Taurus TX-22 Compact vs Keltec P17 / 22LR Battle

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10 ай бұрын

Lets compare the Taurus TX-22 Compact to the Keltec P17, both good quality and affordable 22lr handguns. The Taurus is roughly $100 but is an optics ready pistol, I think it has a better grip texture, a solid trigger, and load assist tabs on the magazines. The Keltec comes with 3 magazines, has a great set of fiber optic sights, ambi magazine release, and an ambi safety. Both are solid choices and both come with an adpater to run them suppressed.
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@paulcallaway71 9 ай бұрын

Taurus has been having good press in recent years so I took the plunge and bought the TX22 Compact. I figure if it's a dud then at least I didn't drop a lot of cash on it. That said, it's turned into one of my favorite guns to shoot. I think the ergonomics are great and it feels really comfortable to shoot. And so far I've had zero failures.

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

That’s a fun one for sure

@cp300blackout4 9 ай бұрын

Good video . These little 22 LR are really underestimated, in the study "An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power" the 22LR is among the 3 most lethal calibers (within the data of that study), of course, it was the third least capable of stopping the opponent. Another interesting fact from that study in relation to the 22LR is that in terms of "average rounds to incapacitation by caliber" (in those cases in which there was incapacitation), the 22 LR performs better than against all other calibers (with the exception of the shotgun), probably precisely because of the ease of grouping and possibly the better training of those who possess the weapons. These new pistols in 22LR and their increased reliability, and more reliable modern ammunition are really a good option for ccw or home defense for the elderly or simply for those who like to put every round on the target! 😃 I just subscribed. Thank you for the video!

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

They are more reliable but I couldn’t trust my life to one personally

@mrgreen8887 6 ай бұрын

You made an excellent point the ease of groupings modern reliable ammo and you can put all 13 or 16 on target that is a lot of holes to patch.

@cp300blackout4 6 ай бұрын

@@mrgreen8887 👍👍

@CookieMonster_1969 10 ай бұрын

Agreed on the lighting, some extra light would improve it, sound is fine... I have the TX22c and it is a blast at the range. I bought it for the sole purpose of improving my skills at the range without burning through 9 & 10 mm. It is a shooter for sure, I've never put anything but CCI mini mags through it as that is what I have thousands of rounds available in.

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the input

@eidtnaci 9 ай бұрын

Never shot the taurus so i don't have anything to say on her. I do own the Kel-tec and im very pleased with her.

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

Dope

@vtxdaryl 28 күн бұрын

Why not own them both?

@samowens5984 10 ай бұрын

I didn’t see a link for Hold up display. Enjoyed the video as always.

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

Oops I forgot the link

@vinmat3558 10 ай бұрын

Great review. Thanks!

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@THINKforYOURSELFinstead 27 күн бұрын

Sure, the actual review starts at 4:00 minutes into the video, but that was a GREAT review. You literally covered just about every aspect of both, plus pros and cons, the video wasn't pre-scripted, AND you weren't reading. You nailed it!

@TiberiousGib 27 күн бұрын

Why thank you

@user-hp8fn1wd7t 2 ай бұрын

Excellent review, thanks.

@TiberiousGib 2 ай бұрын

Appreciate that

@smuniz9987 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for that .22 review. Been contemplating getting either one. (New sub)

@TiberiousGib 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! 🎉

@sherlock1895 3 ай бұрын

Have 2 P17’s. My wife and I are quite pleased with them. I did install Traction Grips on both. It definitely improved the purchase. You did comment about 22lr for EDC. Here’s my take on that. First, 17 rounds is a ton on ammo without having to reload. My most important observation is 22lr ammo is very inexpensive. So a shooter can afford to become extremely proficient with the P17. Putting shots on target is the key. I’d like to hear comments about my thoughts. Cheers.

@TiberiousGib 3 ай бұрын

Dope

@sherlock1895 3 ай бұрын

@@TiberiousGib I was rather hoping for responsible comments. Cheers!

