Surface 604 V Rook Review

Surface 604 V Rook Review - $2.6k

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Күн бұрын

The Surface 604 V Rook is an approachable deep step-through electric bike that comes in two frame sizes and three colors! Includes aluminum alloy fenders, sturdy rear rack, integrated lights, and two battery size options for extended range. Relaxed handlebar, adjustable angle stem, high volume tires, ergonomic touch points, and adjustable suspension fork offer comfort. Unique combination of torque sensing pedal assist with trigger throttle that overrides for added power. Settings menu provides adjustable top speed, adjustable assist levels, and adjustable screen brightness. Two integrated USB charging ports (one on the display and one on the battery pack) let you maintain portable electronics on the go. Excellent stopping power thanks to Tektro Auriga hydraulic disc brakes with large 180mm rotors and motor inhibitors and brake blinking activation. Mid-level derailleur and nine-speed cassette provides plenty of options for urban riding. Excellent safety features including bright headlight with side windows that is mounted up high on the stem, and reflective tires. The battery charge port is low and near the left crank arm. No slap guard on the right chain stay, pedal assist can activate unexpectedly if the chain bounces excessively. The optional high capacity battery pack sticks out on the left side vs. being symmetrical. Fairly heavy build at 67.4lbs due in part to the front rack, which is removable.
0:00 Introduction, benefits of step-thru frame, comparisons
1:00 Two frame sizes, pricing, three colors: black, white, pink
1:44 Adjustable spring suspension fork, hydraulic disc brakes
2:36 Rear light blinks when braking, tires have reflectivity
2:57 Great headlight positioning, side windows improve safety
3:21 More tire details 27.5" x 2.4" with 3mm puncture protection
4:15 Wide aluminum fenders, matching black hardware, sealed
4:57 Crank arms, Wellgo platform pedals, drivetrain details
5:55 Wire exposure and routing, torque sensing pedal assist
6:58 Bafang planetary geared hub motor 500 watt nominal rating
7:12 Battery details and options, unlock removal, fast charger
8:59 Battery care tips to extend life, two USB charging ports
9:40 Selle Royal saddle, 30.4mm seat post, rear rack mounting
10:17 Bike weight 67.5lbs due in part to removable front rack
11:03 I reviewed the small/medium frame, stem and bar are sized
11:37 Ergonomic grips, flick bell, Shimano Alivio shifters
12:08 Adjustable kickstand, nice seat post quick release clamp
12:35 Powering on the bike, display panel and trigger throttle
14:05 Activating the lights, settings menu: brightness, password
15:42 Mounting the bike, ride test begins, noise test, no hands
17:45 Frame mounted camera for precise pedal assist activation
18:26 Chainring size, body cam riding shots with third person
20:03 Riding off-road on light gravel dirt path then sidewalk
20:30 Third person ride shots with standing and hill climb
21:17 Conclusion with website details: compare tool, forums
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@amangeorge4663 Жыл бұрын

We are really happy owners of this bike! As I commented on a different EBR video, these bikes are slightly more expensive than many of the other common DTC brands, but I think you really get value for the added price. Extremely minimal proprietary components that should be easy to replace or repair for a long time, and no weird cutting of corners on things like brake quality (I say this specifically with our RadCity 5 in mind). Plus my interactions with their customer service have all been really fast and helpful. I always recommend this company for people looking for this type of bike!

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Great testimonial, Aman! Thanks for sharing what you've liked about the Surface 604 ebikes. I agree, it's a good combination of quality parts and design for a reasonable price. I hope yours continue to work great for many years :)

@dittttttttttttttttttto 3 ай бұрын

Hi there. How is the bike so far? I'm thinking of buying a used Rook with 5000km.

@amangeorge4663 3 ай бұрын

@@dittttttttttttttttttto It's great, we love the bike! We are actually selling ours too because we upgraded to a Tern but we have nothing but love for the V-Rook we own. And the Bafang motor & Reention battery should mean it is fully serviceable for a long time.

@williamhach1550 Жыл бұрын

Great review! I've been researching ebikes for more than 6 months and I'm very much leaning toward this exact model.

