Angel Hernandez makes MLB's worst call in four years

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Talkin' Baseball

Talkin' Baseball

Күн бұрын

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0:00 Intro
1:32 Worst calls
21:10 Minor leagues
26:49 Twin pitches
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@__abe
@__abe Ай бұрын
I’m a simple man. I see Angel Hernandez being called out for his unsatisfactory performance, I click. (Also, Jimmy looking well!)
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Ай бұрын
Hahahaha same 😂
@ConnorGlass121
@ConnorGlass121 Ай бұрын
Do you think MLB is keeping him around just for rage bait?
@Tarmaccafe
@Tarmaccafe Ай бұрын
@@ConnorGlass121I feel like the mlb did something to angel and he told them if he doesn’t get fired he won’t tell. That’s why he just trolls the game when he’s umping
@paulsega2066
@paulsega2066 Ай бұрын
KNOWING that MLB's umpire association cannot get rid of OR terminate him, Angel Hernandez is in my opinion actually doing all these bad calls on PURPOSE!!!!.........C'MON, I understand missing one call, maybe two...........but missing all three is absolutely either stupid or purposely!!!!!!
@landenroberts6710
@landenroberts6710 Ай бұрын
Ong😅
@Kilohe
@Kilohe Ай бұрын
Ah yes, another Jomboy episode of "How much does Angel Hernandez suck at his job today?" My favorite show.
@magus3553
@magus3553 Ай бұрын
My favorite show, that I hope gets cancelled, not Jomboy, but the Angel part.
@nero3k
@nero3k Ай бұрын
This will run longer than The Simpsons.
@Mr_Zimm
@Mr_Zimm Ай бұрын
New episodes weekly
@scsmith4604
@scsmith4604 29 күн бұрын
There should be an affiliate channel. Angel Hernandez Today by Jomboy. The offseason may not be that great but I am sure there would be some video somewhere of Angel on vacation
@MikeRehfuss
@MikeRehfuss 28 күн бұрын
The answer is, more than yesterday.
@stewartwalker-mf6dh
@stewartwalker-mf6dh Ай бұрын
Dear Jomboy, When discussing these Angel calls, Passan said on ESPN that “Angel is not worst” and that “there are umps who are worse at balls & strikes.” CB Bucknor came to mind. But I’d love to see a deep dive of which umpires are the worst at balls and strikes. I’m a pro-labor guy, but these umpires make me blame the union. So many dudes umping in AAA who have worked hard and deserve a chance to work in the bigs. But these old dudes won’t get out of their way. There needs to be a mechanism by which low performing umps can be sent down and successful minor league umps can be promoted. Thanks for your work. You are great at your job.
@ifbfmto9338
@ifbfmto9338 Ай бұрын
There needs to be a mechanism to fire bad umpires…… it’s called tearing up the ‘union’ nonsense
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson Ай бұрын
Honestly, the league should just tell.the umpires union that they have a choice. They can allow bad umpires to be sent down or they can not have their contract renewed once it expires. We don't NEED umpires. Everything they do can be done by a computer and one person to switch the baseball now and then. Make it clear that the decision is to lose the bad umps or for all the umps to be out of work.
@lakingsgeek
@lakingsgeek Ай бұрын
How much of the crap Angel Hernandez gets is because he isn't a good communicator and doesn't handle criticism well?
@Howesitgoing1
@Howesitgoing1 Ай бұрын
@@lakingsgeekI think he’s just the easy example when saying “Bad Umpire”. He became a household name after the fan called him out during the game on the mic and then he became the scapegoat when he missed I think 6 calls that got overturned at 1st in an ALDS game.
@ShawnnyPerkins
@ShawnnyPerkins Ай бұрын
I don't care what anyone says....UNIONS suck. The same reason Congress sucks. Bunch of old people who are inefficient and won't retire
@timvyfvinkel4542
@timvyfvinkel4542 Ай бұрын
I love how major league pitchers see an umpire is absolutely favoring a location, and then they abuse it. 😂
@Salvejohnny93
@Salvejohnny93 Ай бұрын
It’s almost a thing of manipulative beauty. 😂
@jeremy454
@jeremy454 Ай бұрын
It’s not abuse. It’s playing the game as it is. You may not be getting strike calls on the inside. You have to take advantage
@Michael-sb8jf
@Michael-sb8jf Ай бұрын
You should be pulled if you didn't do it. Also in a vacuum of a single game all I want is for the ump to call the game fair for both sides. If Angel is calling a pitch a foot off the base a strike it should be called all game for all 51/54outs. Then fire the ump if that bad trend continues
@dabearsfan9
@dabearsfan9 Ай бұрын
I think it’s actually neat looking at all the ways they try and play the field in that regard. That’s why I love jomboy he does such a good job at breaking it all down for the casual fan
@Shazprime
@Shazprime Ай бұрын
It's part of the game for sure but it's usually nowhere near this egregious
@nhoffman0677
@nhoffman0677 Ай бұрын
Kyle Schwarber going off on Angel Hernandez is still one my favorite moments in baseball history.
