I do agree that Ray is getting older. However I´ve been following Ray for more than 20 years now, he is and has been spot on the trends of computation. He is a brilliant mind that deservers so much more recognition and his work needs to be studied in more detail.

I don't know if I'd call it antagonistic. I think it might come off that way given the stark difference in their speaking styles, not to mention the fact that Ray's mic was too low, but there were some good questions in there. I have tremendous respect for Ray, but he tends to follow the same talking points every time he's interviewed, and the MC was doing a decent job of shaking that up, misinterpreted answers notwithstanding. At any rate, I'm looking forward to the new book, which I'm hoping will have some new insights.

Poor audio

agi can “emulate any human being” - any individual or all humans? u don’t want to be michael jordan playing baseball

AMEN to what you said.

Oh so a journalist. Typical.

Don't you think we should be rather aggressive towards questioning the greatest minds? Isn't that how they became so insightful in the first place - but aggressively pursuing questions. I personally appreciated Nick's style. We need more journalists like him.

Rogan interview was a dumpster fire

@@mitchmaceachern1539 Mitch don’t know what you were listening to but this this interviewers questions were simplistic and uninformed. Very arrogant.

Lamestream media. Shoulda hired a podcaster.

Maybe so but Ray insists on wearing obvious ugly wigs

I love Ray but idk how great his mind is now. :/ Kinda scary to see him as an old man. It's like he got 20 years older in five years. His 200 pills per day notwithstanding.

he said some pretty dumb things too..... promoting the moderna vaccine that's crap... Elon Musk would s*** on him Cure mental disease oh that's all about lifestyle mate not about f****** medication,.... Apparently poverty is down by 50% over the past 20 years but looking at the statistics of how many people overdosed on drugs and died in the past 5 years don't want to call that poverty? Ray's living in some sort of fantasy world his life is fantastic And the medical bills are bankrupting hundreds of thousands of Americans every year..... you think some medical system is operating benevolently without without a profit motive but of course ray a multi millionaire he doesn't feel the pain and suffering 1% of Americans are in prison i those who are locked up and have no freedom has doubled over the past 20 years but everything's fantastic life is improving as we get rich what kind of fantasy world is he living in And Julian Assange who revealed the truth was on the verge of assassination by the CIA are the list of problems just goes on and on and on you think life is getting better come on

Looks to me he just asked him some questions. Maybe with a degree of incredulity, but that's not a sign of disrespect. He did say his book is remarkable. High praise

@@habatone yeah I was pretty disgusted the way he was praising moderna vaccine

Agree. Really disappointed with the audio on this talk throughout. They could have done more to make sure Ray's level was more balanced with the moderator. Ray, as brilliant as he is, tends to go in circles in several places - repeating the same phrases on different questions and doesn't answer many questions directly.

Actually I thought he was fine. His style just didn't match Ray's that well.

I actually liked the interviewer. Kinda funny

plus the tickets to view that event are like $1.5k... how were they thinking not being able to hear him was ok?

@@joeysipos yea very bizarre that he didn't even try to wait for audio to be fixed. like what's the hurry. only takes a few seconds.

what do you mean actually a good guy? hehe, im just kind of stuck on that as it seems you thought maybe something else before that with the way your comment reads

@@GS-hv9rd I mean he's actually a good guy who cares about regular people whereas those who who put on the show don't give a damn. They were totally willing to screw over the audience.

Ray is in mental decline ..

I am not surprise, best mind works on AI, they are not sound engineer

yeah. when the adverts came on it almost deafened me!

Well the fact that I as a trans woman can't take a shit in a woman's only shower in 2024 should tell you all you need to know.

Post singularity, all audio will be balanced.

Hm.....I wonder if there's AI that specialized in amplifying...I mean we got audio-to-text that clearly capture his voices and it is in the text..then just need AI agent that already have his modularity voice to produce then start generating it but of course, would try and match his lips...Then bam, we got no issues with low voice or audio issues. KZfaq should and might will in the future are going to have that check-marked to "Auto-fix low-voice audio". OR....I guess download the video then pipe it in existing project that will do that job in amplifying it. Then reupload it.

But it won’t be you. It will be your emulation, your copy. It’s like creating a statue that looks completely like you but you don’t experience life through this copy. You still cease to exist in case your physical body dies.

@@andrewrozhen513 You're more than your physical body. When your body dies, your consciousness continues in some form. Therefore, you don't cease to exist when your body dies.

