Chris sends the Bike World crew home and takes a ride on the Suzuki GSX-8S on some of his local roads, a simple Vlog on Dave!
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@geneharrogate69114 ай бұрын
Much as I love my Euro bikes, I know a Jappa will tolerate indifferent maintenance, daily flogging, being put away wet and still be more or less turnkey reliable and still make you smile for thousands of K's. They were the perfect choice for a constantly broke apprentice back in the day.
@Trevster654 ай бұрын
I tried the hornet 750, Honda cb650r, triumph trident 660 and the bmw 850gs before riding the 8s. I bought the 8s and after 2700 miles it still makes me smile and I don’t regret it one bit. Not everyone’s cup of tea as there are better looking and more powerful bikes for less but I like the power delivery on the 8s.
@houseofroos4 ай бұрын
What were the pros for you of the Zook?
@ilmiosmani3689Ай бұрын
Dont forget tho put an aftermarket exhaust its a must !
@RupeWilson4 ай бұрын
As i rider of a 2014 duke 390 I feel this would be the perfect upgrade. Perfect for the back lane blasting and a light commute to work.
@arunps77194 ай бұрын
The 390 Duke has its flaws, but gdamn it's a thriller, don't sell it, they don't make bikes like that anymore
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
10-15 kg lighter? Swap exhaust. Swap to lithium battery. 12 lb removed. ECU flash for another 9 hp, 10 ft-lb. Amazing bark, sound. Want to spend money on a bike it doesn't make sense to spend money on? Have a set of forged alloy or carbon fiber wheels made. Knock off another 10-12 pounds. You essentially have everything you're asking for. Nevertheless, the weight is coming from the steel mainframe and steel subframe. Alloy is expensive due to casting costs.
@pauln68034 ай бұрын
I doubt there's a huge difference from the subframe when you factor in the strength needed. KTM can build entire frames out of chrome-moly that are light and stiff. Aftermarket cans will shave off 5kg easy if it's something quality like Akra or Arrow, but the cheaper ones can be surprisingly heavy in comparison. Wheels? Absolutely the biggest difference to handling. But forged ally doesn't always make that much of a difference. I had an old Aprilia RSV-R with the forged OZ wheels straight after a base Mille (cast Brembo wheels) and maybe noticed a small difference in turn in, but that could've been the stiff, recently refreshed Ohlins setup on the R over the (past their best) Showa/Sachs on the Mille. Carbon wheels? Now that's going to be noticed immediately and in almost every way. I rode my KTM RC8R for over 5 years before finding a set of carbon Dymag off eBay (there's such a thing as too much orange!). I've always taken the bike press with a pinch of salt when they say "transforms the bike", but it was like losing 20kg off the bike. The KTM was already a sharp and easy to ride machine, but the new wheels really did make the handling lighter and easier.
@CraftyMrRyan4 ай бұрын
I've had the 8S since July last year and it's just ticked over 3000miles. It's my first bigger bike after a 125 so I don't really have anything to compare it to. But I've loved every mile of mine. It's plenty quick enough but also not intimidating at all. It fits my body perfect at 6ft (The Hornet 750 felt too small). Coincidently the roads in the video are the exact roads I ride along when I get the opportunity.. I knew the road as soon as the video started! Sad really. Would highly recommend the 8S to anyone thinking of it as an option.
@pauldaum65134 ай бұрын
the 8S must be mind-boggeling coming from a 125 :D I found the low end power much higher than I would have expected from this class of bike
@CraftyMrRyan4 ай бұрын
@@pauldaum6513 15bhp jump to just over 80bhp certainly puts a smile on your face. The low end torque makes it feel faster too due to the instant punch in most gears. It's really useable and geared for the road.. I think it would run out of puff on the track though as you'd be wanting a bit extra up the rev range. But for everyday legal speeds you wouldn't want any more (can't complain with 60mph in sub 4 seconds)..