@zadtheinhaler
@zadtheinhaler Ай бұрын
One of the all-time greatest vents.
@abeartheycallFozzy
@abeartheycallFozzy Ай бұрын
For both sides!
@kelliesugai-dahl1294
@kelliesugai-dahl1294 Ай бұрын
The commentary makes it great 😁
@ronmo671
@ronmo671 Ай бұрын
It's just bad Angel
@louiseubank9371
@louiseubank9371 Ай бұрын
@@ronmo671 You have to be better, you have to
@brandonrupp5880
@brandonrupp5880 Ай бұрын
Dude... "You're not professional"???? Are you kidding? Your absolutely killing it. I've learned more about baseball in the last 3 years from your videos than the previous 37 just watching the game and listening to professional commentary.
@Cruncherss
@Cruncherss 29 күн бұрын
You're not wrong the only reason I came back to baseball cause of jomboy lol
@gordoeinstein
@gordoeinstein 28 күн бұрын
Humor is next level as well. Narrates himself... "I'm gonna take a sip of my coffee."
@hubble2625
@hubble2625 Ай бұрын
Home plate is 17” wide, to be off by 6.78” gives you an error of 39.88%. Tell me another job that lets you have nearly 40% error, 3 times in a row?
@codykline8613
@codykline8613 Ай бұрын
Welcome to the Union!
@ThatGuyOnYoutube2
@ThatGuyOnYoutube2 Ай бұрын
Politics
@Justin_Kipper
@Justin_Kipper Ай бұрын
Weather forecasters
@FaustoTheBoozehound
@FaustoTheBoozehound Ай бұрын
Crypto trader
@xhappybunnyx
@xhappybunnyx Ай бұрын
I'd go so far as to argue that measuring from the centerline, your max acceptable strike distance would be 8.5" out so if you call one 6.78" off the edge (or 8.5 + 6.78 = 15.28" off centerline), you can up that error % to: (Estimated - Actual) / Actual = (15.28 - 8.5) / 8.5 = 6.78 / 8.5 = 79.8%
@nbgav
@nbgav Ай бұрын
The 1.4 means 1.4 feet from the middle of the plate
@pierrelevasseur2701
@pierrelevasseur2701 Ай бұрын
Unless my math is wrong, that's 8 inches outside. Unacceptable.
@Felix.Dragon.
@Felix.Dragon. Ай бұрын
​@@pierrelevasseur2701yep. By my count that's 8.3 inches outside of the zone
@dabearsfan9
@dabearsfan9 Ай бұрын
@@Felix.Dragon. a little less cuz you’d have the radius of the ball to take into account. Unless that’s already accounted for idk. But either way it’s baffling how this is allowed to continue when you look at the tech they have in cricket, football, tennis etc
@Felix.Dragon.
@Felix.Dragon. Ай бұрын
@@dabearsfan9 you're right I hadn't considered the ball.
@cnking27
@cnking27 Ай бұрын
@@pierrelevasseur2701 it's 8.3 inches at the center of the ball, 6.8 from the inside edge of the ball (what umpire auditor reported)
@coryhorton5837
@coryhorton5837 Ай бұрын
I think the ultimate irony will be branding the robo umps as, “Angels,” come to save baseball.
@JedidiahBertram
@JedidiahBertram Ай бұрын
Just my two cents on the whole monopoly thing: What is happening is what always happens when these sorts of acquisitions are made / empires are built. It starts with some positive stories about "Oh, they're being so nice and improving things", but then when the job is done that turns quickly. It becomes obvious that those positives were there to facilitate a means to an end. A very pre-determined end. Monopolies are always a bad thing, and the whole "one baseball" thing is pretty scary and not good. Otherwise... pitch challenge needs to be implemented in MLB ASAP exactly as it is in the minors, and your point about the umpire adjustment is super valid and great forward thinking.
@cnking27
@cnking27 Ай бұрын
It will absolutely be used to crush the union and return things to the way they were, but possibly worse, with even less competition between minor league clubs. It can't be good for the major league affiliates for all of their farm teams to be owned by the same people as their competitors', either.
@BlueSkyCrystals
@BlueSkyCrystals 19 күн бұрын
The enshittification of the minor leagues.
@trevor5834
@trevor5834 Ай бұрын
Sport media goofball-ish guy by day, hardcore baseball data analyst by night. I like it
@darthmartinez
@darthmartinez Ай бұрын
I see Angel Hernandez performance and think maybe I could be an umpire too like Leslie Neilson in the naked gun when he was undercover just making calls up to make the crowd cheer.
