Swathing Problems... 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Mike Mitchell

Mike Mitchell

Жыл бұрын

Well, we have ran into a few hiccups with some wiring issues and getting the swath of canola out the hole. This is just "one of those days" type of day.
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@jefflee5047
@jefflee5047 Жыл бұрын
‘Mike and the Mechanics’. Applies to a very successful Rock group back in the 80’s/90’s too. 😊
@maudepotvin8660
@maudepotvin8660 Жыл бұрын
You could cap the cylinder oil port (with metal cap) if it's the cylinder, the wheel will still go down. If it stay up, it's the circuit. Could be the splitter valve or the stack valve.
@glennwagner5627
@glennwagner5627 Жыл бұрын
Cut a piece of C channel iron the length of the cylinder stroke and put it over the rod so it acts like a safety latch and it will hold that side at the exact height you want it to stay at
@totsdaniel8695
@totsdaniel8695 Жыл бұрын
For a temporary fix yes
@hammerslammer3006
@hammerslammer3006 Жыл бұрын
Yes! What I was thinking.. or actual fancy cylinder stops..
@audhen1
@audhen1 Жыл бұрын
this is why I am thankful for every farmer. dedication, whatever might come.
@jakematula5552
@jakematula5552 Жыл бұрын
In Northern Alberta we have the same issue with canola not wanting to fit in the hole. Our swather also decided to throw a rod so we were on a swather hunt To. Which posed some great difficulty to find one we wanted but we did find a m105 macdon with 30ft head which is to big for us but we ended up only using 23ft of it and hanging 7ft out and swaths dried up beautifully. One of our combines is a 9500 so it still handled it great. Made it easier to ram in the hole and easier on combines. Maybe worth a try to only take a smaller bite.
@jjolynyk1232
@jjolynyk1232 Жыл бұрын
We straight cut all our canola. Usually spray a couple thousand of it. While we chew on that it gives the rest time to come in naturally. Did some side by side tests straight cut always had bigger yield and seed size.
@georgederstine263
@georgederstine263 Жыл бұрын
I feel you .I worked with one this summer .it gave us a lot of grief 🤐
@bartoski-ag
@bartoski-ag Жыл бұрын
8:15 in europe we have the cat test, if you throw a cat onto your canola and it doesnt fall through and it can walk on top of it that means its a good crop haha
@PR1NC3
@PR1NC3 Жыл бұрын
Who needs labs when you have cats
@crandonborth
@crandonborth Жыл бұрын
What if it’s an obese American cat...
@WheissRS
@WheissRS Жыл бұрын
@@crandonborth well, if it stands it's a really really good crop hahaha
@bene5431
@bene5431 Жыл бұрын
@@PR1NC3 Well if the cat can walk you do the same test with a labrador
@landlifem5872
@landlifem5872 Жыл бұрын
A lot of swathers here in AUS have 25 of 30 foot fronts, they are much better for getting the windrow neat and through the middle
@fredericdelage1542
@fredericdelage1542 Жыл бұрын
Magnifique vidéo et la moissonneuse et bien équipés
@zzzubmno2755
@zzzubmno2755 Жыл бұрын
I will cross my fingers on both hands and hope things go smoother from now on. Stay positive, things always work out. Best of luck, from north eastern Ontario.
@kiwifruit2022
@kiwifruit2022 Жыл бұрын
Just let your tyre down on the high side and pump it up on the low Mike lol love your vids
@johnsanders2798
@johnsanders2798 Жыл бұрын
I hope you managed to fix your swather.... I would wager that your accumulator on that side was low of nitrogen. We have D450's as well and don't really put that many hours on them anymore. We have kept them because mechanically wise they are pretty much indestructible. We have done some modifications on the heads to make them more canola ready.. We took the swather decks out and made them shorter on the hole side. You can do this by removing a section close to the roller and then welding it back together and then shortening the canvas accordingly. (the canvasses have to be driven on the outside to do this) We added an extra spring to the tensioner and now our canvasses never slip. We put open top guards on and now down canola in sprayer tracks doesn't bother us anymore. We added a pea auger that is lower on the outside edges and higher in the middle. The swather works fantastic now except for the fact that it doesn't flex well through waterways. (that cannot be modified )
@cadcad4974
@cadcad4974 Жыл бұрын
Straight cutting is no longer merely an option for harvesting canola - it’s become “the” harvest option. In many cases, the one-pass alternative has replaced swathing completely. “The advent of pod shatter-tolerant genetics has made straight cutting canola much more attractive than it is to swath. By and large, farmers are defaulting to straight cutting. In fact, it’s likely over 70 percent of producers in Manitoba do it already, and that number is expected to rise.”
