Which one do you prefer?

Sorry the Kel tec did so well. You could tell you guys didn’t want it to! Terribly biased toward the Taurus. Wouldn’t trade my p17 for anything else.

If you read the keltec manual it specifically says to slingshot the slide. The slide stop is not supposed to be used as a slide release.

They really didn't want to like the Kel-Tec! Fully loaded magazines vs half loaded mags in the Taurus. A stove pipe IS NOT a double feed. You have an empty case and the round that doesn't make it all the way into the chamber because of the stovepipe. That's all. Also, a faulty .22 round is not a "light primer strike." It is a bad round. Happens with .22 rimfire. A lot. And the "17th round" not feeding from the magazine? Hmmm. It only holds 16...so if he somehow forced 17 into it, he caused his own problem. Sounds a little prejudiced to me.

One advantage of the P17. I have both, but the P17 with the fiber-optic sight is more accurate. Also, the P17 (lighter and a little slimmer) with a kydex holster and lighter weight makes a better concealed carry gun with the same amount of rounds.

I couldn’t decide which I liked the most, so, lo and behold ,my wife bought both pistols for my Christmas. Not trading, nor selling my great wife. She has bought me 18 guns over the years, may be more, I just lost count. She enjoys seeing me smile with a new gun.

My p17 is rock solid. It shoots any kind of ammo. After about 250 rounds, I wipe it down and oil it. Very reliable, accurate and dependable. $230. 16 round magazines work best with 14 rounds.

My brand new P17 ran flawlessly using three different .22 ammo's in .36 & .40 Gr bullets. When I put a can on it, there was some lead blow-back, so you need to make sure you have eye protection on. With that said, the P17 ran perfectly with the can on it and cycled everything I put through it.

A couple years ago, I had planned on picking up a p17 but they were hard to come by. I ended up getting an OD green TX22 and I am so glad that I did. The reliability is second to none as far as rimfire semis go. Throw on a can and and $20 box of ammo and range days don’t get much better.

The P32 is not junk. Its one of the most reliable pistols they have made. Thats why its one of their longest running pistols. We have two of them and both have over 1,500 rounds through them and don't fail until the 350 round mark with no cleaning or lube. As soon as a failure to feed pops up around 350 rounds, I clean them quickly, add a few drops of oil, and they are back running perfectly for another 350 rounds. It will feed Hornady XTP hollow points flawlessly as well. Also i carried one, near the coast around salt water plus lots of sweat from humidity and hot summers in the south, and they still functioned fine and look good after literally thousands of days of daily carry. I work outside too, not in the a/c so mine stayed dirty and sweaty. My P32 is rock solid.

I love my p17 it’s accurate and I’ve never had any issues with it yet. I even went as far as buying the new slide they made that has the crimson trace red dot on it. Still no issues with it after the slide swap either. I have around 1300-1500 rounds through it

Greetings from Boise ID . An interesting test. I bought one of the TX22 compacts recently and fired over 600 rounds so far in my 1st session and love it. Used a combo of CCI and cheap ammo. Had only 1 light primer strike with the Win bulk ammo but no other issues. Very impressed especially for a $3k gun like this. I agree the trigger is great out the box. Nice vid guys.

Glad I found this video ! I have the TX 22 and have loved it , absolutely reliable ! I just bought the Kel-Tec but in good ole illinois I’ll have to wait until my 72 hours to pick it up. I think 22 lr semi auto pistols have come a long ways since my day. I’m excited to compare them side by side. I did hear something about charging the kel-tec by pulling the slide to the rear as opposed to using the slide stop/release. Not sure if that had anything to do with a couple of those first round FTF or not. It may say in the manual. Either way I loved the video and I’m going to subscribe. Hope to see many more. Great quality thank you gentlemen. I

I've watched quite a few videos that say the P17 runs the Remington golden bullet well. I'm considering buying a P17 just because it's unique. The magazines on the P17 look like they were made from leftover PEZ dispensers

The P17’s have 16rd mags. If you force 17 rounds in the mag and then attempt to chamber a round it won’t chamber. P17 = 1 in the chamber and 16 in the mag. I guess they could have kept everyone happy by calling it P16+1. I’m also wondering why the P17 mags were loaded to almost capacity or overloaded, but the Taurus mags were only loaded to 10 rounds, other than less chance for error with the Taurus? Both are fantastic additions to the 22LR pistol world. With the P17 commonly found for $180 nowadays, it’s hard to beat. I’ve had zero issues with my P17, but I only shoot HV 22LR ammo (CCI Mini Mag or Aguila Super High Velocity). I used to buy bulk ammo years ago but the frequent FTF or FTE round every 50 or so just wasn’t worth the $.01 per round savings for me.

