SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE (1987) Revisited: Superhero Movie Review

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If you've been watching DC Films Revisited, you'll know that in our episodes on Superman III and Supergirl, we came close to reaching the nadir of the franchise, but truly the series hit rock bottom when the Salkinds sold the rights to perhaps DC's most beloved character to Cannon Films, who made SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE (1987). Everyone, including star Christopher Reeve, went into this with good intentions, and initially, this was supposed to be a lavish, timely sequel. But when the budget got slashed in half at the eleventh hour, what we ended up getting was a superhero movie that's so bad it permanently killed the franchise and is often cited as one of the worst movies of all time. Is it as bad as they say? Join us this week on DC Films Revisited!
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@SIKE01 2 жыл бұрын

once again, thank you RICHARD DONNER and CHRISTOPHER REEVE for making the first and greatest superhero movie. Rest Gentlemen.

@krispyskins2122 2 жыл бұрын

No gravity AND no air…. How Lacy survived that space ride with Nuclear Man I’ll never know.

@breadfan9 Жыл бұрын

The gravity means nothing. You mean no air and no SUIT to protect from the -113 degree deep freeze

@1masivac Жыл бұрын

What about just being disintegrated when leaving earth?

@jacobpatton7587 Жыл бұрын

A wizard did it.

@billybollockhead5628 11 ай бұрын

There’s gravity in space. I’m more worried about temperature, and speed of travel

@gokinsmen 2 жыл бұрын

It's still a joy to watch Reeve play the character, especially when he's Clark. In fact, all the comedic stuff with Lacy and the Daily Planet is great. It's just the action half of the movie that's hilariously awful. Reeve deserved so much better than Superman 3 & 4.

@gibbsm 2 жыл бұрын

To me Reeve was so good as Superman, III and IV are my fave. Richard Lester is to blame also, but as a kid I loved these. I also rewatched Supergirl and still liked it.

@davidmcmahon4633 2 жыл бұрын

So true! His Clark was always the best.

@MichaelMartin-qe5ye 2 жыл бұрын

Cannon Films exec 1: We should keep doing these Chuck Norris and Charles Bronson movies, they're always profitable. Exec 2: Or we could make a He-man movie and a Superman movie and bankrupt the studio? Exec 1: Sounds good, pass the cocaine.

@CommodoreFloopjack78 2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think having Christopher Reeve play both the roles of Superman and Nuclear Man would've been freaking SPECTACULAR. That change alone would've made the film immensely better.

@SkarrGaming 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe if they didn't do the whole good Superman vs bad Superman just one film earlier.

@randallrutherford1384 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe so.... But then it would have been just like part 3..... Good Superman vs bad Superman.

@BigAL68xyz Жыл бұрын

If they had done that, it would have been better to just call the guy Bizarro instead of Nuclear Man. Now THAT would have shown a bit more of Reeve's range.

@TheEqualizer-iw1bz 2 жыл бұрын

There’s always gravity in space, but it’s variable. But there’s no life support for humans without a spacesuit though.

@glazdarklee1683 2 жыл бұрын

I was lucky enough to see the original Superman when it originally came out in theaters. For a teenager like me, it was a bit overwhelming. The scene with the helicopter stands out as being one of those mind-expanding scenes of which late 70s cinema had many. It hurt me a little inside to see the sequels deteriorate in quality. Fortunately, we will always have the first.

@tbc9096 2 жыл бұрын

Second one was very good though. Regardless of which version you watch.

@bonghunezhou5051 2 жыл бұрын

@@tbc9096 Indeed, the "Donner Cut" of II is far better than Superman 3, even though 3 had clearly better production values ☺🎬

@randallrutherford1384 2 жыл бұрын

The only one I don't enjoy much is part 3.

@alienlife7754 2 жыл бұрын

Still the most successful Superman movie of all time. None of the newer movies did as well.

@integrity101 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 4 hour version of Donners Superman (S1+S2). I'll never watch the theatrical releases again. WB needs to properly put out the Donner Epic out

@archangel5627 2 жыл бұрын

When Cannon slashed Superman’s budget at the last minute, that money went to Cannon’s another big project at the time which was Masters of the Universe. It’s such a shame Cannon completely mishandled Superman 4. When you think about it, the film had a lot of things going for it. The producers were able to get Christopher Reeve and the rest of the original cast back, as well as all the technicians who were responsible for all the optical and visual effects. Unfortunately, when they cut the budget they lost a large chunk of the special effects department and it really shows when you watch the final cut of the film. If the movie had its appropriate budget and a tighter script, the film would’ve been much more successful. Even with all of its flaws, somehow I still manage to enjoy Superman 4 as an extremely guilty pleasure.