@@suncat9 Put the DMT down man, lol! What the other guy said is true though. What you’re saying is entirely speculative and has zero hard evidence to suggest is even true. But say it is, whose to say we can “capture” that disembodied consciousness, to begin with? Let alone, then put this “non-material” consciousness that we somehow captured with material means and then faithfully integrate it into a machine? I mean that’s functionally the only way one could “bring a conscious mind back to life” using future technological means. Otherwise, what you are describing is also called ghosts lol

​@@cadenelson891 It will be either hard copy of neural architecture into materials or the best way is to just simulate hundred billion neurons perfectly...and sensory organs... Wait no, initially even a little change would be suffering disaster...have to simulate the body perfectly...so we need nothing just enormously more computational efficiency or just intelligence burst

How will you experience anything at all if a digital copy of your brain is made? You aren’t your brain, you exist independent of a body. Ray is brilliant and many of the minds exploring AI are brilliant, but they are missing the most vital factor. Consciousness and the mind are not the same as the brain. A body part is not consciousness. I imagine a future where someone dies and an android is created to replace them. It sounds like, looks like and behaves like the person who died. But it is not the person. It’s a facsimile of the person. It’s a facsimile of love, passion, loyalty, pride, devotion, grief and anger. But it is not these things.

And he seems pretty geriatric for 76. I'm not sure that he's going to make it at this point. As a point of comparison, Chomsky remained razor-sharp all through his 80s and only started to slow down noticeably in his 90s.

@@freddychopin I agree, Kurzweil's apparent decline over the past decade or so has been midly shocking. Especially when you consider he has access to the best health care on the planet and is laser focused on his own longevity. But I gess we all age a little differently.

@@saturdaysequalsyouth he unfortunately takes many dozens of supplements. As someone who's dabbled in biohacking for many years, it's all too easy to fuck yourself up by taking a bunch of substances without it being possible to have any idea exactly what they'll do to you in the long term. Dave Asprey, biohacker extraordinaire, is another great example: on the face of things, he's been on the cutting edge of biohacking and longevity for the past two decades. But the guy's a trainwreck, he looks like he's aged 40 years in those 20 years.

@@freddychopin I'm not convinced it's worth it at this piont. We just don't know how to do this properly yet and experiementing will all sorts of cocktails doesn't really work. If anyone asks me I just say stick to the fundamentals: eat well, sleep well, exercise well, and see trained professionals regularly.

@@saturdaysequalsyouth that's pretty much where I've settled. I take the supplement trifecta every day: omega 3, vitamin D, and magnesium. Everything else I take in moderation, and it's virtually all nutraceuticals. Lifestyle will do more for you than any supplement ever possibly could.

I wish more people understood this. But in the scfi book, "Old Man's War" they could transfer the soul (whatever that is) from one body to another newer one. I imagine AI finding out how the consciousness connects to the body and how it is formed and then be able to move it. I don't see this level of technology for a few years though.

I believe that some people would be interested in mere simulacrum as a means of carrying their unique skills and tastes forward into future generations. It's a kind of immortality that we don't get from procreation because our children are unique individuals. It could also be appealing to people who believe their unique skills or instincts could benefit their descendants.

The subjective experience of being alive ends every night when we go to sleep. Are you afraid of falling asleep?

@@wessel5799 😂 true

The twin will have the same subjective expérience otherwise its not a real twin. Its will be like if you awake inside of à computer instead of your bed

Yeah, I was kind of surprised he kept trying to force Ray to start anyway. Like I get these things happen live, sometimes there isn't a whole lot you can do, and nerves really kick in situations like this, but there was no reason he should've basically said "well screw all of you, I'm gonna start anyway. Go watch on KZfaq. You came here for no reason."

What a dil do. Seriously.

Arrogant left wing The Atlantic puppet. Ray should choose how he spend his invaluable time

...and dude, comb your hair

Yea. That was pretty bad. May be the interviewer would very much benefit from the future AGI machines to assist him with and give him a clue about how to best communicate and interact with people.

interview is shocking, and no disrespect to Kurzweil but his answers and thoughts didn't give me confidence that he's a current authority on AI right now. For example he talks about smartphones being slow but doesn't give the benefits of instant access to knowledge without even having to bridge a divide, he failed to communicate that knowledge will be automatic, just like memories are. This way you can develop more connections between different fields to have better insight and original thoughts.