@Stasiek_Zabojca
@Stasiek_Zabojca Жыл бұрын
I never really saw swathing canola here in middle Europe.
@jonludens4180
@jonludens4180 Жыл бұрын
Mike, Maude Potvin is right; cap the ports to see if it's the cylinder or the circuit. If it's the circuit, you could cap the ports on the cylinder at the correct height and just run it locked. If it's a new head, maybe you need to bleed the air out of the hydraulic system to that cylinder.
@teenagefarmer
@teenagefarmer Жыл бұрын
keep up the good work.
@westfallfarms7410
@westfallfarms7410 Жыл бұрын
Buy a Macdon swather with stub guards and put the rotating cutters on the ends of the header. You will cut any canola with zero piles.
@leddielive
@leddielive Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, how about Ashtyn using her father's swather (if its available) while you spend a day at home with Chapel? To be honest you look shattered & could do with the rest & I suspect Ashtyn would be only to happy to take the strain & enjoy a day or two farming. That's what makes a great team & successful marriage Mike, you'll feel so much better for some home time with your son. Anyways, just thought I'd mention it, sometimes the obvious solutions are the hardest to see. Looking forward to your next video already. 😍🇬🇧
@donaldtriumph1682
@donaldtriumph1682 Жыл бұрын
Don’t talk shite mark. Crack on and get the job done. Lots of time for rest when your dead ☠️ love from the uk 🇬🇧 😂
@Drew-in-NoDak
@Drew-in-NoDak Жыл бұрын
kinda interesting swather, 70series combine cab with a new corner post display.
@frankg5466
@frankg5466 Жыл бұрын
Cylender spacers or depth setters would be handy, stop the cylender at 12" height.
@dmk1529
@dmk1529 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and a quick, cheap fix.
@rickk6447
@rickk6447 Жыл бұрын
Mike, that pin is to far out, you can see where it's supposed to be and without that pin in the cylinder pushes to far in. put that puppy in and it'll work!
@davidwilson1107
@davidwilson1107 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's a lame cylinder.
@dustinholden5201
@dustinholden5201 Жыл бұрын
Stop collars on the cylinder rod. Love your videos!
@palcolandcattle4259
@palcolandcattle4259 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a JD W235 with a disc mower 500r on it. The right hand cylinder or accumulator seems to have an issue because I have to keep turning up the pressure on it every 15 minutes or so...It does seem like they've made it easier to adjust the float on the W235 compared to the d450. The cab is really quiet in the W235 as well. It seems like a well built machine. Much better than the MacDon M205 I have.
@kopenhagenkid
@kopenhagenkid Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike
@robward7662
@robward7662 Жыл бұрын
There must be a nitrogen accumulator in that float system that is playing up , or a valve that is bypass the the float and dumping, haven’t worked on those ones but they are not normally difficult to sort.
@bobwest2807
@bobwest2807 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. Have you not got a manual tilt on the header. It may be more difficult to operate but you could keep going.
@michaelschreiner95
@michaelschreiner95 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad cylinder leaking down, hope you got whatever it is figured out.
@BaileyFarming
@BaileyFarming Жыл бұрын
Our d450 had a pressure transducer on one side of the header that was bad. It couldn’t give a code for it for some reason so it took awhile to find it. It was acting like yours is tho when it happened. Hope that help. Thanks for the content
@leddielive
@leddielive Жыл бұрын
Your diagnosis is probably the best I've read so far, so thanks for the input. I tend to find people that have had & solved similar problems are generally the best ones to listen to. 👍🇬🇧
@BaileyFarming
@BaileyFarming Жыл бұрын
Yeah the bad transducer was making the potentiometer values out of range for one of the wheels I believe and that’s why it wouldn’t calibrate
@johnmitchell8095
@johnmitchell8095 Жыл бұрын
Still like all your videos!! Here in NC
@owenedwards8713
@owenedwards8713 Жыл бұрын
Swath it the low spots will not dry out. We farm by Raymore Sask and if we had a nice swather like you we would’ve swathed it. And we even sprayed it and it still wouldn’t dry down
@georgedavidson1221
@georgedavidson1221 Жыл бұрын
It is the wheel cylinder on the left side
@MarvUSA
@MarvUSA Жыл бұрын
Have Ashtyn run the swather and you stand on the high end and hold it down. Simple solution.
