Tad is a family friend and definitely one of the greatest patriots in the church today still. Very few still hammer on the greatness of the constitution and this free country. I was at Education week and noticed they put him at the furthest end of the campus. He is a marquee speaker deserving of the ballroom at minimum but was obvious his topic on america and Gods hand in founding it was not of BYU interest .

It's time for We the People to start paying attention to whom is on our state and local school boards.

It was President Benson that said, "The Lord works from the inside out. The world works from the outside in. The world would take people out of the slums. Christ takes the slums out of people, and then they take themselves out of the slums. The world would mold men by changing their environment. Christ changes men, who then change their environment. The world would shape human behavior, but Christ can change human nature." (Gen. Conf. 1985)

Tad is a spiritual rockstar!! Everything that he's written is inspiring. Great discussion, no, exceptional discussion!! Thank you!! I'm a legal immigrant from about 20 years ago. This poor nation is racing to the brink of becoming unrecognizable of the nation I joined. 😥 In our country, we have floppy floating formless masses of ever-changing hypocrites who are blinded by the "flavor of the day.'. Though I also think there's big money behind (some of) this "self destruction."

I like how Tad Callister points us to what the Lord said and to the primary historical sources to help us interpret what happened in history and why.

I'm a Canadian and I'm envious of your constitution.

One of the stake high council came to speak at my ward on the constitution in September 2023 on Constitution and then proceeded to deny me my first amendment right to speak at a city public meeting. He is on the city council. Actions speak louder than words!

I was one of 35 Jordan School District 5th grade teachers who, over a three year period, studied U.S. History. Please have Pam Campbell Su'a, who led the project, on the show. I think she works with UVU now, teaching about the constitution. There are so many out there who love the country and try to educate people about it. Many teachers DO have a love, and reverence, for our country and constitution.

Great discussion. Needs to be shouted from the rooftops woth a megaphone!!!!

So refreshing to hear these things discussed. We must stand for the protection our inspired Constitution!

Thank you for this conversation. I'm so grateful to hear from Elder Tad Callister. God respects our free will / moral agency and He wants us His children to do likewise. He helped to free both ancient Israelites from Egyptian bondage and modern Americans from British tyranny. God inspired the U. S. Constitution, He commanded His saints to uphold it in the tradition of America's wise virtuous (even though imperfect) founders, and He has never rescinded those commandments. I'm so grateful that the Lord tried so hard throughout the 1950s-1960s through President McKay and Elder Benson and so many others to rally the Saints to save the Constitution, but I'm sad that they didn't listen better until He eventually (mostly) dropped the matter, as He warned them that He would do if they kept not responding. It's hard watching our republic follow a similar course as classical Rome's, now teetering upon the brink of imperial despotism due to secret combinations lusting for power. But I'm grateful that the Lord has been preparing people to help preserve the principles of the U. S. Constitution. Hurrah for rightful liberty, three cheers for the U. S. Constitution, and (with God's help) long live the republic!

Joseph Smith said, "I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves. "

Excellent discussion. Thanks, Greg, for making me aware of "Why I Love America".

I think this whole conversation was being brought forth with inspiration! Hayden Paul is wise beyond his years.

Love this! Thank you for allowing these truths to be spoken on your platform, we need it!

I gave a talk in sacrament meeting using only the words of prophets about this very subject. I have never been asked to speak again.

Please share the contributions of the haudenosaunee in helping the founding fathers with the constitution!! The idea of the 3 branches of government and natural rights come from the haudenosaunee and god !! The peace maker came and shared this idea with the haudenosaunee in America prior to the founding fathers coming to America and I believe this was our contribution in helping establishing the nation

Good episode. Over the last ten years I've come to think that Marxism in all is it's forms is the Great and Abominable Church of the Devil. Marx and Joseph Smith were contemporaries. I even think that Marx and Marxism was the adversary's answer to Joseph Smith and the Restoration.

I am a descendant of the Wampanoag tribe and the pilgrims. It gets me so frustrated when they lies get told about the pilgrims. They saved each other and that treaty lasted for 50 years. Their relationships was so close that many intermarried and many took on English names

I love your program, thank you so much for educating us!