He wasn’t that bad, if you’re looking for painful try watching him on the Joe rogan podcast… in fact I suggest you don’t watch it as it’s not really a proper interview, more a diatribe on the future from JR

Long live Kurzweil

It might just be me but I find his hand gestures particularly annoying. They're not designed to communicate, but assert. Not a good vibe. Came to the comments to see if other people were irritated by him.

@@rpbmpn yeah its not like hes horrible or anything but there were many small things that made me say "oof"

Yeah, if you put him in a rocking chair, in a rest home. I was shocked to see he is just slightly younger than me, he looks far older than he is. I took him for somewhere in his eighties. If he makes it to 2029 I'd be surprised.

right? its still one of the highlights in my life whenever I ask someone if they've heard of them and I get to introduce them to him and h is over 10 year old documentary the transcendent man. The things he talks about are mind blowing then and even now but more visible. I cant wait till we have foglets and smart dust

why? seriously, what is so great about this guy?

This is the new Tower of Babel.

Maybe one where he attaches a lot of balloons to his house and floats off into the sunset?

Intelligence and consciousness are not remotely the same thing but I get your point.

Don't tell me L. Ron Hubbard was right about tomatoes screaming. Lol

@@Dogbertforpresident Only the big fat Italian varieties, the rest are fairly circumspect.

You're mostly reacting to his body language. He's seated forward, while Ray is relaxed and leaning back.

100% this

The contrived hand gestures and self-importance are incredibly off-putting.

@@andybaldman you'd do better to learn from the OP rather than trying to correct him, his comment is more insightful than your rebuttal

@@andybaldman You could read a script of this without any visual or auditory cues and still see his contrived manner of phrasing questions, or his mildly condescending jokes or dismissing what ray is saying, and then there is is tone of voice, hand gestures, and facial expressions. Even in the very beginning with the audio issues... he didnt care care that ray couldnt be heard, his first thought was just to push on itll be fine. Its not anywhere near just him leaning forward, thats absurd.

I'm listening on my phone on less than half volume and I can hear Ray perfectly well.

My Samsung is just above half and its coming across loud and clear, I guess nothing except taxes are universal

If your brain is just a computer, and thoughts, and subsequent actions just "arise", why do you ever act irrationally?

@@dieselphiend garbage in garbage out. Same with AI, if your data is not clean, AI will act irrationally. But free will is not the action of the brain, but the action of the consciousness passing through the filter of instincts and emotions. I compare the brain as the computer of an autonomous car, you (the passenger) tells the car where to go, the car will bring you there.

​@@phvaessen I think 'free' will is just our ability to form a subjective translation of reality. It's simply not 'free' because it itself is a product of limitation. It doesn't make sense to blame the very things our will is dependent upon as the things that negate it. I mean, do you think the universe is just being read from some sort of media, like a compact disc? Or is it actually processing stuff? What more could you ask for than to be able to predict the future and build out reality with your perception? How could our will possibly be free? 'Free' is an absolute, and absolutes simply don't exist. Everything that exists is subject to everything that exists. Do not the quantum processes in your brain and within reality itself guarantee a measure of randomness? I believe that only our destination is 'determined'. How we get there, and how long it takes is determined by us. Irrationality itself is a kind of randomness. Variance is not an aspect of information but of perspective. Each of us chooses how much time and effort we put into decoding complexity. We are perfectly capable of resisting popular culture and popular narratives, and we are capable of choosing even when we feel totally ambiguous about something.

Still u will have to let go all that money when u die and can be reborn as a pauper. U guys r kids when it comes to knowledge about atma and paramatma. Stuck in maya.

💯 I do concur on the point of consciousness not being a product of the brain - perhaps it’s the other way around- everything is a product of consciousness.

But from where does "need" come from, and what does it mean, ultimately?

@@dieselphiend Oh, this is just such a long insight that he gave us a while back, if you look through his earlier videos you will see him explaining it and all in a better way! Basically the first bridge ends by 2030, second brigde goes from 2030 to 2045, and the third bridge from 2045 to the Singularity!

@@claudioagmfilho It's like planning the destruction of the universe. Reminds me of cult.

@@claudioagmfilho Bom dia! So he visited you in Brazil? Wowsers.

@@truth8422 So sorry, I meant to say US and not Me, thanks tho, for pointing that out...

why do you love him?

he was just dealing with the inevitable fear that comes with topics that are meant to produce cowardice. no blame. very courageous, imo.

@@iarwainthabombadil7724 kokokooookkoooooooooookokoo Ko

I was disgusted by his arrogance and disregard. He thinks everyone was there for him.

