Swage block substitutes and the ever useful forging stump or log

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6 жыл бұрын

After showing an assortment of swage blocks and looking at the online prices for these wonderful tools, it became obvious that not everyone can afford a swage block. Lets looks at a log or stump as well as some salvaged objects that are good substitutes for the swage block.
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@joshh130 20 күн бұрын

I watch one of your videos where you use a swage block, quickly google swage block alternative and end up right back here. Fantastic videos and all the answers to my smithing questions!

@K38rescue 2 жыл бұрын

Its a true privilege to be in your audience and learn about your craftsmanship, thanks so much

@hobbyhermit66 8 ай бұрын

Great info. Nice to see I'm not the only one that sees something else in what I'm looking at.

@standaffern6595 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the shout out John. Your channel was the inspiration for the making of the shovel. I am in need many smithing tools, and started with one I didn't have. That required making a form. A friend had just conveniently dropped off a large pickup load of green cottonwood, which doesn't make very good firewood, cause it tends to stay wet forever. Almost perfect though for making a swedge block, as it doesn't burn hardly at all when making contact with hot metal. So a usful purpose for what nobody really wants. The rest of the load is being made into a wooden walkway by cutting into 2 inch rounds and setting in sand between rounds. It would be great if you made a short video of handle variations of shop forge tools, if you haven't already.

@petertricker792 6 жыл бұрын

Hello John, I would say NO to the live stream. Black Bear Forge is about the detail, in my opinion, and the style of presentation you have right now is great. There's no reason to live stream and you already spend so much time with the channels KZfaq Facebook etc. Enough is enough. Keep doing what you do, you're one of the best. 👏👏👏

@kerryirwin5581 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely love your videos Finally found someone who makes sense, I'm 58 and been making things all my life .... look forward to seeing all your videos and of course future ones , thank you.

@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I am glad the videos are helpful.

@donstephenson9474 6 жыл бұрын

The log thing is one of the things we old blacksmiths need to share with the novices. Good looking out! I don't have nor am I interested in having a KZfaq channel but I'm glad that you're out there teaching this stuff. Good job John. Nay for me on the live stream. Keep up the good work.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@kimcurtis423 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love for you to do a Livestream, John! I'd like to listen and maybe I'd have a question or 2! You are such a good teacher, I will always be happy to listen to anything you have to say! Your wealth of knowledge and wisdom is priceless! Yes! It would be great! I wish I could donate to you but, being disabled and on SS it's hard to even get through most months! I will donate when I can! Stay the wonderful man you are! Have you ever thought about writing a Blacksmithing journey Book? I'd bet it would sell! Thousands of us NEED your knowledge and would pay for it! Be safe! Thanks, John for the videos and for all you do for us!

@rustybow7293 Жыл бұрын

Great vid! I use half a tractor engine block from barn scrap. Works well so far.

@aaronbaker2077 Жыл бұрын

Great job John I’ve been watching you for three or four years now and I like all the things that you were doing you are very informative keep up the good work

@mikegreene1167 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the wooden form reaffirmation, i have seen it a couple of times on line, but having you re affirme that it works is great for my confidence in the technique.

@brysonhampel5731 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the info.....my boy and I are making spoons thanks to you! Bryson

@johndilsaver8409 5 жыл бұрын

I really liked that giant chain link, wow! I hadn't thought of the ring welded on to a piece of pipe, that makes perfect sense. Logs, yup I've got logs. Thanks for another fine video!

@garybeauchamp6602 2 жыл бұрын

You do a great job. Thanks.

@HighWealder 2 жыл бұрын

I think that traditionally armourers used sections of tree trunk for shaping armour.

@adampablodayc 6 жыл бұрын

What?no internet in the shop?ha ha juat kidding.I moved my router just to get your videos closer to the work .I have a stump with a hole in it i am using for punching and drifting,for now anyway .Thank you for all you do.