@karendunning5594 Ай бұрын

@@sherlock1895 If a 22 strike isn't going to stop somebody, a 9mil hit in the same spot isn't going to stop them either. That simple. Greg Ellefritz's Ohio law enforcement database proves this. Ambgun does a great job going through this data at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obhjh6t7vJvXnYU.htmlsi=O5Hk-kVQmEyqXh90

@dtmelanson 10 ай бұрын

Nice new studio!

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

Thanks

@gaylenstone9329 3 ай бұрын

I have the Keltec p17 and yes the factory grip is not the best, very slick especially if it gets any bit wet. This is easy fixed by getting some Traction Grips from their website. They made custom ones for the p17 and they really change the feel of the gun. I can also speak to Keltec standing by their product. Did have some issues with the p17, one phone call and they took care of it, did not even have to pay shipping.

@tylerrussell3388 4 ай бұрын

I own both of these actually. Lol. I like 22 it’s fun and more importantly cheap to shoot and train with. The keltec is a very cool simple gun. Love the fiber front sight and it’s accurate. The trigger is mint hovering around a tad under 3lbs. I’ve been a fan of Taurus having Owed g2c and g3c I’ll agreed the tx trigger is more tactical but I don’t listen to my trigger reset but is very nice. Weight on the keltec is insane like a feather. Hate the mags. Taruas feels more solid obviously and like the mags better. Honestly they both have pros and cons but honestly you can’t go wrong with either. I got the keltec from PSA for $149 screaming deal and months after got the tx compact in FDE color for $269

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Well said

@williambotts635 5 ай бұрын

I own a Taurus G3c and thought I would get the TX22, but after going online and seeing reviews and with customer service being better on the Keltec I went with the P17. It has been flawless and I even called Keltec to see how often to change the recoil springs, the lady said she would send out two at no charge to ease my mind but she knew of guns with several thousand rounds with the same spring. Kinda makes me want to sell my two G3c's and get two Keltec 9mm.

@TiberiousGib 5 ай бұрын

That’s some solid service

@nylesfrench3568 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate this information and I like the fixed barrel on the Keltec.

@willrider2401 27 күн бұрын

I definitely agree with the comment. I’ve had both Caltex and Taurus and the reason I sold all the Taurus pistols I had was because their customer service was almost nonexistent. When I had some problems they told me it would be under warranty, but it would not. Be fixed for a minimum of 18 months and since this was my pistol that I carried every day, it went straight to the pawnshop and I bought my first Caltech. They may be ugly, but they’re super reliable.

@jbazan11 9 ай бұрын

Bought both last week compact was about $325 @academy and the keltec used from Gunshop $150. Went to the range today with both only had one failure to feed with the keltec but racked back the slide chambered a round and no other issues. Burned about 200 rounds in each. Always fun to shoot 22lr!

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

Awesome 🙌

@smokintruker27 5 ай бұрын

Mcarbo makes a flate blade trigger for the Keltec P17 and makes it alot better, takes about 3/4lb to 1lb out of the trigger pull and take up is alot less

@TiberiousGib 5 ай бұрын

Also correct

@shermn8 3 ай бұрын

I have both, both flawless, Taurus mags easier to load. Bought Taurus 6 mag bundle and 2 extra keltec mags. Both tack drivers!

@TiberiousGib 3 ай бұрын

Dope

@smacksmack5976 4 ай бұрын

Love my Taurus tx compact. Very reliable

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Dope

@user-rx4yb1db4v 8 ай бұрын

I have a full size tx22 it has been my go to 22lr since i got it i know the full size mags will fit the compact and if not now soon there will be and option from a company that makes extensions for the compact as well i have tried every kind of ammo thrue mine with very little problems especially bulk i use cci quiet auto with my suppressor and it cycles fine even the quiet cci fires but i have to cycle it but it's 800 fps so it moves the slide but not enough if you can live with that go with the taurus they surprised the hell out of me.