It says in the owner manual of the p17 they recommend to chamber the 1st round by hand rather than using the slide release. My experience so far its basically flawless not using the slide release.

Here’s some good advice, get ‘‘em both! I like both and the Taurus TX 22 Competition.

I chose the Keltec because made in USA! Also smaller and super light weight! I ccw mine. I agree about the Keltec mags I purchased a loader on eBay.

Purchased 2 P17s, one for the wife and one for my son(secretly both for me). The wife has had not a single issue in a 1000+ rounds. My son's(1000+ rounds) often has FTEs unless it's squeaky clean. The Federal 325 in the tan box has been garbage in the P17 compared to Thunderbolt or Winchester X. Our experience, but again the wife's ran everything fine. I will say i love their customer service after they sent us a replacement front fiber optic sight for free when hers mysteriously fell out

I was actually looking at the P-32 Thanks for the heads up

Garbage in garbage out! We should all use the best quality ammo available.

I bought a new P17 and love the gun. It was very accurate right out of the box and the trigger was excellent. I also found that unless I give the butt of the magazine a hard tap when I put it in the gun that sometimes the first round may not go into the chamber. Eaxy fix if you just make sure the mag is fully in the gun. No issues beyond that. Shooting Federal Bulk lead ammo.

Thanks for this riview. Tx22 looks so light every single shoot.

I bought that taurus pistol. Had jams from every kind of ammo. Took it completely apart and found it is JUNK. I was breathless seeing what was actually in that gun. I have ONE 100% functioning Taurus. A G2 9mm G2C. As good as a Glock to carry. But every other Taurus ive purchased went back. The Slim worked for 6 months and is broke again. Two times sent back. Keltec makes some good guns and some garbage. You have to find out for yourself.

thanks for this!

I have two P17's. Love them.

I purchased My Two P17's last year and I liked the first one so much that I purchased another one about 4 months later! I have not experienced the problems that are shown in this Video but I have been using CCI Mini Mags, 40 Grain Copper Clad Bullets Only! I have shot almost 1000 rounds in Each Gun and I have experienced a few DUD Rounds but that's It! I have since Purchased a PMR30 and a CP33 and these two Guns have also proved to be Flawless! I switched to 22LR & 22 Mag Guns and I decided to Go with the Kel-Tec Platform all the way! If You Follow the Instructions and Suggestions in the User Guide, you will have a Fun & Flawless Shooting Experience! Note: I have never experienced A Keyhole with either of my P17's!

I have 12 tx 22s and two competition models over 100000 rounds shoots pretty much anything I put in in them now working with the tx22 c have little over 2000 through it and no problems so far

Both are sweet shooters

My P17 loves Aguilla for accuracy. She runs all regular bullets. No sub sonic.

I just got a P17, first time shooting it, out of the box, the mags are the only thing that needed breaking in, lol... the P17 went through virtually all ammo except the 710fps subsonics did not have enough to cycle... the 855 subs at 45gr did cycle just fine. 400rds in approximately with no real issues, any issues i did have was from really old bulk ammo that most 22lr have issues with and im trying to just use it up... The P17 I love it...

I watched a lot of guys showing their TX-22, and problems, ammo that's NOT copper coated leads to build up in the barrel its caused by heat build-up from rapid fire ! the led becomes soft & sticky in the barrel filling the groves . the signs of this are opened up groups and key holing because the groves are clogged up and the bullet isn't twisting . I've stuck with higher quality copper coated CCI Mini mag's 1235 around +/- 500rds so far, not one single problem so far , only run copper coated if possible , hotter ammo is better for cycling automatic. Save the led for your revolvers slower firing guns. ( You can check your lands & groves with a bore camera,. I do before and after I clean.). Happy shootn 🤠. Looking at the long holes in the target, bullets are tumbling, you should only see a hole, side sounds dry needs oil. Amazon bore snake camera $65

Does the P-17 have a plastic feed ramp like the Sub-2000?

