Taiwanese Mandarin vs Chinese Mandarin, do we understand each other? (Listening Practice. Subtitled)

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@MandarinWithMissLin Жыл бұрын

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@hvuvtjs 2 жыл бұрын

Having had friends from northern China and Taiwan, I would say that some of the northern Chinese accents (especially Beijing) sound very dramatic and somewhat aggressive when compared to the Taiwanese accents. I think Taiwanese Mandarin sounds very elegant and easy going - although sometimes I find it hard to understand when 'ch', 'sh', 'zh' are pronounced as 'c', 's', and 'z'.

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

True. we don’t distinguish those words:) 😅

@Maryline 3 жыл бұрын

super intéressant!! merci Michelle 😊

@dylanho8608 9 ай бұрын

Taiwanese accent is similar to Thai language, gentle and welcoming 😁

@ryanr8121 3 жыл бұрын

When I hear my Chinese co-workers speaking and Taiwanese co-workers, I think people from China sound a little more nasal and more singing sounding. I have a co-worker from Inkou..her accent is really clear. I thought she would sound kind of like someone from Beijing because she said it's further north than Beijing, but her Mandarin is pretty clear. Not such a heavy "er" 口音。

@sasino 2 жыл бұрын

True, I find the Taiwan accent a bit too flat and less musical

@strangefellow 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely love the Taiwanese accent !

@sasino 2 жыл бұрын

I find the Shanghai / Suzhou area accents the most beautiful

@amytheorangutan 3 жыл бұрын

我覺得台灣口音比較可愛❤️

@graemewatson2296 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Miss Lin. I first learnt China-style Mandarin then went to Peking to teach back in 1979, so the accent was very familiar. I already had the "er" from Scottish relatives. But from 1988 on I switched to Taiwan Mandarin. Political considerations, of course. But, strangely even after living and working in Taipei for 8 years, I still have trouble with the accent esp the differences in tones for quite a few characters. But ... I thought this was funny - a man in a supermarket praised me for my Chinese and not having a China accent! I can still do a pretty good 北京話兒 if needed. 繁體字 are much nicer, too.

@lordkent8143 Ай бұрын

Yeah my experience has been that alot of mainland Chinese speak Mandarin fast and use very unheard of vocabulary. Taiwanese Mandarin has always been more slower to me, and despite using their own slang, their word usage is often common textbook words. My theory is that they developed that when Taiwanese people had to learn Mandarin after WW2. When the Kuomintang flee to Taiwan, many Southern Chinese accents stuck on and it basically became what it is now.

@raidahrazak282 3 жыл бұрын

ya ya. Malaysia mandarin syllabus have er-suffix. but as my circle mostly Taiwanese, I dropped the er-suffix. Nice to watch this video. 😍😍😍

@MandarinWithMissLin 3 жыл бұрын

😄原來！Thanks for sharing!

@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын

yeah sha for shenme is another example

@user-on8wl6qx5i 2 жыл бұрын

ooh I just found out your podcast... great!!. Podcasts are my favourite way of learning languages.

@user-ji8uo2wm3d 2 жыл бұрын

①I don't think Taiwanese Mandarin sounds like Mandarin spoken in Fujian Province. The average accent of the people of Fujian Province is stronger, in my personal opinion. Taiwanese Mandarin on the other hand is closer to Standard Mandarin. Also, Taiwanese Mandarin has undergone much influence of other parts (not Fujian) of China, which brings some phonological characters like "do not distinguish between 'en' and 'eng'". ②As for the reason of Mainland Chinese people tend to speak faster, I think that is because they are from northern part of China, which means that (Standard) Mandarin is probably (at least one of) their mother tongue. So they are super adapted to the fast speaking rhythm. ③Malaysian accent sounds really different to me. The most obvious difference is that they tend to speak the 去声 tone in a flat way, which sounds weird. Also, they tend to use a huge amount of English words and words from other languages, so sometimes it is a bit hard for me to understand Malaysian Chinese Mandarin. Taiwanese accent is much more easier to understand. ④It is not necessary to distinguish "in" and "ing" by speaking "ing" like "ieng". In fact, people from northern eastern China (larger than 东北, northern eastern also includes 华北东部 here) can differentiate in and ing easily.

@chusuinspiratornegri8603 3 жыл бұрын

tips and trick for tocfl (cat).. for september

@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын

If you are ever looking for a good topic for newbies: pronouncing the 3d tone. It's "the vocal fry". I can't really produce that sound. I've looked at all the various videos trying to teach 3d tone. None are good. Great video as ever Ms. Lin!

@Sorrynametaken 3 жыл бұрын

Try to think of it as a sharp drop followed by a low tone that doesn't rise much.