@mikeamphlett79139 сағат бұрын
Actually. I have bought one because of the great reviews they have received and also I am in my 70s, i want a bike that is not too heavy, and is comfortable and mainly reliable. Fits the bill just right. Swapped it for a 310kg HD
@urbanstrencan4 ай бұрын
Also great work Chris love your reviews ❤😊❤
@bc3nt4 ай бұрын
i like the motovlog content here and there!
@telbenj4 ай бұрын
Perfect example of the pot hole issue we have in this country
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
There are riders, and then there are those who think they are riders. Those who use their bikes regularly look for the kinds of attributes in this "boring" bike that all armchair-racer comments here castigate. And - of course - they haven't even sat on one, let alone spent time with it. From nearly all accounts, this is an entertaining bike. But in the real world, the comfort, ease of performance-access, and slam-dunk reliability of the 8, only adds to the ownership experience - particularly for real riders who use the thing as often as their acceptance of the weather permits. I've got a Speed Triple and a Super Tenere ES. I love them both. And they are quite different. But...if I really need to be somewhere, and without arriving all folded up and cranky, it's the ST. It's heavier, doesn't care to be rev'd past 8500 (even with a flash), and doesn't cut a profile like the Speed. But it can CLIP, and I have real fun on it. The Bullet Train can def keep up on the winding roads. Plus! I can crack off easy 500-mile days as simply as a quick trip to the store. And it NEVER has let me down. To each their own, but before you open your yap, throw a leg over some of these "snoozer" bikes. Even with just a little bit of skill they are ANYTHING but boring. I save the Speed for the short, angry rides. Enjoyable, just the same.
@Farsightful4 ай бұрын
Nice weather. 😊
@nickrider52204 ай бұрын
My mate Dave !
@xclent19754 ай бұрын
I just skipped over the class and just went straight to a late model 2015 Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx under 10k miles and $4500 USD … with panniers heated grips and Sargent heated seat …. Good deals are out there go find them !
@paulconnell13094 ай бұрын
Nice ride. Wow, narrow roads. Bit too much on the weight and perhaps not enough on the torque which is rich and fun to ride with the quick shifter.
@creedm30404 ай бұрын
Awesome video! The countryside was beautiful. Where was that? Best!
@barryrose48504 ай бұрын
Good video as always. I know more boring Dave’s than reliable Dave’s 🤷🏻♂️
@alphacapo7 күн бұрын
Suzuki always rides nice and feels rock solid because of the little extra weight. Built for daily use to last
@alwarren26534 ай бұрын
May 2023 a dealer had an extra GSX-8S dropped off in blue. I wanted white. Not sure Hornet direct comparison on spec. and next Hornet delivery Aug./Sept. Review by med. on launch said MPG doubtful due to fill ups and caning. I went for £6500 and three free services deal on the SV650 - known engine and 66mpg - Do I really need KTM Duke 790/890 or GSX-8S performance on the road?
@dariocp874 ай бұрын
Chris! What happened with the bmw 1000r you were fixing? And can you review the Aprilia Tuareg? Cheers mate! Big fan of this channel!
@user-jf9wp2qn6f4 ай бұрын
If it was your money would you save £1,500 and buy an SV650 and put up with less outright performance and tech over a more involving riding experience ?
@kswager22174 ай бұрын
I’d say save a bit more and buy a used sv650. No reason buying a newer one
@gerryryan23024 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t give my mate Dave the key to a tin of pilchards !!
@shanestewart49054 ай бұрын
Tame wet rides you upload are better than no uploads Chris. More please.
@flamintasty4 ай бұрын
The dash is nice 😊
@mrwaerialphotography93254 ай бұрын
Where are you based? More than happy if you wanted to test ride mine. Got a full arrow system, no cat or baffle, dna air filter, 3d printed air box lid delete, flashed ecu and a lithium battery to drop the weight a bit. Sounds incredible with an exhaust.
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
Did flash open it up as expected?
@mrwaerialphotography93254 ай бұрын
@@allwheeldrive if you do supporting modifications, exhaust and air filter it's a very noticeable increase in torque and doesn't fall flat on its face when you rev it out. Vcyclenut has very detailed dyno runs with every possible performance modification currently available, best he's gotten was 90hp. With a longer duration cam to bring the power higher up the rev range it would very likely take that closer to 95-100hp.
