+LostOddity Haha, yeah. These 2 play off of each other so well.

hahhahahaha yes I agree dezel is werd

It is the wind trial after all

+shotstar24 i wonder how much longer its gonna rain *crys in the corner*

+DeepSearch27 dear god stop making me cry please. i cant take this no more. best character in the game. :'(

Are you sure it isn't Maotelus who became corrupted by the malevolence from Heldaff which would make more sense.

DeepSearch27 how he comes back to life?

this is prior look party members

nice

Oh my gawd, can't even count how many times I heard that in TOV 😂

Actually I think this should have been the true end perfect ending for this game.

they should of kept that gor any game over in the tales game

BluewolfR To bad they changed everything. Form the Apple Gel in the toilet joke down to the quotes when they die.

literally every shepherd before sorey

Sonic2978 so this is from killing him before the true end of the game?

I don't think it implied in the ending of Berseria that Maotelus is the strongest Empyrean. Remember the 4 Elemental Empyrean said that there should be a 5th Empyrean to keep the world in balance, however, it didn't say that the 5th Empyrean is the strongest. Though I agree that a dragon-Maotelus is a fucked up situation. Lol

Maotelus IS a dragon to begin with! Take a look at the ending of Berseria... * SPOILERS * He is just a WHITE dragon originally, but after becoming a helion he was tainted and therefore he become black.

How is it an unwinnable situation? Sorey can still find the original Innominat and unseal him along with Velvet. The Innominat and Velvet has the power to consume malevolence and might save the world once again. I wont mind a 3rd series for this tale series but I figure there will be even more sad endings :(

I think it's also implying that Sorey doesn't know about the whole epic story of Velvet and co. Remember, the other chars who could really tell all the story to Sorey and Mikleo instead went full-ass mofo, because he needed to find "his answer" (C). Which is, like, a huge plot hole - wouldn't it be better to find a moral choice within yourself when you actually know what happened? Moreover, you CAN NOT and SHOULD NOT rely on the answer that is based on desinformation or lack thereof. Well, apparently it worked for them. Yes, in the anime this is not the case, but in the game it definitely is. They go separate ways in therms of story. In the end, I liked the game and the story, but I was really down because of these plotholes. Ofcourse I do understand they needed to keep some things quiet for the sake of fresh sequel (or a prequel, actually) and a proper continuation of the story, but it just feels somewhat... lacky.

Eizen...... The fucking turtlez had 108,000 HP lmao

To be fair, Eizen's been around longer then Heldalf (like REALLY been around a long time if you've played Berseria)

I played berseria velvet would wipe the floor with Heldalf

+UnderdogHero Well for me even now i just can't understand how defeating heldalf at this time make a bad ending in the end, since it's the main antagonist to defeat.

+TheTomokiSakurai you beat the game right? then you know that maotelus isnt purified and that they both have been fused....

It's not that hard once you stop to contemplate how they stop Maotelus in the real ending. Because yes, when you kill the antagonist in the ending, Maotelus was gonna awake to tear shit up. But since Sorey knew already he had already planned to use himself as a purification vessel. In this ending however Sorey does not knows this. He's not prepared, so once Maotelus awakes it's all over, there's no plan to stop it. The realending's plan works only because Maotelus was still sleeping.

Dokomanari Michuo you have my respect

Lol, this is the ending where EVERYONE DIES. Including Dezel...)

well he won't be alive after dragon maotelus erupted from the land and shits on everything in site. Laphicet boutta fuck shit up

Ikr I hated him

syafickix And when you think he is cute little Laphiset (SP) from the prequel makes it sadder even still.

Still not sure how, the game was kinda vague and we never actually hear Maotelus speak.

Did people really not get the scene? should be easy once you actually finish the game. Basically,you killed The Lord of Calamity so now Maotelus is out and about destroying the world. Which is exactly what the huge dragon-like monster that showed up at the very end was. This is precisely the reason why Sorey did that whole "sacrificing his body as a vessel" thing at the end of Zestiria.

i just finished the game and i totally understand why it would give this ending when you kill heldalf too early...he was storing all the malevolence and if you kill him you release all of it and everyone will just be tainted by malevolence...all the hard work will go for naught...that's why lailah was just quiet coz she knows it was a bad decision but her oath prevents her from telling sorey why...i would do this on my 2nd playthrough...there's a save point anyway...bad ending get trophy/achievement and reload. gg ez.

ShinRyutora ShinRyutora No. That's not what happened. The reason why they couldn't kill Hedalf early was because Maotelus was using him as his vessel. They had to sever the link with the Siegfried so they could safely defeat Heldalf without freeing the corrupted Maotelus who would destroy the world. And then Sorey would be able to use himself as a vessel for Maotelus so he could purify him. They literally explain this in game.