@ryanmcwilliams8784
@ryanmcwilliams8784 Ай бұрын
Maybe both teams for angel Hernández games when he’s the home plate umpire, both teams refuse to take the field and protest the game because he’s terrible. Maybe it’ll work. Maybe not. Might as well try. The worst you’ll get is maybe a forfeit the game.
@wyomingptt
@wyomingptt Ай бұрын
Sounds like a dumb idea to me but why not.
@ryanmcwilliams8784
@ryanmcwilliams8784 Ай бұрын
@@wyomingptt it’s basically the same thing as a worker strike. Game starts both managers go out together and protest the game. We aren’t playing with no ump.
@lytsongaming
@lytsongaming Ай бұрын
Early enough in the season might not matter in the long run, might be worth it.
@thepaperbowser
@thepaperbowser Ай бұрын
You don't have enough faith in Angel. He can make game-ruining calls from every umping position, not just behind the plate.
@ryanmcwilliams8784
@ryanmcwilliams8784 Ай бұрын
@@thepaperbowser you’re not wrong there lol but at least it wouldn’t be every single pitch
@ravenlunatic1168
@ravenlunatic1168 Ай бұрын
We need a Jomboy HotOnes episode. 🙏
@karlcarlsburg9641
@karlcarlsburg9641 Ай бұрын
I think that would be one of their worst performing videos for views...
@ravenlunatic1168
@ravenlunatic1168 Ай бұрын
@@karlcarlsburg9641 ok... good talk. Have a great day.
@xhappybunnyx
@xhappybunnyx Ай бұрын
Nahhh Jomboy's best at being a conduit between sports and the "at least semi interested in sports" crowd. He is a beautiful lens through which to view sports events; not something we need to inspect on its own (imo) As much as I'd poop myself and immediately watch if one did come out lol
@ravenlunatic1168
@ravenlunatic1168 Ай бұрын
@@xhappybunnyx I was mostly kidding, but would 💯 watch that episode
@lionheartz1337
@lionheartz1337 Ай бұрын
The only fucking explanation for this is that Angel is only looking at where the catchers glove is after he makes the catch. Theres no way hes watching the ball and missing them THIS badly
@dommerdom
@dommerdom Ай бұрын
He just doesn't pay attention during the game.
@Mr.MimeisFrench
@Mr.MimeisFrench Ай бұрын
He's like a thumb headed cop on a power trip..Can't ever admit wrongdoing
@khure711
@khure711 Ай бұрын
He flinches at the pitches. Previous jomboy videos have pointed out him closing his eyes.
@xhappybunnyx
@xhappybunnyx Ай бұрын
Angel: Uhhh duh? That's where the ball ends up, soooo....
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 Ай бұрын
Only if you're being kind. Let's be real, Angel is probably high and guessing.
@IndyBallNation
@IndyBallNation Ай бұрын
I'm happy to chat with y'all about Diamond Baseball Holdings, "One Baseball", and the sketchy stuff MLB has been doing all the way into the indy ball aka Partner League area, I've been telling this story for a couple years now. Happy to give y'all some background.
@n_a8917
@n_a8917 Ай бұрын
you got a video about it on your channel? im fascinated.
@FaustoTheBoozehound
@FaustoTheBoozehound Ай бұрын
Replying to boost. Would love to get some insider info.
@n_a8917
@n_a8917 Ай бұрын
@@FaustoTheBoozehound same man. I never knew about this and I can only suspect an end game that’s less than altruistic
@Droosie3
@Droosie3 Ай бұрын
​​@@n_a8917KZfaqr "The Touchback" has a series on the MiLB takeover.
@IndyBallNation
@IndyBallNation Ай бұрын
@@n_a8917 Hey! I haven't posted on my own channel about it yet, since it only recently started overlapping with what I actually cover, but this channel I found called The Touchback just did a video that's the best I've seen on the issue to this point: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abCSpa2E2Z2pinU.htmlsi=wgAwUAH9eYViB1xp Diamond Baseball Holdings comes in during the latter half of the video
@FriendlyKillbot
@FriendlyKillbot Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the live use of stats here. Would love to see some more dedicated content in the same vein as your "Worst Calls" segment.
@sc0ff
@sc0ff Ай бұрын
I love and fully support your twin pitches hobby. Also, thank you so much for walking us through how to use baseball savant. You should produce a tutorial series.
@thisshyboy
@thisshyboy 2 күн бұрын
Jimmy, I’ve been a fan of you and your work for the past four years, and would just like to say that your humility is utterly refreshing. The warmth and sincerity of your personality shines through in everything you do. Thank you for your continued contributions to the world of sports.
@jameslmarsh
@jameslmarsh Ай бұрын
PLEASE just put a green light/red light indicator in the umps' masks to get balls and strikes right. It really impacts the game and the best pitchers/best hitters shouldn't be hurt because of good control or a good eye. I still want the ump to convey balls and strikes, just with the level of accuracy modern technology already gives me on TV.