@stankrieger3137 3 жыл бұрын

the live stream is neat for sure.

@ianturpin9180 6 жыл бұрын

Can I be the first to thank you for another great instructional video

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

Yes you may. You are welcome

@garymyers4496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips

@4rnorthwest 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent suggestions John thank you! I have the luxury of working at my old home town Scrap Yard! I’m the guy in the back that processes all the steel that comes in to our yard! Which means I get first pick on anything I want at cost! It’s crazy. I have to be careful not to trade my paycheck every week for everything I want there. But seriously the things I find while processing is ridiculous. It blows my mind what gets tossed for recycling from our various drop boxes at fabrication shops! Keep on keeping on John!

@overratedprogrammer 2 жыл бұрын

I would definitely spend too much of my paycheck working at a scrap yard

@GeorgiaWoodsmen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info.

@rustybow7293 Жыл бұрын

I think i have that same stump in my shop, lol. :)

@DireWolfForge Жыл бұрын

Holy cow! This was one of the most informative and clever discussions I’ve seen. Thanks so much brother, vast amounts of respect for ya. I’ll be placing another order from you soon!

@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jamesbrandon8520 6 жыл бұрын

As always great video John that chain brings back memory’s of the uss Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier and the uss Nimitz aircraft carrier that I had the pleasure of taking a Cruise on and they had 3 foot long chain links that weighed 350 each

@michaelosterbuhr9369 Жыл бұрын

Thanks you

@DBCoopstain 6 жыл бұрын

As always great info for those who do not have time or an available mentor/local blacksmith community.

@davedreds5905 6 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. Probably would rather watch them than livestream (besides the time difference usually doesnt work for me in Australia). Youve been great at answering any Qs I have on the comments. Keep up the great work :)

@anthonykent7983 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video John, good tips! You give so much time too us all ready, live stream sounds good. And I would try to link in to it but for me it's not the most important way you help us. You do so much to be proud of already please don't get bogged down to much. Thanks bro. Anthony Kent

@WinDancerX 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, John! Picked up at least three new [to me] ideas that I will use. NAY un the live stream- you are already backed up too much. Rather see you making things and you sometimes answer Q's in every video- some just haven't been asked yet :) Dave

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I doubt the live stream will work well with my slow connection speeds anyway.

@fryscountrylifechannel4437 5 жыл бұрын

Nay to the live stream, but I do like what you do. Your inspirational keep doing what you do, thank you.

@kevinlwiltfong7941 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the knowledge you share!

@disasterprophet 4 жыл бұрын

Great video ! Thank you very much

@klkkylekin5948 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the ideas keep the videos coming

@adambrown3634 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video John. Since stumbling across one of your videos about 6 months ago I've set myself up a gas forge, railway track anvil and leg vice in my garage. I've made loads of tools and cool gifts for friends and family. I've even sold a few things at a local gift store.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are making great progress. I am glad I could help

@bearshield7138 3 жыл бұрын

thank you

@loul7239 6 жыл бұрын

More great information. I, personally, don’t watch live streams often. Plus, I find that you are very responsive to people’s questions here. If you had the extra time I would love to see you spend some time as a member of iforgeiron. Your philosophy, methods and knowledge base would be well received and valued there. People here could simply follow you over to there for discussions.

@grandadz_forge 6 жыл бұрын

Stan is full of surprises. Lol

@fernandotorresmarini8961 6 жыл бұрын

Tankyou very much Jhon!

@gregsmith3289 6 жыл бұрын

Good ideas, John. Thanks for the info. I've recently been on the search for items just like this. I'll keep these ideas in mind.

@dankeebler6171 6 жыл бұрын

Gas cylinder caps are handy, thanks and good video as always.

@bret354 6 жыл бұрын

love your videos, yes to live stream.

@reneemills-mistretta790 5 жыл бұрын

Great ideas to look for shapes that are useful.