@sasino 2 жыл бұрын

😕 That's strange, I find it easy. I find the first and second tone harder to distinguish and pronounce differently

@ivonneanas 2 жыл бұрын

Please add for traditional subtitle , so we can also learn by reading Chinese characters ❤️ 謝謝

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

Please check out the transcript on my Patreon :)

@TheFiestyhick 3 жыл бұрын

Well done

@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын

pinyin N = N.asal pinyin NG = G.lottal English (other european languages too) doesn't make that distinction. This pronunciation drift between Mainland and Taiwan doesn't change the characters at all though right? Sorry my Zhuyin is next t nil. What I really want to do is to figure out when pictophonetic characters include both initial AND final sound clues. Some do! Is there any rule to it? Probably not. Though most all pictophonetic characters are read out from right to left so at least there's that. You love Chinese even more than I do and I am very very jealous! XD

@icyboy771z Жыл бұрын

Would be good if u add subtitles

@tydalm.9665 2 жыл бұрын

Ha, quite interesting! Thanky you! And Annecy is so nice. I have been there long time ago as a kid with my parents. I will rember it forever, since I have a small scarf in my face, from a accident I had there (nothing serious).

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that you know annecy:)

@tydalm.9665 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandarinWithMissLin I wanted to visit Savoy again for a long time. It's not that far away from Berlin. But there are so many places I have not been to. I want to visit Taiwan first, when travelling is a bit easier.

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

🥰🥰🥰🇹🇼 Hope you can come one day

@somerandom7672 2 жыл бұрын

It's one of my favourite accents. Especially Taiwanese English. I fell in love with it over time, while listening to podcasts and stuff.

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that:) 😁

@mdfgo-kusmadi 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer more the Taiwanese Mandarin accent haha! It's true that when I listen to Beijing accent, I couldnt understand what they say. They swallow more words so I sometimes I don't get what they are trying to say. Love this video. Hope you can make more video of this. It's fun! Thank you Ms. Lin!

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

謝謝😁Do not hesitate to share it with your Chinese learning community! Thank you 🙏

@user-oz7lr4bg9x 2 жыл бұрын

閩南族的輔音非常明顯，他們以齒齦後輔音替代捲舌輔音。

@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын

there really are a few words and pronunciation which are unique to taiwan. taxicab has a different word in Taiwan, China, and either HK or Singapore for example.

@n3mosum 3 жыл бұрын

yeah i remember taxis and bicycles were different. same for some full phrases even, like 'throwing out the trash' (reng la ji / diu le se).

@paulhuang2030 3 ай бұрын

For bicycles, Taiwan actually shares 腳踏車 (jiao ta che, vs 自行車) with a number of mainland regions, including around Jiangsu (Shanghai) and Zhejiang.

@skateata1 Жыл бұрын

The Taiwanese sounds less aggressive. Softer too. Maybe more flat toned.

@aichujohnson8444 9 ай бұрын

The woman on the left pronounces "zh" as "z" {dz}. Is that a Southern Mandarin Pronunciation?

@D--man 3 жыл бұрын

說實話，林老師，在影片說的比較慢。我覺得是因為妳是中文老師。我是加拿大人。我大陸的朋友都覺得很明顯我在台灣學中文的。

@MandarinWithMissLin 3 жыл бұрын

嗯真的很明顯😊 🇨🇦的朋友好～

@ricosuave7102 2 жыл бұрын

Taiwan 🇹🇼 accent sounds way better than mainland Chinese accents. Beijing has the worst accent of them all.

@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын

yeah, the southern accents in chinese are even more beautiful. northern chinese is beautiful too, quite strong in fact, but allll the southern accents are prettier and i am a northerner! I hate southern climates! too hot!!!

@uminekannagi 10 ай бұрын

我甚至感觉后鼻音是不是东北特有的，我感觉南方都没有后鼻音

@heandjehsshhe 2 жыл бұрын

Shy? Some new kind of sickness, isn't it? I mean in Taiwan it is well-spread already. One of the most advanced nations... in shyness...

@misterbadminton123 2 жыл бұрын

PLEASE GIVE ME ENGLISH SUBTITLE :(

@MandarinWithMissLin 2 жыл бұрын

Actually Technique problem😅It’s fine now;)

@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын

Great accent training! Thank you all very much!!! Camera shy = "Well, my government is a dictatorship but at least its peaceful and productive". Well, there it is, I would love to say your elders know better, but nope, they are clueless. People can have good intentions but do bad things, and can also do good things despite past bad things. I am "camera shy" for similar reasons!

@graemewatson2296 Жыл бұрын

I don't fully understand this comment, but since Quizmaster China says "Well, my government is a dictatorship but at least its peaceful and productive", I'm guessing he is from Singapore. Of course the two ladies in the video being from the Communist China Prison State need to hide their faces. It's not really "shyness".

@eipiplusone3791 9 ай бұрын

Oh, shut up with your political imperialist anti China garbage

@kkjang468 8 ай бұрын

他們自己想打馬賽克嗎？

@haili586 2 жыл бұрын

not Xinjiang uyghurs , but from Han, hope they will be free one-day

@Twodime4032 Жыл бұрын

lol, I watched the "Rise of Trap in Southwestern China" from Vice news with my American friends, they saw a white rapper speaking in CHinese, they were surprised. I told them he is a uyghur Chinese, lol, they were left in surprise and I definitely know why but I did not ask more.