I want to demystify these sorts of drone concepts all the way down to the actual implementation. Did seeing the code help, or bore you?
@martijnknol869010 ай бұрын
It was super interesting to see the code! Makes it all more clear and interesting :)
@bradleybauer104110 ай бұрын
Seeing the code was helpful, thanks!
@moochasas10 ай бұрын
Love seeing the code..... it takes a while for me to understand it.... never boring... I have spent hrs and hrs on your projects.
@RizHassan10 ай бұрын
This was a well thought out application challenges/educational video; however, I cannot help to think if you had simply added two rudders behind the motor thrust-line so regardless of the flight mode you had same control inputs. Any thoughts?
@tomtom918410 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I need to learn to code though.
@nacorti10 ай бұрын
This is probably the most cogent explanation I've seen about tailsitter flight dynamics. Breaking down the problems one step at a time, plus not being afraid to show code, makes this super easy to understand. Excited to see your next build!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Hearing this gives me the awesome feeling of "mission accomplished", thanks a ton!
@nacorti10 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm 🫡 Least I can do when my latest bicopter is powered by dRehmFlight!
@cory88410 ай бұрын
Seeing each step was fantastic! I'm especially impressed he was willing to fly all of the intermediate steps that he knew were going to fail. It's so easy to just think through these problems and skip to what you assume is the finished solution, but actually testing the physical response of using a binary transition or not changing the forward flight gains really drives the lesson home.
@mikegofton110 ай бұрын
"Hey look, it's RC test flight"😀. Great explanation of the transition problem.
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
this video actually took work to make and offers something unique. all RC test flight does anymore is drive around in a boat.
@aerialcombat10 ай бұрын
@@dronefootage2778inaccurate
@noatreiman10 ай бұрын
@@dronefootage2778tbh tho im still here for the boat stuff (i started watching in like 2017 for the solar plane project 🤩)
@GeahkBurchill10 ай бұрын
@@dronefootage2778I’m wondering where your great output of high effort work is?
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
@@GeahkBurchill i just watch youtube
@isaacbrewer561610 ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting to make a tailsitter for a while now! Great video!!! Keep it up!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hope this inspires you to follow through with it
@farkhodkhikmatov473810 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehmwhat parameters on ardupilot should we pay attention to in order to smooth and tune our quad tailsitters? Please let me know!
@andresmonagas766210 ай бұрын
The fact that you give such a good explanation into how and why you did things, makes this video to be into a whole other level. It passes from being an entertainment video to be a super good educational video + still being fun to watch. I'm exited to see the next project.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@BloodyMobile10 ай бұрын
This is the most impressive "unimpressive" piece of foam I've watched in a long while.
@Brian-S10 ай бұрын
Yep, I think it's time to breakout the drehmflight board again and play with it some more! You really have made something special here with your software and videos. I appreciate you taking the time to share this stuff with the world
@flomojo2u10 ай бұрын
Nice! It's always cool to see people who are able to do physical design/builds, complemented with coding skills to solve both problem domains. Really looking forward to your large, folding design!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hoping to have that one flying any day now
@irkedoff10 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehmI hope it goes well!
@smacksille195110 ай бұрын
so smart that you put a timeline on yr advertisement.. I watched the whole ad rather than clicking ahead, because I knew the length.
@irkedoff10 ай бұрын
Thank you for adding the code in the video. It helps me to understand. I can't wait to see the next video.
@crashfactory10 ай бұрын
fabulous video. i really like the progression: stepping through each problem on the path one at a time, and placing the viewer in the mode of expecting each change to be the last one, but then exposing the remaining issues to address
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Hey thanks! It was a fun process to work through and I'm happy I could share
@knight90710 ай бұрын
The only thing your “unimpressive piece of foam” needs to be my dream aircraft is a camera, vtx, and code that pivots the camera mount 90 degrees during flight mode transition. Your next project looks absolutely stunning! I can’t wait to see it! Thanks again for all your hard work and for sharing it with us. 🙏
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
That sounds like it would be a sweet setup. Check out my buddy peter's mini-qbit for something eerily similar kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZakp8uBuLTSgnk.html
@knight90710 ай бұрын
I suppose a second camera and a PWM-controlled switch would be about the same weight as a servo and linkage, with less mechanical complexity. If the camera switch signal was sent as part of the flight mode transition function, it would make the transition even simpler. Thanks for the video suggestion. 👍
@TheEragoon2 ай бұрын
So you basically need 2 FC profiles, different PID values, reference orientation & controls. Neat! Also, the fade part is smart!