@Oilyhands7494 ай бұрын
Looks like a breakers yard bike, did they run out of paint?
@dotdashdotdash4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Yam TRX, a bike that looked half arsed
@loztagain82784 ай бұрын
I preferred the look of the 8s to the hornet. I went to test the hornet, great bike. Went to test the Suzuki and it was too heavy for where I need to manoeuvre it. I was going from a 2004 Suzuki sv650s and had already found that hard to wheel around in my back yard where I keep it, so couldn't justify too much more weight.
@jeffs24854 ай бұрын
Thanks, a very useful comment. Same issue for me.
@alphacapo7 күн бұрын
Are you guys older riders or smaller men?
@loztagain82786 күн бұрын
@@alphacapo i'm 6ft 3, in my 30s. My back yard is grass on a slope.... sometimes it rains, and the ground is slippery. I'll be getting the area paved probably next year.
@martinhughes97694 ай бұрын
Love Suzuki's, I'm fed up with manufacturers chucking out 2 cylinder bikes ,
@Druezy4 ай бұрын
I'm so torn between this and the RC390. I know I'm going to want to get something like a Duke 990 eventually, so I don't know whether to start with the RC390 and turn it into a track bike later or get the 8S and trade it in. The 390 seems like so much fun on the roads here in New England. 6'3" 210, I'm sure most would say 8S.
@houseofroos4 ай бұрын
There are usually a half dozen late model Duke 390s near me on Facebook marketplace. You could get one of those for a season and sell it for nearly what you paid.
@Druezy4 ай бұрын
@@houseofroos A 2023 brand new RC is discounted to $4299 at a few dealers. That's a lot of fun for that money. I wouldn't buy one used.
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
Easy. Get the Suk, have great fun getting to know it, flash the ECU, keep going!
@markputnam63714 ай бұрын
I feel a Chris project bike coming on. Shed some bike weight, liven up the exhaust......
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
And...an ECU flash?!
@garethevans17514 ай бұрын
where can I watch bike world on tv, I can't find you anymore?
@urbanstrencan4 ай бұрын
Between this, Honda Hornet 750, KTM Duke 790 what is your choice?
@budmiller38234 ай бұрын
used MT09
@ramo9404 ай бұрын
Nice, but I'd pick the GSX-S 1000 for also good value.😉 both very good though👍👍
@UpsideDownFork4 ай бұрын
I do love my gsx-s1000 still after a couple of years. It's a great real road bike, but for 99% of riding, it's just twice the power you really need. Riding the GSX-8S was pretty eye opening for me. It's a better all round package out of the box. It is greater than the sum of it's parts. If you want a weekend thrasher with high performance then the 1000 is better, but for most day to day riding, i think the 8s is every bit as good. Controversial I know!
@ramo9404 ай бұрын
@@UpsideDownForkmeaty old school inline four with screaming topend for sometimes - don't swop😉
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
@@UpsideDownFork I've done similar before. After piling on a lot of miles on a tuned FZ1, I had to admit it was only really fun when most laws were being broken. I sold it and went back to an SV650S with a full exhaust at the time. These days after a few more bike genres and different engine configurations, I'm a fan of either triples or twins. I do like a four, no double about it, but they tend to be fun when you're on high alert for law enforcement and that only lasts a few moments every few rides. The rest of the time it feels vanilla and like everything's too easy and without any challenge. It seems most 1L fours (in most categories) are being sold today on spec sheet numbers. Too many people are hyped about spending $28k on a BMW that makes 200 horsepower, not realizing perhaps, that if they don't run the engine above 9,000 rpm, they really have an engine producing about half that power. "Nice to have it when you need it" is nothing but a justification for driving an F1 car to groceries and bumbling around backroads, having spent well over 2x as money money for it.