@jasonclark3127
@jasonclark3127 Жыл бұрын
On our case swather it does the same there are pressure numbers for float on each side go on you screen find header float the adjust it for each side make them even like one mite be 950 the other will be 1200 that will cause that. Our case does that I like it for cutting hay on pivot tracks I can raise on side up to ride over them while the other side stays down if it was the old way I cut it high on both sides.
@davezalinko1354
@davezalinko1354 Жыл бұрын
If I were you I would go buy a new one. 😂. That would solve all issues. We have all been there when it’s time to get something done and a breakdown happens. Murphy’s law! Looks like you had a good yr up north. You must be close to finishing by now?
@RR-vs7fq
@RR-vs7fq Жыл бұрын
Trade it in for Macdon. A real swather.
@francescoviale4683
@francescoviale4683 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mike 🤦‍♂️🤞🇮🇹
@realslickfast
@realslickfast Жыл бұрын
Btw Mike, idk if the thumbnail was edited or not but it looked great 👌
@jaywilliams2139
@jaywilliams2139 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think there is to much technology in this equipment
@calebdale595
@calebdale595 Жыл бұрын
It could be because it's had a mower on with one side of the mower being heavier so it's calibrated to push more pressure to one side.
@Rx37Legacy
@Rx37Legacy Жыл бұрын
A piece of wood and a ratchet strap wedged in beside the cylinder would temporarily fix the problem.
@davidthorne2129
@davidthorne2129 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the piston seal gone. Take the ram of and replace seals. Won’t take to long if you can get a seal kit
@gavinperry7237
@gavinperry7237 Жыл бұрын
Header height issues are following you from one piece of equipment to another. Need some "Sky Hooks" to hold the low end up 😂🤣
@rickk6447
@rickk6447 Жыл бұрын
Mike look into the heads they use for Rice combining, they're a blue colored head that just takes off the tops of the rice plants and leaves the stalks.
@egomania2792
@egomania2792 Жыл бұрын
Those wouldn't do well in canola I don't think. Especially if you mean he should look into them for swathing.
@rickk6447
@rickk6447 Жыл бұрын
@@egomania2792 no, this only takes the top off the stem!
@egomania2792
@egomania2792 Жыл бұрын
@@rickk6447 my man, have you seen Canola? There is no one stem, that shit looks like a tree. Your suggestion wouldn't work. It would leave TONS UPON TONS of canola seeds on the ground. Also, canola is a bjtch to combine in the first place, because while the seef pods are very fragile, the plant itself is very stringy. Your header idea simply. WOULDN'T. WORK.
@darrylpaulhus3069
@darrylpaulhus3069 Жыл бұрын
Stripper fronts do not work on canola
@Sicktrickintuner
@Sicktrickintuner Жыл бұрын
Have you tried to sleeve that side with some wood and zip ties? Might work as a temp fix
@michaelthompson4498
@michaelthompson4498 Жыл бұрын
Try the old snap on cylinder stops
@donaldtriumph1682
@donaldtriumph1682 Жыл бұрын
Bought yourself a pup there Mike.😮
@barneyshort8227
@barneyshort8227 Жыл бұрын
Do a internal leak test on that cylinder!!!
@rickk6447
@rickk6447 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, go to 7:50 into your video, your talking about the L cylinder, is it me or does it look like the pin is out? If that's supposed to be pushed all the way in, that could be why it's hanging low on the left side! It almost looks like it's about ready to fall out. I pinned two pics for ya
@geoffrethus5742
@geoffrethus5742 Жыл бұрын
There is a sequence to level hydraulically. Do ours regularly, talk yo dealer or maybe manual.
@lafermedu14etlagriculteurs29
@lafermedu14etlagriculteurs29 Жыл бұрын
our plow had a leaking cylinder. we had to take the adjustable tie rod, to continue working while repairing.
@Freefarmer533
@Freefarmer533 Жыл бұрын
We had same header on a 9870sts and was doing same thing, turned out the accumulator needed charged.