If I had to guess, Edna and Dezel are very corrupt themselves. It's only from Sorey being the vessel that they themselves aren't hellions; emotionally, they seem pretty much gone.

@Kikori Kid LMAO

LovelyCinccino even though you put this a year ago I just still have to say the other laphicet was actually the reincarnated malak of her sister's baby who wasn't born yet technically making the other laphicet Velvet's nephew

This laphi isn't her actual brother it's #2 she took from theresa

@@buttertoast1146 yeah but he's the reincarnated form of Artorius' son so technically he's family?

@@LittleWhole no. a reincarnated malak may bring the previous life memory. but, they have no relatives. so, the died person and reincarnated malak are different

cz, Laphicet (Maotelus) is a part of Innominat. If Innominat dies, Maotelus would die too. That's why Velvet made endless feed cycle with Innominat

nice one

And poor Laphicet for being corrupted. He didn't deserve this :(

Eizen became dragon and killed too... Magilou wrote Celestial record and live alone until died...(probably) Rokurou killed on the way... Eleanor can't met any her seraph or daemon friends then died old... no one in Berseria got happy Ending...

I think Magilou had offspring though

Celestial Record was written by Shepherd Michael, 20 years before Sorey, not Magilou.

Magilou didn't wrote the celestial records

how did you fucked up? :P how do you get this ending?

You kill the Lord of Calamity early on in the game and I was really overleveled and I thought I had to fight him to progress through the story and then got this ending.

it isn't a "bad ending" it's an optional ending that can be acquired about mid way through the game. it's just a little "what if" showing what would happen in an alternate reality where the Shepard did not have all the facts.

It's implied Maotelus killed them all.

@@nichoudha lmao imagine if right before that happened Velvet accidentally stopped devouring Innominat and he goes beserk again after 1000 years and stops Maotelus

@@LittleWhole well inominant will awaken in another 4000 years as he awakens every 5000 years to supress humanity

@@blackchase6732 i don't think he will. he was permanently sealed away in an eternal sleep and maotelus took his place. it's unlikely to happen

But she cant stop feeding it be impossible cuuz lapi is feeding on her as well its a infinity loop

+Mrs Gamer Pretty much.

+Mrs Gamer Maotelus

Basch The dragon is Maotelus? i thought it was Eizen or just some random dragon lol

Yeah, it's Maotelus, he's freed since his vessel containing him with a curse died. And Maotelus as a Hellion wandering in the world means it's the end of the world. :D

Laphi:(((((

That and she was probably tryna think of corny joke to say b4 they're end

@@wesleymedina2166 6 year old comment but made me laugh , thanks 😂

@@gr1iev3r10 how tf did i find an hour old comment here

@@CeeFF just a lucky guy who discovered the tales series far too late and now enjoying all parts of it :) played arise, zestiria and now finished berseria. i wasnt aware of that ending in zestiria and im surprised by the connections between both games now ^^

Ha!

+Crystal Moon Personally I felt that the Bad End in ToZ was kind of weak as to what I was expecting to happen but thank you. : 3

+Falcom NPC HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

+Falcom NPC Three cheers for the most awkward bad ending in history XD Seriously, though, it's true. This ending really didn't fit well. It's just kinda....random.

Is it really? They kill The Lord of Calamity,Maotelus gets freed, Maotelus destroys the world. Sounds pretty straight forward to me.

There are various problems that would happen with Maotelus coming back and having gone mad, corrupted by the excess malevolence Heldalf releases if his ties to Maotelus as his vessel are not severed first before he is killed. Maotelus is the only known source of the Power of Purification and the entire world is within his domain, and his nature affects it. If he is corrupted like he is in this ending the Power of Purification could cease to exist, which means Sorey and co. wouldn't be able to purify hellions but only kill them, and even that would become more difficult. Maotelus' Domain would be one of malevolence instead of purification, which would start to destroy the planet and turn everyone and everything into hellions en masse, and not being able to curb the spread with purification would cause hellions to multiply more quickly. Sorey and Rose would even become overcome and eventually corrupted by the malevolence and become hellions and their seraphim allies who use them as vessels would also be corrupted and eventually turn into dragons. So in this scenario the situation is bleak.... Maotelus has gone mad and will start destroying everything, and is also corrupting the entire world.... humans and other animals and some objects are becoming hellions, seraphim are becoming dragons, resources are withering and poisoned. If Maotelus was able to be killed by Sorey and co. it would only delay the inevitable as the damage and loss of life due to the malevolence and hellions would be immeasurable. It's a lose lose situation all around.