Both great guns. accurate and fun to shoot . Kel Tec can shoot even junk ammo that Taurus and others 22 guns can't shoot. is much lighter and with much lighter trigger and smaller/narrower.

This is my experience with these 2 guns. A friend wanted to get my opinion on these 2 pistols. I didn't have any interest in either one. We got to the range I put 3 hundred rounds though each. I had no problems with the p17 and 5 jams out of the TX . My friend wanted my opinion. I picked the P17. He went on to tell me about all the trouble with his TX . He had sent the TX back 3 times . The P17 fit my hands much better. But I have extra large hand . I also was more accurate with the P17. So I bought the P17. I have put 3000 rounds though it no problem.

Well now this is a interesting video and a very interesting comparison. I do not own the Kel-Tec p17 but I do own a Taurus TX 22 competition and it has been very reliable. There is only one brand of ammo that for some reason my Taurus really doesn't care a lot for and that is the Remington Golden bullets in 22LR. It will feed them most of the time but if I'm going to have any problems with failure to feed jams of any types it's going to be with those.

I have the TX22 and really like it. I’m thinking about getting the P17 simply as a beater it is so freaking cheap. I also have the FN502 with a red dot on it. Really fun to shoot.

I run the TX 22 compact and I will match the reliability with any gun. I have ran about 10,000 rounds through it and I’ve probably had 5 failure to fire and I’m willing to bet that those five or due to the ammo

Just watched another vid on the p17. They had zero problems, exept with Federal ammo.

good job guys

Wondering why you didn't max out the mags on the taurus

I've been looking at the P17 for my wife. She's got really small hands and very tiny fingers (her ring finger is a size 4 if that gives you any indication). The P17 has that really small magazine making the grip appreciatingly more narrow. Plus, the weight of the P17 is very light. The lightest I seen. I've not really looked at the TX22. But looking at that magazine, I'm sure that the grip is considerably larger than the P17 and the gun is heavier just because of that larger magazine.

Taurus tx 22

It's. A good idea. To thoroughly clean a new pistol before filing it clean and oil it thoroughly.. My p seventeen works flawlessly with bulk ammunition

If you listed to what is said this is what happened. He had shot the first 16 rounds from the pistol. When he inserted the second magazine it was the 17th round ever loaded into the pistol that jammed. Not one from an overstuffed magazine. 4:07

It's best to get the suggested ammo for the p17

Cci stingers are the best man. I have a bunch of 22 and I cleaned my 1022 after not using it for prob ten years and putting it away super dirty after a weekend Appleseed marksmanship class. Really fun 22 only rifle class if you've never heard of them.

I would stay away from lead tip, as it is leading up the barrel, which is dam hard to clean.

P17 my every other day carry

The slide works more like a Makarov or waltherpp65

I agree on the Kel Tec grips, none of them are comfortable to me either. I had problems with the goldens too and even in my Ruger 10/22 rifle. I just bought some Norma 22 LR 1706 ms/fps and man do they shoot great! Try some if you get a chance.

I have not had any success with the Federal Automatch in any of my semi-auto .22 handguns. It does work great in my rifles, though. Among the best running 22 LR in my semi-auto handguns is the Aquila Super Extra, The Remington Thunderbolt and the Federal Blue or Red bulk pack hollow points.

Just got my TX22 Gen 2 and excited to give her range time. But after looking at TX22 videos it’s always compared to P17. Would love to try P17 in the future.

Own and carry the P17 and I can tell you from 3 boxes of experience anything Federal bulk is terrible. They are the only rounds that i have issues with in both my p17 and my Rossi rs22 rifle. I bought 1 box of automatch 40gr lead round nose and 2 boxes of the 38gr hollow points. Did fair better with the 38gr but I wouldn't recommend either of those. Seem to have good luck with the Winchester 333 round box along with the 50 round boxes. The 333 round box is 38gr hp and the 50 round white is 40gr lead round nose.

Yes but you didnt have the same amount of ammo in the mag as you did p17 . Could make a difference in Magazine issues 16 vs 16

There is a speed loader for the Taurus TX22, try it with the p17.

Tx22 is finicky about how you load magazine or you get feeding issues. Mine also shoots a bit high with rear sight at max adjustment. It also likes light lube on slide and cleaning after about 250 rounds.