@k.o.010 ай бұрын
Great technical overview! I purchased Horizon Hobbies Xvert 5 years ago. Great VTOL and performs like your plane for transitions. This plane is a ton of fun to fly and very inexpensive. Keep it up! Love your videos.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Lots of fun tech packed into that plane!
@wearemany7310 ай бұрын
You make such brilliant, groundbreaking videos with some nice engineering work too. We’ll done Nicholas, another one in the can.👍
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@lasersbee10 ай бұрын
Well done... Flies and transitions much smother now.
@phpn9910 ай бұрын
You are brilliant. Everyone wants to see you build a single-seater VTOL machine capable of 1 or 2 hours of flight time, will essential avionics (com, nav, weather), and some safety features (enclosed blades or jet ; crash parachute...) ; plus a pivoting nacelle - that would be THE airborne motorcycle
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
That would be sweet
@Ma_X645 ай бұрын
Glad you was able to hear what I was screaming through the screen from the beginning of your video about you need a factor changing the weight of control and two different controllers for diffenent modes. :D
@bob285910 ай бұрын
That tease of a reconfiguring quad-to-fixed-wing looks VERY cool.
@robertstark332610 ай бұрын
Nicholas, your videos are great and this one is particularly excellent. That was a great demonstration of engineering synthesis and how to systematically go about solving multiple problems. It was great that you were able to show how the VTOL behaved under the various steps of the design process.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks for following along!
@SlowerBurrito10 ай бұрын
Amazing in-depth vid, thanks for inspiring others!!!
@clonkex10 ай бұрын
As a programmer, as soon as you had the violent transition working I was like, ok nice, the final step is just an easy lerp from hover to forward!
@andrewfleenor74598 ай бұрын
I get how a smooth transition between hover and forward flight is better, but dang that sharp transition looks kinda badass, too.
@EssGeeSee10 ай бұрын
Congratulations. Very impressive.
@JasonEsquivel10 ай бұрын
I don't recall how I stumbled upon this channel but I'm happy I did. The way you explained all that gibberish was impressive. Keep doing what you're doing!
@greatoak766110 ай бұрын
Hey, I know you aren't impressed with your "piece of foam", I am impressed. I've been trying to get a plane working but struggling with the balance because I have older, heavier equipment. Basically, another awesome job! Well done.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, keep at it with your project!
@taterbits10 ай бұрын
Bruh..... this science of yours seems a lot like magic 🤯 (nice work!)
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Hopefully a little less mysterious once its broken down!
@AerialWaviator10 ай бұрын
Flight dynamics and controls is such a challenging problem. So many important details! Great clear walk-thru of the basics leading up to achieving stable transitions. Being able to make reasonably smooth transitions to level flight without airspeed or angle of attack sensors is pretty amazing. The ultimate test would be to fly the tail sitter through a loop, or barrel roll ... involving transitions to hover at various points in the maneuver.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
That would be fun. Wish I had more time to dig a little deeper
@gyrogearloose134510 ай бұрын
Awesome work! Incredible what a single - very intelligent and hard-working - individual can do. Many thanks for the fun and inspiration.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@gyrogearloose134510 ай бұрын
No problema señor@@NicholasRehm. Keep up the good work!
@ZeJuggler10 ай бұрын
It's an interesting coincidence that the KZfaq silver play button and quadcopters both have 4 corners🤔👀 Great video, keep it up!
@PCBWay10 ай бұрын
This is so GOOD, Nick! 👍👍
@LanceCSTCuddy10 ай бұрын
Well that freaked me out. I was across the room listening to the end of the video and I hear (seeming to come from someone in the room) “hey look it’s RCTF” and of course the next thing I hear is Daniel’s voice as a video I had started yesterday auto-played. I was utterly confused for about five seconds. Well done lol
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
That's hilarious hahah
@grimtagnbag10 ай бұрын
Love how to showed the code and talked about how. Peeps leave out the details so thanks for the info cause I want to do this shit but I ain’t that so any info is awesome!!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
I made this video for curious people exactly like you 😄
@anonymous.youtuber10 ай бұрын
Very nice video ! Especially great that you let us in on the engineering process. ❤ this !
@turner3d110 ай бұрын
"unless you're an investor" 😂
@katanamd10 ай бұрын
This is an awesome project! I love things that are mechanically simple and reliable yet work really well. One thing I don't agree with is the "quadcopter" control layout when in hover mode. As an rc pilot with 30 years experience. My brain naturally would tell me to fly this plane shaped vehicle with an airplane control layout. Using the yaw stick to control yaw as if it was pointing straight up, and roll to twist around the vertical axis. This would also make the configuration much simpler.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Agreed, sometimes my brain confuses me too being primarily an airplane guy. Thanks for the comment!