@robbullis5025 6 жыл бұрын

I would say Nay on the live stream. I enjoy watching you build tools and then the projects they are needed for. Looking forward to giving one of your adzes a workout this summer.

@paulmorrey733 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@marianogarabato1111 6 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this video! I live in argentina and i practically impossible buy a swage block so all the time we need make things in other way. Thanks for make this videos. Keep doing! Best regards from Argentina

@marcsenteney3160 6 жыл бұрын

Very useful information sir thank you for sharing. Other options are alway helpful.

@rjspillane1 6 жыл бұрын

Hello John, I agree completely with Peter. Love it just the way it is.

@bentoombs 6 жыл бұрын

Great ideas. I love the grad cylinder idea. Luckily I have today off. I might go call the people that I bought my welder from. That chain link was awesome, it's on my bucket list. Lol absolutely if you do a livestream you know I'll have to tune in. 👍👍🔨on!!

@jeffbarkett366 6 жыл бұрын

As usual John...another informative video. It had me going..."why didn't I think of that?". A live stream would be awesome if you can get it arranged.

@hosiercraft9675 6 жыл бұрын

You could use that big chain link to forge a post hole digger. lots of comments. Great video as usual. I'm not much on live stream. I'd probably watch offline because most of my KZfaq watching is at break and lunch at work. If I ever had all the black tools I think I need, I believe is need my own planet for storage. LoL.

@joelkoonce8559 10 ай бұрын

You da MAN !!!

@kevinmcintire5435 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video as usual. About the bear, they would be great strikers if you could train them. 😀

@ScrewDriverxxx 6 жыл бұрын

Hi John, thanks for all the videos. As for a live stream, I'm not fussed. I realise how tricky it would be to set up and how much time it would take away from your excellent instructional videos. So I would vote no. Be cool if you could get a shot of that bear though!

@kevingunter5994 2 жыл бұрын

I've been looking a gas cylinder to make a bowl sledge they are kind of hard to find. But I had the idea of getting one of the metal caps that is welded onto the top of a pipe fence the come in different sizes. I love your videos.

@GWIRailroad 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video I will cut the log today, that is one thing we have plenty of is logs. I will also start looking at the pile I have been saving for treasures I did not know I had. Not sure on the live streams, I like the videos best, but I would try and be there live if you choose to do it. We also have a internet issue trying to watch them. Thanks again!!

@tazman8271 3 жыл бұрын

Another AWESOME video. The big chain link was probably a drag line chain. I worked at a surface coal mine that ran 3 big drag lines. The chain links were 3' long and weighed 300# each. We had a special truck with a hydraulic boom to service them.

@danbell3827 2 жыл бұрын

It could also be a piece of an anchor chain, from a mid-sized ship. I've seen massive chain links on the anchors of aircraft carriers and tankers. One that size could be from a small freighter or destroyer sized ship?

@michaelmerrigan1064 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for lots of helpful tips, in this and all your videos. I enjoy your style of presentation. I prefer watching the videos as you now do them. I am not in favor of you doing any live stream.

@randyughlee1750 6 жыл бұрын

Yes definetly do live streams

@jimhumphrey 6 жыл бұрын

A good live stream is very hard to pull off. I've tried watching a few and I mostly tune out after about 10 min. I will watch anything you put out but it's not what I would wish for.

@jjppres 6 жыл бұрын

John I think the ocassional live feed might be a great idea. Certainly worth a try. Often when watching a video a question comes to mind that would be good to ask at that time. Not only to get your answer but feedback by other members as well. Would love to see you give it a shot. Regards!

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

I will probably give it a try. But I don't have high hopes, since they won't be in the shop and because I have such slow connection speeds.

