🔥 "PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAUSED VAR!!" 😡 Simon, Danny & Jim GO OFF!

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Simon Jordan, Danny Murphy & Jim White don't hold back in their bickering about VAR! Simon points the finger at Danny and other members of football media for being responsible for VAR's introduction. But Danny stands his ground in why he's so against the technology and its effect on fans & players experiences.
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@RiyadhCurrie Жыл бұрын

Jim, the only person who will ask 50 questions and not allow the person to respond.

@jsuswaram Жыл бұрын

😂

@daneholding Жыл бұрын

He needs to pipe down and listen more

@smitherinho1753 Жыл бұрын

Seems so out of touch and when people don’t agree with him, he doesn’t let them respond or explain and then just goes “nope you’re wrong”

@temporaryuseraccount0012 Жыл бұрын

Wind up merchant.

@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын

Jim was the biggest fan boi to bring it in , 🤡🤡🤡

@deeppocketsshortarms2830 Жыл бұрын

Jim White slowly becoming Piers Morgan at talksport.

@asherneyland8950 Жыл бұрын

Piers can make his own arguments, Simon makes Jim’s

@deeppocketsshortarms2830 Жыл бұрын

@Asher Neyland yeah true I'm thinking about adjetating every one who's in studio with him

@asherneyland8950 Жыл бұрын

@@deeppocketsshortarms2830 ye true, he’s a bit spineless he sides with whatever SJ says

@ElizabethTurver Жыл бұрын

Such an annoying man.

@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын

Turtleneck Piers. Wanna-be Ten Haag/Pep

@axeman14 Жыл бұрын

Jim: “What do you think about that Danny?” Danny: “Well….” Jim: “Why won’t you answer Danny?” Danny: “Well…” Jim: “Come on Danny you don’t know what to say!” Danny: “Well I…” Jim: “There you have it Danny doesn’t know what to say!”

@swingingmonk Жыл бұрын

That's brilliant! 😂

@edwardvanniekerk2774 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes (a lot of the time) Jim is completely insufferable 🤣

@trevorjoneill707 Жыл бұрын

most of the time

@bertieyoung3827 Жыл бұрын

I can assure you hes insufferable full stop, a total knob.

@800Viffer Жыл бұрын

"Sometimes (a lot of the time)" is superfluous imo

@panchopuskas1 Жыл бұрын

Here's a tip for Simon and Jim : just let Danny put more than 2 words together before interrupting him......

@anthonyarnold9176 Жыл бұрын

It happens all the time. The more respectful the guest, the more we hear rhetoric shouted loudly over the top of them. Imagine adults acting like 5 year olds and bring paid for it.

@khylelewis Жыл бұрын

3:18?

@michaelwallden7261 Жыл бұрын

good point

@Nathan-sc7hs Жыл бұрын

they have an agenda they've been told to push/endorse. And it ain't just about soundbites and clickbait... generating talksport revenue from "controversy" and fake arguments either. In the end, we don't know why var was brought in, nor why it is being (mis-)used the way it is.... i do however have my suspicions.

@markchapman2933 Жыл бұрын

Tbh Danny seemed to be interrupting just as often.

@gooner72 Жыл бұрын

It would be nice if Simon and Jim would actually allow Danny to answer these accusations that they lay at his feet... 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

@anthonyarnold9176 Жыл бұрын

Or answer the questions he put to them. Narrative pushers. 💤

@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын

Jim & Simon complete planks , VAR fan boi

@hotdog9262 Жыл бұрын

danny is brighter and wiser then both of them. gotta love when the guy who talks least makes most sense

@asmo2183 Жыл бұрын

@@hotdog9262 Except he is not though. Danny doesn't even know what critical thinking is. He is just spewing yer da talk.

@hotdog9262 Жыл бұрын

@@asmo2183 what would critical thinking be. he is speaking from the perspective of an ex professional and shares his honest opinions

@paulc7956 Жыл бұрын

Jim: What's your 3-point plan then Danny? Danny: Explains point 1 Jim: OK now you're Howard Webb. What's the first thing you do?

@DadReadsBooks Жыл бұрын

Fair play to Danny for not losing his cool. He played the game, lived it, was at the receiving end of bad decisions and isn't allowed to answer questions fully. Getting laughed at and belittled.

@100hurley Жыл бұрын

Painful discussion. Well done Danny Murphy.

@paulpurves484 Жыл бұрын

Well said, two against one is never easy

@TheChampIsHere_ Жыл бұрын

Danny murphy is bang on here, simon jordans take on this was embarrassing

@BennyEggs... Жыл бұрын

I’m with Danny

@happyapple4269 Жыл бұрын

@@paulpurves484 jim is devils advocate and simon made very valid points.