@jaredbaratta8589 2 жыл бұрын

CANNON, not CANON, dumbass.

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

Part III is my guilty pleasure film of the franchise. This one, not so much.

@kamdan2011 2 жыл бұрын

9:44 The farm and barn looked pretty spot on from the original to me.

@BooshmanLee 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent recreations I'd say.

@stevebragg4256 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, movie his issues but this isn't really one

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

That caught me off guard as well. I wouldn’t have known it was a recreation of it wasn’t mentioned. It looks absolutely accurate.

@chriscox3709 2 жыл бұрын

Christopher Reeve is still Superman to me. He is what I hold everyone who dons the red cape up to, to this day. Superman 1 and 2 are to me anyways two of the best superhero movies ever made, minus some of the special effects. The Superman theme is classic And Lois performing " Can You Read My Mind" gives me chills. Melissa Benoist is an amazing Supergirl and I wish they would make a movie and let her play Supergirl. If wishes were horses, we would all wear red capes...

@derworfnet 2 жыл бұрын

While deeply flawed and affected by an clearly insufficient budget, I still have a soft spot for this movie... mostly on account of the impression I have that the people involved in its production (with the possible exception of the higher ups at Cannon) *tried*, that they had their hearts at the right place. The Anti-Nuclear-Weapons-theme, while the execution was lacking, was well intentioned and most Actors, especially Reeves, still give solid performances (and Hackman is always a joy to watch). Some of the Special Effects - the model work and the Matte Paintings - look fine. And the Score is actually very good: John Williams himself wrote three new Themes for it and Alexander Courage then did a great job combining these Themes with those form the 1978-Movie and some motifs he himself contributed. Honestly, I wouldn't be against a proper release of the 134-Minute cut. I'm curious how well it would stack up against the version we ultimately got.

@suedenim 2 жыл бұрын

The one thing about this movie that I genuinely like is Mariel Hemingway as Lacey. She's gorgeous, and it's fun that she's specifically attracted to CLARK, not Superman.

@CrackSparrowGaming 2 жыл бұрын

I always thought she was very odd looking especially in movies after this.

@BooshmanLee 2 жыл бұрын

Just like Lana in part 3 then.

@bryanqueensberry6215 10 ай бұрын

I think they recreated the Kent farm pretty good actually. I remember seeing a broadcast of this on TBS in the 90s & it had the deleted scenes with the special effects complete. I remember it well because I'd seen this a lot on vhs & seeing those deleted scenes confused 12 year old me because I didn't know that almost every movie made had deleted scenes until then

@randallrutherford1384 2 жыл бұрын

There is interest in an extended cut of this film because there is a lot of extra great footage that got cut out. Release the Sydney J. Furie cut! Finish the films special effects. Wow

@Cyril29a 2 жыл бұрын

7:05 There absolutely IS gravity in space. What keeps things in orbit and the reason things float in space is because the forward motion of orbiting objects is as fast or faster than the speed at which they fall. So as things get pulled down by gravity they are also moving forward and since the earth is round the distance forward they travel keeps them from getting closer to the planet. It's like falling, with style. Since Superman and NuclearMan can fly and hover on their own they aren't in orbit so they experience gravity like those of us on earth. If you go 1000 km straight up and you don't move in an orbit you will feel gravity from the earth pulling you down almost as strongly as if you were on the planet.

@BuckarooBanzai84 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, true, but I think the problem is that in the movie, they're not very clear just how far out in space they're actually supposed to be. But good point nonetheless, and I really like your online-handle! Old school! =)

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

I was amazed the focus was on a lack of gravity instead of a lack of oxygen. It’s pretty obvious they are out of Earth’s atmosphere.

@Morgil27 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like if the budget hadn't been so low, if so many scenes werent cut, and if the script had gone through a few more drafts, this could've been a good movie.

@shoesncheese 2 жыл бұрын

damming with faint praise

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

I agree! If this movie had been a different movie with a higher budget, it could have not been bad.

