Team Black S2 Preview! House of the Dragons Season 2 Character Breakdown

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David Lightbringer

David Lightbringer

19 күн бұрын

@girlnettles joins me to discuss Team Black in season 2 - we’ll preview each characters (& the dragons of course), and discuss their allies, strategies, advantages, and disadvantages. We’ll have plenty of polls for the chat to vote on, so don’t miss it!
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@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 17 күн бұрын
I’m so glad you had GirlNettles back on because she creates really interesting back and forth with you, and that’s what it’s all about, baby! Exchange of ideas, when you have a guest on. I think the last time she was on she provided a ton of perspective that you definitely hadn’t considered before, I think having a woman’s perspective is incredibly relevant for literally any ASOIAF discussion because GRRM deals a lot with gender roles in the story and Netlles brings new details to the forefront and gets everybody to consider things in new lights, which creates great dialogue between the two of you! Some people just have good talking chemistry and so I was very glad to see you were having her back on😊❤
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 17 күн бұрын
thank you, Nettles is absolutely fantastic. I myself am still trying to get better at disagreeing without being disagreeable? if you will? it's something I've always been bad at but I am getting better by putting conscious effort into. People do like to hear different opinions for sure, especially when so many podcasts are... for lack of a better word, "a bunch of white guys." HotD has many characters with many perspectives so it's good to have different sets of eyes to spot things :)
@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 17 күн бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer hahaha I totally understand the “disagreeing without being disagreeable” thing. You don’t have to share conclusions after assessing the same information; I can tell that you’re putting in effort in specifically that, because you’re deeply invested in your own theories, which I very broadly agree with mostly across the board, and you seem to handle it well when someone has a differing opinion. At least from where I’m standing. Meaning, it probably feels more awkward to you than it does to listeners. 😊👍🏽
@girlnettles
@girlnettles 16 күн бұрын
This was unbelievably nice to say. Thank you for seeing me 🙏 It’s good vibes all around. Talking about the series is the best part of my life so far. I have so much passion for every inch of this series. I’m glad to be collabing with Dave because he is even more passionate than me. And he is very emotionally intelligent and has lived life in a way that allows him to be a great friend. He has the American point of view that I’m interested in hearing about.
@LGManDee
@LGManDee 17 күн бұрын
Nettles served theories and LOOKS today. She ate. As always.😍
@SoCalledGodess
@SoCalledGodess 17 күн бұрын
If you're gonna add new Squisher emojis, might I humbly suggest a blue rose
@malekartorian3054
@malekartorian3054 16 күн бұрын
Nettles has the prettiest makeup. Shes so coooooolll
@TheFreakavelli
@TheFreakavelli 16 күн бұрын
Daemon is the way he is cause he’s a loyal second son to a fault. His out bursts as chaotic as they may be at times come from him being a 2nd son and taking the duty of putting his family first at all costs and then getting absolutely nothing out of it.
@keveyson
@keveyson 17 күн бұрын
Missed the very end of this cause of playoff hockey, but great work as always. Nettles never disappoints.
@thatwitchychick2717
@thatwitchychick2717 16 күн бұрын
I feel like Corlys wouldn't turn on Rhaenerya because of their grandchildren. Going team green would automatically put them on the other side of the conflict against their own grandchildren and their father. I think the grand kids are the only reason they bothered to fight at all.
@girlnettles
@girlnettles 16 күн бұрын
Yes, you’re making a good point. Let me stew on this 🤔
@SweetSummerChild67
@SweetSummerChild67 15 күн бұрын
Girl Nettle's smile lights up the screen whenever she's on. What a great team, David & Nettles. But Cristin Cole is not better than Jon Snow! 😂
@LordJakobofHouseBabrick
@LordJakobofHouseBabrick 17 күн бұрын
Didn't get a chance to ask live. Has anyone noticed how Vhagar looks just like a kamodo dragon? I'm sure I'm not the first to say it. However, I watched a video with kamodos this week. That's when it hit me like a ton of bricks. I didn't have anyone to share it with, so it's going here. After hearing the very small dragon type conversions, it gave me an excuse to put it in the comments, hahaha.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 17 күн бұрын
I bet the VFX artists took cues from the natural world to add a sense of truth to the dragons. It must be a lot of fun to research and blend different aspects of real animals and then take those designs in a fantasy direction. And actually I'd not seen anyone make this comparison before but now that you said it I can totally see it
@anorangetabby
@anorangetabby 17 күн бұрын
I didn't notice it until you brought it up! Great observation!