@ObscuraDeCapra
@ObscuraDeCapra Ай бұрын
"Did they play a home and away?" Yeah, for some reason MLB decided that the Rangers and Astros should play each other SEVEN TIMES in the first fifteen games on the season.
@iand25
@iand25 2 күн бұрын
watching you nerd out on baseball details is the best content you make. great video
@user-rl5je6bu6n
@user-rl5je6bu6n 25 күн бұрын
Jomboy- “my job is evaluating video/stats all day so to break the monotony, in my spare time I search for video/stat profiles that are doppelgängers of each other but have different names.” God bless ya, Jomboy.
@twoshirts1842
@twoshirts1842 Ай бұрын
Jimmy, you're looking happy and healthy, brother. 1:20 dude Conan killed hot ones.
@ExileOnDaytonStreet
@ExileOnDaytonStreet Ай бұрын
How would Jimmy (and/or Jake) do on Hot Ones, I wonder?
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Ай бұрын
Oh nice, you showed a sample of the ABS/challenge system. I think it's great. Doesn't take much time, and you often see how close some of the calls are. When the pitch misses, it even shows everyone by how much. The fun part is that we get a spoiler in the press box since the Hawkeye graphic shows up in real time. (We can also see the times when they should have challenged.) Also, whenever a call is upheld, I always want the umpire to do some little Frank Drebin/Savannah Bananas thing. "The strike call is upheld... IN YO' FACE!"
@aidanheath8546
@aidanheath8546 29 күн бұрын
These have become my favorite thing Jomboy Media has been putting out recently. These are so informational and entertaining!
@timlett99
@timlett99 Ай бұрын
That Peterson to Maile one might be the worst I've seen even though it statistically isn't. The ump was legit closer to the batters ass than the plate with a lefty pitcher lmao you legit can't get any further away from the pitch than that ump
@pezboy715
@pezboy715 Ай бұрын
“I’m bad at math.” 3:45 “An *eighth* of a…. 🤷🏻‍♂️” You gotta respect a man who recognizes his weaknesses openly lol, love Jomboy
@SP.007
@SP.007 Ай бұрын
During the statcast era, Which pitchers has gotten the most strikes called, when it's actually a ball. Which Batter has gotten the most strikes called, it's actually a ball. Which pitcher has gotten the most balls called, when it was actually a strike Which batter has gotten the most balls called, when it was actually a strike.
@cnking27
@cnking27 Ай бұрын
I think the answer to the second one is Aaron Judge, Foolish Bailey did a video on this on his channel a while back. Umps struggle to adjust to his height and make wrong calls on low pitches to him a lot. I'd be curious about the first one though.
@laurenvieira1223
@laurenvieira1223 Ай бұрын
Jimmy!! Congratulations to all of you on the new partnership! I'm not sure why this is, but i may never have watched talkin' baseball before even though I've seen everything else you do. (baggage breakdowns and geoguessr baby!!) But sometimes with sports, because I'm still learning, I look for the sports people who chit chat one on one with me and examine situations with curiosity. Just a chit chat about Angel and doing a bunch of different "tests" on the internet. If the new partnership made it so that this talkin baseball and podcast "format" was my first recommendation on my home feed suddenly, that's a good partnership.
@bladactania
@bladactania 28 күн бұрын
My Favorite Jomboy stuff is pitch analysis. Comparing pitches, pitch sequences, etc. Great stuff!
@HealeyBrianT
@HealeyBrianT Ай бұрын
Channeling his inner Eric Gregg on those calls
@robertjaime6772
@robertjaime6772 Ай бұрын
Can we get fans league wide to protest Angel Hernandez please ?
@nicholashalom1632
@nicholashalom1632 28 күн бұрын
That may be the only way to ditch him, as sadly you can't boycott his games as they don't announce what games an umpire calls pregame do to gambling issues.
@charmew
@charmew 2 күн бұрын
Bro I love the stat digging. Really enjoyed seeing your base line process and then where you take your research from there. So much fun!
@kaiyotech
@kaiyotech Ай бұрын
I'm shocked to hear that Angel Hernandez is bad at calling balls and strikes. Shocked I say.
@davetbrunner
@davetbrunner Ай бұрын
The system shown in AAA is awesome, exactly like pro tennis! Pivotal questions are answered within seconds
@MacKenzie1399
@MacKenzie1399 Ай бұрын
it’s NEVER a good thing when a single entity owns all of a specific thing. that’s my philosophy
@Camaroofdeth
@Camaroofdeth Ай бұрын
I absolutely love these "how I find out stuff" videos.
@GavinNikel11
@GavinNikel11 Ай бұрын
Love your work, Jimmy!!
