I love that this is one of the only channels where you can legitimately blame the gun or ammo every time.

I think it would be pretty cool to see a compilation video of everything over the years that have penetrated the lead plate.

Thanks to Dmitry for supplying these slugs and thanks to Bryan for shooting. Now that the OG has retired he becomes a guest shooter. Thanks for the video.

Back in the old days when people were pioneering 44 magnum loads they used to use Cream of Wheat loaded on top of the powder as a filler to take up the extra space. Not sure if that will help any in the future or not though but might be worth a try. Thanks for the video!!!

I was a machinist 11 years, injection molding 2 years. A lot of work went into these shells. Also Kudos to Jeff for loading them. Keep trying to make them just right now easy to do everything effects the performance.

Danny is still the best shot on KZfaq ❤

Ryan is a very welcome addition to the videos. The 2 of you make a great pair. Very entertaining and interesting. I also like to see the loading process since I used to reload shotgun for trap shooting. Keep up the good work.

Your attention to detail is appreciated in explaining how to load these experimental shotgun loads Jeff. I’ve learned somethings that might have been bad for me or the shotgun by watching this awesome channel. Thanks Jeff.

Thanks guys. I appreciate your dedication to our passion.

13:42 that lead plate didn't even know what hit it. Great shot. The 3 piece sabot seems like an improvement, and maybe a smaller void version would seal better for the gas blow-by too. I ❤️ that this channel gets so much weird slugs to shoot from viewers.

That has to be definitely one of the best lead plate shots where the fins got stuck. Thank you for another great video

Ryan must be Greg's younger, keener-eyed brother. Lol

Jeff, there are a couple of things a friend introduced me to when shooting Black Powder with a reduced load that might help if you care to try them. He had a reproduction Colt .44 Walker pistol that takes 60 grains of BP. But if he reduced the loads to light target or to the loads of the 1858 Remington of 30 grains, he had a huge gap between the ball and powder that would effect the ignition. What he came up with, that was cheap and readily available, was to use "corn meal" to fill the space above the powder that helped to compress the powder charge and hold it in place. It also had the benefit of cutting the fowling in the refiling of the barrel. Corn meal could also be mixed with water to form a moldable past that would fill gaps better and drys hard. They would also disintegrate quickly. But if you try that, it might help to put a light coating or oil (Pam Spray) or a light spray wax for furniture if you are molding it to fins like this. Just to insure nothing sticks to them. It shouldn't stick to plastic anyway, but use for insurance on those you only have a small number to test. I've been using that corn meal in BP for over 20 years with no problems. BP and smokeless powder shooters using big boar cartridge calibers, to hold less than a full powder charge back by the primer to insure ignition, use a poyl-fill or pillow stuffing to fill the gap under the bullet. Especially in necked cartridges. You can get this out of an old pillow or stuffed toy. Just a couple of cheap ideas that might help you can try. But I was thinking the corn meal would separate better than the toilet paper. It would be more like sand as the sabot petals separated. A piece of Saran Wrap on the bottom of the Sabot the loose meal in place as you stuff the sabot in the shot shell hull. I've used that making BP flat base paper cartridges. It works better than the nitrated paper and is consumed on firing. Like I said, just some suggestions if you find another creation that is difficult and needs some wadding or protection. That corn meal could also be used to fill a hollow base to give more support. Good videos and stay safe

Glad you are still making these videos! My day just got better!

Cream O' wheat works as an excellent filler as well, is actually used as a volume filler on the 577/450 Martini Henry round ( black powder)

That's impressive as all heck - both the design of the slug and sabots, and your creative loading......to say nothing of the results! Always a pleasure, never a chore :)

Real nice rounds. Would like to see some more, with set sights and gelatan. Was impressed with how it liked lead.

There's no such thing as a failed experiment. Thank you for doing these!

It reminds of how Flash Gordon's rocket ship flew in those 1930's serials.

Jeff, you will never bore me with important details! I love seeing the process for how to get these odd slugs working correctly!

Ryan is one handsome dude. From the low angle you keep filming him from, he looks like he's 8-feet tall!

This guy did great! If you have no experience with slug and shot it's not easy mode like any ar is!

Any day you guys put out a video is a good day. Man, Dmitri really put a lot of effort into these! Injection molding sabots, and exceptional looking darts. crazy good work on excellent work on the powder loads and setting up the slugs. You really are a genius when it comes it comes to loading these. I was gonna say "30 grains longshot, its always about 30 grains" quoting you from previous videos :)

Is OG still stuck at the airport?

Great video Jeff, You're becoming quite the wizard at figuring out the loads for all these strange projectiles. Great shooting Ryan, a man can't do any better than his tools allow.

Missed you guys. Happy to see a new video.

Great job! Even the "Edge Lord!". You did a good job on loading. It isn't an exact science when you start, but after you study it in action ,it can be exact. I never knew what I'd get with my uncles reloads. I spent a long fruitless day dove hunting until I had a very easy shot. Pulled the trigger and had a big puff of smoke come out, without a kick. I lowered barrel to see what happened and all the bird shot rolled out the barrel onto the ground.