Moving from the last 10% of your life to the last 1% is usually pretty dramatic. He is probably at that phase.

@@ChatGPT1111 Maybe 1% is a little exaggerated. That'd be a few months. But yeah, some people do age dramatically within a short period of time.

Ojalá, siga cumpliendo y acertando, John. Aunque muy difícil, esto de la inmortalidad en el cuerpo.

Espero equivocarme, y logré sus pronósticos.

Not everything, but definitely a very high success rate, probably the most successful predictive streak. I'm on board with that AGI and immortality by 2029, even earlier as he starting to think. Many do as well, we just keep speeding up in technological evolution

Never mind. I put another window over the top of the video to block the motion but leave the captions showing.

at least people still get that the interviewer was an ass and the guy may be old and slow like a fossil, not quite up to date anymore when it comes to AI progress, but still deserves some respect considering his age and the possibilities he had to his time/ what he made out of that. gives me some hope.

I think there is a higher probability than we would like to admit that we are living in the closest to Utopia as we will get. Which isn’t saying much. If technological advancement was in a vacuum then I’d say there is a 99.99% chance it will only get better and better at every dimension you mention. But obviously it’s not. Look up the great filter if you don’t already know of it. It’s an explanation for as to why we don’t see evidence galore of ET in the universe. Once a life form gets enough advancement in tech to become interstellar they also, by default, have the advanced enough tech to wipe themselves out in war and conflict, which they inevitably do. Unless AI helps us to become something we are not, as humans, such as help us to not have serious conflict, which may itself prevent a lot of innovation, we may never be around long enough to enjoy the fruit of our labor or AI’s labor, that is.

I agrée.

It's likely not going to be that 'linear'. AGI may be able to show humans how to stop aging altogether at any time after 2030, so we just need to take the set of actions that lead to a higher probability that we will end up there. If one gets their blood work done every year, possibly intermittent fasting if green-lighted by their doctor, meditation, cardio, weight lifting and a diet/supplements that corresponds to what works best for one's body as per their blood type and blood work: This and continues learning about new ideas in the field should yield some of the highest probabilities of getting to the point where one can live "forever".

Look at David Sinclair's work at Harvard which has reversed the age of old mice, then primates. Human age reversal, resetting the entire body to a pre-aged adult level, may come all at once, or in massive leaps like GPT version releases.

@@MikeHodgkinson problems is inner poisoning. we dont just die because of telomeres becoming shorter (genetic death) but because of heavy metals, fat-soluable harmful substances, etc. and while we can regrow and exchange most organs, the brain, the important part, can not be fully copied yet (im confident we will reach that within next 30 years though so there may be hope for me xd (28 years old)

we call that english, yes :"D jokes aside, while most programming languages that are present in majority of fields are english based (which is a good indivator for english becoming the world language), it simultaneously doesent mean much once AI will be able to real-time translate any language into another (including programming languages) so everyone could theoretically speak whatever they want as long as its codified into the AI.

I wouldn't put money on it.

¡Ojalá siga viviendo este gran genio, hasta la fecha!

Muchos ánimos, y mejore mucho su salud.

agreed. multi.planet species is a good next step we should definitely work on, i admire musk for that despite everyone hating the guy xd. also agree with the "multi-modal-model" would at "that is trained on large language data bases for logical reasoning and communication". MMM for LRaC

you dont have a soul. if you ACCURATELY copy all interaction of data that makes you you, it will be YOU. there is that phylosophical question of a ship which gets its blanks replaced you may know that? at which point is it not the same ship anymore? after 50% of blanks have been replaced? 90? 100%? or is it always the same ship as it was before no matter how many times you replace the blanks? in this analogy, the "soul", the individuality of the ship would be the way it gnarks when you walk over that one blank that isnt fitting perfectly, how you can only softly lean against that one reiling because its old and eroded by the sea water, maybe the wood smells like pine because of the resin in the wood that was used for the blanks that were used to build it. so if you build the "same" ship, somewhere else, its isnt the actual same, unless you ACCURATELY scan the ship to every last atom, including the eroded parts, the salt water that has sieved in and dried up, the spaces between the blanks that gnark, the resin within the wood, etc. etc. but if you do that, the ship will do EXACTLY the same as it would have, if you release it into the same environment. the entire world is CAUSAL. so yeah, if we become able to scan the brain in a single state ACCURATELY, we can upload that network data and replicate you. it doesent even have to be the same medium. data is data if its correctly transformed it doesent matter. what matters is that all components used have effectively the same attributes as before and NO information is lost. much of said information lies within relation.