@generallukeproductions
@generallukeproductions Ай бұрын
Wyatt Langford has been getting calls like this all year. It’s like the umps never give the benefit of the doubt to rookies
@WilsonTexasRager
@WilsonTexasRager Ай бұрын
Seems that way. He also takes them fairly well also.
@cherylcochran3820
@cherylcochran3820 Ай бұрын
That pitch challenge will be the best thing that would happen to the MLB, it will negate outrageous calls and frustration from batters
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Ай бұрын
For sure. I think batters (and probably hitting coaches and fans, for that matter) forget how large the strike zone actually is. People think it's the size of the plate, but it's actually about three inches larger because the center of the ball can be outside the zone and still be a strike.
@joepermenter7228
@joepermenter7228 Ай бұрын
Never gonna happen because seeing a manager/player tossed is something everyone wants to see. They already eliminated human error for double plays, fair balls etc. They know sports fans thrive on the rage that umps ignite. Hernandez is probably just a patsy in a bigger scheme given his tenure.
@pjbuma13
@pjbuma13 Ай бұрын
Could cut ejections down quite a bit too.
@ejflor1313
@ejflor1313 Ай бұрын
It’s ridiculous. Just use robo-calls and skip the middle step.
@jayrussell26
@jayrussell26 Ай бұрын
Really cool analysis, Jomboy. Question (maybe someone knows): would this analysis only show outside pitches to RH batters ? I guess to add worst call on outside pitches to LH batters , need to do repeat exercise w min_plate < .8 etc ?
@dannyhawkeye1412
@dannyhawkeye1412 Ай бұрын
The outro question of "is this happening more to my team than other teams" really resonates with me as a Mariners fan... The Event in Question : Consistently losing games we should be winning on paper. The Answer After Analysis : Yes.
@bryanfouts287
@bryanfouts287 Ай бұрын
Nice shout out to Conan that was an amazing ep
@leroyapplegate5049
@leroyapplegate5049 Ай бұрын
I think the Angel Hernandez decades long shit show is baseball’s biggest unsolved mystery. There has to be something else that we just don’t know about this guy.
@exactlywhatisaid
@exactlywhatisaid Ай бұрын
he has the pee tape
@FaustoTheBoozehound
@FaustoTheBoozehound Ай бұрын
He's actually Kennesaw Mountain Landis's long-lost grandson
@xhappybunnyx
@xhappybunnyx Ай бұрын
*spongebob rainbow handwave* unionssss
@cancerstinks1
@cancerstinks1 Ай бұрын
At this point he has to be doing it on purpose.
@ShadowWizard123
@ShadowWizard123 Ай бұрын
Its called a Union
@j66gv
@j66gv Ай бұрын
The Palencia high pitch you have to remember was after hours of a rain delay on a Sunday night in an 8-1 game with 1 out in the 9th. That ump clearly just wanted to go home and was calling anything close a strike.
@joey2beers
@joey2beers 25 күн бұрын
I love “jimmy’s 3 things”. Keep it up man it’s one of my favorites
@j1562
@j1562 Ай бұрын
I interviewed for a data tracking job for the former Rome Braves affiliate (they rebranded to the Emperors) and they wanted to pay me $10hr. Idk if fair pay is something that can be validated past that article.
@jeff4son
@jeff4son Ай бұрын
The new Robo umpire system should be called. A - Autonomous N - Neutral G - Game E - Enhancement L - Logic Or A - Accurate N - Networked G - Geometric E - Evaluation L - Lens
@stevekeeling9700
@stevekeeling9700 28 күн бұрын
Worst call in history??? You’ve never seen Eric Gregg video behind the plate for Marlins vs. Braves!!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7hjmK5mzKmnmIE.htmlsi=VhDKvLSU2dNgcMor
@chazmanlyroe
@chazmanlyroe 28 күн бұрын
I was planning on skimming thru this episode, and before I knew it, it was over...Good stuff jomboy, keep up the good work.
@tri-c5737
@tri-c5737 Ай бұрын
Jimmy coming to the realization that Wyatt got fucked on almost the same pitch a week prior was a cathartic experience as a Rangers fan. I feel like I've been going crazy, kid has been getting fucked by the umps all year, it's so weird to watch. His zone just seems bigger than everyone else in the lineup.
@KillroyWasHere86
@KillroyWasHere86 Ай бұрын
Angle finally did it. He got his name and incredible in the same sentence.
@LeutenantObvious
@LeutenantObvious 20 күн бұрын
I went to see my local triple A team twice last week and there were a couple of challenges to pitches, the system worked amazingly fast and really helped make it feel like all the calls were fair and correct. I’ve been a fan of robo umps in the past but the challenge system feels like the best way to do it. It keeps the spirit of the game and helps make everything more accurate
@jameshennessey8956
@jameshennessey8956 28 күн бұрын
oh shit! it's been a long time since I've seen any Jomboy video. Just been on audio. Lookin good Jimmy!
