two biggest egos in tarkov lol veritas vs goat hahahahahha

@@anon-il9qf g0at is actually pretty humble.

@@Truthorlier that anon dude is a troll Nobody in this podcast is not humble at least regarding Tarkov but they all seem like good guys when they're online at least.

Alot of what was said about people and opinions reminded me of The Dunning-Kruger effect, i randomly watched a video on what that was recently, look it up if its unfamiliar if im on the right thought itll put a name to what ur describing that people are doing in reguards to what they think/say on different subjects.

TL;DW: There are way more cheaters than you think, and you are dying to cheaters way less than you think. ☺

The only interview with g0at I’ll actually watch Legitimately gave me new perspective on his motives and put it in a new light for me

This podcast is going to be nuts. Cheers to Delta V and KesseJazam!

Thanks Y'all!!!

Thanks for the early upload, I don't even play tarkov anymore because it's so frustrating but it is probably the best shooter I've ever played.

Can't wait. Still gotta save it for work Monday

He literally admits it was luck, there have been others like him who got snuffed out before their voices were heard.

​@Rexhunterj this comment adds 0 value

@@Rexhunterj To be fair that is how this kind of thing usually works. As you say he says it was luck, but everything just lined up to really make it hit.

@@Rexhunterj Mad cuz bad? Or bad cuz mad?

You guys are doing exactly what they were talking about in this pogcast - thinking for content creators and giving them credit for the things they didn't even do. Goat's video is amasing, don't get me wrong, but he literally admits he didn't know how it's going to turn out.

Man don't worry. We know the standards you get for your self. There's just somethings that are out of your control. Love the hard work buddy

It's something out of your control and we in the community understand things like that can happen, the content is always entertaining and worth the watch.

All worked out in the end!

Audio issues are the best! Lol

Good video either way V.

@@jaimemannering you need to find something better to do. So misguided

@jaimemannering not one thing you have said, makes a difference in the value I and I'm sure many other stable members of the community got from the podcast. Grow up

@@jaimemannering he also called you out, he predicted that someone like you would comment this, someone can change opinion after receiving new information Grow up lol

ty!

Legend

Wish I scrolled down and read this. I manually scrubbed through to find my spot lmao.

My hero

You absolute boss

This. As another person who works with data, the average person has limited understanding of "data" and statistics. It's not as simple or safe as "Give me a spreadsheet". People use data for their own gain and you have no idea how someone might use a simple spreadsheet.

He talked about doing a video like goat did over a year ago. Idk how that is "not thinking of this first"

That is because Veritas is doing way more in depth analysis. Usually veritas is putting hours and hours into statistics, but since he is known in the community his video would not have blown so much...Goat was not known and many streamers tried to shame him or accuse him of not enough data (which gave him more attention), some praised him and there is where it all started with the controversy.......with Veritas most likely people would have just agreed with (because of the perfect statistics) and moved on without so much controversy.

100%. It overshadowed his video and hes so salty about it

He has already experienced everything first, before anyone.

He would have. G0at basically lied about his conclusions and doesn't have the data to back his claims.

A rare thing in the tarkov community. Great comment!

It’s almost like he doesn’t have a single solid point to stand on….other than he believes he could’ve done it better.

Veritas is the king of fallacies. That said, he 100% would have done the video better.

yep

Veritas is probably the biggest narcissist on the platform

8:23 is a good example of it coming out. He responded to himself how he expected them to respond to his statement about his 27 page script that no one asked about

He sounds like Tim Pool or Ben Shapiro in one of those panel shows. Trying so hard to sound smart by nit picking g0at but literally avoiding the heart of every point he's picking at.

He’s such a tool

Where can I find the vod?

Yeah they usually arent tbh. Dude just always likes to bring whatever the conversation is back to himself.

This podcast really exemplified veritas not being a content creator I enjoy. Wish Jesse had a better / different cohost

​@@Kelfryn I do like Jesse a lot and this one felt like he was participating in reputation recovery. Not for himself mind you. Edit: I said "a lot" twice and fixed it... commenting while at work maybe not a great idea

He has been trying to walk back what he said on his original VOD ever since it really blew up. I assume he thought this would just blow over like past cheater videos have and none of this would matter. His off the cuff reaction to the cheating issue, the video itself, and G0at is telling what he really feels about this issue, and no amount of backtracking, 27 pages of cope/justification, or "I just wanted to do it myself" justifies what he originally said. Now he is pulling the "it's just my opinion guys, geez" shit. The funniest part is him saying he had his mind changed and how open minded he is to things... says the guy who will every stream I've seen go into massive diatribes any time anyone tries to discuss something he has made his mind up on. Jesse seems like he is FAR more willing to see alternative views on subjects and even say if he was wrong. Also he is willing to say he doesn't know everything, unlike others....