Great discussion...

One must watch out for the lower priority things like the government and criminals when they threaten the higher priorities like the family and the church.

Hayden that is a quote from Ezra Taft Benson

Great video! Thank you three! I’m a big fan of all you guys!

9:44 You speak to freedoms in general here, and those who are moral and freedom oriented fighting for the freedom of all, even those who use such freedoms to oppose freedom. That's how I've generally viewed the matter for the three + decades after college. However, that's changed slightly. I used to be a free speech absolutist. Or, nearly so, with exceptions that impinge on other rights such as direct incitement to violence, etc. However, I've been persuaded that GK Chesterton was onto something when he said "There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." I no longer view my part as a freedom supporter to protect the free speech of those who advocate for curtailment of free speech. Doing so would be me assisting the abolition of free speech. I will support any free speech, however much I disagree or dislike, so long as it continues to support my and other's right to free speech. Similarly, I've become less absolutist in regards to other's actions that are anti-freedom. Some of these campus protests are crossing my personal line in that regard. When they become anti-constitution in nature, I don't feel much obligation to support their constitutional rights. I fear the slippery slope of not supporting their freedoms to be anti-freedom, but supporting them is also a veritable slippery slope to an alternative path to loss of freedom.

This is an incredibly interesting discussion! Everyone should hear this!

Hayden was mentioning the history prior to the Spanish landing here in America in the book 1491. I also want to recommend the book by SC Gwynne called Empire of the Summer Moon, history of the Comanche people on the southern plains. He backs up what Hayden was saying.

I absolutely love this! Thank you!

I bought a book, "God Family Country" years old, that I haven't yet read. All I needed to know was in that title.

The quote Hayden used comes from President Ezra Taft Benson.

So good!

Loved this!🙏🏼🇺🇸

Amazing

The quote Bro Paul uses at 43 min is attributed to many of the Brethren - certainly Ezra Taft Benson & Boyd K Packer had versions

Marriner S Eccles was a return missionary and got right in bed with the Fed. Utah has no idea who lives amongst them.

Great interview CWIC!

It seems even the church is divided on this subject.

I want one of those booklets!!

Better as a quad split screen with the 4th alternating the cwic and I love America logos

I guess im more Jeffersonian, and i really wish that would get more than a passing glance, but oh well,at least the church still cares about this stuff. I'll still follow.

I am a HS teacher in Kansas. I teach in a HS of about 2,100 students. If I wanted to get say 50 copies on the cheap for my HS student club how might I go about that??

In 1922 Charles Nibley said: "I believe as the Prophet Joseph has written, that the day would come when there would be so much of disorder, of secret combinations taking the law into their own hands, tramping upon Constitutional rights and the liberties of the people, that the Constitution would hang as by a thread. Yes, but it will still hang, and there will be enough of good people, many who may not belong to our Church at all, people who have respect for law and for order, and for Constitutional rights, who will rally around with us and save the Constitution. I have never read that that thread would be cut. It will hang; the Constitution will abide and this civilization, that the Lord has caused to be built up, will stand fortified through the power of God, by putting from our hearts all that is evil, or that is wrong in the sight of God, by our living as we should live, acceptable to him."