Another great video. Really cool to see that thing go through the lead plate. The way the fins got stuck with super cool. Also, as far as I am concerned, Ryan seems like a really good guy. I'm really happy to see him become part of the channel. All of the shooters that you've ever had are always great Jeff. And I think that Ryan is doing a great job. Long live the Edge Lord!!!😂

Another great video, Jeff. 👍 Really enjoy Ryan's wit and sense of humor. 👍 That devious Russkiy slug was doing its best to make both of you look bad, but you persevered and won out in the end. Well done! 👍👍

now you know ? first thing is to zero your red dot ! then conduct the test. lol thanks for your work and humor. keep up the good work.

Awesome video Jeff! Your guest was great and the breakdown of all of the work you had to do was perfect.

I love the detail on load out of the various rounds you cobble together! Watching the shots is great but the technical side is my favorite part 👍

You guys are awesome!

Cool results on that last lead plate shot. That's some penetration!

Really interesting slugs, and with the 'Lord of the Edge' shooting all made for a good post. Thank you for posting and the guest shooters are refreshing.

Always cheers me up to see a new vid and boy do I need it. Thx guys always great content.

Ryan is very entertaining, and I fully enjoyed his presence on this video. Great as always Jeff!

I would love to see some of these rounds scaled up to fit Kentucky Ballistics 4 Bore rifle.

Amazing footage, enjoyed the walk through on what was involved with the loading. Thanks for sharing.

Great job Byran ! Loved the effort and you are now a real life Edger Lord !

If 3 sabots worked well, then just imagine how TEN sabots would perform

Nice rounds, look pretty good and effective!

Nice video, great explanation of the process, and a really interesting projectile! I'm glad you put this up today.

Growling sidewinder intro? Nice crossover mate. Plus, the video. Superb!

The art of proto shooting performed very nicely Jeff and Ryan . Those rounds can drill the heck out of metal .. would like to see the next iteration shot at AR500 . Any economical way of wiring up some sensors on some AR500 to measure the impact energy ? Miss your bad azz OG .

For some reason I waited for a miniature mushroom cloud... 😅

Some of my favorite parts of these videos over the years is just listening to Jeff talk. Or like the convo at the end.

Jeff, I love the way you improvise to create a viable load. Absolutely impressive.

Those sabots could use ridges that make them hold onto each other. It is a crucial feature that makes that system work with maximum efficiency just like the Tank rounds.

👍👍👍🇺🇲 you sunk my battleship...

Enjoyed the beginning of the video. I like the behind the scenes frustrations and work that is part of a successful video. Keep up the fun!

I liked what you stated,, "Welcome to prototype testing" That is a TRUE statement. I enjoy your channel, every video has some sort of discovery or twist to it, it is a thinking persons channel and I appreciate what you, the guys do and go through for your viewers. Peace Bro - Dave

For the Russian ballistic shot, the shell was going sideways for all of the trajectory. Lucky to even hit the wood block.

New subscriber here... Honestly very curious if inducing a spin with the fins would help stabilization... Or if it's even possible to induce spin with such small fins? I'd love to see a follow up with angled-fin Anferov bullets

I, for one, like the "boring" parts where you show how and what you did during the loading process. It's one of the things I miss most from your older videos that you had to cut because of KZfaq's pearl clutching. I'm glad you are able to start putting some in again. Thanks again!

I really like the load work up segment! I might have skipped it before I started loading my own ammo but now it's super interesting!

Dmitri 3, lead plate 0, Byan u can sure hit the edge. Jeff u know u're stuff when I comes 2 loading shotgun shell's. I learn and laugh. 10/10 big man. Glad u guys survived Hillary. Sorry if I got name wrong or misspelled Dimtri years of shotgunin has left me deaf. Jeff u and u're wet toilet paper should run 4 congress. But thank u 4, always coming through with a winner. No his name is Ryan, why's everyone in comments calling him Byan?

I quite enjoyed seeing and hearing those details. Keep up the good work and keep making these great videos.

Glad you show the failures and reasons along with the successes.

Awesome round , I like how you showed your trial and error with loading and shooting this crazy thing.

Ryan did a fantastic job. Jeff, you are too hard on yourself. This content is magical to me. I'm super happy with Ryan's wit and charm. I'm glad he added the comments about felt recoil, that's important stuffs. He, OG and occasionally Breannah (OCB for short) are a solid team of shooters, Jeff. Thank you so much for brightening up my day and my life. Be safe.

Enjoyed it guys. Neat to see where og danger got his start too

rly like the tech-aspect of this channel, i learned al lot of the relation between weight, sabot, powderload, powdertype, aerodynamics, smooth and rifled barrels. A little education, a little fun and tons of information presented by average joes just like me. Always looking forward to the next test! have to admit the welsh penetrator and the gatekeeper are my personal favorites.

I love the deadpan way you give attention to those airsoft bbs.

Really liked the powder and load explaining in the beginning.