Will be more in July , another anime adaptation of zestiria :)

Apparently heldalf took control of Maotelus himself, as shown in the final battle, where heldalf is cornered and armatize himself with maotelus to become ths "dragon heldalf" thing. MAYBE maotelus's own will was blocked by heldalf's control, cmiiw

He said another Lord of calamity would be born which is true

The rest was too far gone with evil. Even if she would have, it would be no point. It was the end if the word basically

If Lailah had told them the truth, she would have broken her pact, which would lead to the loss of her power to purify hellions and maybe even her dead. What would be Game over anyway.

+Sara Lata Yes it happens right after the battle and you go back to your last save.

@Tattle Boad as flawed as the anime was, at least the the ending was superior to the game.

wouldn't "other 4 dragons" be somewhat of a big difference? just wondering lol

Yet the other 4 are no where to be seen in this game?

+Kai tri maotelus is still corrupted!

+Anshar July Oh, so I must of missed something in the story. Heldalf dying cause maotelus to be released and he was corrupted immediately by the Malevolence?

+Skippy the Walrus Maotelus was already corrupted by the malevolence but heldalf absorbed him making them one. But before he could absorb him in this version they kill him which still leaves Maotelus who eventually gets released

+PreeSasukeUchiha But that doesnt make sence. Maotelus was trapped in a barrier by Mikleos mother for such a long time. He shouldnt be able to come out. And even if Sorey and his friends would just slay the Maotelus dragon like the other 2 dragons and Heldalf before. My Sorey was overleveled as fuck, no problem.

You're making the mistake of confusing gameplay with story. Being overleveled means shit in the story itself. As for the barrier used by Mikleo's mother, it was a barrier to prevent people from entering the place more than leaving. You honestly think one of the Seraphim Lords could actually be stopped by a barrier a human put up? The barrier didn't even manage to stop Heidalf once he had powered up. Just think of it this way more. There's an implication that the only reason Maotelus remained asleep was because a Lord of Calamity already existed. Once the current Lord of Calamity dies, as Lailah recounts, a new one will arise in time. SO basically,Maotelus was awakened to take the mantle of Lord of Calamity.

+lmotaku You probably did it too late. You have to do it immediately after finishing the wind temple or it will be too late.

swillo It was immediately after, and I didn't miss him any time he was around, except maybe Camelot Bridge.

+lmotaku Hmm strange. The trigger is definitely finicky, how long is the fight lasting? Maybe if you take too long he says that, but never heard of that before.

swillo Took me much longer to get half than the video. I didn't exactly prepare myself to fight him at that point. I was use to Tales of games doing the whole "You beat him to a point, but it's too early in the game, so you get the characters talking and it moves on." That's what happened to me.

+lmotaku You did it too late. That's the proper good-story version.

+kenrz Yes, right after you finish the wind temple, go fight him.

+swillo Alright, Thanks!

+Ichi Tetsu *That he turned into one and thus allowed the malevolence to spread inside of his domain which is basically the whole continent.

Sam This is fake how you get this ending?

Because something really bad (hence this bad ending) happens when you jump to conclusions and don't understand the circumstances that created Heldalf

so... why not let us play that instead of just "heres a bad end. deal with it."/

Bad end = everybody dies Nobody to play as if the world ends

but for them all to die in that very moment? hard to believe...

the dragon's precisely why beating heldalf before endgame is bad.

This is if you beat maotelus before your supposed to during the story no dlc needed. This is maotelus unpurified

+Mikey Ann At this point, Maotelus is still corrupted. If Sorey can't purify him, he's just gonna stomp everyone. The end.

Thanks, also stomping everyone? i can actually picture that happening, lol

better if sorey and velvet joins forces

+AsbelLhant100 yup

Hooooooooooooooly shit... O_O

AsbelLhant100 He wasn't purified yet

Is maotelus is laphicet. .. i dont get it??

Yousef Hanbali SPOILER ALERT! Yep, he's Laphicet, after Innominat was sealed away due to him going crazy, there was no one to purge the accumulated Malevolence from the world(which was Innominat's job), so he took Innominat's place as the Fifth Empyrean, Maotelus.

Theirs a reason why heldalf wanted you to kill him. Cause this shit would happen

The earth is maotelus's vessel heldalf was just connected with maotelus

Not the Mario music🤣🤣

It's just an extra ending for people who rushed the game and beat the final boss before they supposed to have to.

its not another problem...maotelus is unkillable. lol. no need to have a boss battle against him. PS. see maotelus is so strong that after he appeared they are all dead. how do you fight a battle where all 6 of you are dead? that's right GAME OVER. "The End" if you finished the game the ending says "Fin" as in the story is finished unlike this where you hit a bump and its "the end" no matter what you do. maotelus so savage his hellion gives no hope.