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Fantastic! I'm glad this was useful for you William. Thanks for the encouragement :)

@JeremyMcCrearyTechnicalLEGO Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great review! Bought this bike with the 20 Ah battery and suspension seat post several months ago as my first ebike. Bottom line: No regrets! Tested 5 cadence-sensing ebikes beforehand. Bought this one on the spot after a 20-minute test. The very smooth, natural power delivery made all the difference. Value for price also figured in. Question: Does the torque sensor in the rear drop-out also sense cadence? Some sensors of this type do -- in which case the bike would actually be controlling motor power according to rider POWER input. Some ebikes do just that, and I'm wondering, based on comments from knowledgeable EBR forum members, if the V Rook is one of them? Finally, really appreciate the 9 assist level option. I like to contribute as much propulsion as I can, and this granularity helps me dial in just the right amount of help.

@philmastman2490 5 күн бұрын

I've had my V Rook for about a year now, in part thanks to your excellent review and I agree with all of the positive things you've said about it. But there are a few things that I wish were different. 1. The gearing is too low. At 20MPH, in 9th gear the pedaling cadence is far too rapid for me. 2. Sometimes it feels like it takes too much pedaling torque to activate the torque sensor and get the motor going. I wish the torque sensor was more sensitive, or at least adjustable. I often compensate for this by using the throttle. 3. I wish it were lighter. 4. I wish there were a wider dealer network in the USA... I had to travel four hours to buy mine. 5. The fenders are incredibly difficult to get placed properly... After loading it in the car, their positions are affected, and getting them back into place to prevent rubbing on the tires is a fiddly process that takes forever. I had to give up on my front fender, and remove it entirely because it was so much of a pain.

@dede13295 Жыл бұрын

After watching your video's for some time I would like to thank you very much for all the help you gave me. Bonne année mon ami :)

@trevor1933 Жыл бұрын

Hi Court great reviews as always . I love your honesty and warmth you give in your reviews regardless of the price 🙂 🙏

@dylanalexander7510 6 күн бұрын

Can we have a more detailed video of the battery removal and charging please. I'm a little confused about how to.

@RagingDork Жыл бұрын

A friend asked me to look for a bike around 3k that’s a step through and a relaxed riding position. This one seems the best all around bang for the buck. 2800 with torque sensor and larger battery.

@ggebhard1 Жыл бұрын

Really sharp bike!

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it looks pretty nice... and they put the extra effort into frame strength. The deep wave frames can flex sometimes, but this one did alright :)

@lenhister Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this review. Other than how it looks, how does this bike compare to the Surface 604 Colt? Thank you.

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Happy to help. The Rook, Colt, and V Rook are all very similar (drive system, drive train, and other components). The main difference is the frame design. This one is less rigid than the other two, but has a lower stand over height. To me, it performed very similar, and I'd be happy with any of the three. It might come down to style or color for me personally. I'd probably go with the high step because I do like to ride off road and have a tall inseam and feel pretty comfortable and balanced on bicycles :)

@twloughlin Жыл бұрын

Still riding my 2017 Surface 604 Rook! Came with hydraulic brakes and torque sensor even back then. Fenders, rack, and integrated lights too! The best thing about this company is that I feel, for the money, you get the complete package - no nickel and dime-ing the add-ons. One question - do you get full throttle throughout all assist levels? My one complaint about my model is that the throttle only gives you power equivalent to your assist level, so to get full throttle you have to be at level 5. Thanks.

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! It sounds like you're very happy with your Rook. Yes, the review unit I rode did appear to have throttle override, so you could get maximum power and speed regardless of the assist level.

@JeremyMcCrearyTechnicalLEGO Жыл бұрын

The throttle on my 2023 V Rook delivers full power on all assist levels above 0. At 0, the motor's off, even for the throttle. (I have mixed feelings about this, but it's probably for the best.)

@lizc7090 Жыл бұрын

I’m trying to decide between the Rook, the Eunorau Meta 275, the Denago Commute Model 1, Eunorau ETorque, or Electric Bike Co Model S. I’m looking to do light trail riding along with paved roads. Which one would you pick?