Love Ryan’s humor! Great video!

Awesome to see you pop up in my feed. It has been a while!

First one of this channels videos i seen with this new guy behind the shotgun. And im not disapointed, good job guys!

I have watched your tests of flechette rounds for years and I really love the idea and the project. As an aerospace engineer I find all this particularly interesting and inspiring. I started watching these videos before having the knowledge necessary to understand the physics behind the behavior of the rounds and now that I do I love them even more. It's particularly impressive how clean the sabot separation is, Dimitry sure did a great job on that. Also the fact that the separation starts from the back is interesting. I can't say if it was intended to be this way and would love to know more about it. One thing I must say against the design of the dart is that this torpedo shape is not the most stable. It's clearly stable enough to prevent the round from going into tailspin but not to damp the wobbling properly. If I may I would give an advice on how to optimize the dart aerodynamically (I'm not considering possible structural requirements). To reduce the wobbling it is necessary to increase the margin of stability of the dart. This means that the dart's aerodynamic neutral point (aka center of pressure aka aerodynamic center) must be pushed back as the center of mass is pushed forward. The torpedo shape of the dart puts the center of mass relatively near the tip but also makes it difficult to push back the center of pressure because the tip of the dart has a big cross section. Increasing the number (and if possible size) of the stabilizing fins should push back the center of pressure. Making the shaft and tip smaller should also with pushing back the center of pressure but would also push back the center of mass. If it was possible to use lighter fins in greater number and size, make the shaft smaller and in a lighter material and the tip smaller but in a heavier material this would optimize stability. Continue the great work!

Great video, as always. Glad to hear y'all made it through the storm, hope all is well. Cheers, from a hot and humid, Texan 🍻💨🤘

Wow that was awesome when the fins stuck in the lead plate thanks Jeff for all the work you do making these videos plus figuring out how to shoot some of this crazy cool stuff you get age welcome back Ryan! Thanks for shooting again all I can say about the haters is I feel sorry for you that your life is so bad to insult a someone for no reason I hope someday you'll feel better

I like Ryan. His energy is as entertaining as OG's and yours, Jeff. Thanks for your effort with those interesting slugs!

Good times!!!!!!!!!! Nothing smells better than gunpowder. Thanks for the video! That was fun!!!!!!!!!!!

I enjoyed this one. Experimental rounds are fun to watch in action.

Saw that shot around 13:58 and saw daylight with the fins abandoned... that's one beastly round!

Your reloading tips are much appreciated- you know lotsa stuff I don't.

I’ve been waiting a good minute for you to upload!

You may think you bore us with important details. But those of us who are fascinated by the assembly part do exist. Thanks for providing that awesome detail

Once again the content is pure gold thanks

About how "Sabot" should be pronounced : I think I like the pronouciation closer to the french word "sabot" - which is some sort of carved wood shoewear, which in french (I am French) would be something like "Sah-Beau". One of the english (and french) word which comes from this particular apparel is "Sabotage" - which comes from the Silk workers in France in or around the city of Lyon who, asking for raises in wages, would ram their wooden shoes in the intricate machineries of silk weaving machinery. If I remember correctly, they eventually won the struggle, but blood was shed.

Another excellent video with some impressive shells!

I really like this guy, he is a good addition to the channel.

Awesome video as always..that clean hole through the lead plate was slick!

Really enjoyed Ryan's commentary, dude's got a great sense of humour 😂

Those ideas you had for taking up the extra space were helpful I had the same issue re loading

I don't know if restaurants still get their cleaning supplies (soap, degreaser) in five-gallon buckets, but if you can get one of those buckets that hasn't had the lid removed, they make great water filled targets. I used to shoot them back in the 80s. Those buckets have a thicker crimp than the ones bought in the big box stores. I've hit them with a 30-30 and 30 06, and they send the lid flying like a frisbee. When I shot them, water went about 10 to 15 feet straight up. We used to set the buckets on a tree stump so it had a solid foundation.

I like new shooter Ryan. Good shot and great sense of humour. He's a keeper!

Thanks for coming out and shooting, Edgelord! xD

I for one would love to see some black powder shotgun/muzzle loader content. The video on minié balls was really cool, so seeing a newer version of that would be neat

Frustrating? Disappointing? Not at all! 😃👍 Interesting ballistics of newly designed objects. 😉

Good stuff like always! Kerp em coming, your loading knowledge is impressive

Thanks men. I enjoyed the video very much and have nothing but good things to say about you guys. I'm a die hard fan and will look forward to your next video.

Cool ammo thank you for sharing one again

I look forward to seeing what Jake does with these. EBP is a great channel.

Great shot with the irons! Keep up the great content.

The performance on these are amazing

The is the only channel I don’t fast forward to the slow motion shots. Miss you Danny.

Bout Damn time!😂 Missed you guys!🎉

Reminds me of the 'cap bombs' we had as kids. Put a cap in the end then throw it skywards, nice little boom when it landed 😂. Great video Jeff. Hi to all

Glad to see that you survived the Hurricane, can't wait for the next video.