@TheHistoryPrincess 2 жыл бұрын

I love the OG superman movies. Always watched them with my nan and would happily sit and watch them now over the new ones. It was only a few years back that I even knew there was a superman 4 as it came on TV! I didn't have a clue there was another one after 3. But after watching part of it as seeing the suspension wires that you were clearly not supposed to see...I knew why lol

@KonElKent 2 жыл бұрын

I have a nostalgic fondness for Superman IV, and I don't think it's as bad as the popular piling on would lead one to believe. That said, I'm not blind to its objective problems. And after Cannon screwed over Street Smart and then slashed the budget for Superman IV, I strongly believe that Reeve should have lawyered up and walked away.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

You could be right, but, I think he, was, the kind of guy who mirrored his fictional persona, and, didn't want to make waves, also, ending a film's production, puts a lot of, less-fortunate, people, out of work, as well.

@joey_dangerously 2 жыл бұрын

Reeve did this movie so that he could make Street Smart. Which is actually a decent movie and the breakout performance for Morgan Freeman.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Not, to mention, that he's, also, Playing Against Type, as a murderously violent pimp.

@kuribayashi84 Жыл бұрын

John Williams was asked to do the score but was unavaible to commit full-time to the project, as he was busy with Concerts at the time. As far as I know, he himself suggested Courage and even found time to contribute three new Themes. And this Score ended up being the by far best thing about the movie.

@LordmonkeyTRM 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of the exterior shots were filmed in Milton Keynes in the U.K.

@joemills4603 2 жыл бұрын

Was just about to say that myself. :) 07:56 Milton Keynes train station.

@archangel5627 2 жыл бұрын

Oliver Harper made an excellent behind the scenes documentary on Superman 4 with a focus on Milton Keynes. The production crew really did luck out when they found Milton Keynes as the backdrop for so many scenes in Superman 4.

@wpflesh6510 2 жыл бұрын

And I only knew Milton Keynes as the place of my favorite Queen gig ever in 1982……Well I know it for something more now thanks!

@LordmonkeyTRM 2 жыл бұрын

Also one of the interiors was filmed in Sir Frank Markem(?) high school...

@TheAwmoody 2 жыл бұрын

In my head canon David Brent was just starting his job at Wernham Hogg.

@kagemaru259 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when this came out and BEGGING my folks to take me to 7-11 so I can get one of the Superman 4 Slurpee collector cups because you got a free poster with it. Got the cup (One of Superman on the moon with the flag and a portrait of Nuclear Man) but the posters were gone.....

@ojmatthew 2 жыл бұрын

I LOVED Superman IV as a 80s kid (and Masters of the Universe). The faults are only noticed later when I grew up. Therefore it was a great film for me at the time.

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 2 жыл бұрын

Think about what those two movies could have been if they both had really good budgets to work with. Plus the revenue from home video and DVD sales would still be keeping them going.

@JoBloOriginals 2 жыл бұрын

I agree - I only realized it was awful as a teen.

@jabig1 2 жыл бұрын

It's still one of the best movies from my childhood

@yurdp 2 жыл бұрын

I place part IV in the so bad it’s good category. I really enjoy watching it. One further, I’m pretty sure I’ve watched part IV more times than any other chapter.

@raoulhery Жыл бұрын

like Batman and Robin. This cheesy movie is a joy to watch. Unfair criticism

@yurdp Жыл бұрын

@@raoulhery I’d like to agree with you, but that one in particular I cannot forgive.

@raoulhery Жыл бұрын

@@yurdp come on!!! Arnie punchlines, cheesy sets, flashy costumes, bad acting, bat credit card, it has it all. LOOOLLLL

@Morgil27 2 жыл бұрын

Christopher Reeve will always be the best Superman in my eyes. Though second place goes to Tim Daley in the 90s animated series.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

In college, we, were, asked who the best, Batman, was, I named, Kevin Conroy, not, only, was, I, not, laughed out, of the room, but, many others agreed, with, me.

@montelhelem8707 9 ай бұрын

@@matthewdaley746why are you using so many commas

@emmacrawford11 9 ай бұрын

Yes Christopher Reeves will always be Superman RIP Christopher Reeves

@matthewdaley746 4 ай бұрын

@montelhelem8707 Quirks, unfortunately are possessed-owned.

@matthewdaley746 4 ай бұрын

@emmacrawford11 He was irreplaceable, unquestionably.

@HectorJW2007 2 жыл бұрын

The producers or the studio wanted a "Music by John Williams" credit but Williams was unavailable due to his Boston Pops commitments and at the the time he wasn't scoring many movies. But he did compose three new original themes: the Nuclear Man theme, Lacy's theme and a theme for Jeremy. He also recommended Alexander Courage to write the score using his original themes and the new ones. Mr. Courage created a fantastically epic score created mostly from Williams material. I think that if you listen the score without the movie you might imagine the most epic Superman movie ever.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

There, are, few, Cinematic Sins, greater, than, wasted, soundtracks/composers, John Barry, was, a depressingly frequent victim of this, throughout his, later, years.