@paulpurves484 Жыл бұрын

@@happyapple4269 Jim definitely wasn’t playing devils advocate I thought he was actually quite unpleasant towards Danny.

@grassfret Жыл бұрын

Why do they keep pushing VAR "getting more right than it gets wrong"? If I did 100 tasks at work, got 51 right and 49 wrong, I'd be sacked. Getting more right than wrong is not a measure of success.

@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын

Bur they got more wrong without var ya big clown

@shauncrossey8184 Жыл бұрын

Well it is actually a measure of success. Those numbers you’ve chosen are quite poor. If you do 3 tasks and get 2 right and 1 wrong what happens there? If a team gets to 92 finals and wins 50 and loses 42, that suggests to me that they’re still a hell of a team and have loads of success in that competition. You can’t just choose numbers to suit your opinion on it. I’ve only done it to counter your argument

@grassfret Жыл бұрын

@@shauncrossey8184 I've not chosen numbers to suit any argument, but to simply say VAR has been a success because it gets more right than wrong is ridiculous. The minimum to get more right than wrong would be 51%, which I'm pretty sure everyone would agree would be a terrible record. If they were saying "VAR gets X number more decisions correct than no VAR" then that would be a valid defence, but they're not.

@shauncrossey8184 Жыл бұрын

@@grassfret well we don’t know the percentages do we, because nobody counts it, because in essence, nobody cares. was never going to be 100% right anyway, but it’s clearly iover 50%, which, I agree isn’t great. But it’s not terrible either is it? Clearly room for improvement, which I’m sure will be sorted

@grassfret Жыл бұрын

@@shauncrossey8184 you're missing the point, whether it is over 50% or not isn't what they or I am saying. My point is that the statement that Jim and Simon keep repeating is nonsense. "VAR gets more right than it gets wrong" is not the brilliant defence of VAR they seem to think it is.

@scottemmerson807 Жыл бұрын

Big fan of Danny Murphy and his measured perspective.

@happyapple4269 Жыл бұрын

Even though he is wrong.

@joemiles3447 Жыл бұрын

@@happyapple4269you’re wrong you cretin

@rocharoch Жыл бұрын

When Simon was trying to explain his “ruler” analogy n Danny says “you know we’re on radio”. Shut down 😂

@johnclegg4993 Жыл бұрын

Not quite correct though, they are on KZfaq also, which is visual, i was expecting Simon to comeback with that, doh.

@willtg1993 Жыл бұрын

If danny could speak it would be a miracle.

@tobiathon80 Жыл бұрын

If Danny could think it would be a miracle.

@Lesnixonlive Жыл бұрын

+The only time Danny finished a sentence is when Jim played a recording

@larrydavid1070 Жыл бұрын

Jim dont know what he thinks till Simon tells him and refuses to let people answer

@waynebelton5445 Жыл бұрын

Nothing worse than listening to someone asking a question, then the same person talking over the person trying to answer it. And SJ just thinking he knows everything.

@michaellord2844 Жыл бұрын

Jim taking this somewhat personal, lets face it, when he was on SSN he was pressing the NEED for VAR to come into the sport every shift. Certain media companies had their rhetoric and we all know the technology just isnt good enough, neither are the folks operating it.

@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын

I remember in late 2017 when many fans were wanting video refs in the sport, every comment I saw whenever there was a bad decision said "we need video technology"

@philbarton2832 Жыл бұрын

How is it not good enough?

@lukebradford6234 Жыл бұрын

jims self righteous smirk is hilarious 😂

@Pintheshadows Жыл бұрын

This is the Mike, Jay, and Rich of football punditry.

@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын

Jim is a complete 🤡🤡🤡 he was the biggest fan boi ,, football was entertainment this radio show is 💯 pathetic

@jat1994 Жыл бұрын

I’d smack him in his mouth

@jat1994 Жыл бұрын

I’d smack him in his mouth

@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын

He's got a very punchable face.

@tjiss7094 Жыл бұрын

Danny was brilliant. Articulated his argument eloquently

@batmanmartin496 Жыл бұрын

I have to admit I was with Danny on this one. Simon blaming the media and yet can't realize he is right there amongst it as part of the media!

@Nathan-sc7hs Жыл бұрын

@@batmanmartin496 bit like trump claiming he was an outsider lol similar degree of self-importance and pomposity shared too. "look at ma big words!"

@markchapman2933 Жыл бұрын

Danny complaining of goals being ruled out for being an inch offside was just plain daft.