Dude I get how Veritas is going crazy. the guy who is watching you know his dream being performed by someone else on top of that it’s not to his own standards. At the same time he’s aware that his standard is not achievable as a one many army and would require a team with 6 months of data at the least but even then all information is subject to change in Tarkov. The community or a vocal part of it are shitting on streamers including landmark for having their opinion on g0at’s KZfaq video. Members of the community are being shitting on for skepticism and cynicism. People don’t need to be sympathetic but they can surely be empathetic especially when we get long detailed answers here rather than a toneless short tweet. He definitely let’s commenters like this, these negative Nancy’s of the community get to him but what he had to say was completely understandable if you’re capable of having healthy compromises in relationships friend or girlfriends. Idk to me it just seems like lots of tarkov people need to vent their emotion caused by the game and many of which are valid reasons.

BSG and parts of the community have knocked down any real talk of cheating for some time. Luckily this time it got through. On the recent WAN show they said it best, anti-cheat isn't sexy but has to be done... and BSG finally got the kick in the ass for how bad it is on their watch.

Thanks for pointing this out. I had a look at his channel and it looks like his channel is in russian. Are you able to give a brief summary of what happened in that video he did?

any idea at what timestamp that was? I did the same, but no clue what i heard last 😅 (edit it's 01:27:10)

I love when I see other commenters who see through his garbage. He's a child.

@@platoherman6957 No he´s not a child imo, more of a Narcissistic, arrogant and whiney POS. Just watch him how he acts in his streams, bans everyone who`s trying to argue with him. His Mods are the biggest dickriders i`ve ever seen in a stream. He`s like the DSP of EFT.

While I don't doubt he's done great things for the game and the community, I personally won't watch him being an arrogant prick to his viewers on stream anymore.

@@dangermaus4084 Then you`re a better person than me, i saw him acting in his Twitch streams and i honestly hope he loses everything. People like him shouldn`t be allowed to have any platform at all.

Pogcast + mowing the lawn go CRAZY

About to go shovel 3 feet of snow from my driveway and listening to this, let's goooo!

Yooo, fellow landscaping/yard work listeners, wazzam!

fellow lawn care nut here

Getting these chores off with the pogcast going… high level weekend adulting lol

People like human contact which is an even bigger reason

Same problem exist in all FPS games

​@@texasforever7887the accessibility and severity of cheating matters. Its way easier to cheat in tarkov than in many other shooters.

​@@texasforever7887 no chances. If 1 in every 15 players are cheating then that's 10 in every warzone lobby, nobody would ever win a game without cheats.

@@SueMyChin that is true but I am convinced that unless they are raging, most cheaters are not that good even with cheats

Lol

He was probably doing it…

This is what Veritas says about every idea that isn't his. He's cringe

@@platoherman6957 yeah it was kind of cringe to listen to him this pod

He sees himself as a semigod or something.

Yeah over the few years I played I got used to the “BSG don’t say anything get used to it lol!” And I was like oh I guess that’s kinda cool for surprises to the community. But more recently I’ve been like yeah these guys need to talk to us somehow.

Even Star Citizen, for all the problems that exist with that development, have some sort of update billboard and regular reports on what they are doing and where they want to go. Project Zomboid and Dyson Sphere Program, and UBOAT are all goo examples recently of keeping players informed on what is happening and where to go. BSG is this black hole that seems to get its kicks from making players guess what changes happened, and not wiling to discuss why systems are the way they are even if they are horrible. Hell do we even know what is next for the game? Open world? Another map? Or will they just say "fuck it" and dump out the game as 1.0?

Varitas was 100% more then "I don't like this song but it is OK you do" in his original VOD, and was actively arguing with people in his chat when they tried to discuss it or defend it in any way. He hated the video, hated that someone else did it first, and hated that people found it useful and good and was more then willing to say they were wrong and idiots (as he always does with his chat). It feels like gaslighting at this point with the revisionism.

Same, I have never cheated in an online game but it was crazy to see how much of an advantage, and easy to hide, something like ESP was... and how one could start to see the pattern of other cheaters in raids. With all the audio bugs, lighting/shadow bugs, and dsync issues playing the game as an average person without cheats makes us seem like the fools in the game.

I think the low K/D is from newer players who really don't know what they are doing and don't survive much. People who have been playing a long time can push through scavs, and tend to be doing more missions that require more kills too (hell I just did a 25 survive streets weekly, and I expect I was killing 5 to 8 scavs every raid). The new players I have seen go from zero experience through a wipe have a lot of trouble getting kills, and getting through the missions.

Your favourite thing is he can mute his mic?

@@josefkun7466 still smooth with it