joker he could very easily. Except he doesn't, sure he has a code but he has killed before and killing the joker would be a great service to Gotham. One of the many inconsistencies with DC. Imo Joker is a D tier villain who is hyped up for no reason.

@@l6e6i6nlet’s use current Rebirth continuity as I am pretty sure this is a Rebirth story. Name a time where Batman has killed out of his own choice.

# 0001 Jason Todd did nothing wrong.........did I do the meme right?

It's an interesting way to deal with a God-like character. In a normal confrontation, we already know who's going to win. Unless Joker has the magic rock he doesn't stand a chance. Superman, then, in knowing that he can win no matter what, is free to try and talk to people. To take the nice route, or do something weird. If it goes wrong he can win as easily as a single punch.

Heck, Injustice Joker likely considered being murdered by Superman to be the pinnacle of comedy, getting a good guy to do evil and so on. Here? A good guy is doing good and not fearing him in the slightest

​@@llewelynshingler2173Getting rid of the Joker wouldn't be an evil. It would be a service to the world.

Yeah, that was a case of poor writing of Batman. The idea Batman would set this up in and of itself doesn't track to me. Him not knowing in time I could buy, plenty of other things that might have him busy (Rash-al-ghoul dragging him across the planet comes to mind.) to the point that Joker has the time for this. Knowing that Bruce has such a massive 'no killing' thing, most of the scene could have been kept intact, with Superman's warning being a case of 'I know this would upset you, but you need to understand I won't play with Joker coming to my town.' instead of this. Story needed one more minor editing pass and it'd be a 10/10.

@@Sorain1 Yeah but this is the kind of shit Batman pulls everytime with the Justice league. and he never or rarely apologies he always think he is right to do that kind of things and that he has everything under control. He once almost cause the death of entire justice league with one of his stunts. It's still extreme here with the Joker but it's not out of character.

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What's funny is the other time the Joker he went to metropolis (Superman animated) he kidnapped Lois Lane, and then he went back again, this time tricking supes into ending her (Injustice). So he's dangerous.

@@Klongu_Da_Bonguthat just the injustice version so it not canon, if joker tried that in the main timeline it wouldn’t go the same way.

We can assume that, like always, Batman was confident in his plan 100% that no civilian casualties would happen because, well, reasons. Also probably wasn't an exact plan, like the Joker got told by Batman to go fuck with Supes. Probably just figured he would sit and see what Supes would do in that situation. I guess anyway I don't know this comics connections let alone the fucking name since these comicbook youtubers never put the name in an easy to see spot, if at all.

...I mean, this feels like a dig by the writer on Batman's comics in general. Edgy in a childish sort of way.

@@colbyboucher6391 I could see that, but it doesn't really match the spirit of Batman at the end, which by your view would be the point. In my eyes though, it's very distracting since I've always seen Batman and Superman as being...for the lack of a better word, "better" than that. Since when it comes to what actually matters, they're a lot more similar than they are different from each other.

Usually the 90% of the time is the other way around.

Good. Most of the time it’s the other way around so it’s good that Batman gets humbled every once in a while

I am very sad for Batgod.

When has batman been egoistic? I think the most egoistic and arrogant hero ever is wonderwoman or flash

@@martinjugolin2087 Batman believes that he is never wrong and is in a place to judge others from a moral standpoint.

​@@martinjugolin2087arrogant/egoistic flash? Which flash dude, flash is not arrogant even reverse flash and godspeed, he says he is the most humble superhero and they hate him. if flash is egoistic then batman is more egoistic than flash. so flash and batman argue about "gotham girl" (and flash is right) then batman thinks he can beat flash with his tool flash comes straight to batman's face before batman can touch the button and almost hits batman and he says "not worth it"

⁠​⁠​⁠@@8630733isnt that every superhero dont they all impose their own view of justice upon others? difference is batman is human hes not some superpowered god he is mortal every fight he runs genuine risk in the end one bullet is all it takes also you are the him believing he is never wrong out of your ass he atleast actually works with law inforcement and his no kill rule makes sure that the villians get an actual fair trial. superman doesnt hes the man of steel he can catch every criminal and still have time for coffee and TV superman can rid the entire world of crime yet he doesnt, same goes for flash. superman lacking a no-kill rule is absolutely terrifying because now you can be killed without trial by some god to whom you never even stood a chance against he atleast isnt helping on the fragile states index (having fair jurisdiction is important on the index having a big blue judge jury and executioner doesnt help)

a corpse cant get a fair trial. superman is judge jury and executioner he decides justice and nobody can do anything about it. also batman changes drasticaly from writer to writer just look at adam west batman

Batman doesn't really have the luxury of treating his opponents with kid gloves, he's just a human Being lenient would get him killed, unlike Superman

​@@Psycorde he really does though, an average thug couldn't do anything to Batman, there's no need to break their arms, etc.

Heck, country life will give you a backbone and some emotional armor. Putting down Old Yeller is part of the package.

That’s based

Batman fan detected.

Or hear Bruce crying in his sleep because his playmate died lol.

Nah I Superman didn’t kill the Joker because he had NO need to. He beat Joker at his own game before the Joker could even start. As he said “You don’t entertain someone of his caliber”That’s why Joker said Metropolis is boring and Supe said he’d kill him if he ever came back because it was seconds from being a disaster.