@49undefeated49 Жыл бұрын

I'm a 52 year watcher and attender of football matches in England and VAR, for me has destroyed our game. I can't enjoy my team scoring now and the excitement has gone. Yes, I used to get miffed at replays showing offside (before VAR), but I would have that back in a heartbeat! If VAR stays, our game is dead, as it leaves the game open to corruption and game fixing!

@stevesalkas9128 Жыл бұрын

Maybe your team didn't score fake goal var to stay

@JinNOSify Жыл бұрын

Danny first thought Simon was on his side before, Simon reminded him he's not 😂😂

@MW92. Жыл бұрын

Simon = top LAD proper clobber The side of truth

@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын

@@MW92. Not in this case.

@nicholasbolas Жыл бұрын

I get why Danny's getting cooked... but let's applaud him for being spontaneous. The likes of Souness and Keown would have gotten triggered. And maybe that's why we haven't seen Graeme since LMAO

@petebodom Жыл бұрын

Pliz remove Danny n Abonglahor from Talksport

@David-mi3il Жыл бұрын

@@petebodom bringing Danny Murphy down to Agbonlahor level, come on

@childofchief2290 Жыл бұрын

You can have sympathy for a ref in real time not being able to get a call right. You can't with a man with endless replays who still can't get offsides, penalties, red cards right.

@michaeldodds2722 10 ай бұрын

And when it takes several minutes to come to the wrong decision......

@nickmail7604 Жыл бұрын

Danny is bang on with this subject.

@SS-iy5zo Жыл бұрын

Poor guys can’t cope with Danny’s common sense. The other two creating Danny’s argument (straw man) and saying he’s wrong.

@patrik5333 Жыл бұрын

Did Simon just give a shout out to Judge Dredd?😂😂 This guy.

@michaelwilliams4454 Жыл бұрын

People saying it’s adds drama and makes it more exciting etc are fans who sit at home and watch the game. When your in the stadium and it’s freezing and like old Trafford have no big screen you have no idea what’s going on. Also I agree with Danny since var when u celebrate there’s always a slight holdback in case it’s ruled out, even if somebody smashes in a 30 yard rocket your thinking was someone in the way for it to be ruled out. I say scrap it and people need to accept mistakes from refs/linesman

@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын

I totally agree. When at a stadium it hardly adds to the excitement, it is boring and incredibly frustrating indeed for the crowd.

@inserter400 Жыл бұрын

👏 👏 👏 Well said agree with you 💯 % !

@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын

But fans won't accept it. They lost their minds for over 20 years since football was on telly. Every ref was wrong. Fans just moan non stop unless it benefits their teams.

@buster9168 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinkilbane2007 Fans been moaning about refs since football began in the 19th century and still do, so won't make any difference.

@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinkilbane2007 get rid of the refs or var quite simple

@jtbkilmartin9110 Жыл бұрын

I am no fan of Danny Murphy but I agreed with a lot of what he said. The spectacle of football is worse because of the ridiculous forensic analysis on offsides and /or the VAR room chiming in on incidents in an inconsistent manner. Originally I wanted VAR to remove goal/no goal like Lampard for England or the Spurs goal against MUFC. Every single time football is slowed down it heads towards American football which for me is not why I watch it. For the record I also agree with Simon that VAR gets more right than wrong. Maybe speed of decision making is the key?

@UrbanKizBeast Жыл бұрын

'Well you can't polish Turds can ya!' OMG that was such a brilliant call. I was on the floor dying 🤣🤣🤣

@tmvincent90 Жыл бұрын

Go to minute 4.38 , Simon gives Danny a wink cause he knows there arguments / debate makes for good listen

@dawitsco9283 Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@bjornlang9480 Жыл бұрын

ALL HAVE OVERLORDS. DONE FOR MONEY NOT TO INFORM.

@jamesoneill5070 Жыл бұрын

If you put it as 4:38 it will jump there when you click on the number. Clicking the dots on the right allow you to edit your comment.

@gooner72 Жыл бұрын

What wink? Danny was reacting to Jim bringing up a statement that he made previously......🙄

@nicholasbolas Жыл бұрын

@@gooner72 Look at 4:36 instead.

@tonyshortland8812 Жыл бұрын

When var was first discussed, it was to stop errors that were "clear and obviouse". It has evolved into a phorensic analysis of every goal. My answer is to allow referees to referee the game, each Captain will be allowed one or two challenges, if the referee was correct, a challenge is lost, similar tennis, where the system seems to work well.

@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, if it takes several minutes at a match in order to pore over the minutiae then it is not ‘clear and obvious.’