@ramo9404 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocketok, I live in Germany and just had it at 150 mph for a minute - hard work without a windshield😅 impressive though
@MouldyPIX4 ай бұрын
Chris - can you share what road you did the test drive on..? 👌
@CraftyMrRyan4 ай бұрын
It's in South Wales. The start is here.. 51°50'32.2"N 3°40'13.6"W
@bengraham66724 ай бұрын
It'd interesting to see the gsx-8r against say, a k6 gsxr 600
@SmkinBarrel4 ай бұрын
Shopping between this and the Triumph Trident 660. Does anyone have experience with both? What’s everyone’s vote and recommendation between the two?
@wl6604 ай бұрын
I have had my Trident for 3 years, 15k…love it. A keeper…I will get other bikes but only when I have space to keep the Trident. Ride them both - go with your instinct.
@outquick4 ай бұрын
How would you compare this to the GSX-S750?
@outquick4 ай бұрын
Me I’ve had a bunch of bikes, ride at the twistiest roads in America and I like the S750 a lot, but it needs a seventh gear.
@myfewmoments4 ай бұрын
@@outquickif you need a 7th gear on S750, 8S definitely is not for you
@outquick3 ай бұрын
See you at the dragon 🐉
@nockianlifter6614 ай бұрын
Lights, weight, lack of wind protection and no cruise control put me off. Bought a Tuono 660 factory instead.
@xorbe24 ай бұрын
8S or Monster 937?
@dani256834 ай бұрын
Monster
@disekjoumoer4 ай бұрын
Chris likes Dave. Who knew? 😜
@luuceichhorn44894 ай бұрын
Try the CB750 Hornet in comparison
@damon1957ful4 ай бұрын
I have tested back to back and the 8s kicks the hornet in to the gutter
@_audacerider38384 ай бұрын
Honda's Hornet 750 is 190kg wet GSX8S is 202kg wet so 12kg difference. Get rid of the Euro 5 exhaust monstrosity under the bike and fit a full exhaust system and you easily will drop GSX8S's weight to 195kg. I think one of the Suzuki's Endurance Sert riders had a GSX8S with a full exhaust at the press event for the GSX8R and with full exhaust and a ECU flash that engine will easily get 95bhp that is supposed to be the limit for the new supersport twin class.
@Teatimeted4 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm just a fat lad that is used to riding big heavy bikes, but can anyone really tell the difference when it comes down to 12 KG? My breakfast at Greggs weighs more than 12 KG.
@dreadnaught6884 ай бұрын
@Teatimeted depends where it carries the weight
@JD-fd6gt4 ай бұрын
Its only 11 more pounds than the origional 2003 cbr600rr was. You can drop some pounds with a full system.
@DaleMt09sp4 ай бұрын
Not partially fast pretty much heaviest in class with the longest wheelbase not much top end so in essence not all that fun in the grand scheme of things I’d have one over nothing because it has 2 wheels and a engine but would be hard to walk past the Honda ktm and yam for it in the class forgetting the z650 because that’s hateful 😂 with the gen 4 coming out dealers are giving the stock gen 3 mt09 away for 8k as well some food for thought it’s better than any other bike I mentioned
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Less than 450 pounds these days is "heavy." Either the human race is getting very whimpy, or totally losing perspective.
@DaleMt09sp4 ай бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket heaviest in class…. Meaning it’s heavier than its competitors
@eldiablomatadore85804 ай бұрын
whole weight argument falls off when u start counting weight including brake , oil and coolant fluids
@svracing34 ай бұрын
Annoying how much hate these bikes get I had the r7 and loved it just as much as the r6 I had a few years before you can’t complain 600 and 1000’s are dying and not be a buyer of them that’s why they die
@Crsf844 ай бұрын
It’s maybe a one sided view but these “middle weight” bikes just seem very unflattering, Back in the olden days 😂 I was spoilt growing up from fizzy 50, tzr 125 onto rgv 250 then finally the rvf 400 followed by zx6 then many litre sports bikes imo the best one being the k5 gsxr 1000. I have had a shot of some of these bikes and they just seem pointless. It’s almost like they created a category nobody needed.