+X0209 No you don't

+swillo oh okay, I was just thinking, thanks anyway

Moon X Blast in the description

They killed Heldalf before they found out that he was using Maotelus as his Seraphim. After losing the host, Maotelus was free to rampage and destroy the rest of the continent, possibly the world

I think that was Maotelus actually since he is corrupt and was a seraphim.

No, Heidalf died and he was the only thing that was keeping the Corrupted Maotelus fromn going on a world-destroying rampage. The moment Heidalf dies, Maotelus got freed. Basically,killing him early shows you the consequences of just blindly defeating your enemies without understanding the whole situation.

So Heldalf is kind of good? He doesn't want world destruction since he was keeping Maotelus contained right?

Ritsu_oAo Heldalf began as a good guy.He was a general and his country's hero (heck, the knights still regard him as a respected former leader). Of course this changed as he was pressured under the war's duress and the incident at the Maotelus Shrine, but the guy was still acting on his nation's interest (just so happens that the Sheperd's village didn't recognize the authority of anyone and Hyland was ready and willing to invade the village as well). It wasn;tuntil he got cursed and lived a life of pure hell that he got corrupted into Calamity itself. This is significantly diferent from Hyland's leaders who instigate civil unrest, send their own royalty into a death trap and invade the Seraphim;s village simply because they want to cement their power as Hyland;s true leaders.

that's why after you get all spirit arts you go collect all iris gems lel.

+Rudy Reeves Just an extra ending.

+swillo Soooo, I haven't completed the game yet and I don't intend to get the bad ending but without any major plot spoilers or anything like that, how exactly does killing the lord of all calamity cause it to rain for eternity and spawn a giant godzilla? Like, I don't get how this slippery slope started but I'd like to have some sense made out of it.

+lildanial1 Basically he wanted you to beat him, If you win this way, you ended up falling into the trap of his plan, however you can only do this AFTER beating all four Element Shrines (Otherwise you can barely move much less use anyone besides Sorey and Rose in his doman areas), However you can avoid this ending by just doing what the game tells you (Go to where you first met him in the story where those twin assassin's will redirect you to Pendrago, After dealing with the events there which I won't say cause again spoilers, Do as the game tells you till you fight him PROPERLY outside the Earth Shrine location)Hope that helps ya. Believe me the proper fight with him outside the Earth Shrine will likely make you aware that he wants you to beat him since he keeps goading Sorey into kill him and reveals he's been leading you on (Preventing you from entering Areas your not suppose is his (and the creators) idea of keeping you on the Linear path of the story basically, well his was insuring you got the power from each of the shrines so you COULD fight him without being crushed by his domain.

+paulman34340 I actually like that you can enter areas you aren't supposed to and then get brutally murdered because of it. Also I still don't get how that summons Godzilla.

lildanial1 But that enters Spoilers territory which you asked NOT to cross, so you'll just have to beat the game to find out yourself :) They always say you can go anywhere...though that's the same as you have to choices, you want to get shot or not get shot

It's because Sorey hasn't learned everything he should have and technically strong enough to beat him. They also never meet Symonne and Zaveid never joins the team like in the true ending. And as you see at the end of a hellionized Maotelus which means the team didn't purify him like in the actual end so by the looks of it everyone technically "dies" in this end though we wouldn't know for sure what happens as it cuts off as soon as Maotelus appears.

ah I see

I'm guessing your supposed to assume they die either because this Maotelus is somehow stronger or because they had beaten the lord of calamity and weren't at all ready to jump into another battle so it go the drop on them.

no

No, this is a bad ending for the game. But even the game's best ending is a bit sad. The anime, for all its flaws, has the superior ending.

@@Elly3981 Only because it was made with Berseria in mind! Which the game was made WITHOUT (As good as they did to connect much to the games to make since and great for Fridge Brilliance/Horror, It's still obvious Berseria and Zestiria were never original suppose to have connections before they made it so!) Still feel Game's Main Ending is the better of the two (even though I agree Anime was abit better LOL)

Short answer: Heldalf and Maotelous ( the Dragon at the end) have some weird curse that stops Maotelous from doing stuff unless Heldalf dies. So killing Heldalf unleashes a Dragon even stronger than Tiamat or Eizen.

SPOILERS BELOW. (Explaining why this ending exists) Maotelus is still corrupted. Heldalf is Maotelus' Vessel, and defeating Heldalf without him being armatized does NOT purify Maotelus. The dragon you see for a second or two is Maotelus coming to destroy the world.

They killed Heldalf too early. Before you fight him you must first find out the truth, as in the past. Know your enemy before you defeat him. Heldalf had Maotelus contained inside him, Maotelus is a corrupted seraphim and the moment Heldalf dies Maotelus is freed and he will destroy the world. This is the Bad Ending.