I love how all these home gym owners shout each other out! I’ve been watching Coop and Brandon for years and was introduced to the garage gym lab through them and it’s so awesome to see this community growing outside of the globo gyms.

I got both the high and low system early on and I never looked back. It’s been awesome. I got it because I have a very small home gym area and it was the only option I could get that made for a usable space. Highly recommend and the guys at the company are amazing as well.

Great review as always Brandon! And Jason at Surplus truly is putting out a top notch product!

Proud owner of the first unit in Portugal! Having used several types of pulley systems, ranging from dedicated setups to DIY stuff, I wasn’t really expecting the UPS to be worth the investment. But, after upgrading my old budget rack that featured a built in top/bottom pulley system, and having my wife pressuring me to get a setup for her to keep doing pulley work, I ordered it from Surplus Strengh. I was confronted with a long waiting list and even tried to drop out to go get something else, but Jason contacted me directly, he was a true gentleman about it and let me have it sooner, so I agreed. I was wrong, it is totally worth it. If you like quality and awesome feel, this is as good as it gets unless you have the space and budget to go into a premium selectorized unit. Get one, really!

Another great video… I definitely think that unit shines in the gym that is squeezed for space. Also, the engineering foresight to add extra room to the bolt spacing is refreshing. I saw your aggro in the background, and I can’t wait for your thoughts💪🏼💪🏼

Solid review as always. Nice piece of equipment and cool of you to admit you may have spoke to soon, originally. Also classy of you to give it away to someone in need!

Been looking at one of these for a while so this is good timing.

Great review! I’m predicting the contest will get a lot of entries.

Just got top piece delivered today. It's amazing and definately feels like a premium product.

One might say these pieces deliver (I will see myself out). They have about maxed out what you can do with a loading pin pulley system. I really enjoyed the analysis on these pieces man.

I have both high and low, they work great, awesome quality. What I like about this more than REP/Titan attachment towers is it leaves the back of the rack open so you can walk through the rack. I know for people that have the rack butted against a wall that doesn’t matter. But for me in my configuration I walk through often and prefer this feature.

Cool system. Thanks for the honest update.

Rep’s plate loaded lat low row has been a game changer. If I had a Rogue rack this would definitely be the option I go with though

Mine shows up tomorrow - 9 weeks and two days from order. So pumped and I know it’ll be worth the wait.

Just got the upper system with the upgraded aluminum pulley and is a very solid product to say the least, high quality. For those with ceiling constrains an excellent choice IMO. I had only one inch to stare so it worked great(84" ceiling). Functionally wise does what it suppose to do, 1:1 ratio is great no swing at all. Was a bit skeptical due to high price but is worth it, especially if you have space constraints for a stand alone system and of course have the money to spend. I mounted my on my RM4 Monster rack and it fits perfectly.

18 months is pretty quick for you 😂

Bought my high end low pulley about two years ago thanks to your video and absolutely love it!!

Great review. It’s not for everyone but, it’s an incredible piece. Completely worth the cost IMO.

For someone with a Rogue rack and limited space this is the best solution out there in terms of quality, looks, and function IMO. Jason is also a great guy that goes above and beyond to make sure you’re happy with the product, Surplus Strength is all around top-notch.

You were correct when you said it should be about 250$... that is way overpriced..

This looks like a very nice cable pulley unit. Definitely a premium product which some might not be able to afford.

Thanks for the review! I like how thorough it was. I wish they had better cable storage.

I don’t understand people that say it’s overpriced. It’s cheaper than the plate loaded slinger and takes up zero floor space, which I had to have for my gym. I’ve had it a while now and use it multiple times weekly. NO RAGRETS! Not even 1 letter.

It’s the best for a rogue rack in my opinion. It has a Small footprint and it is modular, so anywhere where you have a crossmember you can set it up.

Combined with the Rhino drop-in...it's pretty sweet. Took forever to get it but I really like how well it works

Man I really want to like this, especially being American made. But it’s so dang hard to pay that $800 when the Titan plate loaded tower is $499, even $399 recently when on sale. Not to mention I could probably spend about $100 on eBay to attain aluminum pulleys, plus not have any issues with plates swaying because of the guide rods. And it’s standalone so I can leave some attachments on it and it never be in the way of my rack. I really want to like this!!..but…

This is the pulley equivalent of a Mutant Metals Ultimate Dip attachment. It is extremely solid and well made. Are there cheaper solutions available? Sure. But people who enjoy having nice things and are willing to put money into quality gear will find a lot of value here. This is especially useful for people squeezing racks into basements with low ceilings, as it only adds another inch or so to the overall height of a rack. I've had mine for a year, and the only drawback is that it isn't a Prime Single Stack.

