Supermoto build | MONSTER | Part 1

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Mike on Bikes

Mike on Bikes

4 жыл бұрын

I begin the motorcycle build project to turn my 2019 Husqvarna FS450 into a real supermoto monster. Including a Tekmo swingarm, Öhlins suspension, Tekmo exhaust system, 6 piston Beringer brakes, FAOR triple clamps, milled footpegs, high grip seat and ECU flash.

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@Jajeweet
@Jajeweet 4 жыл бұрын
When is part 2 coming out?
@beardedcobra4898
@beardedcobra4898 2 жыл бұрын
it isnt out by yet even? or is it??
@JRodSMX
@JRodSMX 2 жыл бұрын
@@beardedcobra4898 it is. Not called part two though.
@iainhutchinson345
@iainhutchinson345 2 жыл бұрын
When is part 3 coming out?
@LookattheBiggerPic
@LookattheBiggerPic 4 жыл бұрын
Remarkable Works Level build! Much thanks for sharing so much quality footage and specifics!
@tigercs1
@tigercs1 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. You SuMo guys are fun to watch down at my local track. It seems like superbikes flow on the track with calculated movements while SuMo is more like a drunken fist fight. Keep it up!
@domenfurlan666
@domenfurlan666 4 жыл бұрын
The swingarm looks trick! Can't wait for part 2 :D
@romanov9580
@romanov9580 2 жыл бұрын
no such thing as part 2 lmao
@nyleen
@nyleen 4 жыл бұрын
How much did the whole suspension and swingarm cost you? By the way thanks so much for your videos. You're the only genuinely enjoyable youtuber making supermoto racing specific content.
@GetLowRacingOfficial
@GetLowRacingOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vids, I think the single biggest improvement will be the suspension package, the rest are small improvements on a good base!
@MrToolean
@MrToolean 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, great video. I would be interested in a quick tour of your truck and spares.
@patrikkerttu623
@patrikkerttu623 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding brake: The 6 piston beringer with bro12 pump has a very soft feel and will be a big difference from the Brembo you are using now. I like the really soft feel in the beginning so I do not accidentally lock the wheel. But Ive had problems squeesing my own finger during hard braking when lever was not properly set. The beringer has some design flaws as well with really small pump oil volume and questionable seals. The origial FS Brembo has more bite from the beginning but for me a harsch feel. I have also experienced brake fade on the original brembo so I went looking for a new setup. Many of the european elite riders use the beringer 4 caliper setup with different pumps. For me the VMX brake stup works really good (its basically a beringer copy with a lot of improvements and a much more progressive feel, something in between Beringer and Brembo setup above). I do not know if they deliver to the US but if you are in Sweden Lauri ships fast and it is half the price compared to Beringer. VMX also has triple clamps with different rake. I do not know the angle but it makes the bike 3 cm shorter, you do the math :) . VMX: vmx-racing.com/vmx-cnc-brake-kit-without-disc_p0698.html
@reecebradley6383
@reecebradley6383 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the Supermoto videos, looking forward to some more riding tutorials if possible unless someone can recommend some decent supermoto training in the UK 👍🏻
@patrikkerttu623
@patrikkerttu623 4 жыл бұрын
Engine: My experience Twin exhaust 3-4hp, Dyno and mapping (flash ECU) 2hk, Vortex /GET ECU 1-2hp, Porting1-2hp, High compression piston 1-2 HP, Cams 1 hp, KN air filter 0,5hp (no filter at all does 1hp on the dyno). Most modified Husqvarnas/KTMs in the European championships makes 68-69hp, depending on dyno offcourse but the gain with bolt on mods without being a engine scientist is 8hp ish. So I would say your setup will make 5hp ish and it will breathe a lot better in the higher revs. The mapping will lean the lower register making it more crisp and responsive while the Tekmo exhaust lets it pull all the way to rev limiter and you will find yourself revving it more after the mods. If you like your engine do not open it :) . Do you have the Adler or Suter slipper clutch ?
@sumo_23
@sumo_23 4 жыл бұрын
european championship bikes have around 12-13 hp gain;)
@patrikkerttu623
@patrikkerttu623 4 жыл бұрын
@@sumo_23 true, I was referring to the different championships in europe. For example in german S1 class I think place 10-20 have max 10 extra hp while the top guys who also compete in the european championship have more. But I wonder for how long for example Chareyre runs his motor :)
@sumo_23
@sumo_23 4 жыл бұрын
its not about the top guys. Some in the middelfield got more hp as the top guys. I know them very closely.