@mikewazowski6292 Жыл бұрын

Actually a class idea this, shame the Premier league and its refs are absolute clowns

@pzee9732 Жыл бұрын

Spot on good idea

@yellowknight97 Жыл бұрын

American Football does the same. Great idea. One often argued how accurate is offside technology when the moment of impact is impossible to gauge on a TV screen AND the millimeters of where an arm, shoulder, head, or leg is is questionable... Any decision that is millimeter close should asshats be given to the offensive team. Similar to the "tie goes to the runner" rule in American baseball.

@Goady1000 Жыл бұрын

Except when you've used your tow decisions the other team will make a red card tackle buy only get a yellow

@levibeattie2621 Жыл бұрын

Jim was never this much of a knob on sky 😂

@ljp4618 Жыл бұрын

Do a vote on TS and see how many ppl who work at TS would vote to keep it in!!! Jim and Simon are the only 2 ppl at TS who want to keep it!! Might as well work for the TalkTV

@Noticer-in-chief Жыл бұрын

The Premier League half-arsed the implementation of VAR from the get go. When VAR debuted at a World Cup, the biggest stage in football, it went off almost without a hitch. One of the defining things about the implementation by FIFA was in allowing the on-field ref to go and take a look at the screen and decide for himself, much like TMO in Rugby will ask the on-field ref to take a look at something. What the Premier League did in the beginning was to limit the opportunity of the ref to take a look on the screen which did more to undermine the refs. Aside from offside which is an objective issue, everything other decision should reside solely with the on-field ref. VAR should not be making decisions, only advising the ref to take another look. And for God's sake mic them up so we can hear what they're saying and how they justify and reason their decisions.

@benmackay3573 Жыл бұрын

The main issue is that in rugby the on field referee doesn't get told to look at the screen, he will request what he wants to see in collaboration with the tmo BUT THE ON FIELD REF IS IN CHARGE. The tmo can't undermine him. Then there's also the fact they show it on the screen for the entire stadium as opposed to just the viewers at home. Them nobody is left out.

@-The-Darkside Жыл бұрын

I said at the beginning the refs were sabotaging it and I still feel that way

@Kentishsaxon Жыл бұрын

jim is just the scottish jeremy vine

@curls9032 Жыл бұрын

That's is spot on fella. He plays dumb and throws muck around.

@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын

That’s spot on both Cu….. Nts , Jim was the biggest VAR fan boi complete 🤡🤡🤡 Simon & Jim know nowt

@andypandy4607 Жыл бұрын

Still think Jeremy vine is worse

@-The-Darkside Жыл бұрын

Jim and Simon are the new chuckle brothers

@ihaveaidsish Жыл бұрын

Well done Murphy! Two against one and you handled it like a boss.

@donaldduck5553 11 ай бұрын

Simon is right though pundits like Danny Murphy are the reason it’s there in the first place

@dj22jamesy 11 ай бұрын

They tried to do this to Souness... bad move! Mr Souness won it with one arm tied behind his back. White & Jordan always pick on Danny and Martin Mckeown, but White holds back to let Simon get first dibs at them. If it's not going as planned, White splatters his breeks.

@donaldduck5553 11 ай бұрын

@@dj22jamesy souness went off the show he couldn’t handle been called out for things

@jasonpearce4995 Жыл бұрын

Good discussion well done danny

@spud-652 Жыл бұрын

Danny is correct, VARs killed the excitement!

@clew6519 Жыл бұрын

only solution is fully automated or allow managers to challenge calls in real time like NBA or NFL. Just accept the change.

@InBodWeTrust Жыл бұрын

Simon's comment re. the referee calling for VAR (rather than VAR calling the ref) is bang on ... this is essentially what happens in rugby, where the ref. calls the TMO to confirm (or otherwise) the on-field decision. (Yes, there are a small number of times when the TMO will alert the ref to something they may have missed, but this is the exception rather than the norm).

@gunneronfire Жыл бұрын

100 plus mins these days and they get it wrong as well.

@yakedup Жыл бұрын

The refs would get hounded by the players and managers, the game would grind to a halt

@paulmartin9194 Жыл бұрын

I was always under that impression. I thought VAR was brought in just as a visual aid to the ref if they requested it when they weren't sure regarding a decision??

