Meh. im vegan and would eat it probably once or twice a year as a treat or something

+megacycles I personally don't see how something that came from an animal would be considered a "treat" I think of Ben & Jerry's pb and cookie dairy free ice cream as a treat!!

actually no Magg, because dairy is still bigger cruelty and plants are still healthier and more sustainable... Lab meat is just a slow down for vegan movement... not fan of it at all...

Magg Pi Because it would be a once in a while indulgence? Regardless of the source, there is no actual harm being done when comparing those 5 animals samples to the billions being killed each year.

megacycles that's why I said "I personally" any one can decide for themselves, but the idea of putting a carrcass in my body even if it was made in a lab makes me a little sick to my stomach. That's all.

wow, i didn't think of that, if this super meat works out vegans having pets won't be as controversial.

Thats what im going to do if its real.

I think they already have bacteria that are engineered to produce the amino acids required by cats..

That's an awesome point, I didn't even think about that.

dasgutenberg6 Omg that is absolutely disgusting, thank you for providing the link.

I agree. I'm vegan and will not eat this but I'm pumped for it. Don't see how any of us could be upset by it.

what about exploitation? you good with that?

Its better than 156 billion animals dying and being tortured.

Growing lab meat is not as sustainable as growing plants, NOT HEALTHY and DIARY is much worse cruelty than meat. And lastly... it will not help people going vegan - long term issue that we did not solve by promoting Super Meat.

So am I. But i won't eat it. And I think most vegans will not be buyers, but they would rather that alternative than the killing of animals.

+Santi Anzo did you watch the video?

Danielle Gardner You've hit the nail right on the head there.

exactly

+Danielle Gardner Could not agree with both of you more!!!

Can't stand the hypocritical vegans out there who have a cat and willingly force 1000's of animals into a horrific life and death for that one animal, then turn around and rail against supermeat with all of their might. Very disappointing. The potential of this technology is astounding.

Thank you, it's been bothering me how many vegans make this all about themselves, and ignore what this means for the animals.

+UnseenIvy253 The one thing I miss is seafood! 😭

I have no desire to eat it either. I don't like many mock meats, very rarely I'll try a good bean burger. But I don't believe all meat eaters are THAT bad. They are selfish and lack self control, but deep down they know what they're doing is wrong. If this meat tastes the same I believe a decent amount of people will eat it. From what I've heard this stuff tastes A LOT more like the real thing than vegan mock meats.

Lab grown meat will eventually be cheaper than regular meat, that's when the fun starts :)

The whole point of this is not for vegans but for the die-hard meat-eaters. Doesn't matter whether you want to eat it or not -- the purpose is to close down slaughterhouses. You should also support Impossible Foods 100% plant-based "bleeding" burger that just debuted in New York. That might taste too real too -- again, this is to close down the slaughterhouses.

Lab grown meat will be much, much cheaper to produce than regular meat, EurAsiaNikki.

Absolutely!

you don't think those incubators they propose that run at the perfect 37'c pathogen growth temperature won't need antibiotics?

Disco Nouvo One of their videos, titled "Why Bother To Create Cultured Meat?" suggests they plan not to use antibiotics - I suppose we'll have to wait and see

SimplyHuman They are making all kinds of promises that are not adding up.

Good idea......but the pet industry itself has to go too

Yes!

And here's a vegan extremist. Dogs and cats, especially dogs, are dependent on humans to survive.

***** Learn to spell extremist before accusing someone of something.

ZeroIbsioRain But the companies that manufacture the pet euthanasia 'kill' drugs don't want to hear that, it will cut into their profits

Thank you for what you are doing!

Hey Supertumor, you don't have a product anywhere near being market ready which is not how you have presented yourself so far. You have a carnist agenda whereby you are promoting the increased consumption of meat. There is your idea of incubators growing these meat products in these perfect incubator environments that could easily rapidly grow other pathogens - what could go wrong there? No doubt you will go away and rebrand yourselves another time when this incarnation of your company sputters to a halt but your trail is getting easier to follow now. You've approached a group of people that saw through the lies of the meat and dairy industry and can spot your false representations quite easily.

hahaha SUPERTUMOR!!!! you funny fucker

Dave Bleicher I can see how all the Supermeat razzle dazzle has got people confused. They are offering some kind of miracle solution to the world's problems with nothing to back it up with other than promises. What don't I have a clue about? That they don't actually have a product? They don't! That they have a carnist agenda? They do! It would be a conflict of interests for them to promote veganism. Their product is meat therefore they will be encouraging people to eat meat. Maybe the possibility of pathogens growing in the proposed home incubator? It is as much speculation as their whole proposal and far more plausible than the current fantasy they have. And as for rebranding- this is the fourth incarnation of them that I found. There are incarnations of them like "the modern agriculture foundation" and a biotech where they were trying to grow human body parts in the lab for transplants. They have done the rounds for funding for years. If they had something that was concrete to offer investors they would not be asking schmucks like you and me for money for their R&D which Supermeat are presenting as a product that is ready to roll out to the market place when ever they talk about it. If they were authentic in the way they presented themselves it would be an easier ask for people to believe them.

