Tacx NEO 2 First Look: Unboxing, Tech Details, First Ride, Noise and More!

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Tacx NEO 2 First Look: Unboxing, Tech Details, First Ride, Noise and More!

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Here's your first look at the new Tacx Neo 2 Smart Trainer! It includes improved internals to add in pedal analysis, including left/right balance. As well it's got new electronics which Tacx says they'll add unnamed features based on down the road. In this video I dive into the power and cadence accuracy on my first ride, which is linked up to Zwift for a ride around Watopia. Not to mention I show you the sound/audio/silence aspects, plus a complete unboxing of the Neo 2, including installation of the cassette.
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@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Hey folks - don't forget here's my full post on the NEO 2 as well, including more details on the accuracy side of things: dcra.in/TacxNeo2

@SportsMedTraining 4 жыл бұрын

DC Rainmaker Is overheating a widespread issue with the Tacx Neo 2t? I was planning on ordering one but now I have doubts. Heard of a lot of issues from many people.

@mlegrand 5 жыл бұрын

Making videos isn't as easy as it looks and technology doesn't always cooperate. You're doing a great job. Keep it up and thanks for all of your work!

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm pretty bummed about the audio. Usually I have a backup shotgun mic as well, but forgot that at home with all the construction stuff this week. :(

@mlegrand 5 жыл бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker I use a shotgun mic and no backup. (aka I'm not smart) I do have a lapel mic that I should compare.

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

@@mlegrand Yeah, I love my lav mic when it works (like in the intro), but in this case the cable to my phone apparently got just lose enough to stop recording when I stuck it in my pocket. Happens about once a quarter. My shotgun mic is great, though even in this large warehouse space it would've struggled. Better than on-camera for sure, but not ideal with the echo.

@Enigma_V8 4 жыл бұрын

And yet, bluetooth mics are cheap.

@lookpro.rideslow 4 жыл бұрын

“Makes my life easier when things go smoothly” oh the irony. Thanks for the great content. I’m picking this up over the Wahoo this week.

@jade4805 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Great work as always.

@williamknowles3085 5 жыл бұрын

I'm super happy with my Neo 1. I had to remove the fly wheel and clean the magnets. But beyond that. Quietest trainer I've ever owned.

@CA-gc8me 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. One Neo 2 ordered :) (had Neo 1 but warranty ended so I've sold it and had to buy a new one :))

@valeriachilders 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for such a nice explanation.

@mattcostall5321 5 жыл бұрын

I've purchased a Neo 2 smart trainer based on yours and Shane's reviews. Could have saved a few quid and brought the original Neo but I love new tech and interested to see the data from the pedal smoothness. I ride conventional rings through the winter and Q rings in the summer, should be good to see which i'm more efficient with. Keep up the good work!!

@leoburns9674 4 жыл бұрын

DC appreciate your insights... always a great reference. I have a “2T” arriving next week: 1) do I need an ANT+ antenna to pick up my Garmin heart rate strap? 2) Are you controlling via an apple computer or windows platform (looking for additional input on monitor connections)... appreciate the help!

@cedrichonore8214 3 жыл бұрын

Hi DC, thanks for the review. Am looking forward to taking the Neo 2T and would like to get your views on the longevity of the product. I guess you are using it since a while now. Thanks in advance

@OyvindAakvik 5 жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work! I’ve got one question. Does it pivot on the rear axle? My Neo 1 does not. If it does it could be a good indicator on a possible future release of a Tacx “climb” :) If not I believe this unit could be compared to kicker17 in a year or two when Neo 3 comes which is the one you need for connecting to the Tacx “climb”.

@nadsim154 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the rear derailleur always needs some adjustement when put on the hometrainer to avoid those little cracking sounds.

@SuperYobo 4 жыл бұрын

I live in 4th floor and have very thin floor. The wahoo kickr make alot of vibrations thru the floor, do the Neo vibrate less ? (Yes i have extra Mats, and it's not the sound thats the problem)

@marcb1278 5 жыл бұрын

Does the Neo 2 accepts horizontal dropout easily like Felt IA14, bit of a struggle, or no go? Thanks

@TheRemizinho 5 жыл бұрын

Ray, can you let us know what TV support is that? Thanks!

@carlospetricioli 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I understand that I can fit a 12*142 with the included adapter, but do you know if I can use the thru axle from my bike? I am a bit worried that the adapter might damage the frame. It looks like it would need to sit directly on the carbon part of the frame. I have a Venge with disc breaks.

@nathaliec7330 5 жыл бұрын

if i dont want to use zwift does the neo2 connect power to fenix watch? or just cadense and speed?

@Jfos33 5 жыл бұрын

Have they fixed the issue from the original with sprinting? My Neo 1 can't handle a quick increase in cadence/power, I believe it is a known issue.