@TiberiousGib 8 ай бұрын

Nice

@bugsdohavefeelings 6 ай бұрын

What is your favorite ammo for your Taurus? I used cheapies from the range today and they kept jamming… gun could’ve prob used a cleaning too, though.

@TiberiousGib 6 ай бұрын

That thing eats anything, even ammo that other guns won’t run.

@jimh527 Ай бұрын

The P-17 is a great gun. Training or otherwise. Won me over.

@TiberiousGib Ай бұрын

🤘🤘🤘

@briancarroll8124 Ай бұрын

Don’t use the load assist tabs on the TX22. The only failures I have gotten with the gun are when I loaded the mags with load assist tabs. The rounds get jammed up this way

@yoho1021 Ай бұрын

Rim lock happens in a pinch best load from the top - keltec forces good habits

@SgtRum 4 ай бұрын

You sound a bit like Adam Sandler at first. Good Review! Thanks!

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Uhhhh….Thanks

@vincecooper4445 9 ай бұрын

I chose the taurus

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

Not a bad choice

@michaelschiff2596 7 ай бұрын

@@TiberiousGibNo NOT a bad choice at all,, it's a GREAT CHOICE! Jeezzz "not a bad choice "? Ya think? You chose the gun...

@michaelschiff2596 7 ай бұрын

GREAT CHOICE!! ACTUALLY IN THIS VID, THAT WAS THE ONLY CHOICE!! THE TX22 MERITS BEING COMPARED TO HIGHER END GUNS! THIS KELTEC IS IN THE "AIR SOFT" GUN CATEGORY.

@williammuenster7386 9 ай бұрын

Nothing but Issues with my new TX22 1st shooting....Cleaned/oiled prior to first shots....FTE, FTL's mag jams (9 Times) first 250 rounds. I switched from The golden bullet to Aguila, CCI and Federal Punch 40 grain rounds after watching a few vids. I cleaned oiled, also cleaned inside mags again. I had issues with Mag #1 so down to 2 issues after another 250 rounds 2 FTL with #1 mag......Still not happy with results but will put another 250 next time after checking Mag #1 ....may also order a stainless guide rod it seems a little sluggish . I have had a few issues with other guns with plastic type guide rods....we shall see! TX22 is light wt.... shoots where aimed Fun to shoot/ Train trying to correct issues....I'll Be Back!

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

Ugh that stinks, the few I’ve shot have been solid

@guaporeturns9472 6 ай бұрын

Shoulda got a Keltec

@emanuelemanuel7038 Ай бұрын

Lol not the tx 22, you, by luck and coincidence exclusively ran the only ammo types that are notorious for not running well in the tx 22. Strictly avoid Aguila(unless its HV or super extra, but still spotty at best), golden bullet,(everyone has issues with these). Also stay away from browning/winchester bulk (flat nosed ammo feeds poorly) Fed punch, and SOME cci variants have issues. Runs cci mini-mag/standard/blazer, runs federal champion/automatch bulk, people also have good luck with norma tac

@mytquin7605 10 ай бұрын

hoping Taurus comes out with the optic cut on the full size TX-22.

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

They don’t have one already???

@mytquin7605 10 ай бұрын

no sir @@TiberiousGib

@mytquin7605 10 ай бұрын

only the competition model and that dot sits too high. i have one but prefer the lower dot as it's more realistic for training.@@TiberiousGib

@nicksrandomviews1296 4 ай бұрын

They kind of do it's the Taurus tx22 competition has an optic mount.

@mytquin7605 4 ай бұрын

@@nicksrandomviews1296 i own one but i am talking about the dot being recessed into the slide just as a carry gun has in the proper location. love my TX competition model but still prefer the dot to be located on the rear of the slide.

@laughingpain3006 25 күн бұрын

I carry the TX22c daily. The P17 is a bag/fishing gun.

@TiberiousGib 25 күн бұрын

Alright alright

@nicksrandomviews1296 4 ай бұрын

I've owned both of these and the keltec I had was garbage way to many malfunctions with a lot of different ammo. The Taurus on the other hand has been awesome very reliable and it feels better in hand and just feels way better made.