I never thought of it that way, yess to cats & dogs. Amazingg idea.

I hope the cultured meat thing holds it promises, personally feel very guilty buying cat food since its slaughter, but if this works out I can be at ease

There are great vegan dog and cat food that is fortified to contain all the essential nutrients, and even more than previous foods xx

***** it' the OVER CONSUMPTION of animal products (as well as processed carbs and sugar) , because they are high in calories fat and cholesterol, that makes people fat and end up with health problems. Small amounts of meat and fish is good for you, providing a lot of protein, iron, calcium, omega 3 &6, b12 and other vitamins and nutrients which are less available from plant sources alone. The healthiest people in the world still eat meat, they just dont over consume it. It's the 'Western' diet that is unhealthy, not animal products themselves.

Not really. As you already can see, many are against this for stupid reasons. If the day comes, they lose a lot of guilt based arguments for veganism. Can't argue with "animals die for it", if no animals die for it anymore. They are still against eating meat and probably want to ban it. Not all, true, but many as you can see in the comment section ...

Cannibals? You feed your cats other cats? Because that's what a cannibal is. One that eats their own species.

+Andrew Pliakis, I think some abandoned or street pet animals get killed and sold to pet food companies not to waste their flesh, so it's possible that the meat in your dog's food is actually dog meat. I'm not saying this is true, that is only what I've heard and I don't remember where, maybe you can research that and find out.

then why don't we clone and eat some human meat :)

+Ray V If they did, would you eat it? You must be lacking brain cells. They should grow you some.

+Issie human meat contains 100% of amino acids needed by humans :)

+Ray V You're not answering my question. Would YOU eat it? Human flesh is also 100% full of pathogens and microbes.

+Ray V But the main reason why human meat is dumb is because A) there's no demand for it and B) psychological barrier to cannibalism. There's NO good reason AT ALL to clone human flesh.

On a side note, I think cultured meat would be an excellent solution to the pet food problem.

"can never be health promoting." Except it can, but who cares about truth. If it is not 100% healthy, it's poison, which would mean that eating anything is bad ...

Hey there, It's the US and I actually conflated 99.9% of meat chickens and 97% of egg laying hens: www.huffingtonpost.com/nil-zacharias/its-time-to-end-factory-f_b_1018840.html It's all an estimate anyway.

I haven't seen the specifics yet but I imagine it's an oxygenated medium with various nutrients and the occasional synthetic hormones to flip those mesenchymal cells to muscle, adipose cells, etc. We are definitely not looking at a free energy machine so probably a bit more efficient than living chickens since you don't need to grow a whole bird. We will see.

+Mic. the Vegan I'm very interested in this as even organic vegetables use blood meal, bone meal and animal manures, not to mention the inefficiency in growing muscle tissue. But it should be more efficient than raising an animal I would think.

not all organics use those products, and where they do, some of those products like manure are waste products from feedlots that are environmentally problematic if not used.

true

Thanks! Yes it is :) Not the first videos I ever made, but it's my first dedicated KZfaq channel.

its not even slightly vegan.

Nice video again by the way, well done!!

This lab-meat will close down the slaughterhouses a whole lot faster than the plant-based "meats," only because they're just not "realistic" enough -- although the Impossible Foods 100% plant-based "bleeding heme" burger that just came out may be a real game-changer. At any rate, lab meat is going to proceed regardless.

"science can't find a loop hole in that." Science can't let people travel from London to New York in a few hours, it takes days because ships are not that fast ... wait ... It's not like it should be hard to simulate a cow, so the meat crows correctly ...

No choleserol

How did the debate go?

There are research groups looking into the lost limb replacement thing, but right now it is much more effective to improve cybernetics (which are AMAZING now!).

Look into 3D organ printing. They already are successfully doing that with gut parts or aorta. They're currently trying to successfully produce functional muscle tissue that way. However creating a nervous system to govern it is a bit more tricky. Though I've already seen people successfully creating external circuits that bypass the spine and connect, for example, a 3D-printed plastic hand directly to the brain, so the person actually can move their hand for the first time in years! If this keeps up the future can be quite bright :).

there was some videos of these doctors in russia and they had some techniques where people could actually grow organs back themselves like using their mind to tell the cells to grow a new tooth for example.