The UPS was made for the Rhino. It's turned my RM6 into an all in one station.

thanks for the video

I’ve been thinking about getting the upper and lower units. I’ve been using bands for all the cable movements and while it works for me not every one that uses my rack wants to do band assisted pull-ups instead of lat pull downs, etc.

Nice review Brandon, IMO this seems like this is the best current option for Rogue racks but the REP lat/low row is superior in many ways for rack mounted pulleys. Your Prime is just incredible, but the quality of a Bugotti and a different category.

I bought mine at much lower prices before inflation hit. I love them. The UPS stays in the same spot and the lower pully is not mounted unless I am using it. I had to take the pulley wheel off one end of the UPS to get it on my rack, so that is an option for space that is less than the pulley diameter, but more than the main unit height. One improvement could be finding a way to allow it to work with both 5/8" and 1" racks. Mine is 5/8" and I do plan to upgrade to a 1" rack at some point in the future (when we build a new house).

Great video as always! The pricing of pulleys is interesting. For example, if you look at the Ancore at first glance, you might think it is way overpriced, but compared to this it looks more reasonable. Yes they are quite different....

It doesn't have the most potential of the pulley systems out there or that will be released soon, but I would still consider getting one so that my kids can sit on it while I pull

I had one of the first run units both high and low UPS. I think it’s the best option for Rogue Racks (which I had at the time). Although if you have a REP rack, their new selectorized lat low row is probably a better value.

My plate loaded titan cable machine was 399 and honestly does everything this does and more. I was being cheap and made a few diy setup exactly like this. I use my titan cable machine so much more. Its just so annoy loading the pins on a design like this

Awesome video Brandon, probably my most favorite one up to date. I was looking for a great pulley system for a while without paying 4000$. I ordered this system now, you have helped me to take my decision. Now waiting patiently to try this on. But I have a question for you…I have a Rogue RML390F falt foot, I am not sure where to install it…because I have a multigrip pullup bar, I dont have much space on the side, although that where I really want it. If I install it in the back, I need to install a crossmember in the bottom to use the low pulley, problem is: I am guessing I wont be able to push my Rogue monster flat bench all the way back…either way I need to buy a crossmember for the side or the back. So Im kinda waiting to get the system in my hand and test the best solution. Any thoughts?

Looks well made, but I just can’t get over the price. If you have the standard spud inc, you’ll have two pulleys. If you have one attached to a racks pull up bar/front cross bar, and the other one attached to a safety pin sited towards the top of the rack going across the rack OR attached to the rear cross bar, you got exactly the same for a fraction of the cost. I agree that the spud inc is unstable in standard set up mode, but the above hack is a game changer…

Spud Inc. have added a coating to their cables now. People complained that the raw cable ended up with steel splinters (ow!). Great bit of kit, which fills a gap in my gym. But I do wish I had the room for a separate selectorised unit. One day...

I think you should start your reviews with a little montage of the thing in action! The review itself is fantastic as always but as someone that has never heard of this thing it's about half way through the video before you actually see how it works

I've been thinking about buying this. I currently have a Rogue Rhino with RM-3 and Spud Inc system. My lat pull down bar comes in contact with the rack and I would like this extra overhang.

I like the comparison to cars. This is the hogh quality option. I'm tempted to pick the UPS because I like that I can possibly remove it since I will be using it on the side of my rack. Lesson learned on logos: don't touch!

Man I’ve been waiting for you @basementbrandon to do a video on this brotha. When ordering the pulley system it asks for the crossmember height. Does that mean if I have a 90 inch rack that I put in 90 inches ? Or am I getting the measurement part wrong lol

I think the home gym space is large enough now to accommodate boutique manufacturers that are satisfied remaining a smaller size for the foreseeable future. Or they simply have problems scaling up. Getting a unit into every home gym may not be the goal of most home gym manufacturers and it may not even be plausible if it were. I think the only manufacturer capable of that actually is Marcy or Bowflex. Even Rogue wouldn’t be able to stock every Dick’s sporting goods in the nation. This is great though for the customer because a smaller manufacturer is more likely to be accommodating to the customer. I’ve gotten custom colors and sizes from Mutant Metals and Prime but Nautilus wouldn’t even let me choose a specific color they listed on their website because a gym chain had exclusive rights to it, ridiculous. A $800 detachable pulley system isn’t for everyone but I’m glad it’s an option because I’ve gotten stuff that few people want or need.

