I think exactly the same, you know what you're talking about

The judges score based on the comparison of the other competitors in that ring. Nine being the very best to 1 being the least.

My comment still stands. I doubt anyone competing with Mr. Wallace could do that fourth degree form to that caliber.

@@NarniaKing-nn2kh - I have been judging ATA tournaments for 20 years now. I can tell you from experience that one of the toughest divisions to judge is the 18-29 year old Men's 4th & 5th degree division. Especially at large tournaments like Nationals, Worlds and even large A regionals. The level of competition and quality in the 18-29 4th and 5th degree can be such where the difference between the competitors can hinge on a stance here, a joint set up there, etc. I do not dispute the fact that Mr. Wallace's form is excellent and if I were judging him at a mid-term or rank testing, I would have no problem with giving him the full 4 points on his form. Since I didn't see Mr. Wallace's competitors' forms, I didn't see what his judges see and compared. Scoring a 9, 8, 7 at TOC is quite excellent and if that was enabled him to win World Champion, then I am very happy for him. Besides, I have seen people actually win with scores as low as 6's and 7's. There is nothing in the ATA rulebook that requires a judge to give 8's and 9's. As long as he or she is consistent with their scores and it appeared his judges were.

One of the reasons I left the ATA was due to the subjective opinion of people judging tournaments. I’ve pursed BJJ where you can lose to point, being choked out, or joint locked. Mr. Wallace is one helluva technician-a prodigy. Only a bozo would fail to see it.

Each of his movements are so sharp, and his stances are incredible- I can only dream of that kind of skill, but given he's a 4th degree I bet he's had a lot of time to really perfect his techniques.

You can find breakdowns of it on KZfaq, and ATA has a book as well that has each form written down move by move.

No, it is ATA Taekwondo.

ATA

In this organization the World Champions are rewarded with red letters saying "World Champion" on their back. No matter the opinion on that, it's a great accomplishment.

@@joeynbecky The organization is pretty big and the bigger tournaments like this have big rings. At worlds at least, there are people from the international branches competing as well, so regardless of what your opinions on the ATA are, there's at the very least a good handful of talented people like this within the organization that deserve to be recognized for their skill within and outside of ATA.

@@bombdotcom2168 well said.