@wsshambaugh10 ай бұрын
Not sure if you realized, but at the end with the scaling factor you reinvented “fuzzy logic control”
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
I guess you're kinda right!
@renatomsgomes10 ай бұрын
You have a great talent to explains things
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@iforce2d10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of something :) I was planning to try the gradual transition sometime, but using a little simple sin/cos scaling. Seems to me that the relation to gravity magnitude is what matters, and that does not change linearly with pitch angle.
@TitanTrigger10 ай бұрын
Maybe not gravity... It's true the gravity stays constant but I think the distinction is because regardless of pitch angle, air provides the same control authority from a control surface regardless of the direction that the plane is flying. Air gives the same resistance regardless of whether you fly up or sideways.
@RizHassan10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your next Tailsitter larger project.
@susheelkumarpippera787710 ай бұрын
dude, i always love your videos. Now they are getting funny too with your crazy humor😍🤩
@flack310 ай бұрын
Great project! Thanks for the video, Ill be waiting for more!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Hey thanks!
@morkovija10 ай бұрын
this is indeed the easiest way to transition. Cant wait for the big project!
@PalmliX10 ай бұрын
This would be a great way to get beginners flying.
@theoldknowledge677810 ай бұрын
Amazing video, thank you very much!!! Can't wait for the next one...
@moochasas10 ай бұрын
Perfect..... are you putting the raw code up like you did with the F35? This would be awesome to have... or is it documented somewhere. cheers
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
I think I'll be doing a write up on the rcgroups thread and I'll post it there--excited to see what you cook up! Hope you're doing well
@moochasas10 ай бұрын
That would be awesome....... I have tried a few tail sitters but nothing worked hence the excitement and comment.. Still flying the F35, made a few tweaks to the transition timing so its dialed in and does not dip down when going into FFF..... I have the Nemo set up ready just waiting to assemble the printed parts.. also have another teensy ready to be set up for a small F18...... I was wondering how big a plane you could use this board on as I have a few larger foamies that I want to try it on just for stabilisation.... as for me I just retired 3 months ago and we have been travelling and just relaxing..... if you want to see some of the plane stuff I have been doing since retiring feel free to check out my YTch ... I hope all is well there with you, stay safe and keep up the great work.. BTW I still check in the RCG thread to keep up with what is going on... cheers from downunder @@NicholasRehm
@JoeTaber10 ай бұрын
"The sensor fusion algorithm is not AI, unless you're an investor in which case it's definitely AI." 👏😂
@dempa310 ай бұрын
Very well explained! Outstanding! I'd like to fly a foam VTOL like this!
@JW-lp8oz3 ай бұрын
This tailSitter looks so much fun! I want to build one ❤ I found that you provide the final code over at Patron! You should totally rebundle this video as a build video, and market it as: a cheap sub 250 project you can build with your kids and have a great intro to programming 🎉 This is basically kiwico without the parts. And you buy working code by signing up for Patron 😊
@moochasas10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the arduino version added to the RCGroups page... now to sort the wiring out..... if you only knew the amount of times I tried to set up a tailsitter years ago using other flight controllers....this seems too simple to be true.... now to dust off a few old wings.... and print some more glue on motor mounts..... cheers
@0xBE7A10 ай бұрын
Really interesting video!
@sakarrc500110 ай бұрын
Thank you man! Great to do :)
@anantpandey603510 ай бұрын
great work
@goldbornmusic202510 ай бұрын
Awesome video, excellent well done.
@ilkoderez60110 ай бұрын
You have some AWESOME videos! Thank you!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Hey thanks!!
@matthewallen337510 ай бұрын
"trust me, I'm an engineer."😂
@JustInTime052510 ай бұрын
This is an awesome project and walkthru for the "hover to forward" flight problem, I followed your thoughts the whole way and it is so satisfying! One thing I'm not sure about is at 8:20, did you set the fade transition time on a fixed timer, or is it something else that's controlling/adjusting how fast or slow the fade phase should be? Thanks for answering my question and for creating such awesome content, keep up the amazing work!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
It's on a fixed "timer"--in reality it's just rate-limiting how much that variable can increment with each flight controller loop if that makes sense. I tune that increment size which directly corresponds to total time from 0 --> 1
@johgude504510 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm as your flight controller loop has a fixed frequency, a fixed rate also results in a fixed transition time... or where am i wrong?