@barryhambly7711 5 жыл бұрын

As I understand the Neo does not have adjustable feet for levelling so that is an oversight good job my Kickr has it really locks it tight I found the difference from my old turbo which seemed pretty good

@dynosores888 5 жыл бұрын

Difference is 15 percent on the new unit compared to the old. Do you recommend paying more for the newer NEO ? What more can they add to this trainor via flashing the firmwares??? Great unboxing .

@Primetime_dads 4 жыл бұрын

If I have a giant tcr with 25 c tired then I can use the standard quick release that come with it right, or will I need to use something else

@tahntalus 5 жыл бұрын

Is the neo 2 compatible with the sram nx eagle cassette(pg 1230 11-50t)?

@mango7423 5 жыл бұрын

Ohhh no socks! I just bought a Kickr, if Tacx would have announced the Neo 2 just a bit earlier, I would have considered it. But to be honest is there even a new thing besides the colouring?

@miguelcintron6595 4 жыл бұрын

are the screech noise that comes from the cassette and the chain normal ? or do you have any tips to loweer the noise..

@tahntalus 5 жыл бұрын

Is the tacx neo 2 compatible with the sram pg 1230 11-50t cassette?

@pedroagrela1910 3 жыл бұрын

I am having a bit of a problem finding information about the compatibility of the Neo 2 with the new canyon ultimate cf sl 7 (2021 model). I have the Neo 2, I’m interested in buying the canyon and this was the only place where I’ve seen a Neo 2 with an ultimate. Didn’t receive a any info from Tacx yet and canyon says they don’t know about the possible compatibility. So my question is, are they compatible out of the box? Do the fit well? Do I need to buy some kind of adapter? Thank you.

@8584zender 5 жыл бұрын

Still not seeing what's new here other than the blue color and dropout adaptors. That said, very satisfied with my 2018 Neo. Also... TIE fighter? Freudian slip, I'm sure. Imperial shuttle :)

@Skippy2Ton 3 жыл бұрын

Ray, can you answer a question about the Tacx training plans? There's no information out there. I complete my FTP test and start the brickwork series and then...? Do I just do whatever I need to to try to stay at the target power output without going over or under by too much? Should I be trying to maintain a certain cadence while doing so? I love the feel of the trainer and the virtual rides, but Tacx has no information out there on how to follow their plans.

@schoebelski6602 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your great videos (even with crappy mic's ;-) ... Maybe I missed it somewhere in the video - but - what's actually the difference between the "old" NEO and the new NEO 2 (except the paintjob)?

@tahntalus 5 жыл бұрын

Neo 2 is supposed to be quieter and more efficient? its internals are setup for future upgrades, comes with thru axle adapters and has a new blue color?

@sergioortiz8219 5 жыл бұрын

If you stand and rock it from side to side, do you find that the skewer comes loose, which then throws off the gearing?

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Nope. :/

@Primetime_dads 4 жыл бұрын

Also do I got to have a ant plus adapter, I want to pair my stages power meter for power , tacx for controllable, and ticker for heart rate and power meter for cadence, or trainer which ever .

@ochre6887 5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to take the thing apart and see what the different internals are compared to the the neo. ;)

@NeonGrayEdits 4 ай бұрын

Just got mine today. Do you think you get as long of life out of the trainer using it unplugged? Is there any advantage or disadvantage of using it unplugged, besides that one feature? Thanks

@LeoInterHyenaem 5 жыл бұрын

From what I can see now, the sole distinguishing feature of the Neo 2 from the Neo, is the blue accents? The specs appear to be precisely the same. Am I correct?

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

From a baseline spec standpoint (i.e. max wattage/incline/etc...), that's all the same. It's more the internals that have shifted, allowing the greater detail in pedaling metrics as well as some unknown future things.

@edinkurtovic91 7 ай бұрын

Hi , is that chain sound normally? Have same chain sound.

@ivan64980 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, another great video, thanks. I am considering the neo for my first trainer but I am worried about the noise for the neighbor below, as I have to train very early in the morning when most people are sleeping... Anyone has any thoughts if this would be too noise as to bother the neighbor below (I would place an exercise mat under the trainer but still...) ?

@aforanti 5 жыл бұрын

The trainer is silent. But remember that vibration could be an issue, so I use thick rubber gymnasium floor tiles from my hardware depot. Most noise will come from your chain and cassette. So have good condition can and cassette and make sure it's clean and correctly lubed for the job. Make sure it's adjusted right too. If you want to go further, you could use a small wall of acoustic sound absorbing material near the drive train so it does not echo and amplify any noise.

@maveriks463 5 жыл бұрын

Hope no bugs👾 will still wait 2 yrs before I touch any Tacx new gear 👍.