@gh3r3g
@gh3r3g 4 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work nice supermoto you got there !
@qdi25
@qdi25 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for final results
@basgerritsenbg2945
@basgerritsenbg2945 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! When is the second part coming?
@izhlayukio5863
@izhlayukio5863 4 жыл бұрын
what a cool bike!
@etiennecfourie777
@etiennecfourie777 4 жыл бұрын
Look forward to part 2
@rollss123
@rollss123 4 жыл бұрын
cant wait, to see part 2! :D
@dedelabinouze5110
@dedelabinouze5110 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a crazy build ! Never heard of an adjustable triple tree ! Aren't you worried about the bike wheeling too much between the added power and the shorter swingarm ?
@SpidiFreestyle
@SpidiFreestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, time to release part II. Can’t wait to see it...
@claudioquintal6272
@claudioquintal6272 4 жыл бұрын
great video
@UtoyOnWheels
@UtoyOnWheels 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for part 2
@nickchilds3104
@nickchilds3104 4 жыл бұрын
WE NEED PART 2 MIKE!
@SurajYadav-jy6et
@SurajYadav-jy6et 4 жыл бұрын
Video on engine braking and rev matching please🙂
@GroovyVideo2
@GroovyVideo2 4 жыл бұрын
more practice is better than buying parts - more Fun too
@CohensideProductions
@CohensideProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, did you modify the travel on the Ohlins fork? That’s a motocross fork right? Thanks, I’m interested in making the swap to Ohlins.
@Wyrmidion
@Wyrmidion 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mike, why no love for the AER forks?
@felixkroeber4024
@felixkroeber4024 4 жыл бұрын
That concept idea and the swingarm look amazing plz can you tell me where to buy these parts I couldn't find them myself
@shermzaaah
@shermzaaah 3 жыл бұрын
TEKMO RACING Swingarm. Can find them on Instagram at @tekmoracing or @kmtr_supermoto
@Dostiempos.Canarias
@Dostiempos.Canarias Жыл бұрын
Part 2 where?
@wieliewonka
@wieliewonka 4 жыл бұрын
Needs a quick schifter to, healtech for example
@nguyenblake8905
@nguyenblake8905 3 жыл бұрын
when is part 2 coming my man?
@superduperkillen5077
@superduperkillen5077 4 жыл бұрын
very nice video :D
@mafiosolom917
@mafiosolom917 3 жыл бұрын
Has part 2 came out yet?
@CodyBunker
@CodyBunker 3 жыл бұрын
How much hp did the flash add?
@NEzFiA
@NEzFiA 4 жыл бұрын
Now you're broke? Awesome build!
@dztrbdgod
@dztrbdgod 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the second part?
@SEBO8
@SEBO8 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice build!🔥 And whats the song called at 3:20? Thx
@cfvgd
@cfvgd 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Did that cost as much as the bike? :p
@buncho888
@buncho888 4 жыл бұрын
Does the extra power from the new free flowing exhaust mean that the stock ECU is already compensating by adding more fuel?
@pkerttu
@pkerttu 4 жыл бұрын
Stock ecu is fairly rich and by re mapping its normally leaned making up to 2 hp along the whole register. Twin exhaust just makes less restriction so it puts out more the whole way, but where it really feels is in the top end. Going for twin exhaust usually requires richening again. I.e. dyno and map after new exhaust.
@nigastylah
@nigastylah 4 жыл бұрын
What made you go with TEKMO instead of by instance SUTER racing, Tecstra / MTR or like older models the Devtech ones... Are they also wider for a bigger / fatter rear tire?
@nigastylah
@nigastylah 4 жыл бұрын
And does your bike have a cush-drive?
@extec101
@extec101 2 жыл бұрын
när kommer del två?
@riclyd1978
@riclyd1978 4 жыл бұрын
What's the thing about the double piped header? I haven't seen that for years and I always wonder why they are double?
@GetLowRacingOfficial
@GetLowRacingOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
They make those for more high end power, like the DVR exhaust
@megapet777
@megapet777 3 жыл бұрын
wow its as powerful as my zxr 400
@danielliaw6860
@danielliaw6860 2 жыл бұрын
wheres part 2?