@mikemitchell2554
@mikemitchell2554 Жыл бұрын
That's been done already 👍but didn't fix it
@moekissel8840
@moekissel8840 Жыл бұрын
Mike I know EVERY farm is different we are 6 hours north of your north farm we harvest 2000ac of canola every year. I’ve never dessicated an acre in my life and never owned a swather and we always finish b4 everyone else #selltheswather #biggeryields #lessheadache #moremoneyinyourjeans 😜
@itz_lexiii_
@itz_lexiii_ Жыл бұрын
As much as I wanna joke about it being a JD I'm sure any color paint could have a wiring issue. Best of luck
@schwurblerfresser2621
@schwurblerfresser2621 Жыл бұрын
Catch you on the dry side Mike 🤣
@jakematula5552
@jakematula5552 Жыл бұрын
Also the swather heads will float should the wheels be rigid. If you were to block the ram from collapsing and use header height resume instead of flex? Rough it to get through the year and once it's all cut have a better look at it to get it fixed
@farmshoffman8475
@farmshoffman8475 Жыл бұрын
Not good mike , great awesome video mike
@kevingamoe9375
@kevingamoe9375 Жыл бұрын
You’ll notice the difference when that canola goes through the combine , cut in rain vs dry , the stuff knocked down in the rain will flow through the combine like nothing
@wallyyuriy8912
@wallyyuriy8912 Жыл бұрын
Let the air out of right tire 😂😂😂😂
@FourCloverDairy
@FourCloverDairy Жыл бұрын
Just put the left-hand cylinder on the right side and right-hand side on the left......😎 Might solve the problem
@windmillfarms2845
@windmillfarms2845 Жыл бұрын
beautiful machine despite your issues. No trouble with the swath drying all the way through?
@TheoSmith249
@TheoSmith249 Жыл бұрын
That’s a contradiction
@Hofe1997
@Hofe1997 Жыл бұрын
i think the middle of the Zylinder is defect. Do you found the problem or what do you do now?
@MrJuniorLaws
@MrJuniorLaws Жыл бұрын
I'd say replace both cylinders that goes to those wheels and that's 50% fixed and the sensor could be the other 50%
@aarickomlid5993
@aarickomlid5993 Жыл бұрын
Could you use cylinder stops
@lewjones7272
@lewjones7272 Жыл бұрын
I always learn from Mike’s-- mr Jones
@puirYorick
@puirYorick Жыл бұрын
You need to buy yourself a brand new combine, Mike. Maybe get two of them.🤣😇
@recklessbehaviour01
@recklessbehaviour01 Жыл бұрын
Morning
@jasononago5097
@jasononago5097 Жыл бұрын
Just throw some ram stops on it to the height you need. And drive carefully!
@nickjones6747
@nickjones6747 Жыл бұрын
Mike is actually the third McKenzi brother. He is in the witness protection program,Eh!! Cracks me up every time, Eh. Nothing ever works when you try and do it in the rain,Eh.
@nikphoenix
@nikphoenix Жыл бұрын
I bet Ashtyn was saying you should have bought a Case swather. 🤣
@chadkubashek4622
@chadkubashek4622 Жыл бұрын
Lol only one step worse then the swather he is in and that’s is the CNH swather.
@shaker8984
@shaker8984 Жыл бұрын
I hear you use metric and imperial system pretty much 50/50. What do you think is easier to use? Personally I think metric is 100 times easier.
@jameshattenbach5578
@jameshattenbach5578 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a blown packing in the cylinder either get a packing kit or new cylinder
@majortimekiller
@majortimekiller Жыл бұрын
whats the spool used for?
@kennardjohnson7875
@kennardjohnson7875 Жыл бұрын
Remove the hydraulic cylinders and category 1 tractor center links and adjust to hight but your two weeks behind
@pervasivemalaise
@pervasivemalaise Жыл бұрын
are the cylinders the same for both sides? if they are different see if they are on the proper sides. the left side carries more weight.
@fredpitts9382
@fredpitts9382 Жыл бұрын
Flip the hose with the one that works
@adhuronhoti308
@adhuronhoti308 Жыл бұрын
How yeild is gonna look in canola
@flemmingnielsen5989
@flemmingnielsen5989 Жыл бұрын
Should have got a swather with a honeybee header on it or get a Mac Deere swather 😊
@oliver-ec9mv
@oliver-ec9mv Жыл бұрын
Let all the air out of the tires on the header high side this is how you level a header on the John Deere
@michellewipf3961
@michellewipf3961 Жыл бұрын
Mike i have a question, what does swathing the green patches do to it Maturity wise?
@LukasSmit
@LukasSmit Жыл бұрын
Did you try turn it off and on again? 😉
@mikemitchell2554
@mikemitchell2554 Жыл бұрын
And I tried rice 😆
@Phillelias
@Phillelias Жыл бұрын
Hole size not adjustable? Mac Don's used to be able to adjust each table. Perhaps the JD's hole is a wide as she goes?