@robertcarr4172 Жыл бұрын

This whole movie broke my heart as a kid. Can you imagine if Cannon sold the rights to another studio, and they then waited a year or 2 and raised funds for a proper budget? The actual idea of the film was not bad, and I do think Chris playing nuclear man could have been awesome. But it was crazy to watch a film that came out 10 years after the first, look 10 years worse that than the first

@loftlegacy 2 жыл бұрын

It's hilarious that a lot of the Metropolis scenes is filmed in Milton Keynes, including outside of the railway station. I remember seeing this at the cinema as a kid and thought it was OK but any Christopher Reeve Superman movie is fine by me.

@elliottdiaz1687 2 жыл бұрын

Masters of The Universe budget was not cheap for its time at $22 million. For example... Aliens: $18 million Back to The Future: $19 million Predator: $18 million Robocop $14 million Top Gun $15 million Lethal Weapon $15 million

@chriscox3709 2 жыл бұрын

It was a garbage movie though. I remember going to see it as a kid. I was SO excited. He-man was my boy. It had very little to do with Masters of the Universe beyond the character names. I left the theater sad. "I don't have the power to like this garbage movie" 🗡️🏰

@Kings_Gambit 2 жыл бұрын

So Jon Cryer was a young Lenny Luthor and now, in the Arrowverse, Lex himself o.o

@iwasanangryyoungman 2 жыл бұрын

Which was Cryer's main motivation in getting Lex Luthor done right...given his experiences in this rightful stinker and his being a longtime fan of the character

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

@@iwasanangryyoungman Sadly, that devotion falls on blind eyes for a TV universe that was barely being watched at the time, and is now all but defunct.

@GeorgeCostanzais10. 8 ай бұрын

Me and my neighborhood friends were the definitive target audience for Cannon movies: Rambo-loving-macho-brats of ages ranging from 8 to 14, we couldn’t get enough of those movies and were even able to identify that ‘Golan/Globus’ was an indication of a movie made for us. We were ALL first in line for Stallone’s Over The Top and Chuck Norris’ Delta Force. It got to a point where the parents took measures to limit our VHS rentals of ‘violent’ movies. For me, the turning point was watching the awful Masters of the Universe and Superman IV, I was coming of age as a rather sensible guy and suddenly Cannon films lost their appeal to me.

@edvaira6891 2 жыл бұрын

Say what you will about Reeve’s reasons for getting involved in this (his $4 million payday was bigger than his first three movies combined, I’ve heard!) but, holding firm to insisting Cannon make any OTHER film he chose led to 1987’s STREET SMART, which was a pretty solid movie for him and gave Morgan Freeman’s career A HUGE BOOST (as well as the first of his FIVE Oscar Nominations)

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Not, to mention, that it, also, featured him, Playing Against Type, (well).

@danfors1333 2 жыл бұрын

5:29 So Ozzy Osbourne's orgin story is that he was created by Lex Luthor. Makes sense.

@kamdan2011 2 жыл бұрын

8:19 Matches what we saw in Superman II and in the real life moon landing pictures.

@geomfilms 2 жыл бұрын

As a kid Superman 4 was my 2nd favorite superman. 1) Superman 2, 2) Superman 4, 3) Superman 3, and 4) Superman. I think i never really watched the 1st superman fully....and i knew it didn't have a 'strong' villian. So i thought it was boring. I didn't like most of 3, but i liked superman vs clark and the scary robot lady at end. But as a kid i liked 2 and 4 because of the strong villians and i found 4 to be funny. I loved the scene with clark/superman trying to be at the same place at the same time and I liked the gym scene when clark puts that idiot bully in his place by throwing him the weights at him. I knew the movie wasn't perfect but as a kid i really liked it.

@srky4346 2 жыл бұрын

Jon Cryer as Linny saying,” uooohhhhnooooo,” is so freaking funny though.

@The_Texorcist 2 жыл бұрын

As bad as it is I feel it’s better than Superman 3. I mean that’s not a high bar to pass. I liked the plot, I even liked most of the characters. I do agree the Cannon touch is definitely felt with the pretty bad practical effects. Still though I hate part 3 with a passion and how it went too far with the slapstick nonsensical stuff so I guess that’s why I give part 4 a pass.