@brianwilson73
@brianwilson73 Ай бұрын
Why do most umps insist on setting up pre-pitch anywhere but over the middle of the plate? It drives me nuts.
@willowbrook2717
@willowbrook2717 Ай бұрын
You're new to officiating aren't you. So here's some help. Umpires are trained to work from the slot because one can see the ball better. Also, foul balls that go straight back will not hit them. Go ahead and umpire directly over the catcher's head if he's set up over the middle of the plate and see how well that goes.
@brianwilson73
@brianwilson73 Ай бұрын
@@willowbrook2717: Well, okay. I guess you told me, didn't you?
@saintbeesechurger2800
@saintbeesechurger2800 Ай бұрын
@@willowbrook2717Google Pat Hoberg. He does literally exactly what you are describing right now and guess what? He’s the best ump in the game. You old head dipshits are ruining the sport and it’ll be a blessing when the automated ball/strike system fixes this.
@blahblah49000
@blahblah49000 Ай бұрын
@@willowbrook2717 Verticality of calls might be worse, but horizontally it should be much better if umpires consistently set up in the middle of the plate.
@dstedy
@dstedy Ай бұрын
@@brianwilson73 get rekt
@JihadMeAtHelllo
@JihadMeAtHelllo Ай бұрын
Crazy how there are at least 28 home plate umpires, yet it's the same 2 or 3 (typically Angel) that are constantly blowing game changing calls
@kylethomas7467
@kylethomas7467 29 күн бұрын
at least 28? I guess that's right. MLB has 70 umpires and it really is just a few outliers.
@stevenlindberg8347
@stevenlindberg8347 28 күн бұрын
Don't forget about cb Buckner he isn't far behind angel
@JihadMeAtHelllo
@JihadMeAtHelllo 28 күн бұрын
@@stevenlindberg8347 wow, he's still around? How?! He was a known for being a terrible ump when I was a kid and now my kids are adults.
@stevenlindberg8347
@stevenlindberg8347 28 күн бұрын
@@JihadMeAtHelllo oh yeah just saw him making bad calls a couple days ago got to see him take a pitch off the face mask that dazed him normally I wouldn't wish that to happen to someone but have heard at least angel is a nice guy but Buckner has a history of also being an asshole
@MrBurrito18
@MrBurrito18 Ай бұрын
Angel is great for baseball, just as Joe West was. Fans and teams need a common enemy
@JackChiefton
@JackChiefton Ай бұрын
Oddly I agree with this sentiment. The human element in baseball is why makes it great. Whether good or bad characters…
@Arassar
@Arassar Ай бұрын
No way. Umpires should umpire, not make themselves into the story. There are plenty of stories about players out there for people to root for or against.
@isaac_marcus
@isaac_marcus Ай бұрын
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@CapnChillV
@CapnChillV Ай бұрын
Jimmy, this is why my love for baseball shines above the others. This wealth of data and you also appreciating why it’s so amazing.
@Josh-mu7qy
@Josh-mu7qy Ай бұрын
These analytics breakdowns you're doing every week are awesome.
@pretzelhunt
@pretzelhunt Ай бұрын
Angel Hernandez is to baseball what Trump is to American Democracy..
@nkm6789
@nkm6789 Ай бұрын
Love this series
@milkisspicy5840
@milkisspicy5840 Ай бұрын
Not huge into baseball but love stats and this is fascinating. Subbed
@chengshuyan4311
@chengshuyan4311 Ай бұрын
Very interesting video. Please keep up your good work.
@DuckOfRubber
@DuckOfRubber Ай бұрын
You may be able to find isolated examples of umpires making worse calls than Angel, but how many of them do it as consistently as Angel?
@duewhit310
@duewhit310 Ай бұрын
The chalk of the batters box is part of the strike zone 😁
@SamKhoury
@SamKhoury 12 күн бұрын
FYI, to get the video full screen, just click the icon with diagonal arrows or the icon that looks like a frame in the lower right corner of the video. ESC key will exit out of full screen mode.
@curtismann6851
@curtismann6851 Ай бұрын
Thank God there isnt video replay of my work and someone like jomboy analyzing it. lol.
@drewyoung2157
@drewyoung2157 28 күн бұрын
Regarding the first part: 1.4 would presumably feet be off the center of the plate. Strike zone was calculated at
@michaeldesrosier1068
@michaeldesrosier1068 28 күн бұрын
Jimmy really briefly mentioned old school umps basing their ball/strike calls on everything but the actual pitch, I would love to see that explored more. I recently went back and watched a bunch of games from the late 2000s and definitely got this impression. Basically if the pitcher hit the glove where the catcher was set up, youre getting a strike no matter what. Jonathan Lucroy gamed this for like an entire season, where he would just set up 6 inches outside the strike zone and as a result steal strikes at a huge rate. Same thing but in reverse for when they miss their spot, you could miss dead center in the strike zone, but if the catcher had to reach for it, ball.