@BikeWorldTVshow4 ай бұрын
Not by choice though, the manufacturers are being forced into making these to get through all the emissions rules.
@tepidtuna74504 ай бұрын
The extra weight is better engineering.
@davea99464 ай бұрын
And better stability
@ronwhite85034 ай бұрын
That's what I say about my extra weight.
@GazBromley4 ай бұрын
It's an EU regulated parallel twin. Suzuki have left MotoGP and they're winding things down, and heading into huge car production. Toyota made a deal with Suzuki to make cars. Heartbreaking....money wins over passion.
@-DC-4 ай бұрын
Always hilarious seeing the 😭 in the comments regarding parallel twins, If people still bought 4 Cyl Sports Bikes they'd still be on sale but the market evaporated, Similar to the people crying about Land Rover ceasing to build the old Defender which nobody bought new either. Its a Business like it or not.
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
Yeah, and it's - in reality - no compromise, but a daily-driver improvement! Wringing a four's neck in town, and even on some wonderful, winding public roads, can actually become a study in frustration (and law avoidance, which can get pretty tiring, pretty quickly). There is NOTHING wrong with usable mid-range unless it is a dedicated track bike.
@CharlieboySLONDON4 ай бұрын
I've been riding for 33 year this year, after riding every engine type I won't ride a 4cyl unless it's crossplane. I have a Triple a single and a Parrelel twin. The character of a new Parrelel Twin in my 890R is probably one of the most usable, fun bikes I've ever owned. I've owned faster and more powerfull. I love triples for touring. Single for single track. Torque is what you need on the roads not revs. Lots of people I think just read stats and base a bike on its BHP (revs) and weight. There's so much more to it.
@GligaChaz4 ай бұрын
They did though, the GSX-S750 was a great seller, despite the reviews.
@KnightRider11574 ай бұрын
Suzuki have made the washing machine of motorcycles
@rajashekarbellamkonda90514 ай бұрын
First comment
@Bow-to-the-absurd4 ай бұрын
And you really smashed it out the park.
@TheBas19844 ай бұрын
Nah, buy the gsx-s1000, far more bike
@flamintasty4 ай бұрын
This 👆
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
Nah, buy the 1390 Super Duke R. Far more bike. Nah, buy the MTT-420RR. Far more bike. See? You can go forever with this. Why would you bother watching a video about a 85 horsepower accessible street bike when you've made 150 horsepower your minimum?
@TheBas19844 ай бұрын
Yes, but in this case i still would go for the s-1000, because i own one. If you dont want a 1000cc bike, get the gsx-s750, the 4 cilinder is a lot more smoothe and give a sporty feel, the twins dont have that.
@GligaChaz4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'd go for the gsx-s1000 over this. Glad I got my gsx-s750 before they stopped making them.
@johnnyblue47994 ай бұрын
Just another lackluster parallel twin.
@BikeWorldTVshow4 ай бұрын
This is the 2 wheeled world we're living in now Johnny.
@nickb39684 ай бұрын
You are correct sir.
@johnnyblue47994 ай бұрын
@@BikeWorldTVshow I know and I don't quite like it. But any bike is better than no bike at all.
@CharlieboySLONDON4 ай бұрын
@johnnyblue4799 how many have you ridden ? Have you tried a 890R ? Nuda R ? ... nothing wrong with these engines in the right bike. I miss the 600 screamers don't get me wrong. But as Street bikes I'd choose my 890R over my R6 all day everyday unless I was going to the track.
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
@@johnnyblue4799 Another predictable, boring, out of context comment.
@johnbanks93924 ай бұрын
So in a word "bland"
@sancoblanco4 ай бұрын
I can't stand the looks of this bike from the profile. From the middle and to the front it looks like MT07 with sharper edges and updated plastic and the tail section looks like something coming off a triumph bike. It's so unpropotional and weird. I have owned previous GSX-S750 and that bike is aesthetically so much better looking. GSX-R8 does look more balanced tho!