@saifulredzuan5236
@saifulredzuan5236 4 жыл бұрын
Wheres part 2?
@batukilang5765
@batukilang5765 3 жыл бұрын
Which is the monster, Sir?
@michaelmckay
@michaelmckay 4 жыл бұрын
I have that same socal supermoto shirt haha
@GutoFontana
@GutoFontana 4 жыл бұрын
awesommme
@federico297
@federico297 4 жыл бұрын
A tip from a guy working for a supermoto team in Italy: you are making too many mods at once. Completely changing the suspensions, making the bike shorter, adding more brake force: the bike will become more extreme and a lot more difficult to ride. You needed to do one thing, ride the bike some time to be able to get comfortable with the mod and setting up the whole bike to work with that mod, and then upgrading an other thing. The clamp mode is useless unless you are a very fast rider, the front end will be a lot twitchier under heavy breaking, and the 16.5 tyre is the worst at the moment
@GetLowRacingOfficial
@GetLowRacingOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Penso qua dietro ce' qualche collaborazione promozionale, senno non mi spiego certe decisioni, hai ragionamenti giusti :D
@federico297
@federico297 4 жыл бұрын
Non ho dubbi, non che ci sia nulla di male (ci mancherebbe), diciamo che sarebbe meglio un approccio diverso, tutto qua
@GetLowRacingOfficial
@GetLowRacingOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@federico297 certo, fa piacere che uno dei "big" fa cosi tanto materiale sul motard 👍👍
@raphaellacasse-linteau
@raphaellacasse-linteau 4 жыл бұрын
What you want to say about the 16.5 wheel? Is it better a 16 inch?
@raphaellacasse-linteau
@raphaellacasse-linteau 4 жыл бұрын
@@federico297 16,16.5 or 17
@Mr.Putovski
@Mr.Putovski 4 жыл бұрын
Hello mike, im converting my ktm exc to supermoto and i want to use a stock radial caliper from the fs450, is it 100mm or 108mm mount? With the stock forks amd caliper Thanks in advance Love ur videos
@johndondero4262
@johndondero4262 4 жыл бұрын
100mm Brembo M50 caliper
@xkrest00
@xkrest00 4 жыл бұрын
OT: Sedlacek? Origin from Czech Republic? ;-)
@tobiasjacobs4782
@tobiasjacobs4782 4 жыл бұрын
Based on what I heard the 6 piston caliper is to big for supermoto It works well on asphalt but it is to aggressive on dirt to modulate
@GetLowRacingOfficial
@GetLowRacingOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
The Beringer brakes have a very progressive feel if you opt for the whole system with pump. In comparison, best 4P Brembos are stronger and harsher....
@patrikkerttu623
@patrikkerttu623 4 жыл бұрын
@@GetLowRacingOfficial correct. The 6 piston beringer with bro12 pump has a very soft feel and actually tricky to setup. Ive had problems squeesing my own finger during hard braking when lever was not properly set. The brembo has more bite from the beginning but for me a harsch feel. I have also experienced brake fade on the original brembo so I went looking for a new setup. Many of the elite riders use the beriger 4 caliper setup with different pumps and for me the VMX brake stup works really good (its basically a beringer copy with a lot of improvements and a much more progressive feel).
@raphaellacasse-linteau
@raphaellacasse-linteau 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same bike as you. I really wonder if the Beringer is way better than the stock setting with new pads
@pkerttu
@pkerttu 4 жыл бұрын
No, its a matter of feel. Try some different brake pads first, for example z04 pads increase stopping power a lot. www.carpimoto.it/en-SE/32154_M497Z04-Brake-Pads-Brembo-M497Z04-Racing-Z04-Compound-2-pads-for-1-disk-.htm
@raphaellacasse-linteau
@raphaellacasse-linteau 4 жыл бұрын
@@pkerttu thank you! I'm going to Buy Them. I didn't saw your reply and i was looking for those 2 Weeks ago. Do you think 6 piston Beringer is over kill? All the best team run the radial 4 piston Beringer.