@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын

I usually agree with Simon but in this occasion I agree with Danny, especially when it comes to the offside by a toe

@magikarpsplashy Жыл бұрын

But Danny is wrong about offside. The law states that a toe is offside, so until they change the law, then VAR is correct to rule those goals out. That's like saying the speeding law was introduced to stop people driving at 50mph on residential streets so you can't pull me over for doing 32 🤷‍♂️

@adam.677 Жыл бұрын

@Magikarp Splashy shut up you GOON 😂

@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын

@@magikarpsplashy what are you talking about? How does that make him wrong?? Before VAR when was anyone flagged for being offside by a toe😂😂?! Never, and making road speed analogies to offsides in football makes you sound like an even bigger twat😆

@magikarpsplashy Жыл бұрын

@Campbell Moffat and they wrong not to flag. Look up what the offside rule says and then you'll understand why you're wrong. And I'd rather be a twat that's correct than a great guy that's a pillock 😁

@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын

@@magikarpsplashy you arent correct though😂 Before VAR nobody had ever been flagged offside by a toe, how could they have had that down as a rule when technology wasn't as good even 5year ago otherwise we would have had VAR a long time ago, anyone that has played football at any level growing up, especially as a striker learned how to bend the run playing of the shoulder, etc and there needing to be in front of the player by at least a full arm and leg, etc never a toe so you can talk about what the rules say all you want that isn't the topic of discussion here it's about VAR decisions being ridiculous and Danny said how stupid that rule is so all you are doing is repeating yourself about a rule that was only introduced with the VAR technology not before and everyone including footballers agrees how stupid it is and it should be changed back to before with that rule obviously you haven't played the game at any level because nobody that has would make a ridiculous statement like what you have just made🤭

@krisblacksa Жыл бұрын

Jim going “Scrap it” took me

@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын

Jim sticks up for his mate far to much.

@bringinitdown. Жыл бұрын

it's getting disgusting.

@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын

@@bringinitdown. It reminds me of when I was a young lad who got loved up by an older woman.

@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Жыл бұрын

Huge Simon Jordan fan but Danny Murphy in the right here, let him answer 🤦‍♂️

@paulonvula6495 Жыл бұрын

I'm with Danny 100%! The millimeters offside calls are excruciating to see. It's getting worse. Give the advantage to the attacking player, it's been like that, the advantage used to go to the attacking player now it favors the defender, the attacking player will always lean forward, hence, advance few inches forward.

@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын

I felt psg offside 82 min goal was a joke toe offside come on

@dannylad1600 Жыл бұрын

I've always said this, just give the benefit of the doubt to the attcking player. Often we see really good goals getting ruled out because some guys sleeve was offside. Its killng the game.

@markchapman2933 Жыл бұрын

If a goal is not ruled out for being "millimetres offside" Paulo, then how far offside must a player be before he is offside? It must be the same for every match, every team, every player. Therefore the line has to be drawn somewhere which means wherever it is drawn "millimetres" over that line will be enough to be offside.

@paulonvula6495 Жыл бұрын

@@markchapman2933 Just the fact that the conceding team don't even complain the legitimacy of the goal says it all. It's true that offside is offside, but the forensic analysis in every goal scored is ridiculous, if that's the case then they should also have to look at every session of the play for a possible offside offense, not only when a goal is scored. It's not good for football when you see referees doing their best just to disallow a goal, they are looking for every tiny details just to rule it out and it's ruining the game. The technology was never about the toe, shoulder, armpit, forehead inches offsides; it was for the "clear and obvious" errors, meaning, the blatant errors that somehow the referees didn't spot or ruled very incorrectly which these offside calls are not. For there to be an offside both feet/heels of the attacking player has to be completely forward in relation to last defending player, the way it is now it's creating lazy defending and inhibiting the whole process and art of attacking. As if it's not already too difficult teams will now have to find for even more creative ways to score a goal just to ensure it doesn't go the surgery room (VAR) to see if it lives or dies

@gettobythesea Жыл бұрын

Don’t mention the var!

@mikeunsworth775 Жыл бұрын

I mentioned it once but I think I got away with alright!

@gar651527 Жыл бұрын

Brill 🤣

@burnaardnufc3173 Жыл бұрын

Will you stop talking about the var.

@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын

Well Germany started it!

@nixkreed2183 Жыл бұрын

5:07 That smirk from Simon

@krankieboolean1340 Жыл бұрын

Goal line technology worked a treat. The problem with VAR is that it does not focus on the clear and obvious mistakes - instead it tries to microanalyze everything.

@ZaydDepaor Жыл бұрын

No, that was the start of this foolishness...if goal line then why not other things too? The difference between winning and losing is not whether something crossed the line or not...a team can also lose due to a wrong throw-in, a wrong offside, an undetected foul, a dive etc....As soon as you start messing with the simplicity and fluidity of the game you are chipping away at it.

@Samw8484 Жыл бұрын

The only problem I have with VAR is these silly offsides where the attackers toe is just in front of the defender it's ridiculous! They should change the rules and give the attacker the benefit of the doubt if the offside decision is to close to call with the naked eye. It really is that simple!