@ryanellis438310 ай бұрын
This settles it, I'm making a Drehmflight FC PCB thats actually made properly. Last time I tried it really wasn't up to spec, but seeing what you can do with it tells me it's worth it to go again.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Check out @michaelrechtin's 3d printed quad project...he made a pretty sweet pcb breakout and I have a few on my desk now. Here is another someone made: github.com/joerenteria/dRehmFlight-PCB
@chuckraymond356410 ай бұрын
Do a short video on the hardware and programming environment you used for your development, Nice Video
@EricSampson10 ай бұрын
Great explanation
@tuberroot11123 ай бұрын
You could also call this one the aileron sitter. If I was doing this I may want a bit of stand-off so it was not actually landing on the control surfaces.
@jnicks10 ай бұрын
Love your videos. You're a great engineer.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@JinKee10 ай бұрын
I remember designs for carrier based tailsitters for the US navy in old popular mechanics magazines. Without fly-by-wire they would have been death traps.
@licencetoswill10 ай бұрын
great explanation, detailed and clear.
@user-pw5do6tu7i10 ай бұрын
great video.
@shiningirisheyes10 ай бұрын
From Ireland thanks
@senorjp2110 ай бұрын
Wow that works really well
@ltpinecone10 ай бұрын
So cool!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@6Twisted10 ай бұрын
If anyone would like to try designing and programming this in a game I recommend Main Assembly
@Tritone_b510 ай бұрын
I have built my own "tail sitter" I used iNAV in heading hold mode. I find the transition of roll to yaw and vice versa confusing, although given in my case, I don't need it to land in hover; given I have an advantage that my craft can do high alpha up to a hover. IMO the advantage to roll and yaw switching is in tilt rotors. Still a feat to do it all on your own code.
@bowmanzz110 ай бұрын
Where has this been all my life? I'm putting this control scheme in my AIM-7 for next years FF!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
YOU'RE THE SIDEWINDER GUY????
@bowmanzz110 ай бұрын
@NicholasRehm I had the big white missile, with the dual drone motors, it was technically an aim 7 sparrow
@martales856310 ай бұрын
best videos on youtube
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
best commenter on youtube
@pat_makes_stuff10 ай бұрын
the transition between hover and forward flight reminds me of the antagonist machines' movement in the Matrix...
@tuberroot11128 ай бұрын
The code is very clear and simple and well written. Thanks for making that available, it helps see how all this works. Have you done any more on the spinning 3-wing drone. I love the way it looks in straight flight. You left a teaser at the end of "part3" but I don't see anything since and that was a year ago.
@scott_aero391510 ай бұрын
Them gooses get everywhere....
@DomanStuff202210 ай бұрын
Very interesting. VTOLs are on my list for ages now... I did some contraptions years ago, but the electronics/hardware were a limiting factor, not now tho. Next thing, deciding on type of VTOL, less dead weight + less moving parts = grater efficiency... so this type looks very promising, but as usual, it got downsides... I'm very interested where are you going with this, keep us posted :-)
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Primary downside of this particular design is susceptibility to wind, further complicated by reliance on motor thrust for control authority (ask me about how easy it is to control while descending at low throttle….). I’ve got a design I’m cooking up that I think solves some of these issues at the expense of a little more mechanical complexity!
@DomanStuff202210 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm"little more mechanical complexity" - hhehhh, that's where problems and fun begins, good luck m8!
@MorningView10 ай бұрын
Vtol amazing. Great movie.
@TheBillzilla10 ай бұрын
A very informative video, many thanks.
@bonafide908510 ай бұрын
Your channel are so good that I unsubscribed and subscribed again! Nice project, keep them coming! Thank you!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Thanks!😁
@markifi8 ай бұрын
i liked the violent mode switch more it made a cool sound
@odifyltsaeb884610 ай бұрын
I wonder what happens if you use pitch input as a transition fader, for 90 deg pitch use all hover, for 0 deg pitch use all airplane control settings, and mix proportionally for all pitches in between. Maybe you won't even need a dedicated switch, but instead, push the stick forward to transition. I mean, remove the notion of two different modes altogether and use a single control law for both, blending two different control laws based on the current pitch?
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the ambiguities/singularities of euler angles complicates this
i am impressed man , pls tell us more about this nice piece of foam. :D
@adrianschmidt556410 ай бұрын
Now we can build the X-Wing.
@piconano10 ай бұрын
Loved the video. I just finished a project using the ESP32-S2. It was a big one. 1.1MB in Flash. I know even the ESP32-S3 doesn't have the power of a Teensy 4 (@600MHz), but does it have the power to run your code decently? Would it be the clock speed (240MHz) that's not fast enough? Was ESP32 available when you wrote your code? Or you just went with the best and biggest horsepower? 6:23 looks yummy! Soon I hope...