@danielcrawford7315 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. John, i know its over a year old....but i just saw it. So the huge chain link is, what we in the crane industry in west texas oilfield at least, call a Master link. It goes on the hook of the main block. Then the main chains are attatched to it. Two part chains go on a secondary master link forge inside the Master link , then there are 2 chains from 3/4" to 1 1/2" grade 100 or grade 120 chains and 2 short choaker chains. Heavy duty heavy weight chains. Most usually there will be 2 secondary master links w 2 chains each. One that size would be used on from 110 ton to 350 ton. Or 2 of those master links would be used on up to 600 ton crane...each w a set of 2 chains and 2 choaker chains. Ive no experiance w cranes over 500 tons myself. Ive also seen 30 ton shackels or 50 ton shackels used w wire rope up to 2.5 in dia for certain lift or holding a spreader bar. Just what i know them to be, somebody else may know something else. 🙏Blessings your way Crawford out 🧙‍♂️

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information

@bascostbudde7614 6 жыл бұрын

So many of these videos preempt questions I wasn't even aware I had, that I see little added value in streamed content. Let me be bold and suggest, from one teacher to another, you go there only if you feel there is something you can voice there. I can hardly appreciate your sharing time this way enough.

@tommywright7196 5 жыл бұрын

I do watch some live stream but it's usually when in on the internet and it comes on and would watch if u did one and I saw it coming on

@Okie-Tom 5 жыл бұрын

Just found your videos. Very good info. I would say the live stream would only be useful if it was a question and answer session where people could post a problem and you could explain a fix for it. But if you could not do it in the shop I would probably say no. I just subscribed. Tom

@rickratcliff6231 5 жыл бұрын

Live stream no, you do a great job already. Keep some time for you :)

@richardbyerssr5057 3 жыл бұрын

The big link of chain is from an anchor chain from a commercial huge fishing ship or freighter!

@stevesalles6047 4 жыл бұрын

I also suggest get a log end from a tree trimming company they are commonly happy to give logs away instead of having to handle them to get rid of them

@strongsadventures 6 жыл бұрын

I would definitely watch if you did a live stream. Don’t put yourself in a bind doing it though. Maybe if you could do a Q and A once a month that would be good. Thanks for the video.

@DavoShed 6 жыл бұрын

Personally I’m not crazy about the live streaming thing. I find they come out too long and you don’t get to edit. As a pure question and answer thing it may be good for people with lots of questions😀 But I do already have a log! I need a charcoal scoop so I think I might try and make myself one. Another enjoyable video. Thanks. Dave

@charlesjolley3155 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. No need to do the live streams. The videos are good enough.

@paranoy69 5 жыл бұрын

Hello. I see that you have an eye open when you visit auctions or garage sales in order to recover coins that can serve as swage block. thank you for this video. have a good day

@keepcalmandfarmon5401 6 жыл бұрын

Bears aren't much help in the shop! I am still laughing at that. Love your vids...

@stevesalles6047 4 жыл бұрын

I have a coffee can with about 10 holes in it from a big nail I set it on top of my log dish end and fill it with water a couple times prior using my log for a dish work to make my log last longer

@johnwood361 6 жыл бұрын

Outstanding video as always. Really like how you point out and explain alternatives for getting things done. The domed cylinder bottom look like I could have come from a Navy firefighter SCBA (self contained breathing apparatus) air cylinder. They are round on the bottom because of the confined spaces so they don't get hung up on anything.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

That could be. The tank was painted green, but was about the right size. Pretty heavy for wearing, I got spoiled by the newer light weight cylinders we used.

@johnwood361 6 жыл бұрын

Black Bear Forge when I first got to the Kitty Hawk CV 63 we were still using the OBA (oxygen breathing apparatus) with chemical canisters that produced pure oxygen, leather bags, and they were a burn hazard themselves. About 1.5 years later we switched to the SCBA, heavier but much safer. By the way I was a fire party electrician on ship. Loved it, miss it sometimes.

@jhcc289 6 жыл бұрын

I agree about the SCBA tank idea. I just made a dishing form from the end of a SCUBA tank I picked up, and the curve is practically identical.