@tomquimby8669 Жыл бұрын

looks good in pink

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree! It was a fun decision, and it sounds like many people do choose pink :D

@rd4660 Жыл бұрын

At the beginning of your reviews can you please tell us what class each electric bike is? Because of access to trails issues, many of us are only interested in Class 1 bikes.

@DavidDavida Жыл бұрын

im lookin for a tool kit for the rook ..

@Dylan-n1l 18 күн бұрын

Awesome

@gctw2341 Жыл бұрын

It seems there is more general moving to the torque-sensors in general?

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

I still think it's fairly rare, the cadence sensor with smooth controller acceleration seems to be popular. Just having a torque sensor (like the S604 V Rook) is nice in some ways, but requires the extra pedal pressure and can activate unexpectedly (though rare). Maybe there are other companies doing it that I'm less aware of because I've been a little slower on reviews lately. Getting ready to launch a bit website update soon :)

@bw162 Жыл бұрын

How do they build a fat tire e-bike that weighs 50 pounds if this is near 70?

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

This is one of the lightest ones I’ve tested electricbikereview.com/bulls/monster-e-fs/

@clayhull4239 Жыл бұрын

Hey Court, I always enjoy your videos and your expertise when it comes to e bikes. What do you think about Nireeka e bikes? They have several different design options that almost seem more futuristic build. Just seeing if you are familiar and what you think? As always thanks for your feedback!

@frankfurter7260 Жыл бұрын

Bike matches the glasses.

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

The white glasses are fun, and help me stand out a bit since the rest of my gear is black ;)

@russhall4064 Жыл бұрын

We have four E- Bikes. ❤️

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Wow! That's awesome. Do you use them for different purposes like city vs. mountain? Or, do you have a large family or like to share with friends :D

@Spiceymike1961 Жыл бұрын

What if I just wanna go full throttle

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

I believe the standard top speed setting is 32km/h (20mph) with pedal assist and throttle. If you go into the settings and raise the maximum speed, I believe it can go to about 26mph realistically :)

@Spiceymike1961 Жыл бұрын

Then why would I pay that for an Ebike that doesn't go as fast as my speedrid

@sawyerpac9878 Жыл бұрын

Does that bike have cruise control ?you got to have that my buddy.so you don't have to hold on the throttle

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

No, I don't think it does. That's actually kind of rare to see! One brand that does seem to include it is Qualisports, and I covered their Dolphin Plus recently here electricbikereview.com/qualisports/2023-dolphin-plus/

@sawyerpac9878 Жыл бұрын

Why is this Bike is $2600 instead of $1.6000?how far can you go? On one charge.

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

I think it's extra because of the quality parts like the Samox bottom bracket, two frame sizes, three colors, good warranty, is sold through dealers, has nice lights, tires, suspension fork, and hydraulic disc brakes, and it has the battery and charger upgrade options. These things all add up.

@scoot82601 Жыл бұрын

Having had an e-bike store, you definitely get what you pay for. Battery replacements on any of the brands to match the 604's are around $800-1000, alone. Addding $500-800 more for an ebike won't give much quality. We had one line in the $16 range that would compare to these bikes. Positives are 30day trial, super battery and quality brakes, shifters, controller, electronics, posts, suspension, etc. Best bike for the money is Pedego, but starting around $2500-4000 depending on style and battery.

@sawyerpac9878 Жыл бұрын

Hi is this your Throttle Bike you know you always like throttles instead of the pillar fist

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this one does have a throttle, as well as torque sensing pedal assist :)

@sawyerpac9878 Жыл бұрын

Yea do you still see or talk to your buddy Chris?

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

Sometimes yeah! I actually called him recently to catch up. It sounds like he may no longer have the shop in Long Beach, and he might be starting a family. I hope we get to hang out again in 2023 and maybe film some bikes or just have a catch-up video :D

@sawyerpac9878 Жыл бұрын

You don't love me .because you don't know me .

@ElectricBikeReview Жыл бұрын

It's a general statement that aligns with my religious beliefs. To give love and support is free, and it's a small vote for the world I'd like to live in.