@bbyowll4562
@bbyowll4562 Ай бұрын
Something you touched on before that I'd love to see a deeper dive into is pitches seen per at-bat. Is there a correlation to batting success there? What sort of value does an at-bat grinder create?
@joseferrer3819
@joseferrer3819 Ай бұрын
I work as a consulting intermediary and spoke with the CSO (chief strategy officer) of Diamond Baseball Holdings-formerly a senior executive at Live Nation-and it sounded as though the intentions behind their aggressive acquisitions is to genuinely invest into the local culture of baseball and make it the epicenter of small towns.
@BaseballRoman
@BaseballRoman Ай бұрын
Absolutely love Adam getting a shoutout on Jomboy
@carlosalbertogonzalezgayta6510
@carlosalbertogonzalezgayta6510 Ай бұрын
Great show Jomboy!!! Loved it! 🔝
@bcuniverse_
@bcuniverse_ Ай бұрын
The minor league thing is weird because some people have no issue but diamond holdings literally stole my local Mississippi braves and moved them to Georgia, while still being named the Mississippi braves.
@DanielHensley-1996
@DanielHensley-1996 29 күн бұрын
Was clicking around on baseball reference and found an interesting stat that I feel like you could could do an interesting deep dive on and find others easily and make it fun. Fact the last HR that Jake Arrieta gave up was the last HR that Buster Posey on the same pitch
@MK-zm8vl
@MK-zm8vl 28 күн бұрын
When a pitch comes across home plate at an angle the way these do, should the graphic on the screen light up before it hits the catchers glove? Isn't a ball or strike determined by where the ball crosses the front plane of homeplate? Not back where the ball is caught??
@GerritCoulter
@GerritCoulter 28 күн бұрын
We need something like this show on JM Football.
@user-mu9wt5yu4d
@user-mu9wt5yu4d 29 күн бұрын
Jomboy, Have they changed the strike zone? It use to be be at the letters of the shirt, and now it looks like it is just above the belt. Did I miss something? Just asking. Love your page. Bill.
@Johnny-Lawn
@Johnny-Lawn Ай бұрын
Game 2 of Braves Phillies this season. Max fried threw strike 3 damn near down the middle of the box and umpire called it a ball…. He didn’t make it threw the first inning after that
@SchroederN8
@SchroederN8 Ай бұрын
Eric Gregg in the playoffs vs the Braves has at least 7 of the top 10 worst punch outs of all time.
@pjloschkejr
@pjloschkejr Ай бұрын
Not defending Angel but I haven’t seen one person mention this fact since this game. The strike zone is 3-D. We’re only seeing and measuring the ball distance from home plate AFTER it hits the catchers glove. This pitcher is throwing a pitch that is going right to left. Maybe from Angel’s perspective it’s catching the front corner of the strike zone as it doesn’t matter where the pitch ends up. Same is true for example, a curveball that gets buried in the dirt by the time it gets to the catcher. It can still be a strike as long it passed through the zone. These pitches look awful though for sure and likely still missed the zone based on how far they ended up outside but likely not as much as what’s being measured and put out publicly. I’m all for the pitch challenge being implemented immediately and for long term sake not renewing ump’s contracts until the union concedes to some sort of system of sending these bad umps down and calling up younger umps to give them a chance
@woodroez
@woodroez Ай бұрын
One thing statcast can do that Jimmy doesn't show here is that it does track the entire trajectory of the pitch. I looked that Langford pitch up that night and checked out the 3d track. That pitch was a cutter, so a fastball with a little movement away from the hitter. I agree with you regarding what Angel might have *thought* he saw, but a more active umpire would have seen that ball left the strike zone before it was even over the dirt around home plate, let alone at the strike zone.
@dstedy
@dstedy Ай бұрын
nobody is mentioning the 3D zone because it's so far off the plate it never sniffed the zone. Weak excuse for the worst ump in history who somehow has tenure.
@p179
@p179 Ай бұрын
You are correct sir. Very late break and 2 of those 3 pitches may have caught the plate
@poika22
@poika22 27 күн бұрын
The measurement is from when it hits the front plane of the plate, not when it reaches the cather's mitt.
@alkshy8350
@alkshy8350 28 күн бұрын
I would like to see a deep dive on how days off affects players, I was watching the braves game and they were talking about the duvall/kelenic platoon. kelenic was playing after 3 days off and went like 0/4 with 3 K's. The braves were also complaining about the NLDS against the phillies last year and how the days off were bad for them. It made me curious if days off were actually bad for players, or maybe good because of rest days. could look at platoons/all star break/playoff break/etc.. for data.