@AMbradfordfilms
@AMbradfordfilms 16 күн бұрын
Yes, very kamodo dragon, monitor lizard look
@queenpersephone9685
@queenpersephone9685 14 күн бұрын
Yes! I love the diversity in the dragons!
@efrent-vr3bm
@efrent-vr3bm 17 күн бұрын
It's nice to hear LML say that the greens did steal Rhaenyra's throne Great stream LML and Girl Nettles 7️⃣ weeks till HotD
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 16 күн бұрын
Jace probably was the best king Westeros never had. So wise for his age
@h.j.grande1194
@h.j.grande1194 14 күн бұрын
2:08:16 YES totally agree with Nettles there. It makes so much sanse on why Rhaenys will be going to Rooks Rest only because Rhaenyra will be flying around plotting ravange and there's no one else in charge in Dragonstone. Brilliant!!
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 16 күн бұрын
Every stream gets better with Nettles
@therunningman_
@therunningman_ 16 күн бұрын
More GirlNettles! Thanks for anothier amazing stream, Dave!
@rena7123
@rena7123 17 күн бұрын
Great fun, great team. Enjoying the rewatch for the second half. Loved Nettles🐲 - as always. Polls are fun to spice up the discussion 😅
@klarakhan
@klarakhan 4 күн бұрын
Just realized the "There must always be a Stark in Winterfell" mirrors the "There must sit a Targaryen on the Iron Throne."
@hinakhodiyara7883
@hinakhodiyara7883 17 күн бұрын
Epic breakdown. Love listening to your theories. Always leaves me coming back for more. Thanks David and girl Nettles :)
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 17 күн бұрын
Heynonny henonny ho. This stream will sustain til s2 of the show!
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 17 күн бұрын
David talking about Ice and Longclaw makes it sound like they are too heavy. Real swords are lighter than people imagine. He mentions how the katana is half the weight of Longclaw. A katana is around approximately 3 pounds, a longsword should be around the same weight, while a zweihander isn't even double that. He's describing Longclaw as heavier than a real world zweihander. That's a problem with a lot of TV and films, they often make the weapons too big and too heavy compared to real world ones. I'm assuming they do it because they look more impressive on the screen.
@hibiscus779
@hibiscus779 13 күн бұрын
Exactly. And hand-and-a-half swords are actually SHORTER than longswords (which are made for two-handed use). All this heavy plate in this universe - pole arms would be the ideal weapons here, not swords.
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 13 күн бұрын
@@hibiscus779 Indeed. I find it strange that longswords are so common in TV and films when they had such a limited time in the real world. Aye, pole arms would be good, but I think more for the rank and file. Knights would wield what they mostly did in history; hammers, maces, poleaxes. ie bludgeoning weapons. (but not as stupidly oversized as Gendry's) I am waiting for the day that people stop doing to idiotic slashing across a plate breastplate with a sword and killing their opponant.
@darrellwalker4053
@darrellwalker4053 16 күн бұрын
Night gathers and my watch begins
@thelateescapist8266
@thelateescapist8266 16 күн бұрын
Show Rhaenyra in season 1 at least seems to be more motivated by serving the realm than claiming the throne. She did consider accepting the peace terms of the Greens.
@masterbezeled
@masterbezeled 17 күн бұрын
Awesome stream. I tuned in late but it’s relaxing to listen in the studio. Thanks David and Nettles.
@girlnettles
@girlnettles 16 күн бұрын
👋 Hello love 💕 Fancy meeting you here!
@twiss9341
@twiss9341 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for this 👍
@meganinthemountains
@meganinthemountains 16 күн бұрын
Thinking now, Rhaenys could have burnt up the greens and claimed the throne as her own.