@user-ys7eg8ev7f Жыл бұрын

I don’t care anymore about how right the decision is and the subjective decisions still not getting it right. They could get 100% of all decisions right and I’d still hate it. Purely because of disallowed goals, and not being positive a goal is a goal until a minute or 2 later. Absolutely ruined everything we loved about football. We live for our team hitting the back of the net and celebrating. Barely celebrate goals anymore. VAR is awful when you’re a matchday goer.. football is dead 😭

@bryancarpenter7131 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct Danny

@WaniZame Жыл бұрын

Simon roasted Danny on the problem with football punditry here. There would be no VAR if ex footballers didn’t want to keep to hammering ref decisions for dollar on tv.

@TheWrightTimes Жыл бұрын

That pause to see if the goal stands spoils the moment of celebration for players and fans

@mrkaosboxinguk1054 Жыл бұрын

Let Danny speak ffs!!

@MichaelPaton8 Жыл бұрын

Jim was insufferable in this one. Give Danny a chance to reply

@Tom-ws2zx Жыл бұрын

He’s insufferable on a daily basis lol

@SamuelMitchell-pm9uq Жыл бұрын

Simon is such a wind up and Jim absolutely loves it haha. It’s great to watch / listen to even if they aren’t always right. Very entertaining

@800Viffer Жыл бұрын

It is spelt "a n n o y I n g" iirc

@joelthomson8697 Жыл бұрын

The whole reason all of these people have jobs is because football is a globally popular leisure activity and form of entertainment. Danny was trying to make that point several times but wasn't allowed to get a word in.

@2xAcTiOnXJaCkS0nx Жыл бұрын

I think we all watch for different reasons...for me the entertainment comes from the jeopardy of the game not celebrating goals adding a wait after goals are scored is more jeopardy not less...I like VAR...so who died and elected Danielle here the entertainment expert?

@100SC Жыл бұрын

At least let the man talk

@walter8679 Жыл бұрын

My three points to fix it. 1 have Webb lead it. 2 mic all the refs for the stadium and fans can hear decisions. 3 have interviews for reffs after games to hold them accountable

@eggyfart4738 Жыл бұрын

Can you get me the 4th pint please Walter, Peroni please pal

@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын

How about you become ref since you know it all

@walter8679 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinkilbane2007 so your ok with around 5 terrible calls every weekend that hugely affect the outcome of games and has everyone talking about the calls instead of the games all week? and don't want an explanation on it your just ok with statements like "sorry we got it wrong this week" when its every week? this is what you want in football?

@ireneugeba5282 Жыл бұрын

One of the reasons for VAR was the, Maradona "hand of God" goal, for example VAR has changed the football in a way I didn't expect, example, the centimeter offside decisions. This is a great argument. Danny has great points. Simon also. This is an important topic in football, today.

@abdulssewanyana Жыл бұрын

The sarcasm and pride in that studio was top notch.

@chibifirestorm Жыл бұрын

it's not VAR it's the fact that PL officials aren't fit for purpose, VAR works fine in other leagues

@danielcogbill104 Жыл бұрын

Danny’s point about football being entertainment is absolutely spot on. Now when a goal is scored first thing in my mind is that the VAR bods are franticly running back through 30 seconds of play to find something to rule out the goal. If you are followed by the police for long enough, they will find a broken brake light.

@SnowMan-qp7gc Жыл бұрын

Simon always believes he knows beyond everyone and would never allow you to speak whilst he talks above you .... unbelievable

@sprinter1832 Жыл бұрын

Snow Man He's a Narcissist, loves himself, and never allows anyone to speak! Danny was correct, and Posh Boi was an absolute 🤡 Pity about the Crystal Palace job Simon, not over it yet???? PMSL!!!

@SnowMan-qp7gc Жыл бұрын

@@sprinter1832 Murphy was absolutely right but am sad that Jim is a puppet and has always been cos he wants views for his show with the presence of Jordan... he didn't back Murphy when Jordan was shutting the man down

@christopherwayne6275 Жыл бұрын

Simon hes just sounds like a Noisy exuast on wind up like hes in Courts Var Has been a joke Simon Must be drinking something

@SnowMan-qp7gc Жыл бұрын

@@christopherwayne6275 😂 😂

@jesus8772 Жыл бұрын

Sorry but Jim White is the biggest muppet going

@JC-ip8ur Жыл бұрын

I dont understand how he still hosts a show hes a moron

@Rapanior Жыл бұрын

slow sports news

@MW92. Жыл бұрын

Jim ‘leftist’ white

@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын

Jimbo trying hard to join up The Jordanite Club Association, but we have refused his letter.

