Yup pretty much

Collin Jackson agreed, Tampa fans pay all that money for a seat and if they were booing the Flyers, they were booing the wrong team

@@jefftesch7478 The Flyers had the puck and refused to play. Why would Tampa Bay* fans boo the Lightning?

so many ways around it

@@IMCODY2494 such as?

How’d that go?

You guys play with offside rules?

shawn guindon both defenseman can't skate it out bc you leave open ice behind you while all your momentum is going towards the other way, you are just asking to give up goals. Tampa defense just crowds their blue line making practically impossible to carry over the puck into their zone. You can only dump it into their zone, where one of their d man is waiting. Tampa just waits to get a odd man rush the other way and get a sneaky goal. In theory, Tampa can only score 2 goals a game that way. It's boring as hell to watch bc the team doing the trap hardly try's to keep offensive pressure. They just fall back into their own zone and try to win 1-0 or 2-1.

Frank Feola ah thank you!

Don’t we all?! Life was so much simpler back then. However, in the last month or two? I’ve noticed there’s some publicized pushback & countering against the cancel-alt-delete agenda & I love it! Don’t come attacking me by saying “we” were ignorant people back then. Because that’s a completely wrong assumption & that’s on you! There are more ignorant people today than there’s ever been before!

I'm pretty sure I'm you're brother but ok

Phillip Willemsen 1-4 Lol

Phillip Willemsen 1-3-1 Trap

And did the "provoking " work brains? worth what gamble? "counteract" the trap? how? by not moving? a team that brought in the resurgence of defensive hockey in the 70's won two Stanley Cups, then did nothing else, and when everybody else adapts the defensive systems , then perfects it like Tampa Bay, they don't like it of course, well go one step further brains, goon it up

This isn't the playoffs though.

@@darthollpheist1156 The 1-3-1 was obviously a failure.

@@ChrisJones-yt8zp Yeah.... but this wasn't the playoffs. You said "during the series" then went on to talk about hitting the same player over and over. That's all fine and good. But like I said, this isn't the playoffs.... thus, it's not a series.

@@darthollpheist1156 who cares? It was a shit strategy and they DID use it in the playoffs and got wrecked.

@@ChrisJones-yt8zp Ummm..... Who cares? I do. When you make an objectively false statement, someone should correct you. But I see you're like all the other little kids in the comments. When someone points something out that makes you seem torpid, you get mad and proceed with ad hominem attacks and zero substance.

Nope

Not a rule change, but the NHL definitely had a chat with Tampa about it all because it stopped being used as a defense real quickly after this game.

really not sure how anyone defends the flyers on this one lol

@@iamteeter because 1-3-1 is boring. It leads to the most boring hockey play ever. It's a lazy tactic. Always has been. Games are always more fun to watch when there's offensive pressure and forechecking. Good for the flyers not playing the Tampa Bay game.

@@angrytwxgaming8423 its a great defense tactic. As a player, I'm playing to win, not entertain. So 'boring' doesn't count as an argument in my book. I understand the point of sports as a business is to entertain. But imo, that's secondary to playing for the win. Good defense is good defense, refusing to advance the puck is poor sportsmanship.

Says the stupid Lightning fan! Go save your baseball team since your hockey team is in no danger of relocating.

@@iamteeter - Advancing the puck only for it to backfire most of the time during a trap is reason enough you deserve to be Salsa-Henry-Opus-Twins in the Tinker-Harold-Roach-Omar-Affiliate-Tinfoil!

mlee251252253254 it's cheesy as fuck

Josh Kimbrough It's simple. If it's legal but hard to beat, you have two choices. Find a way to counter it or don't complain. It's obviously effective to a degree and they found a way in this particular video so it's not exactly as cheesy as anyone would have you believe. Find a way to break the trap, because if you can't then you have no right to complain. I apologise if it seems I'm harping at you but it's getting really sad that I hear that same excuse over and over. Hell it's be more entertaining if a few more teams did this. If I'm Tampa I'd do it more often

It slows the game down

@@patriot-kw5lj still slows the game down to a near halt, dump chase rinse repeat. It's boring. Play the fucking sport

Definitely, a lot of teams sit back and absorb pressure. Its considered an annoying strategy in soccer too, but maybe not as much as in hockey since the field is much bigger which leads to marking not being as tight. If you try to play ultra defensive in soccer you eventually concede enough ground the other team comes into shooting range.

That happens in soccer all the time, almost in every game. Most of Dutch and Spanish teams or Liverpool coached by Klopp may be the exception, because they are playing the "gegenpress" strategy where they try them win the ball immidiately after they loose it. But even most offensive teams are switching between this and zonal marking in the game because no soccer team would be capable of maintain this strategy with fast running the whole match. Most of teams are switching between balancing approach of pressing when they are deep in opponents side of the pitch but when they loose the ball closer to the half of the pitch or in their half, they are trying to fill the spaces, cover the empty areas as quickly as they can and they basically let the other team controll the ball for some time while maintainig good tight formation. They would not try to steal the ball from the players or block pass until they are in the shooting area or area from where they can pass for the scoring.

The idea being Boucher's 1-3-1 trap is that it forces the opposing team to turn the puck over in the neutral zone which in theory creates an odd man rush going the other way

+BobskinNHL .......if Laviolette was smart he would break out the entire team together giving more outlets past the #1 and thus a dump in if needed , now your past the neutral zone

@@Mr99RICH99 and then Tampa gets it, you forechexk and they come in odd man. Or you fall back into a 1-3-1 and it's the same. Dump in and repeat. 1-3-1 has never been fun to watch in the history of hockey

@@angrytwxgaming8423 ......it does make hockey boring

Magna Prodz no not really. if the puck stops moving its a dead puck. if they keep it in motion its in play. That's it haha

You’re right, and when teams have been effective against TB it’s because they’ve been fast(er) for the most part. But again, you’re committing to a solid forecheck, and TB is also fast and an excellent passing team - especially their D’s. You’re leaving space behind you...don’t force a turnover and TB will make you pay.

I don't necessarily have an issue with it when the game is tied, but when Tampa goes down 1 goal and doesn't forecheck at all, they are dipshits and it's bad strategy. The team with the lead has no obligation to move the puck up if the other team isn't pressuring them at all when they have the puck.

because philly is grimy..and because they arent making a move..so why not boo hahaha

They are both equally at fault.

Except 1-3-1 is for pussies and you're a idiot for defending it. Play the fucking sport.

Agreed. Flyers are the ones who are standing still with the puck doing nothing. Because they are afraid to lose the puck to a strong defense.

Yep in your beer league where no ones watching, it works fine. But when it's a business before a sport and fans start to find it boring, it can't be good if you destroy the pleasure of watching it. NHL is a show before a game between two teams. It must sell tickets or incomes and salaries drop..

Comment aged well

Comment aged well, also how are you going compare 2012 team to a later one?

@@quartratic2389 uh oh i hope this comment doesnt age well again.

If you make it so that you have to make an offensive move, EVERYONE will be using the 1-3-1 trap because the offensive team are forced to run into the trap, it's NOT the solution.

Nemesis1911 couldn't another solution be to make the field wider as to allow more personal skill to be used avoid the trap?

Did you hear the commentators say that? I thought so