@noahh2338
@noahh2338 16 күн бұрын
Another banger stream! And you had the moon of my life as your cohost!❤ love ya both
@anorangetabby
@anorangetabby 17 күн бұрын
Yes, yes, Nettles was entertaining, but Dave, you always bring the fun! Your jokes and witty comebacks were on point tonight, my good ser! Thank you for continuing to make Sunday evenings such a mentally stimulating and thoroughly enjoyable start to my week! You are delightful! ♥️♥️
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 17 күн бұрын
On the subject of Game Of Thrones episodes coinciding with significant dates, I remember watching a reaction channel where the (very shockable, very emotional) lady running it began with a speil something like this: "Oh yes and before we start, this video will be going up on Mother's Day, so I'd like to dedicate it to all the mothers out there. Love you all. Love you Mom. Anyway, let's get right into it, so this is Game Of Thrones, Season Three, Episode Nine, The err, what is it? Oh yes, 'The Red Wedding'..." oops... 🤣🤣🤣
@mercedesgazda1635
@mercedesgazda1635 16 күн бұрын
i always miss the livestreams but look forward to the uploaded version !
@yomamma.ismydaddy216
@yomamma.ismydaddy216 12 күн бұрын
The way I interpreted raineys not bowing in those scenarios was that she needed to wait for corlys to decide with him what they were going to do before she chose to bow in service
@thelateescapist8266
@thelateescapist8266 16 күн бұрын
Daemon will be a better teammate to Rhaenyra than he was to Viserys because she will let him be. Viserys' error in dealing with his brother was trying to stifle his brother's darker tendencies rather than directing them.
@girlnettles
@girlnettles 15 күн бұрын
I agree 💯
@ShelbyOfOldStones
@ShelbyOfOldStones 11 күн бұрын
I think so too. Viserys saw his brother as a ‘true to the bone’ Targaryen dragonlord and was always just a little intimidated/jealous of him. Viserys chose Balerion because he wasn’t comfortable with the idea of having a dragon long term but wanted the credibility riding the Black Dread gave him.
@IOSARBX
@IOSARBX 17 күн бұрын
David Lightbringer, Subscribed because your videos are always awesome!
@pauldaskal9510
@pauldaskal9510 16 күн бұрын
Grey Waste Tim and Nettles would be prime viewing
@cheyennem9218
@cheyennem9218 15 күн бұрын
Watching this late but "I would've made an omelette out of that egg. I would've been like, bitch if you're not gonna hatch, I'm gonna eat you" took me outtt lmfao
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 16 күн бұрын
On the swords: medieval swords were usually not that heavy 1-3 pounds usually. Guns are not really lighter. Also, it is actually rather easy to gain the basic strength one would need for basic fighting
@HaldirMark
@HaldirMark 17 күн бұрын
Imma wait til i get to my laptop to explatiate, but LML you got greatswords wrong. In terms of reproductions, the "sword community" distinguishes between swords and "sword-like objects" (or wall-hangers). Ironically, Girl Nettles spoke about that her Longclaw just hangs on her wall. I dont know the quality of instrument the Longclaw or Ice that you tested out were, but they sound like wall-hangers. Katanas feel light because of where the points if balance and rotation and percussion are. Same with European swords. If youre over/about six foot you can defo lift and manoeuvre a greatsword with ease. Now how long for is a different issue, as you pointed out with strength, stamina and training being necessities to be good at it, but if it felt like a big ol' iron bar in your hands, it was probably just that, and not a sword at all, but a wallhanger. A european sword is not a club. Longclaw specifically is supposed to be able to be used either one or two-handed. (I'm not a Europhile; europe pillaged my country of origin for centuries. Just tryna clarify)
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 17 күн бұрын
What's explatiate mean? I looked it up but can't find any definition.
@HaldirMark
@HaldirMark 17 күн бұрын
@@ThommyofThenn caribbean expression. Elaborate in a verbose manner, let's say. (Yes, i meant more verbose than ive already been) 🙃
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 17 күн бұрын
@@HaldirMark Ha! Thank you my friend and it was interesting reading about swords here. This is a good place to talk about them
@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon
@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon 12 күн бұрын
I think Rhaena will try to claim Vermithor. I believe that’s why Daemon went to the dragon and sang him the Valyrian lullaby… to help his daughter claim a dragon. A big, old dragon.