@dennislamers986
@dennislamers986 Жыл бұрын
Shad Potter is Harry Potters uncle right? Gotta be frustrating to have issues on newer equipment.
@kevinm6821
@kevinm6821 Жыл бұрын
Please Mike … pick those wheels up move the reel forward 12 to 18 in ,,,you’ll de doing 10 mph,,
@thomasklein6954
@thomasklein6954 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the problem isn't the side hanging low but the other side is hanging high. Just saying. Good luck
@tomasztomasz5202
@tomasztomasz5202 Жыл бұрын
maybe corn or grass for seed U nead 20 JD for one weekend to harvest all
@simoncloutier1769
@simoncloutier1769 Жыл бұрын
Finished straight cutting our canola crop today our farms been swathing canola for the last 25 years not about to swath anymore straight cut is very nice
@mikemitchell2554
@mikemitchell2554 Жыл бұрын
Yes I like straight cutting too 🙂
@simoncloutier1769
@simoncloutier1769 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemitchell2554 looking forward to see that x9 munch down some 50 bu canola 😎
@clifforddavidson6778
@clifforddavidson6778 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you may have air in the hydraulic lines.
@shiestytrey6897
@shiestytrey6897 Жыл бұрын
Nvm. His video jus answered my question
@robertfranssen
@robertfranssen Жыл бұрын
Maybe stupid question but why not use 75 % of the width of your swather. Less crop feeds better
@mikemitchell2554
@mikemitchell2554 Жыл бұрын
I actually tried that but didn't prevail due to the head taking too much straw on the one side.
@rudgerhotsma
@rudgerhotsma Жыл бұрын
Can I just ask a question? Why don’t you use your tractor mounted swather you had on the 720 in the farm tour video?
@blakekucher6020
@blakekucher6020 Жыл бұрын
It won't fit underneath
@rudgerhotsma
@rudgerhotsma Жыл бұрын
@@blakekucher6020 won’t fit under what?
@tjakko4659
@tjakko4659 Жыл бұрын
@@rudgerhotsma underneath the tractor, but maybe if the windrow is next to the tractor
@crandonborth
@crandonborth Жыл бұрын
@@blakekucher6020 Please tell more joking... like a 30’ swather under the tractor. 😂😂
@rudgerhotsma
@rudgerhotsma Жыл бұрын
@@tjakko4659 it goes next to the tractor, it’s that honey bee he had in the farm tour video
@brucewalker2276
@brucewalker2276 Жыл бұрын
Ivor McGill is a custom swathing guy. Just a thought.
@samhill19
@samhill19 Жыл бұрын
You should demo a macdon swather
@chadkubashek4622
@chadkubashek4622 Жыл бұрын
He did last yr and those will cut circles around any other swather!
@andrewabbe2347
@andrewabbe2347 Жыл бұрын
Could you have just put those removable collars on the ram?
@jmigoyo321
@jmigoyo321 Жыл бұрын
why swath and then pickup vs combining? (not a farmer, just a fan)
@daveevans2710
@daveevans2710 Жыл бұрын
It gives the seeds an opportunity to dry.
@kevinmeyer3884
@kevinmeyer3884 Жыл бұрын
As he explained there are pockets of green Canola mixed throughout the field and they will make the sample too wet and cause it to rot in the bin! It must be dried down somehow before combining! Either by desacation or swathing!
@MrTonyharrell
@MrTonyharrell Жыл бұрын
It’s caused by gravitational force from Uranus. 😂😂😂
@hazzawoithe
@hazzawoithe Жыл бұрын
Why don’t right it off?
@firstamendmenttshirt4768
@firstamendmenttshirt4768 Жыл бұрын
LMAO roll with the punches from crap Deere.
@kenhofer8063
@kenhofer8063 Жыл бұрын
I suppose all the other makes are trouble free
@firstamendmenttshirt4768
@firstamendmenttshirt4768 Жыл бұрын
@@kenhofer8063 I suppose if you had a Deere you would feel special. Gleaner can be fixed Deere you will be waiting to fix because you need bolts an oh you can just lose bolts that you payed for an cost you 800,000.00. Good job Deere, Be proud. LMAO, only a farmer would spend that much on crap. You need a 🔩 Lol.
@blackheart30518
@blackheart30518 Жыл бұрын
Ok mike sounds like to me either you have a bad hydraulic cylinder or what ever controls the pressure to that cylinder. I’m not familiar with swathers but I’d bet it’s one of the two
@kerwinhege7416
@kerwinhege7416 Жыл бұрын
Cylinder leaking internally maybe.
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