Did you clean and lube both pistols before you shot them?

My P17 runs great with Aquila 38 grain copper plated supper extra hollow point. 1280 fps.

Good objective review for close comparison. Thanks.

I have them both p17 hands down!!!!!!

I have both

I like the Tx22 but those things cost more than a GX4. Which I have and I love it. Also have a G2c. Pretty great. So why is the .22 more expensive? Makes no sense to me

Both

I have both 6 of one half dozen the other

No body reads the book.it’s a slide stop, not a slide release. You pull the slide back to chamber first round. That’s why you get a failure to feed on second shot. The slide catch will wear out if you keep using it for a release, and then you wont have a slide catch

Try cleaning and lube the gun and mags BEFORE shooting and prevent issues. I see many people going to town with the P17 straight out of the box and having feed, eject issues.

My p17 just not like Federal auto match at all but shoots pretty much anything else

Taurus 👍

Taurus for the win!

Aside from reliability, taurus feels more like a “real” gun. P17 feels very cheap - because it is.

I have the p17 since two years ago, i use CCI Minimags or CCI Stingers to carry, this ammo have had never any malfunction on the range. In range days i have used cheaper ammo like browning lead head and that kind of slow lead head ammo causes many malfunctions. Copper head and high velocity bullets is what in my experience works better with p17

Keltec Manual says to use HIGH VELOCITY AMMO ....

Taurus tx22

Always, Always clean and lube New firearms & magazines. Why people think its smart to blame guns for not working out of the box is kind blowing!!! Would you carry your ccw out of the box?? HELL NO!! So WTF??? Unbelievable.

I never buy lead tip bullets. NEVER.

P17 hands down

That p17 appear to have trouble stabilizing some of that ammo

I do believe if you are going to do a review on a firearm especially on a pistol. You should be able to handle the awesome recoil of that explosive.22 lr. Hard to believe these guys are serious and this isn’t a joke

I am commenting early in video when you dropped slide on P17. That is a slide stop not to chamber a round. I wish people would learn proper way in certain guns. It's even said by Keltec on this matter. I have both guns and both have ran great

You didn’t fully load the taurus mags!

Failure to chamber when using the slide release is not as rare as you might think!

Run the same ammo in each gun for a fare comparison.

P17 hands down.

Honeztly I like the keltec better

4:07 Thats a 16 round mag, you cant put in 17 rounds otherwise it jams on chambering. The gun holds 17 rounds TOTAL, 16 in the mag, you chamber # 16 and top off the mag with another 1 for a total of 16 in the mag + 1 in the chamber

i love the taurus way better metal top doesn feel like a toy. idk.

Shouldn’t of adjusted the sights on the Kel-tec P17!😂

it's hard to beat the TX22 for reliably, accuracy, trigger and just fun, but the P17 does have it's place.

It is NOT A SLIDE RELEASE! Read the instructions. It is a slide hold back!!!

Bro they are 16 round mags not 17. When you pit 17 you made the gun jam

P17 isway more accurate and convenient than my tx 22. Never had a malfunction in p17.. makes me think your " review" is faux

Your P17 is keyholing. Send it back to keltec for a new barrel.

ON THE 17TH ROUND, WE MADE AN OPERATOR ERROR, hall of shame for you guys, it's a slide stop, not a slide release, you are supposed to slingshot it to keep from wearing the part out.

Had volume all the way up trouble hearing

You didn't have a failure to chamber, you had a failure to operate correctly. Read the manuel.slingshot it.

I've never owned a 22LR rimfire semi-auto in my life that wasn't a royal pain in the butt.

Dude not a bad shot but could do alot better if he didn't flinch when he pulls the trigger. Fist shot every time he almost jumps. It's just a 22. So at 7 yards with my beloved p17 I could pick one of those numbers on your target and make it dissappear with a single mag. Ive never had to touch the sights. You should have received a test target with your pistol proving it's sighted in and they test at 60 feet. Also your p17 came with a manual that clearly states the need for high velocity ammo. I'd thi k two guys who know everything would have known that. If you wouldn't have had budget ammo at first ol p17 woulda ran like a champ the whole time.

Need to pull the slide back and let it fly on the p17 recommended not hit the release should have learned the 1st time

Wow what a long video, wake me up when you come to your conclusion