@antjestube8774
@antjestube8774 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for keeping it real!!
@summerdaze390
@summerdaze390 9 күн бұрын
Just here to point out to the “undergrads shouldn’t be fighting wars” bit that the majority of the US/UK/Canadian/IDF militaries are currently that 17-24 year-old demographic. Just a bit of modern perspective, loving the vid so far.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 9 күн бұрын
indeed!
@Birdbrainz420
@Birdbrainz420 15 күн бұрын
Amazing as always thank you!
@colebrock596
@colebrock596 14 күн бұрын
Alicent gave Aegon the dagger before he was coronated
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 14 күн бұрын
ah that's true
@maryarmstrong2231
@maryarmstrong2231 16 күн бұрын
I am going back to watch her first now❤
@klarakhan
@klarakhan 14 күн бұрын
1:01:30 I kinda thought Rhaenyra already told Jace about the prophecy some time during their time on dragonstone. There’s something about the way he is so passionate about learning the targaryen language, he seems very singleminded, kinda how a person would become once they realize how heavy their responsibilities are.
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 11 күн бұрын
It also gives him legitimacy - so there's two reasons for his passion
@klarakhan
@klarakhan 10 күн бұрын
@@Slechy_Lesh Not sure what you mean, what is it that gives him legitimacy, in your opinion? The prophecy?
@AnnabelTheGoldsmith
@AnnabelTheGoldsmith 16 күн бұрын
Wagwaaaan asoiaf mythology praise garth fam! About to catch up 🤘✌❤
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 17 күн бұрын
Yey Nettles!
@jaythebookfiend1541
@jaythebookfiend1541 2 күн бұрын
GirlNettles bringing the 🔥 ‘fit again! *swoons* lmfao Lml, you might not’ve got Nettles, but you two together got this house’s first collective coffee choke in a month with Catfish!Cregan. Whose stream props get haunted to party-up HotD 2’s finale if you keep slayin’?
@ZackThoreson
@ZackThoreson 14 күн бұрын
Just rewatched your deep ones video and had a thought: When I see this theory, I think of how it has to relate to the others and the main story. The MO of both is pretty related. Farming humans for reproduction, and receiving worship. Perhaps it is a parallel, or perhaps it is related. Could these deep ones be some more literal form of “sea others”? If the basics spirit holding and transfer is common on land, could there be similar mechanism below the waves? I specially like the idea of the others being some sort of icy shadow babies. Could these deep ones be some kind of watery ghosts? Or perhaps water undead?
@GehennaDreams13
@GehennaDreams13 10 күн бұрын
I really don’t think they are going to take away Daemon’s moment over the God’s Eye.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 10 күн бұрын
no chance
@alyswesthill3562
@alyswesthill3562 13 күн бұрын
Can't believe this is only just now occurring to me... But Rhaena and Baela were in King's Landing with Rhaenys for that family dinner. If Rhaenys was still there to be locked up during the coup, surely Baela and Rhaena were too...? Plot hole? Or am I missing something. Makes sense that Baela would've gone back to Dragonstone with Rhaenyra et al, but Rhaena was there with Rhaenys as her ward, no?
@lowdog2940
@lowdog2940 15 күн бұрын
As far as fire and blood goes all Rhaenyra had to do is jump on Syrax and Dracarys one time, and she could’ve had her throne, and the dragons wouldn’t have died… I’m just saying.
@jayt24368
@jayt24368 11 күн бұрын
Nettles just casually droppin huge spoilers
@hsheeld
@hsheeld 6 күн бұрын
Jace can’t have the dagger. Aegon has it in his hands in the trailer.
@haileyfuentes6785
@haileyfuentes6785 12 күн бұрын
Nettles!! It’s been so long!
@WeirwoodNet
@WeirwoodNet 16 күн бұрын
Team black ⚫🐲🔥
@notjeremy2871
@notjeremy2871 16 күн бұрын
Imagine the irony if the kids come from vaemond
@jetblk2834
@jetblk2834 12 күн бұрын
Wait so Mother AND Father from raised by wolves is in HOTD?!