@Shukarr 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I was wondering where did you find the big huge round flat topped piece of steel at the beginning of the video that you said “ for those in the know this is a pretty special piece of steel”. It seems to me it would make an excellent anvil.

@amgironworks9091 6 жыл бұрын

I do love the videos please keep cranking them out they are very helpful for me since I have no one to apprentice with in my area. Totally off topic, but I have been eyeballing some beginners projects and was looking at making a kiridashi knife. Since you do so well with in depth explanations of how to forge something. Was wondering if you could do a quick little video on step by step of the forging of this knife.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

I am really not much of a knife maker, but that seems simple enough to try at some point.

@PaulFontaniniArtist 6 жыл бұрын

Love the live streams.

@jimlabolito6098 2 жыл бұрын

Shame you can’t get that Bear be a striker for you😆.

@thomasd728 6 жыл бұрын

livestream would be fun

@truegeekified 6 жыл бұрын

Another great video John. Thank you. As for the live streams. I think they can be really fun on rare occasions. But like you’ve already said, your internet is most likely too slow to do even a low quality stream. There is another option though. You could do a live stream every few months from some place that does have good internet. The RMS workshops? I know most of us up here in Denver are able to get pretty fast internet, I have gigabit available. If you let us know in advance a day and time, people would show up. It could be a more Q&A with maybe a small demo in someone else’s shop. That would give your viewers a chance to ask some questions with direct feedback. It’s an idea. Not something that has to be done for any of us to continue enjoying the videos you are making.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

That is an idea.

@BigWillSD 5 жыл бұрын

Like the tool of the day segments, and great swedge tutorial, have you had a video on the forge hood? (How it works, best style, if it's lined ect.) I think that's a very over looked tool.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

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@jonas2431 2 жыл бұрын

That chain link could be used to male a muck shovel

@brandoncooper1962 3 жыл бұрын

Yes wood species matters kinda, you probably want a hard wood vs a soft wood like pine.

@grayem76 6 жыл бұрын

john what i have found from most live streams is always the same questions coming out so its a no from me im happy watching you forge rather than Q and A

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

That is sort of what I was thinking. I may try it, but doubt it will be that interesting

@xxxclampgodxxx5511 6 жыл бұрын

Hello John I’m new to your channel as well as blacksmithing. I’m trying to learn as much as I can but it a lot to take in all at once. Love your videos Im in the process of making a forge out of 6 x 6 square tubing mild steel. I have cut out a few knifes from 1085 bar stock. Grinding is not as easy as it looks. Any ideas on an inexpensive grinding jig Ok thank you for your time and I just want to say I’m a 53 year old retired disables electrican. So if you have any questions feel free to ask. Thanks again

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

I haven't done much with grinding jigs. I will b e doing a video on my belt grinders in the next few days.

@kengamble8595 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, didn't you mention once about being at like 6000 foot elevation, that's pretty warm and pretty early isn't it ? I'm in southern Arizona, so it's not new for me, allthough we've already been above 107 ! 🔥 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

That was 100 in the shop with the forge going. It was about 80 outside which is still warm for mid May

@kengamble8595 6 жыл бұрын

Black Bear Forge OK, that dose make a difference, and sounds a lot better too ! 😊

@shortfuse43 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a little late to this dance, but when I forge something on my log stump, I liberally soak the end grain with water to keep it from burning and smoking as much (and it doesn't burn the shape out of whack). I may cool the steel a little but ya just have to work quickly!!

@shortfuse43 5 жыл бұрын

My bad, I missed the part where you said to wet the log........duh, senior moment. sorry!!!!

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

the truth is that I usually forget

@GibClark 6 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@tommywright7196 5 жыл бұрын

That's a link out of a watch chain

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Thats a big watch

@MatthewBuntyn 6 жыл бұрын

I'm on the fence when it comes to livestreams. They will be easier for you to do, when compared to a normal video, but your channel engagement might suffer. It's one thing to catch it live, but I rarely watch a recorded stream

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

Good points

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

Good tips mate, and bears gee don't know if I could handle that. I suppose you're used to it.