@THE-CHAMPION-HAS-A-NAME
@THE-CHAMPION-HAS-A-NAME Ай бұрын
Angel just out there guessing. I should set up a petition for a live stream eye exam on Angel hernandez 😂😂
@samtremblaybelzile
@samtremblaybelzile 29 күн бұрын
For the twin pitches, I wonder how much of that is an overlap in the respective break ranges of the pitches more than the actual pitches being the same. One pitcher's cutter may have a median break of a certain value, and another's slider may have a very different median break, but those two may overlap on opposite sides of their respective ranges. So when you find "twin pitches", it would be interesting to then compare all of the cutters from that one pitcher to all of the sliders from the other one to see what the break distributions look like. Are they really always similar, or are they mostly different with rare cases of overlap?
@jeremymcinturff985
@jeremymcinturff985 17 күн бұрын
@9:38 Something that I've noticed about Francisco Alvarez since he got called up, the dude is a master at stealing strikes. No matter how far out of the zone he catches the ball, he will quickly move his glove back over the plate to fool the umpire. More often than not, he gets that strike called.
@deucedeuce333
@deucedeuce333 28 күн бұрын
Hey giving Adam a shoutout.(MLB the show streamer) He's the one who asked for the Rizzo overlay.
@paullentz1972
@paullentz1972 23 күн бұрын
Check Game 6 of The 1997 NLCS between The Braves and Marlins...where home plate umpire Eric 'Im in a hurry to hit The Hometown Buffet' Gregg basically gifted Marlins' pitcher Livan Hernandez 16 strikeouts. Some of those pitches were literally a foot off the plate. Gregg and Angel H. are indeed two of The Worst Umps in the history of MLB.
@KdotLINE
@KdotLINE 27 күн бұрын
Curious - Is there a limit to the amount of challenges a team/pitcher gets on the ABS?
@lavs8696
@lavs8696 Ай бұрын
The strike challenge system is basically like in tennis when they challenge the out/in call
@solidstate90
@solidstate90 27 күн бұрын
I have been impressed with the job John Libka has done, I was watching him call Reds - Mariners the other day and it reminded of a game I watched him call last year for the Mariners, where basically every pitch that the tracker showed in the zone he called correctly and vice versa for pitches out of the zone. Doing a bit of google-fu I did find some clips from '20 where called some strikes that where way out of the zone, I'm curious what exactly he did to get so much better.
@Twheak
@Twheak Ай бұрын
Huge fan of the twin pitches segment, scratches the nerdy part of my baseball brain
@ScottDavisFisch
@ScottDavisFisch 28 күн бұрын
On April 17, Jay’s vs New York. There were multiple pitches that were almost 7” off the plate.
@jacksonjenkins7901
@jacksonjenkins7901 28 күн бұрын
Hey Jimmy I think something interesting to look into at least would be the rangers making their opponent produce errors. For some reason that happens a lot. I noticed that in the rays post season series and this last series where we just played the tigers. Idk if it’s a thing but would be something interesting to look into.
@jbridendolph1559
@jbridendolph1559 Ай бұрын
Angel Hernandez/CB Buckner are by far the worst umpires in decades. But the worst call? I know hyperbole works to get clicks, but Eric Gregg’s entire 1997 NLCS Game 5 was the worst called game ever, with strike calls individually being worse than Angel’s calls behind the plate. Worst individual call ever that had actual consequences (not an 8-1 game in April), is Don Denkinger safe call at first base that would have rightly won the 85 World Series for the Cardinals. As a result it led to the Royals coming back to win Game 6 and then winning the series in seven. Regardless of hyperbole, keep up the great analysis Jomboy. Love your baseball content.
@rjcollectssets1839
@rjcollectssets1839 Ай бұрын
Glad someone else remembers Eric Greg’s performance. Angel has nothing on that.
@tommyl4953
@tommyl4953 Ай бұрын
Idk, but you can tell the strike tracker is showing where the catcher caught the ball rather than where it crossed the plane, which is at least a foot or 2 behind the plane, right? So it could be possible that some of those are strikes when the ball is right above the plate.
@ocoop
@ocoop 29 күн бұрын
is there a noticeable difference in how catchers frame pitches when the umps have the traditional over shoulder stance vs when it’s the modern era move with the catcher stance?
@Poppywoppy416
@Poppywoppy416 Ай бұрын
I like the ability to challenge balls and strikes, but it seems to me that the zone doesn't change with the batter. If u have a short batter, it looks the same as a tall batter. What I think they need to implement is like markings on the jersey so that they can track the height of the batter and change it. I also want to add that the challenging makes it 2d, not 3d, which the zone should be.
@mupi6069
@mupi6069 2 күн бұрын
Pls more video of him, even if you have to repeat the same info that already has been made, do it again, I'll watch it with heart
@bobmarinaro1594
@bobmarinaro1594 27 күн бұрын
I have had several coaches and umpires state that positioning - like Angel and others do - over the catcher's shoulder nearest the batter decreases their accuracy in calling the outside pitch. can you research that on the stats machine?
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