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Appreciate the input

@mobloisirs272 7 ай бұрын

j'adore ces deux pistolets mais en France le keltec p17 et très dur a trouver et le tx22 COMPACT et pas encore importé ! dommage j'adore les deux !

@TiberiousGib 7 ай бұрын

come on over to the states 🇺🇸

@mobloisirs272 7 ай бұрын

@@TiberiousGib j'adorerai venir aux u.s mais j'ai ma femme et mes deux enfants qui ont 11 et 8 ans, le changement serait énorme, la langue, le travail....... il faut un gros budget.

@michaelschiff2596 7 ай бұрын

True! Best to stay there.

@JamesJones-cx5pk 5 ай бұрын

You got my subscription. I only have my right arm. Can I remove the slide on the Kel Tec.

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

I don’t know, if you are on IG reach out to me and I’ll send you a video of my trying but I don’t think it’s possible with one hand

@kentdeneal1188 Ай бұрын

I love my p17, if I were you I would attempt mouth assist. God bless you

@JamesJones-cx5pk Ай бұрын

@@kentdeneal1188I bought one. I put grip tape along the top of the slide. I can rack it easily on my leg or belt

@ACommenterOnYouTube 4 ай бұрын

Got the P17 because it was only $200 ... It isnt perfect but its not BAD either. Every mag i go thru has a different experience. I only use CCI Mini Mags because i hear they are the best in 22's and i can say that out of every 100 round case, maybe 1 or 2 failure to fire on the 1st hit, but always fires on the 2nd hit. I have 5 total mags with this gun and as i said, every mag is a different experience. 1 mag will fire off all 16 rounds with no issue while the next mag will give me 1 or 2 stove pipes while another mag will give me 1 failure to fire. So when i shoot it, its like whats going to happen with this mag .. LOL .. I want another 22LR pistol but i hear bad things on all of them, even with this P17 ....

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Appreciate the comment

@smokintruker27 5 ай бұрын

on the Keltec P17 it looks like it is optics ready but it is not thats what holds the slide together

@TiberiousGib 5 ай бұрын

Correct

@smokintruker27 5 ай бұрын

I'm a certified gunsmith and licensed FFL dealer. MCARBO has a trigger for the Keltec and Tandemkross, and Keeptinkering has a trigger for the TX22. The keltec got a mixed reviews when first introduced and reviewed, but keltec fixed those issues before mass produced and sent out. In my personal opinion I'm more for the Taurus little wider in the grip also keltec offers 3 mags and Taurus TX22 only has 2 mags. TAURUS IS ALSO AROUND 100 BUCKS MORE IN PRICE. the quality in build is much superior in the Taurus

@ACommenterOnYouTube 4 ай бұрын

they sell a plate to mount on top of the keltec to add a red dot OR you buy keltec's red dot slide for $200

@soggycracker5934 9 ай бұрын

I regularly see the Kel Tec for under $200.

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

Solid

@chase3253 3 ай бұрын

Ahhh....the TX22 Compact without the thumb safety. Very nice.

@TiberiousGib 3 ай бұрын

Indeed

@jordannewland458 Ай бұрын

If you can find one.. good thing it's not a carry gun for me with that dumb safety.

@user-tv2ni5xz3u 5 ай бұрын

Putting a hogue grip on the keltec made a huge difference

@TiberiousGib 5 ай бұрын

Makes sense

@Tanstin1 4 ай бұрын

The gun that you attached the optic to tells me all you need to know.

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Not sure what you mean? Are you making fun of me for adding an optic? Are you saying I like the Taurus more because i added an optic? Keep in mind you can’t add an optic to the Keltec

@Tanstin1 4 ай бұрын

Sorry! Not making fun of you at all. You were comparing the two guns, and i meant you could immediately tell which one you thought was better based on which you mounted an optic on. In retrospect, i didnt know the p17 was not optic ready.