@mattcostall5321 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I've read that you can connect the Neo to a compatible Garmin device by addidng it as a power meter. Does this mean i will get virual miles recorded too? Do you have any experience of this as i wish to follow my own plans on my recent Neo 2 purchase. Thanks

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Correct. It transmits power/cadence/speed.

@pedoncule36 5 жыл бұрын

Does it accept long cage derailleur for a 11x32 cassette for example ? Thanks in advance

@DaftDroneYT 5 жыл бұрын

I'm using a 11-36 cassete, never had a problem

@pedoncule36 5 жыл бұрын

@@DaftDroneYT On the previous model Neo smart 1st version ? Thanks

@DaftDroneYT 5 жыл бұрын

@@pedoncule36 Previous model, not sure about the version

@lhamagedon 5 жыл бұрын

I'm using a 11-34 8 speed cassette with a long cage on a Neo one with lots of clearance.

@pedoncule36 5 жыл бұрын

Tacx Neo 2 vs Wahoo Kickr 2018 ? Which to choose..? I need help.. Thanks

@DPCPhotos 5 жыл бұрын

I was about the pull the trigger on the Kickr 2018... but google "kickr 2018 clicking flywheel" before you buy anything. Also, visit DC Rainmaker's website and read the comments in the in-depth Kickr review (scroll all the way down in the comments section) and you'll see tons of posts on this issue. Hopefully Wahoo fixes this soon because winter is here and I really want their trainer!

@danielt3214 5 жыл бұрын

How much of a difference does the sideway flexibility on the neo make? Does it add comfort (in the saddle) on long run indoor rides? That would -personally speaking - be that one argument, that would get me in the market for the Neo 🤔

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

I think it makes a little bit of difference, but not nearly as much as something like one of the Kinetic Rock & Roll or R1 trainers, or a rocker plate in general.

@5mattcolour 5 жыл бұрын

That explains the current good deals on the original Neo then.

@rusty9501 5 жыл бұрын

5mattcolour What

@5mattcolour 5 жыл бұрын

@@rusty9501 Original Neo was massively reduced around the time of this video, still can get some good deals now around 30% off RRP.

@Primetime_dads 4 жыл бұрын

Do you change your power source to the power meter when racing on zwift, and then when training zwift do you just let the tacx neo just control everything in erg mode. What if I just want to do hill climbs , would it be best to have my power meter tell me my power and not the tacx. I want it like real like feel where I got to change gears to get resistance

@Dcrainmaker 4 жыл бұрын

Nah, I generally don't bother. Mostly because I don't race fast enough for it to matter too much to me personally.

@biodegradablebiomat 5 жыл бұрын

how do I know if it fits with my mtb? my mtb is not on the list of compatible bikes on tacx website as it includes road bikes only.

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Generally speaking with mountain bikes you've got less to worry about frame compatibility wise (since they aren't super tight like many TT/triathlon bikes and road bikes). Instead, you can mostly focus on whether your thru-axle system is compatible.

@christophegoudal5060 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, on all the tests that we find on the internet nobody tests the maximum power of the machine. Me on mine impossible to reach or exceed 1300 watts without it crashes. On a forum I found another person who apparently has the same concerns too. When tacx announces that we can reach 2200watt, I remain skeptical.

@charlkoorts1958 5 жыл бұрын

The Neo 1 is great except for cadence being all over the place. The Neo 2 works great except there is some issues that they are hopefully working on. Tacx know about the cadence issues and it calls for a longer pedal stem. Attaching something to your pedal so the sensor can reed it helps. The Bluetooth problems, for now, just switch off the unit after use. On the Neo 1 we don’t see any of the Neo 2 problems. Did they just cheap out?? Mmmm

@0kojack0 4 жыл бұрын

This is a saris h3?

@brendensmyth1462 5 жыл бұрын

Ray. I see you used the EXAKT pedals in this and I’m keen to hear your post Stelvio dramas. I have a set and they seem to reading a lot lower then I was expecting to my Kickr and Quarq. Thanks

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I go back and forth like the wind on them in terms of whether they are accurate or not. Some days I like it, and then somedays it appears they're reading low. I dare not touch them though (removal/etc...), as it took a lot of fiddling to get them installed right. Though, I was having battery drain issues, so the company actually just sent me another set that should arrive tomorrow. We'll see...I've got tons of data, but I'm honestly more unsure on what my conclusion is than any power meter or trainer I've tested before.

@brendensmyth1462 5 жыл бұрын

DC Rainmaker have they supplied you any firmware updates? I’m still running the supplied version of 1.4

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

@@brendensmyth1462 Nothing beyond whatever the production app gives me.

@mechatak 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray. Two questions: 1. Do you consider the neodymium magnet design of Neo/Neo2 as technologically more advanced than the belt design of virtually every other direct drive trainer? Side Q. Less moving parts means longer lasting, less to go wrong? 2. Is any other company coming up with similar technological innovation. We know about STAC Zero, but is anyone working on something similar to Neo/Neo2?