@truthshallprevail9832 Жыл бұрын

Danny is spot on for once. Var is needed however, it should need a lot of improvement and therefore should not have entered football with all these glaring problems. Refs will always get slack and that's part and parcel of football, with or without technology.

@monkeytennis8861 Жыл бұрын

He talks himself into knots

@qwertkings1893 Жыл бұрын

It’s not var it’s the refs making the decisions, the same refs who are making mistakes with a video replay are the ones you guys want to trust ref a game without mistakes.

@jimhuf8102 Жыл бұрын

Problems started when football media went from being 10 minutes at the end of the news, to 24/7 Channels and stations that need content,

@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын

Ref watch on sky sports is a joke. Too many fans are experts but don't even know the laws of the game

@askido351 Жыл бұрын

They are getting it wrong on a video replay technology. That's mental

@Goady1000 Жыл бұрын

The fans going to the game (all who matter as Danny rightly said) are not for var.

@paulsmickersbangor Жыл бұрын

Can't believe I'm actually with Danny on most of this

@800Viffer Жыл бұрын

White and Jordan love the sound of their own voices.

@DerekTJ Жыл бұрын

What aren't counted are the instances where VAR don't even look at.

@mueey1 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved that clip... see what happens when you are allowed to debate rather than just throw insults at someone they don't agree with. Both had valid points and neither scored points yet both opinions were heard and listened to albeit with Jim interrupting 🤣 . Me personally VAR has made the referee on the pitch act like a scared little child afraid to make a decision incase he looks like a twit on the big screen, but then it doesn't help when the ones looking at the screen can't help the guy that's making the initial decision in the first place. Scrap the offside scrutiny of an armpit or hair offside give the advantage back to the attacker make the criteria be if its a whole foot in front of the defender or the full shoulder or a part of the chest then call offside otherwise advantage to the attacker for his momentum stuff like that then it will be quicker to make decisions. VAR has taken away common sense literally by refs not thinking basic common sense.

@josephtaylor6346 Жыл бұрын

Hey Danny! I feel for you going up against these 2! They act like politicians. You should watch some Rugby games while the six nations is on and watch how well they manage and communicate with players! THIS IS HOW FOOTBALL GAMES NEED TO B REFEREED

@gasservenw1369 Жыл бұрын

The offside rule should be changed and made easier for everyone. In my opinion, there are only 3 options. 1) Get rid of the offside rule 2) Use automatic offside technology or 3) offside sounds be when there is daylight between the attacker and the defender

@abrupt_oliver 7 ай бұрын

Rules need to be overhauled to take into consideration the video referee. Noone wants an offside decision/disallowed goal for a toenail thats offside by 1mm.

@fredthered73 Жыл бұрын

also repect to danny keeping his cool ,as simon does seem a a bit directive towards danny

@curls9032 Жыл бұрын

His jealousy is fierce, he doesn't like the fact the guys on MOTD have all done good things in the game, and takes it out on Danny.

@andypandy4607 Жыл бұрын

Joe cole and Rio Ferdinand: "be angry Danny!"

@kostaoliveric8299 Жыл бұрын

Well done Danny! 100% on your side.

@barrylynch5066 Жыл бұрын

Simon is correct. If people like Danny constantly criticise referees then there will always be huge pressure to add technology to help referees.

@bamburestaurant663 Жыл бұрын

Even Danny is an outsider when he disagrees with the hosts,Jim listens to Simon and cuts Danny off anytime he try’s to make a point It’s a show that I love but all should be heard,I especially like Danny and his thoughts and find it frustrating to see

@lozbarns8235 Жыл бұрын

Open the mics like other sports and use the pitchside screen more !!

@mikethomas4423 Жыл бұрын

I think the issue with this might be lower leagues can't afford the big screens and technology required

@josephhall5136 Жыл бұрын

Even bringing in ex players won't help. Depends what generation they are from, and they'll still have to go by a guideline and rules. And what they see and what we see will always cause a stir. VAR was the last nail in the coffin that changed it from a game to a business.

@danm9297 Жыл бұрын

I don't particularly like Simon but this is SO true. The first thing pundits talk about is ref decisions, moaning about them, even if a team has been hammered for 90 mins.