@pkerttu
@pkerttu 4 жыл бұрын
@@raphaellacasse-linteau good question. 6 piston is good with the axial fitting, especially with the right pump, bro12 or bro14. I think they run 4 piston due to radial fitting, the offset of 100 or 108mm max. I think the 6 piston radial offset is approx 130mm. The ones who run more pistons run two 4 piston calipers, look at cobra
@alpha-cf2oi
@alpha-cf2oi 2 жыл бұрын
love it when non pro riders feel the need to install sth like "custom pecs" and rly think that makes them faster LOL
@petebusch9069
@petebusch9069 Жыл бұрын
Would really like to see some lower lap times associated with said mod verses just saying I spent a ton of money on my bike and now its "better". Money can't buy talent with the exception of track time.
@OwenWare413
@OwenWare413 9 ай бұрын
No way one of those tracks is my home track Shasta supermoto club
@Jajeweet
@Jajeweet 4 жыл бұрын
Those dual headers are so sexy
@charleshuang9271
@charleshuang9271 3 жыл бұрын
duuuuuuuuuuuuuude where is part two????
@davidrespect6471
@davidrespect6471 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could have bought a TM racing or VERTEMATI to begin with...
@husaberg1234
@husaberg1234 4 жыл бұрын
learn how Husqvarna pronunciation sound like In Swedish in 0:49
@motofotose9155
@motofotose9155 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear some correct pronunciations, would be nice if you called the bike what it really is though, en ktm med vit plast..
@djnation7934
@djnation7934 4 жыл бұрын
motofoto se vad fan är ktm da sämst
@jetcarq6048
@jetcarq6048 4 жыл бұрын
decreasing clearance will decrease lean angle, so this is bad, decreasing wheelbase will decrease stability, so all those changes are stupid. dont think that bike makers are less clever, all those things are tested many times, but keep trying maybe you can find some good solution also
@federico297
@federico297 4 жыл бұрын
You're not totally true, ALL supermotos are way shorter than a Motocross bike, and need to be shorter to be more agile for the supermoto tracks. About the suspensions: the fs is way too low, so it needs to be higher on the suspension, especially the rear shock
@patrikkerttu623
@patrikkerttu623 4 жыл бұрын
@@federico297 most in europe are running them as they are. The only thing I did was to decrease static sag to 1,5 cm so it rides high in the rear. Suspension on the FS in stock form is really good.
@federico297
@federico297 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrikkerttu623 as you and I said, the rear is too low for supermoto use. The forks should need some mods to the set-up, I'd prefere to ditch the air forks but it's possible to make them work nicely. For example Tm suspensions are much better in stock form than the fs. The fs is a really competitive bike, it needs a radical change in the suspension. If you race the stock one aren't really great
@patrikkerttu623
@patrikkerttu623 4 жыл бұрын
@@federico297 On my FS I have the older cartridge forks and they are ca 1,5 cm shorter than the MX version. And on top of that I slide the forks up the clamps 1-2 cm. But now I will try different clamps with steeper rake so it will be interesting to see what happens. I have not measured the length of AER supermoto forks, but I would very surprised if they are the same length as the MX AER forks. I have ridden the never FS with AER forks and it feels great, much like my FS with revalved cartridge forks. The original cartridge fork valving were a disaster however, I have never understood why KTM cannot make a good setup from the beginning..
@federico297
@federico297 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrikkerttu623 i don't think the Mx forks are the same length as the fs, they are surely longer. What I want to say is the stock suspensions are great, it's just the stock setup that's not really good. They just need some revalving and some height adjustments and they can work really well. A thing I've not written about: all my saying about the suspension is referred to the use of the bike WITH the off-road section, if you're using the bike only onroad it's true that the bike needs to be low on the front end
@HB-gj7gd
@HB-gj7gd 4 жыл бұрын
aha I knew has was Swedish - but the name Mike threw me of - but no American knows how to say Husqvarna and Øhlins - so a Swede
@MikeonBikes
@MikeonBikes 4 жыл бұрын
japp
@cliveramsbotty6077
@cliveramsbotty6077 4 жыл бұрын
why don't americans say 'titanum' instead of titanium
@burneraccounthandle
@burneraccounthandle 4 жыл бұрын
because its pronounced titanium?
@cliveramsbotty6077
@cliveramsbotty6077 4 жыл бұрын
​@@burneraccounthandle so why do they call aluminium 'aluminum'
@offset7796
@offset7796 4 жыл бұрын
that exhaust has to be the worst looking exhaust on the market IMO
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