There is a lot of good stuff in this discussion. But there are some common misconceptions repeated here too. First (I confess this is my pet peeve), the American Revolution was NOT a repudiation of the divine right of kings. It is historically incorrect that "up until the revolution, everyone assumed that kings ruled by divine right." The early Stuart Monarchs (James I, Charles I, Charles II, and James II) all claimed to rule by divine right. During the prior dynasty (the Tudors), divine right was one theory that was debated a little, but was never broadly accepted. James II was de-throned by his son-in law and his daughter (William & Mary) in 1689. They reigned as equals because William had no blood claim to the throne. William was not an absolute monarch. He was more of a Chairman of the Board--something like an American President. The "divine" monarch was his father in law living in exile. Parliament passed a law preventing any Catholic (Which James II was) from taking the throne regardless of blood claim--and in complete derogation of divine right theory. After Queen Anne died childless, there was no Stuart heir to the throne. King George I (Hanover) who ascended the throne in 1714 on the death of Queen Anne, had like the 37th best blood claim of people living on earth at that time. He never claimed to rule by divine right. Neither did his grandson, King George III. None of the Hanovers would have argued for divine right theory because none of them had a traditional "divine right" claim according to blood. The last gasp of divine right theory was the Jacobite Rising of 1745, which attempted to put another Stuart monarch on the throne. It was not well supported and failed spectacularly. Divine right theory was dead as a doornail by the time Jefferson was 3 years old. It was essentially dead 87 years before the Declaration of Independence was signed. None of our founders grew up being taught that divine kingship was a thing. Repeating fables to make our founding sound more inspiring does not really help our cause. The American Revolution stood for the rights of man in a lot of important matters (spelled out in the Declaration of Independence). It was a seminal moment in the history of the world--but not for the reasons that are often claimed. It did stand for the principle that all are created equal and the accidents of birth should not determine who rules. It established equality between those living in the colonies and those in the mother country. It did establish that rights come from our status as children of God. It did not establish a Christian theocracy. The founding followed the recognition of English common law that we cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law--which was happening to those in the colonies. It established that a chief executive cannot dissolve Parliament. It established religious freedom as a constitutional principle. I could go on. But please stop repeating historical inaccuracies to make us sound like a nation of destiny. We are one. We don't need to embellish or repeat falsehoods trying to prove it.

How well is BYU reinforcing the true founding of America, the righteous origins of the US Constitution, etc., necessary for the restoration of the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

I would love to teach my kids the correct principles and history as discussed, but I admit that I don’t feel capable of doing so myself. How can I get that booklet or where can I go for dependable resources for me or my family?

Around the 26 minute mark there is discussion of the enlightenment and understanding the mind of God. A favorite of yours Greg is DBR which can be: Strong's #1697: dabar (pronounced daw-baw') from 1696; a word; by implication, a matter (as spoken of) or thing; adverbially, a cause:--act, advice, affair, answer, X any such (thing), because of, book, business, care, case, cause, certain rate, + chronicles, commandment, X commune(-ication), + concern(-ing), + confer, counsel, + dearth, decree, deed, X disease, due, duty, effect, + eloquent, errand, (evil favoured-)ness, + glory, + harm, hurt, + iniquity, + judgment, language, + lying, manner, matter, message, (no) thing, oracle, X ought, X parts, + pertaining, + please, portion, + power, promise, provision, purpose, question, rate, reason, report, request, X (as hast) said, sake, saying, sentence, + sign, + so, some (uncleanness), somewhat to say, + song, speech, X spoken, talk, task, + that, X there done, thing (concerning), thought, + thus, tidings, what(-soever), + wherewith, which, word, work. I see a relationship to all these definitions and understanding the logic or the mind. This is reinforced by three mystical meaning of DBR. Dalet- Door Beit- House/Relationship Reish- Head/Mind All these are doorways to the house of the mind. Somebody does something and often we say, “what were you thinking.”

That is extremely sad regarding Tad and BYU if really true!

Oh, the attack on National identity today with our younger and more impressionable students is more subtle than most people recognize. It is being shoved out by the emphasis on everything else. This began with "No Child Left Behind" and continues at the expense of what we need most to teach. I see this in my own district as a teacher. I have to ignore district directives to some extent to get in a half hour of US History each day.