Batman: You killed an inocent Superman:L+Ratio

Also batman has plans to deal with the entire Justice league. Most of which involve fates worse then death.

Ma kent: He does what? Superman: It was one time and lobo started it.

@@dannylopez5976 I still find it weird and kinda stupid that Bats is willing to come up with entire plans that involve killing his closest friends but STILL won't even _consider_ killing Joker.

@@jahrusalem3658 Because Joker, as Batman, is human. the JL is mostly composed of aliens, gods/divine beings and metahumans. they ARE a threat on a global scale because they can sneeze and destroy a city. Joker is just a man. As Batman is. Batman cannot kill Joker because that would be his own end as human and, as he stated many times, if he kills even one criminal, then he would not be able to stop from using the same solution for other criminals. So...he cannot kill other humans, that would put him at the same level of criminals. And he can't even ask or allow the JL to kill Joker for him, because that would basically entitle them to feel superior to humankind, which won't do either. It would be easy on a practical level? yes, of course. But morally, it would be one hellish decision no matter how you look at it.

@@jahrusalem3658 because killing Joker doesn't require a plan, you just strike a little harder or use a gun, like in one issue where random cop just shot at Joker and almost killed him.

Say it again, brother.

well thats an alt universe lol

@@lostlambv2939 yeah i know but this is a more accurate interaction between the two. Besides in recent comics injustice superman is currently interacting with supermans son so anything goes in comics and universes always collide

@@jasonhearn5818 I mean, having your wife, your unborn child and your entire city vapourized by a madman who wanted attention would make anyone an emotional wreck. Remember, Frank Castle decided to just kill every criminal ever because someone completely unrelated murdered his wife and child. Imagine if they nuked NY.

emotionally reckless doesn't sound quite right though. I mean anybody that basically got acid tripped into killing their own pregnant wife, and also most of the city he calls home, is gonna result in some severe mental damage. The flaw was that AFTER the big initial event instead of supes grieving properly and eventually carrying on he just went straight up Professor Pyg "I'm gonna make you perfect whether you like it or not" evil.

lol

That's a little bit off character but i will allow it :D

@@wildhunt6350 i think most people would tell joker to kill himself lmao

@@parry3439 Agreed.

The assumption that Supes *didn't* disarm all those bombs (and disable the detonator to boot) at super-speed off panel before chucking them to Giggles the Murder Clown is a silly one. Clark is being written smart here. He wasn't leaving anything to chance, and that includes letting the loon blow himself up. Doesn't mean he had to tell Joker that. Letting him still think he had the option to go boom? Priceless. In the words of Slappy Squirrel (an infinitely better comedian than Joker), now that's comedy.

lowtiersuperman

Bro I just realised

It stands for Swag

@@TimmyMcGowan Swaggity swag

@@TimmyMcGowan Swag-Man.

Kal-El could have just grabbed Joker , flown to the moon then dropped Joker, and waved bye,bye. Joker is really lucky not to have.. well I won't go any further.

I mean.. Superman's whole deal is that he will always hold back. or he Might destroy everything around him. yup, his breathing could end everything probably.

​@@DoctorRobertNeville and then superman thinks killing is okay and injustice starts, then your boy scout gets Molly whooped my a human 😂😂

​@@TheManWhoFlys22 you know that only happens bc the writers suck off batman every time right? there's simply no way a human being could ever have a chance against Superman who doesn't even need to be close to you to kill you, he can literally throw a meteor to your general direction and kill you

@@TheManWhoFlys22 a human with the physical abilities of superman that is

lex luther has no power lol

​@@K1ngmo_MBBut he shows up on mechanized suit designed to fight God ... Not in a purple suit with an acid flower as hes secret trick

@@proxy90909 that goes for batman as well

Agreed. I think one way a non-superpowered villain can actually give Superman trouble is to have such good publicity and (outside of being a supervillain) do lots of good like donating to charities, that Superman feels conflicted about stopping them

@@K1ngmo_MB Exactly joker vs superman is one sided superman stomp, Lex vs Batman would have Lex give him a run for hes money or even beat him, cause most of the time batmans suits wouldnt be as good as Lex, yes batman prepares to fight superman but Lex actually fights superman multiple times he has more theory making supersuits he has straight up practice. (The hellbat being the exception but bruce didnt even make that one it was League effort)

Lois lane: Nonononono wait wait wait wait wait

But later, in front of Batman, Superman admits that he actually knew Joker was a threat. The best way to neutralize him was to treat him like he wasn't a threat.... Because if he got mad or even showed that he found Joker a threat, Joker would have come again. Joker probably never thought he'd beat Superman, he just wanted the Super man's reaction...

@@Solo_man69 Man, that line from Punisher works everywhere, doesn't it?

@@samanawayadatta891 yeah yeah yeah, yeah continue continue continue continue continue

@@Solo_man69 Screw that. Meta-Lois steps out from behind the Daily Planet globe and puts a bullet through Joker's brain right then and there. "We are *not* doing that again. I am sick of getting winding up in the metaphorical fridge for the sake of Clark's character development. Find some other motivation, you lazy hacks."