@jpaxonreyes 2 жыл бұрын

7:05 - There's definitely gravity in space. The reason we see astronauts float around is because they're in freefall/orbit. Oxygen is the problem with that scene, not the gravity.

@cygryl 2 жыл бұрын

Reeve will allways be my Superman.

@brysimm404 2 жыл бұрын

Superman IV is the “Star Trek V” of Superman movies. Such a shame.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Superman III, was, the, STTMP, of, Superman, films, the buildup, meant, that disappointment, was, basically, guaranteed.

@b_side8669 2 жыл бұрын

It Wouldn’t make any sense to even have reeves as the villain for a second time in a Superman movie

@FatNorthernBigot 2 жыл бұрын

“…and that’s why I’m Superman IV: The Quest for Peace.” - Family Guy.

@StephenSatterfieldTheSLSway 2 жыл бұрын

We got the excellent Street Smart out of this Superman IV, so it is not a total loss. Celebrate GOLAN and GLOBUS !

@clubnientiendo 2 жыл бұрын

There IS gravity in space.. the planets move like they do thanks to it

@thefonzkiss 2 жыл бұрын

That’s incredibly simplistic and irrelevant to what’s being discussed here.

@derekhofstetler3998 2 жыл бұрын

The point made in the video is that you won't fall in space. You will either keep following your trajectory or float endlessly.

@catfishandbass8680 Жыл бұрын

Christopher Reeve wasn't the greatest person to work with, but he was the greatest Superman to fly with. Rest in Peace

@asifkhan4822 2 жыл бұрын

I've never been able to watch this movie. But I read somewhere that had it not been for the Salkinds. Richard Donner had actually envisioned the Superman Movies as franchise. That never happened but at least we got the Lethal Weapon series from, I believe if my memory is correct it's the only franchise where he directed every entry up until 1998's Lethal Weapon 4.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

No, he did direct, Lethal Weapon 4, unfortunately, only the original, was, written by Shane Black, because, Joel Silver got a big head, and, tore up his script, for, Lethal Weapon 2, as a result, we would get, an, obscenely overrated mess, and, two more, atrocious sequels, Richard Donner, was, a total coward, for, allowing this to happen, no question.

@hitfan2000 2 ай бұрын

The idea for the movie was good-but its execution was quite terrible. I liked the concept of Superman using his power to rid the world of atomic weapons. In fact, he struggles with this idea and the movie dealt with this with nuance and thoughtfulness (basically, should he interfere with the affairs of humankind or not). He also had to consider his late father's wishes for him to not interfere with the affairs of mankind--but then if Superman has the capability to prevent nuclear annihilation, why stand aside because of principles? (and they are lofty ones I might add) Moreover, this theme was entirely consistent with the early comics where Superman did similar actions as well where he would destroy the weapons being produced by war profiteers.

@Critic_Chris90210 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still sadden I was too young and not even born yet to see any of Reeve's Superman films. I don't care what people say despite the flaws in it, I still enjoy 4th film over the comedic theme toned of Superman 3. I actually wished Mariel Hemingway was found to be casted as Lois Lane than Kidder cause imo, I think she would've had played the character better and closer. And I still loved Reeve's idea of the story and the idea of Nuclear Man. The guy was he'll bent on getting rid of Superman. Loved Jackie Cooper as Perry White best till this day aswell.

@joey_dangerously 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know Superman 4 existed till like early 2000s.

@chasehedges6775 2 жыл бұрын

Same.

@donaldduck7461 2 жыл бұрын

1 & 2 from Donner were the best films.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but, The, Salkinds, had, to, get, petty, and, fire, him, kind of, like, when Joel Silver threw away, Shane Black's original script, for, Lethal Weapon 2, resulting, first, in, obscenely overrated tripe, followed by, two terrible atrocities, really awful.

@donaldduck7461 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 happens all the time in Hollywood mate

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldduck7461 Doesn't make it right, at least, DHWAV, was, on par, with, the original, despite, inexplicably, being rated, second-worst, on, RT.

@CptBerns 2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why people hate this movie. I saw it in the theater when it was first released. Agreed, compared to Superman The Movie and Superman II it paled. But from Superman III it was a huge step up. Superman III was a terrible movie. But Superman IV made me think they were on the right track again.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Disappointment often becomes more, than, hate, that's, what happened, yes.