@user-xi2lj8kh4d 3 ай бұрын

I like them both but i do own 2 of the jel tec's love that little shit 🤷 lol very dependable, both are

@TiberiousGib 3 ай бұрын

Nice

5 ай бұрын

says taurus mags 13 round but mine came with 2 16 round mags

@TiberiousGib 5 ай бұрын

Because they changed the mags

@MrKingArthurhk 10 ай бұрын

Reliable suppressed .22 LR matter.

@MrKingArthurhk 10 ай бұрын

It is dark. Better lighting would help quite a bit.

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

Agreed

@marcopolo363 9 ай бұрын

Taurus is better looking gun! But is a 22LR pistol a “defense” pistol?

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

I don’t think so but lots of folks do

@f45411 8 ай бұрын

it certainly works, since it's so common it's used in a lot of shootings someone else cited a study but i recall my father telling me about how a 22 didn't fully penetrate a shoulder but tumbled around and got stuck, probably hit an artery or otherwise lost a ton of blood and died gel test aren't one to one with the human body (difference parts of the body have different density, bone density, clothing, etc.); they're good for consistent testing and comparison though but at the end of the day, a hole through your body is a hole through your body doesn't matter how big your caliber is if all your shots miss when you can't afford to miss; having minimal recoil is a huge boon when you're cracked on adrenaline unless you adequately training to mitigate under live fire drills, completely different from static firing at the range

@michaelschiff2596 7 ай бұрын

@@f45411AMEN TO THAT BUDDY!! I HAVE ALL THE WAY UP TO .45ACP AND .357MAG. BUT HITTING A VITAL SPOT WITH A CCI STINGER OR VELOCITOR,,, OR FEDERAL PUNCH USING A .22LR GIVES A LOT BETTER. CHANCE AS WELL AS SUBSEQUENT. FOLLOW UP SHOTS TO THOSE VITAL AREAS!! PLUS,, THOSE .22'S LOVE TO TUMBLE LIKE HAVING A TINY PINBALL BOUNCING AROUND OFF YOUR ORGANS AND ARTERIES!! TATS WHY THE .DEADLY 22LR IS SO UNDERRATED! UNLIKE SEX,, BIGGER IS,,, NOT BETTER!!

@Steven-gv1ke 4 ай бұрын

Your weight on the P17 is off. On their website the P17 weighs 306 grams. Divide that by 28.35 (grams in an ounce) and you get 10.79 ounces.

@TiberiousGib 4 ай бұрын

Ty - math is hard lol

@brianmcgee4730 3 ай бұрын

That's not really fair the taurus is the competition model ,not the normal tx22

@TiberiousGib 3 ай бұрын

Actually that is the standard compact version, not the competition

@brianmcgee4730 3 ай бұрын

@TiberiousGib no its not the standard has a covered barrel I have both I should know, and that barrel is not covered

@brianmcgee4730 3 ай бұрын

I have both guns the standard has the covered barrel the competition has the slide cut for a free bull barrel

@atkinsjoe5754 9 ай бұрын

Taurus

@TiberiousGib 9 ай бұрын

Why is that?

@nuttjeffable 10 ай бұрын

Love the videos. That keltex is one of the ugliest handguns I've ever seen.

@TiberiousGib 10 ай бұрын

😂🤣😂

@michaelschiff2596 7 ай бұрын

Lol!!! Yea it is!!! Looks like somebody found a bunch of spare misc. parts laying around and quickly made a gun?! It definitely puts the UG in Ugly!!! I have a Keltec P11 subcompact 11 rd 9mm smallest lightest and best ccw gun to come out,, period!! Came out in mid 90s and every gun company has copied the design over and over but havent been able to come out with one that's better! Have hundreds and hundreds of rounds through it and still like new for the 20 years I've had it. One of my MAIN CCW's in an Uncle Mike's front pocket holster! Keltec has been a fantastic innovator in firearms since the early 1990s but this "thing" they created here in this video is hideous!!