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

1) Definitely more advanced. Especially when it comes to accuracy, but also features they can implement (like road-feel). 2) I suspect eventually we'll see all companies do a variant of this. Enjoy!

@mechatak 5 жыл бұрын

DC Rainmaker thanks. Really appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work.

@sloth6765 5 жыл бұрын

How quiet is it compared to WAHOO CORE?

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

Good idea, side by side test coming up! In the meantime, here's it against the Neo 1 a couple months ago, in which case both are virtually silent: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y511eJNzm6_XnYk.html

@bosco2814 5 жыл бұрын

almost same

@papishulan 5 жыл бұрын

Do a tactix charlie review plz

@mikelong9048 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray, with the Neo 2 at $999 on REI would you recommend this over the Wahoo Kickr 2018? I'm buying one of them this week and was going to go with the Kickr b/c of price but now the Neo is back in the mix.

@antoniomaestro9179 4 жыл бұрын

Mike Long i have the same doubt. What did you finally do?

@mikelong9048 4 жыл бұрын

@@antoniomaestro9179 I bought the NEO 2t and returned the Kickr. Very happy with my decision. Can't pinpoint what I like better but it just works and the ride feels better. It was 20% off at REI for a few days. I would think the NEO 2 or the 2t are the way to go.

@antoniomaestro9179 4 жыл бұрын

Mike Long thanks Mike. In my case, I have a good offer for Neo 2. My fear is to buy something that will become obsolete soon with the new launch of Neo 2T.

@randy644 4 жыл бұрын

Mike now that you have had the 2t for a few months, do you still like it better than the kickr? My concern is the lack of a real flywheel will make the trainer feel very non-road like. What are your thoughts?

@randy644 4 жыл бұрын

I forgot to add, how is it in sim mode zwift for races and group rides? Is the power accurate?

@smoller 4 жыл бұрын

I am looking for a good fan for my home trainer setup. Any recommendations?

@QiuyuanChenRyan916 5 жыл бұрын

Well, why would they put cassette if we use a different cassette? Not everyone out there using 11-32, some would say 11-25 all day long.

@bosco2814 5 жыл бұрын

Good news: I don't have to upgrade me Neo. Bad news: I wish a new outlook design with handle and support sth like kickr climb.

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

I agree, a handle would be nice. Unfortunately, CLIMB compatibility would require Wahoo to open up access to that.

@ashfield001 5 жыл бұрын

Rainmaker you are much much better then the quality of the video in this review. Doesn’t do justice to your much higher levels of knowledge and experience you have in this area. Just some helpful feedback. I would have redone the video. Cheers.

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure I follow? What’s wrong with my video (first look, not a review)?

@lechprotean 5 жыл бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker well the sound makes it unwatchable, as I understand this is your 'job' now - so just redo the video and reupload in place - I'm sure people will be finding this in a few months still...

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

lechprotean There’s no such thing as reuploading in place in KZfaq. Don’t get me wrong. I dislike the sound as well, but the vast majority of people don’t find it unwatchable (as clearly evidenced by views and like ratio). Crap happens. I could either spend that time (8-10 hours) redoing a video to please a handful or, I could spend that same time on a new product/video. Can’t win them all.

@troycollett8540 5 жыл бұрын

I heard somewhere the neo 2 np longer shows cadence

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

That somewhere would be definitely incorrect. You can actually see it in my data in the video that I talk about.

@danielcrabbe 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video - nothing on the pedal analysis? Seems to be very minor addition and only on the PC app? Its supposed to be a big selling point of the Neo 2.

@oobahy Жыл бұрын

Where is the detailed review of neo 2t?

@Dcrainmaker Жыл бұрын

Looks like I never did a video follow-up, just a long written review: www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/11/tacx-neo-2t-smart-trainer-in-depth-review.html

@MstrRo 5 жыл бұрын

Does any other Trainer manufacturer have a simularly functioning descent feature like the Neo 2 whereby, when you coast going downhill, and actually pick up speed without pedaling (depending on the decline and your weight)?

@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not aware of any (mainstream ones anyways). Sorry! :(

@pacomelendez5030 2 жыл бұрын

You did sound weird

@T-Slider 5 жыл бұрын

Redo. I can’t handle the audio.

@jmvdigital 5 жыл бұрын

Guess you don't need to watch it then. These type of comments amuse me. Like you're paying for this content or are somehow qualified to make demands like "redo". Do you have any clue how much time this kind of content takes to make?

@davidcoates735 4 жыл бұрын

Don't post videos with broken mic, and background noise. I only want on topic content, not apologies and hear about your problems. You should take this one down or remake it without these problems.

@Dcrainmaker 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad you liked it!