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Some people have ported the code over to the esp32-s2 and said it runs just fine. The teensy 4 has STUPID compute overhead for this relatively simple code, I just like having the option if I want to load it up with other stuff :)
@piconano10 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm Great. I hate to learn yet another hardware.
@sanjikaneki622610 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm interesting, also did they use Arduino or ESP-IDF? Also i am not that surprised it runs well on ESP32-s2 since unlike an arduino uno or RP2040 it has a floating point math unit and for the type of math that you are useing it is a great gain in speed. Also remember NOT to use core0 when useing the WIFI/BT since it may lag important code running on it . The tensey 4 was a huge overkill to begin with (unless you wanted to ad video/photo to SD)
@Quick-Flash10 ай бұрын
I would have taken a much different approach. I would have viewed my aircraft as only having 1 forward direction. I simply would have changed my setpoints to better fit the way I want to control it. I also would have used vectors instead of Euler angles to allow the angle controller to still function, which starts to break down due to the singularity problem of Euler angles. Tackling it this way I never have to change how the aircraft views the world, but rather just how I control the aircraft, this means that you don't need to change PIDs as yaw and roll PIDs are suddenly changed and may not function as well as was hoped.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Yep, all of my process arose from the desire to work with slightly more intuitive euler angles. Your method I would argue is the "correct" way to tackle the problem
@Quick-Flash10 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm Wouldn't it be possible to just have 2 different world views, one pitched forward 90 degrees, the angle PID controller could switch between the two, then this would be the only way you have to change the world view. Euler is more intuitive for sure, I do think with the right helper methods that a vector view is also simple enough to grasp, but still not as easy as Euler.
@TDOBrandano10 ай бұрын
@@NicholasRehm Your approach is however still the correct one for something like a tiltwing aircraft, where the fuselage remains level through the transition. Though in this case the angle between the wing and the fuselage can be used in place of a switch to tell the controller what proportion of mix is necessary to give the pilot intuitive input responses.
@sixtofive10 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@darkenblade98610 ай бұрын
very cool man. really good break down. I feel you should show more code examples but that could just be my cs brain talking! lol
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
I'm doing everything I can to work more code in, but people click away real fast once it hits the screen :(
@makhloufhennine68949 ай бұрын
wow it is insane
@WilsonFunTech10 ай бұрын
cool tech 👍
@AhmedHassan-yc5fb9 сағат бұрын
Can you speculate how such a control system be certified for human transportation?
@mitseraffej581210 ай бұрын
Very cool.
@StanIvanov10 ай бұрын
The frame of ref and the actuators don't change relative to each other. You could've just change the definition of the remote control sticks 🙂
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Using Euler angles for attitude command complicates this a bit. But yes I’ve done exactly this for rate-command tailsitters in the past
@savourypotato10 ай бұрын
Would be fun to try a servo on a hinged motherboard, change the angle relative to the wing instead of software.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
People have definitely done that in the old days of RC flight controllers
@geoffcooper447610 ай бұрын
Just wondering what motors, esc, and battery combo's you're using here....Oh and keep up the fantastic work!
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Cheapest dys sunfun motors they sell on getfpv, some cheap knockoff blheli ESCs from Amazon, and lots of 1500mah 4s batteries. That basically flies 90% of what I build
@mojolotz10 ай бұрын
Have you tried using a different transition curve than linear? Seems to me that a slower startup and faster transition towards the end would make it at least look more energetic.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
I have not but that would be fun and easy to play around with! Agreed that profile might give some benefits
@abhimanyumittal9561Күн бұрын
Which flight controller and what other sensors are you using
@pepethefrog719310 ай бұрын
Would it not be easier to auto-transition the controls depending on pitch angle instead of a switch input? yawservo = yaw*sin(pitch) + ail*cos(pitch) type of thing? Obviously it would cripple aerobatic flight, but that is not the goal i think.
@gauravs495010 ай бұрын
Hi Nicholas, Great progress. Have been following your videos for quite a long time and glad to see that all missing pointers of tailsitter behaviour are solved in this video. I have few queries : 1) How about putting rudder or split flaps for forward flight. Does it creates any major difference instead of thrust vector? 2) Would like to touch base with you for a project. Kindly let me know how to connect with you.
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Rudder, split flaps, differential thrust--they all create a yawing moment which is the same in the eyes of the flight controller
@gauravs495010 ай бұрын
Thanks for the revert. Is it possible to connect Raspberry Pi to this for further camera integration ?
@AzaB2C10 ай бұрын
Great project, results and walkthrough of your process, and learnings. What software do you use for the visuals/diagrams? Cheers!