@@kliersheed Well, you could in the same way replace 90% of a person's body yet as long as his brain is still there and not being replaced then his soul still exist (so I tend to believe the soul exist in the brain somewhere and somehow, it's super advanced and complex and unreachable/invisible kind of science of the soul but it exists I think), also, you compare an already soulless inanimate thing (ship) to another and a human being and animals all have souls so a duplicate of a human being 1 to 1 could maybe simulate our souls but there would still be no souls in them unless you actually would also make sure the being's brain is biological. Every one of us can tell that the experience we have in human bodies is definitely being observed by us through our senses and that we are truly aware and have true conciousness, that's the only proof we have and need to know that we are truly concious with souls/spirit or whatever you wanna call it in us that is being able to experience it on such authentic ways, it feels that there is something beyond mere materials to our mind/brain and body which would lack even in a 99.9% real like human like indistiguishable robot which is probably the soul that resides in us.

@@MrRandomPlays_1987 1. so humans souls is in the brain? but your hormones e.g. are also partly produced by your organs, and they regulate many things in your brain. if you only keep the brain, your "soul" would take a hit. 2. if animals olso have a soul ,where do you draw the border? a dog? (i would argue that it is as conscious as a human is), a cat? ca frog? a cokcroach? a bacteria? a virus (that cant even replicate by itself)? plants? whats makes them have or not have a soul? how do you think a worm that doesent have a classic brain or a sunflower makes "decisions" (in case you think- which i would assume- that they dont have a soul). how do they know where to crawl or where to move towards (to be in the sun), how do they decide if they should eat whats in front of them (the worm lol not the sunflower xd)? its simply actio and reactio, evolved over the 3 billion years of live existing. the ones who made the right decisions naturally survived, the weighting of doing that decision has naturally incrteased inside their DNA and thats that. no sould, just causal acting. 3. if there was a soul (that mattered) aka that had ANY influence on us (otherwise it might as well NOT exist). it would have to at some point interact with your brain, which is entirely made of matter. if it would interact, the moment it interacts you would be able to measure it (with whatever it interacts with). being unable to measure it, means it doesent exist.

@@kliersheed 1. I suppose then that the hormones are probably an added thing to our body+brain but its not relating to our souls (maybe indirectly but even then your feelings and experience in regard to hormones are still coming ultimately from your brain so then it still makes sense for our souls to be influenced by it in a way 2. I tend to believe all living things are having souls/spirits but are just on a different level (so their conciousness and soul is a different type of soul, some of them maybe more aware and concious than others but in different ways as well and on different scales of magnitude of awareness), I think that since they are biological then naturally they posses the feature of having a soul to some extent (depending on the creature/organism or lifeform if you will) I'd assume that those with no brains kind of lifeforms are probably having a logic system (working like a brain) on their whole body? I don't know, probably else it does not make sense for them to make decisions but then I still think they might be having a soul in a way but just a drowsy one that is in their whole body or most of it, just a guess. You could also claim that our brain is also a action reaction kind of thing so we don't have souls/spirits/awareness but we do indeed know for certain that our own individual experiences are real, hence that if we have a real awareness then we also have a soul/spirit and so despite the action reaction thing going on in our brains we are still more than just that, more than just neurons interacting with each other, it's something else that exist on top of that, else, we would have no awareness to reflect upon internally, if we were to be souless and without any true awareness then we would have zero reflection felt, it would be basically like a robot's brain, that can only simulate speech and thoughts yet it has zero feelings and zero true awareness, it is a dead material made believe to be alive. 3. I think our souls kind of snap on our brain's (and bodies maybe) and you might be thinking in the right direction that if it exists then it should be somehow be seen by its interactions or whatever it does in relation to our brain material but since we don't yet have figured out not even the slightest of bits of the souls realm science and supernatural science then we can't say for sure if we can measure it using existing devices/instruments or not, I tend to believe that it does exist and maybe one day humans would be able to measure it and even see it ETC but it's just a rather complicated kind of science that is maybe impossble to figure out, maybe using advanced AI in the future it would be possible to figure it out (the AGI/ASI would try to do a thorough research on the topic and who knows what it might be able to do).

were he a competent interviewer and had he asked more relevant questions, I believe we could've gotten much more from Mr. Ray. A shame to say the least

Have you had your ears checked?