@intheclear3492 2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone gets it

@matthewdaley746 Жыл бұрын

@@intheclear3492 Yeah, it's truly, not, as obvious as we thought when we began this discussion, but, we, eventually, figured it out.

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

They hate it because it’s bad, and it’s objectively worse than part III on every level.

@CptBerns Жыл бұрын

@@SumDumGy First of all, there is no such thing as objectivity. Secondly, Superman III was as bad as it could ever get in my opinion. Anything is better than III. Even the worst episode of Lois & Clark was way better than III in my book. For me IV wasn't half as bad as III.

@robwhelehan 2 жыл бұрын

Amazed that I never noticed the John Cryer connection.

@ThomasBryant 2 жыл бұрын

Well done on the telling of Christopher Reeves as Superman thru the years. He wasn't perfect, and I am sure had so many flaws as a human being. But through his struggles later in life.... the hope and determination he gave human kind until the very end was (IMO)... his greatest achievement. SuperMan Foever!

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and, for, all of the, (legitimate), problems, The, Salkinds, had, they figured, (correctly), that it, was, far easier to bulk up the right actor, than, to teach somebody, with, muscles to act.

@frankreynolds445 Жыл бұрын

Nuclear Man is my favorite super villain. Super Man 4 was the best comedy ever made.

@inspectorgadget346 22 күн бұрын

I can see Nuclear Man from Superman IV standing on the volcano drawing in the energy. 😊

@davidmartinez52420 2 жыл бұрын

I saw this movie as a kid and remember liking it. Shows what I knew back then...lol. I think this was also the first Superman movie I ever saw, too.

@davidmcmahon4633 2 жыл бұрын

I rarely read the novelization of movies but this time I did. Hate to say it but the novelization was way better then the movie. Get the book! Enjoy the book! Though Reeves still did very wonderful Clark Kent in the movie. That was the best part of the movie.

@Amarth13 2 жыл бұрын

As a kid this was my favorite Superman movie just because of the fight scenes between the two.

@A-Man79 2 жыл бұрын

"Briefly" ended the franchise for nearly 20 years!!

@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV 2 жыл бұрын

Black with no stars is how space looks, unless you are on earth... :)

@magnuslundberg9675 2 жыл бұрын

Christopher Reeve didn't pump himself up for Superman 4, he's much less muscular here then he was especially in Superman 2 and 3 and even in Superman 1. That also was a big misstake.

@JonathanRossRogers 2 жыл бұрын

7:06 Somebody should have told whoever wrote this video that there is gravity in space. Maybe they confused gravity with air?

@fredlandry6170 2 жыл бұрын

Someone should have also told them there was also no oxygen in space.

@kellyweingart3692 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂🤦🏼‍♀️

@raphaelturtle4146 2 жыл бұрын

Cryer crushed it as Lex Luthor. The show he was in was pretty bad. But HE was great. Always 5 steps ahead. Threatening. Imposing. Ruthless. Best live action Luthor by far. I hope we get more of him. With better material to work with...

@nicknoga564 2 жыл бұрын

7:10 …”there’s no gravity in space.” Yes, there is.

@thomasrude4512 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and honestly not that bad of a movie. Better than Superman 3 or Supergirl.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Gene Hackman reading the phone book is better, than, Robert Vaughn, and/or, Faye Dunaway, doing, The, Collective Works Of William Shakespeare, it, was, still just, totally, awful, period, we're done.

@Terelon Жыл бұрын

I think they say when you're in space or specifically on the moon you won't see the stars so that was realistic for that scene, Laci wouldn't have survived as long as she did in space flying with NM, I wish they would've left it at the 135 min version, I hate when they severely truncate films, they did the same w/ Supergirl originally in the U.S.

@Phil-pb9be Жыл бұрын

Grow up watching Quest for Peace and it is one of my favorites! I honestly like it better than the first movie. Could be because it was always on TV when I was a child and I saw it before I saw the first movie. Superman 2 is the absolute best though.

@TheChrisHype 2 жыл бұрын

We could have had a Superman film directed by Wes Craven... We are in the darkest timeline...

@damaniqphillip2756 2 жыл бұрын

Wow 😮

@sethkaicer319 2 жыл бұрын

Superman 4, the Quest for more money.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

They didn't find it, indeed, they made less, than, the previous atrocity.

@sethkaicer319 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 I was a small boy when I saw Superman 3 in the movie theater I actually liked it.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

@@sethkaicer319 You, were, lucky that you didn't see the first two in a theater, you would have cried, like, a baby.

