Thanks for keeping these videos available. I come back to it every once in awhile. 15 years later and still most people do not understand this.
@Traxxion4 жыл бұрын
Short of the specific older GSXR information, it is all still useful!
@jimbrown5634 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this. Back 45 years ago, it required some substantial experimentation to get my dirt bike to be stable and handle well enough to actually be fun to ride. With proper setup, you can drag the foot-pegs, on the street, with Full Knobby Tires, with complete confidence. This is with the pegs being 13" off the ground on a narrow dirt bike frame, no kidding. Back then, street bikes basically had NO suspension, and were really scary to ride, my 2-stroke dirt bike, with it's 8.5" of suspension travel on both ends, would run circles around any street bike under 50 mph if there was even the slightest roughness on the road. I really don't understand the people who want their bike to be "twitchy" and "quick", as far as I'm concerned, that's just a good way to crash and burn. You need to have adequate "Trail" even when you are under heavy brake dive. I didn't know what "trail" was at the time, but I knew that getting the forks as long as possible fixed everything, no more head-shake in deep sand, and the bike just goes where you want it with just a slight weight shift. You can even ride with no hands in the dirt.
@Traxxion4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@equalizer46332 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos! they help a lot. I'm currently customizing my GPZ900R and need info on the optimal settings. Going from 18'' rear to a 17'', and probably a modern front suspension.
@Traxxion2 жыл бұрын
That's a big project, you'll have to have some expert help to get that all working correctly.
@CHD20464 жыл бұрын
Really good information. Explanation in details about motorcycle geometry and suspension. Great info
@Traxxion4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@mi16pim2 жыл бұрын
Great series, very informative for a novice like me!
@Traxxion2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@barrywhite42914 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, i have a question about the rake and trail numbers. Are they also mesured with the suspention hanging off the ground like you say with the swingarm angle? Thanks in advance, and for these video's i am learning alot from it. Greetings Barry.
@Traxxion4 жыл бұрын
Yes they are. All suspension topped out. But take note, this is really old video, and if you have a current, modern bike, the exact numbers will have changed most likely. Consult racing forums and such for current angles and numbers people are using.
@barrywhite42914 жыл бұрын
@@Traxxion thank you for the quick respons, i am riding a 1995 cbr 600 f3 on track days so the video's are ahead of my bike 👍 ha ha Its a fun bike, they have put me in the fastest class now with 1000cc bikes, so i want to learn the most of base setup to have a good starting point and learn as i go. Thanks again this helps me alot to go faster.
@Traxxion4 жыл бұрын
@@barrywhite4291 A lot of the numbers do apply to your bike. That bike needed a lot more ride height in the rear, and a much stiffer spring than stock. The fork needed much stiffer springs as well.
@barrywhite42914 жыл бұрын
@@Traxxion i bought a after market WP rearshock from the same time erea and the guy at the suspension shop here in the netherlands said they also drove high in the back with these bike's, this shock is 290mm long with adjuster all the way in the original shock is 280mm. The bike is lazy turning in, and mid corner its like a train on rails and i can not feel anything what the bike is doing it feels like i am a passenger. So i will begin with the 12 degrees swing angel and work from there, i have ohlings liniair spings in the front for my weight, and the spring in the rear i have no info it says 140-130 on the spring.