@jimhumphrey 6 жыл бұрын

Black bears are OK now a Griz would be a bear of a different color :)

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

The black bear can still go ya can't he, the grizzly he would be so scary.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

The bears don't cause any real trouble for us. As long as you don't tempt them with trash left out or food where they can get at it. Although they do break lots of branches in our poor apple tree every year.

@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah you'd have to keep food temptations from them. I suppose there's nothing you can do about the trees.

@chrisjones6002 6 жыл бұрын

I was given a similar big piece of chain link like that, it's about half the size of yours. I was wondering what to do with it and now I think I'll just keep it around just in case I need to beat something on it. Thanks.

@chrisjones6002 6 жыл бұрын

I'm still planning on getting a proper swage block of course and I'll keep an eye out for some of the other ideas too.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

Its a good excuse for collecting "useful stuff"

@MrDukaman 4 жыл бұрын

Hey bud just looking at some older videos. Did you ever consider doing a live stream. I’m thinking you may do well considering the super chats. Most people do give a good amount. Just a thought ok. Thx again. .....Paul.

@BlackBearForge 4 жыл бұрын

The big issue with a live stream is lack of internet in the shop and I doubt its worth the trouble to set up.

@inthewoodsidpanhandle1716 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be a fan of live steaming, like you I don't have enough bandwidth to support it, too much buffering. Besides I think your videos are really instructive and pick up many techniques from watching you work. I was hoping you would address establishing the initial shapes shapes in the log. Keep up the good work! Michael Evans

@BlackBearForge 4 жыл бұрын

The shapes can be carved, burned or just worn in over time.

@inthewoodsidpanhandle1716 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, after watching the video again I realized you talked about carving the shapes .

@fleastomper 6 жыл бұрын

I would be up for the idea of a livestream as long as it was scheduled out far enough in advance so that I could plan on attending. Too often streams are announced last minute or are advocating kind of things, and that makes me go insane. But I don’t see the need for doing them too often. How far is your shop from the house? Shouldn’t be too difficult to fix the whole no internet in the shop thing.

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

The shop is about 300 feet. I have tried some basic range extenders with poor results. Some day I will invest in something better, but even then there will be speed lost going through whatever system there is.

@fleastomper 6 жыл бұрын

Have you tried actually dropping an etheret cable that runs from your wireless router between your office and shop? you can spade a line 6 inches down or so between the two buildings and then push the cable down the gap, then closing the line by tamping or spading off to the side and using the spade like a lever to close the gap. Or you can bury some pvc and fish the cable through. Then you can put a new wireless router in the shop and set it up so it forwards packets through the original router. Depending on how you set it up and the routers you use, you can get gigabit throughput between any computers or devices that are wired in, and regular wireless speeds for everything else. the actual cost of the hardware and such should be well under 300, maybe under 200, depending on what you already have. The labor is what will get you - maybe recruit a fan who knows networking - the actual technical work should take under an hour, two at the absolute most. I'd take care of it for you, but I'm in another state, mentally and physically ;)

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

I have heard that my 300' run would be to far for an ethernet cable. But I could run one on the ground just to try out.

@fleastomper 6 жыл бұрын

100M is the effective standard maximum length before signal attenuation gets ito play. If you are right at 300ft, you should be able to get a full length between two routers, if you minimize the impact of outside influences, like motors, generators and other high EMF devices that could interfere with an unshielded cable (or you could spend $ to buy shielded).

@BlackBearForge 6 жыл бұрын

There is actually a fiber optic with phone wire cable between the house and shop. But I have no idea how I would use the fiber optic. The local phone company provided it when I buried the electrical run. But they are still in the process of bring the system up to fiber optics, so it isn't doing anything at the moment.