@sethkaicer319 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 I saw those in the movie theater as well my friend I'm old. The first one is the best one of course. Then they gradually got worse as it went on. I have fond memories of seeing the first three Superman movies in the theaters. I did not go to see the fourth one.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

@@sethkaicer319 My condolences, the only, four-film, sagas to fall, that, far, and, that, fast, were, Jaws, Karate Kid, and, Lethal Weapon.

@heeeeeresrossy 2 жыл бұрын

I've watched and read nearly everything to do with Superman 4. It remains a real travesty that Canon penny pinched, as the film would have made perfect sense had it not been cut. The original budget would have also allowed for much better special effects. But that doesn't stop me liking this film. It's kinda guilty pleasure.

@archangel5627 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you. Even though Canon slashed its budget at the last minute, which went to Canon’s another big live action sci-fi film project, Masters of the Universe, I still enjoy Superman 4 for what it is. It’s definitely a guilty pleasure of mine as well.

@heeeeeresrossy 2 жыл бұрын

@@archangel5627 absolutely. And the sad thing is, Masters of The Universe was an equal flop. The Canon Group simply overstretched themselves. I mean, 40+ films a year is just madness! Because of that, their films all looked cheap & nasty with some atrocious writing. I really don't know what Reeve was thinking about getting involved with this. As soon as Golan & Globus slashed the budget, he should have ran a mile. But of course, if you're offered piles of cash to reprise a role, you're hardly gonna say no.

@rwboa22 10 ай бұрын

Even though it didn't do very well, "Superman Returns" did do justice (no pun intended) by making Superman III and Superman IV non-canon (the film taking place after the events of Superman II, whether it be the theatrical version or the Donner Cut), although the biggest issue with "Superman Returns" was that of the timeline (early 2000s instead of early 1980s, even though with this movie, it was completely financed by Warner Bros. and not by the Salkinds).

@iwasanangryyoungman 2 жыл бұрын

"At least Lenny had the glow-up" Jon Cryer knew what he was getting into when he took over the Lex Luthor role in the Arrowverse.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

Too bad he didn't know what he, was, getting into when he, was, on, 21/2, Men, horrible.

@shoesncheese 2 жыл бұрын

He was shockingly good as Lex Luthor until the final arc of the final season. Loved him until he found love, so to speak.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

@@shoesncheese Melissa Benoist makes Helen Slater look, like, Meryl Streep, there's little doubt her career's done when the program does end.

@kamikazeekobra7187 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 2 1/2 revived his career ... might have been utter toilet trash but it was syndicated trash that gave him a jump start

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

@@kamikazeekobra7187 Yeah, but, part of me felt horrible that he got put next to actors that, were, inept to that degree.

@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын

“Briefly ended the franchise? I’m not sure 20 years is brief. The Jewel of the Nile was a hit? Why does everyone seem to hate it? No gravity in space? What about oxygen?? How did you miss that? The dilapidated farm in this film looks *exactly* like the one in the first film. Those are bolt cutters, not sheers. Sheers are made for cutting shrubbery.

@EntretenimientoConPerspectiva 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Great and exelsior video retrospective

@spittinvenom9671 2 жыл бұрын

This dumpster fire 🔥 was a missed opportunity for a proper Reeve send off. A travesty of justice. Reeves was a godsend. RIP 🪦

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

I'm, actually, impressed that they got him to come back, at all, because, unlike, Margot Kidder, he, actually, had a thriving career.

@Paul-wh8np 2 жыл бұрын

I'm buzzing for the Batman reviews 🙌

@Tarotlynx 2 жыл бұрын

I tend to look at this movie as being about Lacy Warfield slowly learning what journalism is, and isn't. Well, wasn't. A shame they didn't go that angle. It might've compensated a bit.

@gibbsm 2 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of salient points on the monetization of the news in this movie, so I appreciate that. Lacy in space was hella stupid tho.

@ivane5110 2 жыл бұрын

there's a great fan edit of the Great Wall scene, adding red blurring and showing it as superspeed, something even then we said should've been the explanation. Nuclear Man's look is fine and all, and Bizarro as was done would've been way too 80s cheesey and a more comic accurate look wouldve just been another Superman vs Superman look. But wow did it need polish. I do like that, unlike Superman 3, this is all Superman focused. Maybe if they'd had a better actor as Nuclear Man? And used the Bizarro theme? Or a less comical Bizarro be the opposite of Nuclear man (ugly, bumbling but kind vs handsome, poised but selfish). Even have Bizarro sympathize with Clark's loss since he on some level recalls and misses her too. Or just completely played it safe, read a pile of Superman comics from the 70's or 80's and just adapted that (even getting some skilled actual Superman comic writer to do a screenplay polish).