@powerfulme5190 Жыл бұрын

I say you double the linesman on the side of the field and allow more open communication between the refs and the linesman like in rugby. In rugby the linesman has a chance to state what they’ve seen and then from that the ref can make the final call. You double the linesman so each linesman gets a quarter of a field. Makes it easier to manage aswell

@zakmccarroll123 Жыл бұрын

Danny is spot on with he point VAR has ruined the love for football

@mariusschulz2926 Жыл бұрын

Those 3 keep Talksport relevant! 👍✌️

@footballoldboy4818 Жыл бұрын

When Mark Cueto put the ball down in the 2007 rugby WC final, a 50/50 call which was disallowed and cost England the trophy, 2 things were notable: 1) opposition fans were sat together and not a single fight or disagreement happened in the crowd. 2) the England coach said it was a tough call that he understood The problem isn't mistakes or VAR. It is the moaning about it. Managers should accept decisions because without referees there are no games. Referees are 'Sir' and the captain only speaks to him. Any argument costs 10 yards and any moaning after the fact gets a touchline ban. If you want perfect decisions, watch chess. Accept that refs and VAR use best endeavors and suck it up buttercup. And if you can't watch a game in a mixed fan end, leave. Too many idiots involved in the game. Rugby fans are just as passionate. Just about respect.

@adamgreen3217 Жыл бұрын

Jim you are obnoxious! Danny deserves a medal to put up with the pair of bully's! Well done Danny, a true legend

@charliefarleyy169 Жыл бұрын

As an Arsenal fan. Teams like us, City and Liverpool would get screwed for playing high lines and would have so many goals go against us due to offsides not being called correctly

@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын

I hate var since it came in

@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын

@@andrewwright4195 VAR is a POS.

@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын

@@CB-xr1eg not in any way they get worse every year jack pen was a joke so was arsenal pen got nowhere to go

@clew6519 Жыл бұрын

Simon, "guys like you" includes you

@user-fk8mm2qt7d Жыл бұрын

When there's a clearance on the line, notice that nobody is up in arms or annoyed at the decision because the answer is instantaneous. What needs to happen is that automated offsides and automated foul detection needs to brought on. You'll have the decision straight away and nobody will complain.

@jte3643 Жыл бұрын

I love how Simon constantly bleets on about "the media" when he is one of the loudest voices in British sports MEDIA.

@xbriskx Жыл бұрын

I don't care the experience, I just want the right decision.

@acenmitch1048 Жыл бұрын

You clearly never been to a football match live then

@xbriskx Жыл бұрын

@@acenmitch1048 Yeah clearly, if the opposite team won 4-0 and all goals shouldn't have been allowed, you would have preferred this because play wasn't interrupted lol?

@acenmitch1048 Жыл бұрын

@@xbriskx that’s not real life mate. It’s the complex decisions which they always get wrong that take 5 mins. Also 0 explanation to the crowd who paid £30+ for the experience. Compared to the plastic fans watching on TV

@xbriskx Жыл бұрын

@@acenmitch1048 Nothing wrong with VAR itself then, just the idiots who use it, Howard Webb will sort it out.

@SuperYannick63 Жыл бұрын

I don’t like Danny’s take on “everything got worse since var is in place”. But look at what a hypocrite Jim is. He prepares to go for Danny playing his comments on 4:30. Or at 4:55-5:19. “It’s too ridiculous for words to suggest it…You talk about nonsense coming out of our months” Nr. 2: Why was it brought…what was brought in…ehhh let me think…var Wtf Jim man grow up. I like how Simon tries to see it in a more neutral way after Jim taking his position before hand concerning Jim vs Simon’s discussion at the beginning.

@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын

And the smirk that you'd like to punch off his face.

@jimboweller3 Жыл бұрын

Simon and Danny actually have an interesting debate. Danny is very cool headed and articulate, Simon, at least forwards the argument and makes intelligent points, It's a fair point to make that. The only reason we var there in the first place is because everybody in the media was moaning about referees. That bald guy in the middle. However his lights are on but he is clearly not listening

@tessiocapone586 Жыл бұрын

Bang out of order on Danny Murphy! Jim and Simon ganged up on him and even cherry picked their arguments! Had that tape on the ready to play! Danny was caught in the headlights! They also do this to Martin Keown

@vincentmogojwa2483 Жыл бұрын

Used to think Simon is just someone that likes arguing! But I was wrong, this man has wisdom.

@Denchanter Жыл бұрын

Bet you like Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan

@embisonjones4996 Жыл бұрын

@@Denchanter - Simon is miles better than those two idiots. There’s substance in Simon’s argument.

@Denchanter Жыл бұрын

@@embisonjones4996 😂

@jsuswaram Жыл бұрын

Danny is the Kevin De Bruyne of TalkSport ("Let me speak") 😁

@andretirta9801 Жыл бұрын

by listening to talkSPORT now I have increased my vocabulary, yesterday I learned about pontificate, today vociferous, thanks

@cartner90 Жыл бұрын

Good argument. Danny and Simon both made good points. Personally, I’m with Danny that the entertainment and elation is worse and/or taken away with VAR. P.S. I hate when Jim piles on one of the two people he’s with. Prefer him as a mediator.