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 16 күн бұрын
1:35:00
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 11 күн бұрын
2:17:00
@ToucanBinks
@ToucanBinks 17 күн бұрын
👍
@moiraferreira
@moiraferreira 15 күн бұрын
@brunopereira6789
@brunopereira6789 13 күн бұрын
Rhaenys the Queen't
@manyeyedcrow9391
@manyeyedcrow9391 16 күн бұрын
To me, Targaryens are like modern billionaires, they have unequaled power to make their smallest whims come to life and change the lives of countless small folk. I am kind of with the Maesters and Bernie Sanders on this, no human beings should have power like this, and the Dance is a study in all the ways such power in the hands of individual, unaccountable human beings is untenably dangerous.
@girlnettles
@girlnettles 16 күн бұрын
Mayhaps! 🤔 But what about those of us who already have dragons? What are we supposed to do with our dragons?
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 16 күн бұрын
Targaryens were not particularly exceptional for any of the feudal dynasties of westeros
@manyeyedcrow9391
@manyeyedcrow9391 16 күн бұрын
@@sinthoras1917 Well, except for the dragons
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 16 күн бұрын
@@manyeyedcrow9391 yes, but not in cruelty or arbitrariness etc
@manyeyedcrow9391
@manyeyedcrow9391 16 күн бұрын
@@girlnettles a dragon tax! For every Rhaenys, there is an Elo… I mean Aegon.
@Darksun93
@Darksun93 16 күн бұрын
for the algorithm 🔪lol
@lowdog2940
@lowdog2940 16 күн бұрын
Girl nettles so pretty, and her voice is seductive David I love you, but I would kill to be able to talk to her one on one about the song of ice and fire
@manofhonor1685
@manofhonor1685 16 күн бұрын
Im a big 2A guy, i own a bunch of guns, and I totally agree. I wish guns didn’t exist and we only had swords/bows lol. Medieval tech. Way more skillful, less destructive. More personal. War/killing is so detached these days. BUT! In the favor of guns, guns make it so an old man can defend himself against a young strong criminal. They’re the equalizer. In medieval times if a young man wanted to rob an old man or murder him there would be nothing he can do. Other than that: swords > guns
@lange-a-rang3379
@lange-a-rang3379 17 күн бұрын
I’m against Rhaenya because I’m team small folk. She killed hundreds of innocents, but didn’t kill the people about to provoke a war and get thousands more killed. She’s as bad as any selfish high lord.
@LauraGS564
@LauraGS564 16 күн бұрын
This Team Smallfolk is a great way to hide your Team Green bias.
@manofhonor1685
@manofhonor1685 16 күн бұрын
I don’t understand how people can be team black, Rhaenyra had bastard children. The only fault of team green is alicent being a scheming b****. Same with her father. But the truth is the truth and you can’t have a bastard born of cheating out of wedlock on the throne. I can maybe see the argument being made that her son Aegon should sit the throne because he’s a legitimate heir from her and Daemon. But by that point she’s already committed crimes that make her worthy of execution by westerosi law
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 16 күн бұрын
Get outta here, misogynist
@LauraGS564
@LauraGS564 13 күн бұрын
Oh yes and Team Green is full of saints. Otto literally manipulated his daughter which Alicent does the same with Aegon while also abusing him. Aegon is literally a rapist, and Aemond is a genocidal maniac. The only fault of Team green is Alicent being scheming, so Larys killing his family, Criston being a pathological murderer and Otto being a scheming person means nothing then? You are insanely deluded.
@smpk9667
@smpk9667 5 күн бұрын
Since you are still recommending feyfire ill have to mention that she went full mask off q-anon maga election denial mode on a since privated livestream, link to it can be found on a patreon post of hers from April 20th. I had to unsubscribe from her channel.
@manofhonor1685
@manofhonor1685 16 күн бұрын
You guys are so painfully liberal. “You cant vote for kanye! You cant vote for RFK jr!” Someone jokes “the poll was rigged i demand a recount “ “you cant joke about that!” Get over yourselves.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 16 күн бұрын
seems like maybe you're the one having trouble with the jokes and taking them too seriously? lol
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