Can't wait for the contest... They wont fit my rack, but I am into the logo's if you know what I mean....

Man, i really want this but not so bad I'm willing to get on Instagram

I kicked around buying one of these when they first came out, I think the upper was priced at $225 and the lower was $200, and they came in blue for that price. Not getting it was the biggest mistake of my home gym building life.

For that price, I think you can buy a whole lat pulldown system for your rack which does WAY more than that cable pulley thing. FYI - I own a cable pulley system for my rack and I spent $20. It almost works as a functional training and most importantly It gets the job done LOL

You may have touched on this, so apologies if you did, but in terms of smoothness, how does this compare with Rogue's Slinger? I have a Slinger combined with a Rhino in the back of an RM-6. I would say it works well, but it's not "weight stack smooth". Some of that is likely due to the design of the Rhino, and perhaps it's just me, but the pulleys on both my Rhino & Slinger have some "wobble". I have no idea if that factors into the feel, but I've considered trying to rectify that. Having said that, if it ain't broke... The UPS would offer flexibility in orienting my rack, but post assembly I can't really imagine trying to move the d@mn thing. The Slinger limits my options due to rack/ceiling height and protruding up between floor joists.

I can see the high quality in this system but the Rep Fitness system is better with actual guide rods and weight horns. The Rep one does add to the footprint of the rack and probably doesn’t work on a Rogue rack though.

The real problem with this system is the damn loading pin. Let's say you start at 240lbs for lat pulldown and want to do drop sets you have to take cable off, remove some weights, put it back on and by then your muscles are rested and you aren't really accomplishing your goal. This guy was clever but not enough to also sell a horizontal loading pin. I'd love to have that put on 4 45s and a ton of 10s and quickly pull off 1 or 2 off each side and keep going. The more I think about it I will have no choice but to get Athena with weight stack and use Gym Pin and bands to get weight up there. Having the perfect height of the cable for various exercises and not having to set it up, take it down, load and unload weights would make it worth it. I got the Rogue USA Olympic plates which are super thin so can add a lot of weight on Gym Pin so have that going for me.

Hello. I’m using the UPS since April and all in all I’m happy with it. Regarding the price I have to say that I live in Germany and shipping plus tax and customs doubles the price you mentioned. Around 1000$.But for me in my very small gym it is the best solution. Yes,it swings sometimes,but not in a way you can’t stop if you let the weights totally down for a second . The only real downside is that the holes in the low attachment do not align with the holes in the crossmember of my Rogue RML rack. I had to make my own,much smaller pins to fix that.Fortunately I own a lathe and could make them myself. It works,but it looks a little bit improvised.

Good review! Is there extra things you can add to prevent the loading pin from swaying?

Looks like this could be a great option for a lot of people short on space but maybe wouldn't be satisfied with a cheap pandemic style pulley system. Great review, Brandon 👌

Just in operation is this as smooth feeling as the Prime unit for lat pulldowns?

I feel like the low row didnt need the foot plate, cant you just use the rack, or add some wood blocks if you deperately need it or some other attachment but it should get out the way so i can just leave it on

Hi man! Quick one... why your LT150 arms are white? did you ordered special in white or you painted them? Thanks

It's a very solid piece of equipment and IMO worth every penny (didn't purchase the row piece tho). Depends what you want like B stated. You can go to home Depot and make yourself some cheap pull system but that is exactly what it is. To each his own but I'll pretty happy with my SS purchase. Very well built, no sway and looks OE with my Rogue rack

Do they mount on a functional trainer single column? Like a Rogue or very economical Titan wall mount.

It’s hard sell. Rep sells a complete weight plate pulley system for 400$ to add to the Rep 4000, which includes a low row. It saves space but just a hard sell for most home gym owners.

I think you say “Back in the basement again” to convince us you ever left the basement in the first place.

Ordered one about two months ago

Are you in the market for a leg press, would love to see a review on a good bolt together frame leg press.

Just bought it. You don't have an affiliate link for this unless I missed it

What about the Phoenix pulley system from Bridge Built?

Where did you get the shirt from man? Big old school WWE fan here, would love to get some.