@kevinobrien9626 2 жыл бұрын

5:40 They cut that character because they wanted to make the movie shorter. They wanted as many showings on as many screens as possible, right out of the gate, before the word got out about how terrible the movie was. Hilariously, Cannon contemplated using that 40 minutes of dreck as the basis of a would-be SUPERMAN V.

@joetwist Ай бұрын

So many scenes that I haven’t seen. Where did you find them?

@theoneandonly6431 5 күн бұрын

I would watch Superman IV every day of the week before I ever watch Superman III.

@randallrutherford1384 2 жыл бұрын

I always liked superman 4 as a kid growing up. Still like 4 better than 3.

@TheAwmoody 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the book of this at my elementary school's book fair. The book had the neanderthal version of Nuclear Man. I remember when finally seeing the movie that part was missing. The bluray has a few missing scenes.

@Rahsaun77 2 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing this in the theater when I was 10, it had a little promise, but it was so lame and cheesy.

@chaospoet 2 жыл бұрын

I know this movie is not the best but I will always have a soft spot for it. It was the first Superman movie I was old enough to see in Theaters. I wasn't born yet when 1 and 2 came out and I was too young for 3, but Superman 4 I was old enough to see. I'd seen the other 3 from getting the VHS tapes but seeing Reeves as Superman and Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor on the big screen was unreal. I didn't even care the plot made no sense. They were godlike giants to me on a movie theater screen, unlike the 13 inch tv I had in my room to watch them on before. And while Nuclear Man sucked, in my kid mind, he was the ultimate badass. He beat Superman with ease and made him really sick when it took THREE evil Kryptonians (Zod, Non and Ursa) to even hurt him before. Nuclear Man seemed unstoppable and basically Doomsday before Doomsday! I didn't watch it again until my early 30s and OOF! This movie was infinitely better as a child.

@BooshmanLee 2 жыл бұрын

The Salkinds love for the character? What are you even talking about? Alexander had no idea who Superman was and Ilya's motivation was purely financial. The only reason the first movie worked at all was Dick Donner.

@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын

The only reason, Lethal Weapon, worked, was, Shane Black, when Joel Silver ruined his script, for, the second film, the results spoke, for, themselves, they, never, recovered from this treachery.

@tomhahnl1927 2 жыл бұрын

I was 16 when I watch this one in theaters and back then it was ok for me. Sometimes it is just funny how you realise years later this is actually a bad movie ;-)

@owusui 2 жыл бұрын

I actually liked Quest for peace 😁

@kamdan2011 2 жыл бұрын

12:47 Those are reviews of Supergirl.

@user-sq4jz9up6g 10 ай бұрын

It'd be interesting to see the complete version

@leoskyrider 2 жыл бұрын

Good video about Superman IV, can you put back the morph of Brandon's superman in the opening clip?

@leostenson4476 11 ай бұрын

I remember going to see Superman IV in theaters when I was about 7 years old and having been a huge fan of the first two and in some ways even part 3, I remember knowing even as a 7 or 8 year old that this movie was BAD

@eudesgeoffroy8416 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to find some Marvel/DC hero that Cannon would have been able to make a movie with. They can't do SFX, so no flying one such as Superman, and more generally no hero with super-powers. Their core business is the good badass guy demolishing villains, so no Batman or Punisher either. Maybe some Black Widow starring Caroline Munro.

@harryclarkhulk 2 жыл бұрын

No, no, no. The deleted scenes with Nuclear Man 1 were HORRIBLE. That’s the one good decision they made by cutting those scenes out. Superman IV would have been way, WAY worse than it acrylics turned out to be.

@ralphroshia9247 2 жыл бұрын

To bad they cant put the 30 minutes back in I've seen those deleted scenes they would have helped but it probably cost way to much for the special effects alone so that isn't going to happen but as bad Superman 4 is I still own it on DVD for 3 reasons Christopher Reeve Gene Hackman and the Music Score by Alexander Courage but thanks to Intrada Records I now own the Scores so that reason isn't as strong so even if I remove that reson that still leaves Reeve and Hackman

@jpaxonreyes 2 жыл бұрын

11:07 - But the tensile strength is huge. It doesn't mean it can't be cut.