Resident Atheist here. I 100% support freedom of religion. Congress shall make no law...respecting the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof. Since the 14th amendment this applies to all of government under the Constitution. Thank goodness that secularism is increasing throughout society. It is a false assertion that morality is the exclusive realm of religion. I am an example of why that assertion is false. I am not alone. Atheism is not a political position, though many people with political positions are Atheist. Religion is an individual right, inviolate. The clash comes when purely religious ideas clash with civic principles with no rational support. I would posit that the fight religion put up regarding gay marriage is one such instance. Gay marriage hurts nobody, objectively. Therefore, even though many have a religious objection to it, that objection cannot morally or ethically be imposed upon the rest of civic society, because there's no harm from it. I think this is why secularism is rising, because of that clash, among other things. When you're attempting to impose purely religious beliefs on all of us, as citizens, that is wrong. Regarding financial liberty (Free Market vs. Socialism)... We'll never be free again, if we do not return to a gold and silver standard, as mandated by the Constitution. We'll never be financially free with a fractional reserve banking system under a Federal Reserve. We'll never be free with a graduated income tax. Regarding the intent of the framers to give us a constitutional republic... We haven't been a constitutional republic since the 17th amendment. We have to revoke that amendment. We must also return our military officers commissions back to the State Legislatures, as mandated by the Constitution. I would warn all the guests in this podcast that you are getting close to a Christian Nationalism, which I don't think, I hope is not, your intention. We're not governmentally a "Christian" nation. Governmentally, we're supposed to be a Constitutional Republic, which Constitution guarantees, also, a Republican form of government for the States. Also, that same Constitution, by implication of the 1st and 14th amendments, has a separation of church and State, in that the State has nothing to do with establishment or exercise of religion. Nothing. As it says, "Congress shall make NO LAW..."...

on the subject of “moral people… Only with religious people“…. I am not refuting God, the creator or Jesus Christ, or what you are discussing here, but “moral people“ is not a monopoly that religious people have. I am firmly suggesting that atheists are definitely also moral people. maybe they are even more moral than religious people. When you examine motivation and underlying causation of works, their reasoning is why it is “better“ to be moral. I have actually a lengthy discussion on that subject based on the principal, called by the Lord in association with “doubting Thomas“. He is my favorite Christ time apostle. Well, Jesus teaches to be believing those that have seen him testify of him and they who believe without seeing him personally are much better off than those that have personally seen him. Now how much better off are those that don’t even believe in the Creator like we religious people do, and yet perform good acts? Do you get my point? And about,, why he is my favorite, it’s because I believe it is everyone’s right to see Him for yourself, and there’s nothing wrong with that desire, actually, I believe it is much better to desire to see him for yourself than faith based on believing others. But that goes off subject; back to atheist, I know a few, all wonderful, excellent people do good naturally from within themselves, and there is no commandment that they seem to be adhering to. Compare just like when Jesus comes to his vineyard, and analyzes the various different servants. I believe the servant that acts good for himself without commandment is definitely the better one than the one that follows religions commandments fear etc. I’m not saying it’s good to be an atheist. But what I’m saying is that morals are not determined by religion, but by the person who chooses to act.

Those “use the Constitution to punish others” are not following true principles but are only using the word “constitution” and are abusing it.

I need help with Scripture notes. Do I read the from the app or do I use my own scriptures, and then use scripture notes. I signed up for it and I really want to use it but I am really having a hard time using it. I've been looking all these things up the hard way, and I know this will save me a lot of time with my writing, but the first thing comes up as a menu, that you kind of have to know what it means the whole thing and I can't figure it out..

The God of the founding fathers isnt who we think it is. Some of them were Christians but the majority were masons. Read their manuscripts.

I’m not sure capitalism is God’s idea nor is it part of the constitution. The concept in the constitution is private property and personal freedom of ownership responsibility only to God. The law of consecration and United would have been closer than capitalism to God’s desires.

I have to ask how is it socialist believers think they have been able to buy a home, buy land, buy the car thry want? Where do they think they got the rights to obtain these things? Hiw can they not kniw that socialism, marxism, communism will take these very things they have calked theirs? Not being dusrespectful, just trying to understand their thought process

Slavery wasn't abolished. Read the 13th Amendment carefully.

Greg, what significant political group is calling for the abolition of the constitution? This is a view not held by the either the Democratic, Republican, Libertarian, or Green parties. The only kinds of groups pushing this are revolutionary leftist groups (an extremely small political minority in the USA) and fascists (also an extremely small political minority in the USA.) I think framing that there's a nebulous threat of "them" coming for the constitution in its entirety is false and a lot of your arguments rest on that. It's fine to disagree with secularists but I don't think it's true to say a formidable political force in the USA is threatening the constitution as a whole. I would love if you could just show me any credible sources on that threat and I will change my mind. Hell, even some public polls would help change my mind. (I'm not saying you're gonna rebut with it but please don't say by advocating secular interpretations of the constitution, which our entire government already rests on, is the same as advocating for the abolition of the constitution.