So, for people that have a rep rack, is there any reason to use this over their plate loaded lat pulldown/row thing?

Any update on the barbell you were creating?

Change the cable to 4.8 mm and u will see a better result .. the cable looks very stiff .. not pending by gravity (ive dont my comparison and there is a big difference)

have you ever tried to use the low pulley as a "belt squat" ?

I get your problems with the Spud Inc pulley system. It's not fancy, it's kind of a pain in the ass and yeah, sure, it might decapitate someone. But it does everything you need from a pulley system. Or at least everything I need from a pulley system.

I’ll take it b

If only rogue made a rack mounted pulley system similar to rep’s

How did the Spud Inc. system almost decapitate you?

Hey Brandon what would you recommend for something that will allow you to do cable crossover and lat pull down? I have a rack but I want to get a stack based functional trainer or something ideally that I could do both on, maybe lat by pulling up a bench, although some of the Amazon ones say they have attachments, they don’t look to sturdy… Do you have any videos or thoughts on this? Love your prime stack and other pulley reviews. Price isn’t a massive concern but I only have space for either a functional trainer or lat pull down and would love one that does both. I could go for a rogue cave set up dual stacks but can’t find reviews on that. Love the content dude and really appreciate your knowledge!

I hope ur able to spend time upstairs too

It looks like a great piece of equipment but I am going to make it myself for half the price or more.

1. Unreal shirt 2. Unreal tan 3. random question...whats the depth of your entire rack? I know you've got the rm5 style'd rack

My surplus strength ups high arrived yesterday after waiting for it for two months. It is disappointing. The machining is sloppy with nearly a 1/16" of an inch gap between the uhmw and the bar. It rattles all over the cross piece. The bolt area has no support behind it all. I sent a mail to Jason (the owner) to discuss. At first, I mailed an automated email with a no-reply address without realizing it. When I didn't get a response, I sent it a second time to the correct address. Jason was noticeably upset in his response that I hadn't waited 24 hours and he offered to send me some tape to fix it. My impression: don't bother with this thing. Rack mounted gliders like the Bully Glider is a much better option. I personally have that device and it is incredibly well made and smooth.

So we just need rogue to buy them out and then we’ll get these at a reasonable cost😂

What about Spud Inc. econo pulley system lol

I bought a lot of this stuff to try and save money. I finally broke down and got a functional trainer and a lat pull down. ...lol Good by 4 grand

I think you have to go around the gym and and pick out items you have not reviewed yet

While the $250 Fitness Reality power cage may not be BETTER than the rep or rogue racks, the $250 fitness reality plate loaded lat pull down/ low row attachment for it looks far better than this thing for $800, you claim that this is like a refined Mercedes but to your average viewer it comes off far more like a gold plated unicycle, it’s silly.

Demo ???

If only Jason would add a single pulley to go with this - without the cheesy foot grips

Completely over priced imo. My Rep PR4000 lat pull down is far superior and way less.

While mounting your attachment you might finger it; don't worry you have two different sized holes. Depending on the size of your hardware.🤣🤣🤣

You used the term “fingering” three too many times. 😂

I'm sure it's nice. I'm also still sure it's extremely overpriced. It's about $75 of tubing, some cheap pulleys and a $10 cable.

This system doesn't interest me at all, despite it being popular among home gym owners. I think I'm going to pre order the bully fab bully glider, and order the Rogue slinger in combination with Rogues lat pulldown/low row seat.

Sell me a membership to your basement bro

Hais I wish I was a billionare

$550 + shipping to canada lol

Still think it’s overpriced lol

$450 for 2 plastic pulleys and a 2ft long piece of steel. I'll pass.

Of course u are gonna say it is worth the money now that they gave u one. If u still said it was too expensive then they would tell u to send it back to them. So the customer again gets a biased review from a reviewer getting products and/or kickbacks. We need reviewers to give unbiased reviews but that is just not gonna happen when these reviewers are getting free stuff and kickbacks. Everybody ends up happy except the person who is actually gonna buy it. He doesnt know the quality or if it's worth the money until he/she buys it.

Not sure how you can say a formed single piece of 3/16 " or 1/4" plate is quality. Garbage. and would never buy.

First time I’ve been first!

Price point is absurd, even at half price that ain't worth it. If you ask me how much raw steel would be used for something worth $700+ I would say like, quadruple the amount of steel these two pieces have. Thumbs down.