@Errol.C-nz4 ай бұрын
What ever happened to actual reviewing.. it's just like it's cousin the P-Strom.. overweight underpowered characterless PIG.. Sz should have refined the 1050 V.. a MUCH better engine.. & bike.. & could've been a fair bit cheaper to make levels better than this PoS!
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
Can you post YOUR review for us?
@exothermal.sprocket4 ай бұрын
"overweight underpowered characterless PIG" Are you referring to your fitness level, or a motorcycle that's already entered into MotoAmerica twins cup?
@Supercharged19764 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that feels like they're trying to drive the whole world into an Asian inspired motorcycle market? All they are coming out with are these cheap ass bargain basement bikes and trying to get people excited about them. Soon we'll be thinking wow look at that cool dude on that 800.....man how does he handle that 75 hp....so fast. Sad day in the superbike world fella's. All these p.o.s.'s are nothing more than over rated scooters and every review you watch on them they are trying SO hard to make it sound good and you can just tell their like F this p.o.s.
@donderstorm18454 ай бұрын
boy what in tarnation are you talking about
@petrol1117 күн бұрын
Man some people really have their ego linked to horsepower. Having the horsepower is totally pointless unless you're taking it to a track or trying to kill yourself on public roads. I have the GSX 8S and it does exactly what I wanted it to do. It's insanely fun to ride, it's very precise and stable, it's a rocketship in its happy mid range, and the tech there is all great. Fact is we've had liter plus bikes for a long time now and nobody out there driving them anywhere near capacity on open roads for anything longer than a youtube stunt.
@Supercharged197617 күн бұрын
@@petrol11 Well it's great that you love yours. The point I was making is that they are doing away with real superbikes and trying to pass these off as "just as good" I've been riding superbikes since 1992 and I can tell you there are plenty of people riding them to their limit on a daily basis. The circles you run in might be conservative and ride slow (nothing wrong with that as it saves you from tickets and accidents) but the circles I ride in we roll race, drag race and top speed run almost every time we go out. My Z H2 currently is sitting around 230 hp @ the wheel and I can tell you without a doubt it gets used....a lot. The GSX 8S is literally like buying a 500cc 4 cyclinder. If that's what you like that's great. In the mountains I'm sure it would be a freaking blast but, in the circles that most superbike riders run you'd end up riding alone back to where ever you were all meeting up.
@Steeps19693 ай бұрын
What a poor choice of roads to review/talk about a bike of that cc? Why?
@dalemeadows2254 ай бұрын
Nice video, boring bike
@pabloblascocarrascosa54254 ай бұрын
No squids?? No wheelies??😢😢😢 Boring bike
@allwheeldrive4 ай бұрын
Ahhhh, the smell of wasted testosterone. I'll bet you're a ranked racer, correct? And that you take your show on public roads, correct? Frankly, if you can't life the front-end on this bike, it's back to elementary school!
@bensmith75364 ай бұрын
Ive had a GSXR600 and a GSXR1000 in the past, I can honestly say they were the best most reliable bikes Ive ever had. I wasted money on a rusty Ducati, I burned cash on a late model KTM 1290S and will never waste money on that utterly unreliable brand again. I have a '23 BMW GS1250 ADV now but if i could afford a second bike, it would be a Zook without hesitation.
@petrol1117 күн бұрын
Don't let the haters distract, this is an absolute blast to ride, and for a first gen it's basically had no major issues afaik. It's a really solid machine.
@bytesandbikes4 ай бұрын
"Tuck bike away for winter" ?!?! Heresy! 🧊🥶
@ThaBootyBandit4 ай бұрын
I know this is gonna sound controversial But why would you want a bike that inst exciting to talk about? I mean if you really dont care then why buy anything new when any old honda or a scooter will do? If you get done riding and you dont look back at it or give it a good pat then you bought the wrong bike. I dont see the point of buying a bike that isnt exciting to ride or fun to talk about. I feel like they could've put a bit more effort into this bike to make it stand out other than just being cheap. Hopefully you get to ride the daytona 660 soon which seems to be in the same budget boat as the GSX8R. We NEED your opinion Chris.