Except she even claims nothing was written down and everything was verbal so it’s literally he said she said ...I recommend watching the Emily D video on it since she’s a lawyer and can really break it down

@@mackenziewilliams4507 the westbrooks stated that there was nothing written down in regards to one of those claims tho, which i believed was noting that there was no official agreement to launch everything under Halo. I did watch emily d baker a few days before this, shes super credible especially with her law background

MacKenzie Williams The same goes to him however, he has no signed contract so easily could be lying about everything.

@@mackenziewilliams4507 Watch Emilys video at around the 17 min mark ... you can see that there is a statement saying that there was no official documentation of an agreement. That’s literally the only time in the video where they state there was no documentation, it’s not just “he said she said.”

@@mackenziewilliams4507 Clearly you did not watch Emily D Baker's video lol...

Period

But not the right receipts! 🥴 she proved a lot that shows another side, however it’s still he said she said so there’s no way to know the truth until there is more discovery

@@mackenziewilliams4507 But doesn’t that prove tati’s case bc if what Clark says was only a verbal agreement, then what Tati is saying is more credible.

@@mackenziewilliams4507 lmfao did tati piss in your cheerios?

Yup as always

I mean, people have doubts after what she did to James 🤷🏾‍♀️

@@chocolatechips. What she did to James is completely different to this

Shouldn't people learn by now not to jump to conclusions and hear both sides first? No one learn from what happen to James Charles?

@@candyvianey5472 True, but see how quick she was to collect receipts and evidence for this situation. If the allegations were true, she would have receipts for the video. Although in my opinion, if she did have evidence, she should've went to the proper authorities instead of KZfaq 🤷🏾‍♀️

This woman is so disengenous - I just can't

OR maybe, MAYBE, there is a difference between an actual lawsuit and some public friend drama on youtube

@@annieno1 good point. Unrelated note, I honestly felt like Swanson's lawsuit was unprofessionally worded. But then again, I'm not a lawyer 🤷

Agreed. Im honestly absolutely done with her. I wouldnt purchase anything from her but she did pull up with reciepts. Good for her

@@annieno1 or maybe the difference is, this time she actually HAS receipts...

@@annieno1 there’s a lawsuit there too remember?

Nah Tati is catty supporting her husband stealing from ppl

Idk but I just read the "das suspicious..." in Bailey's voices😂

@@sadnesslake more like "suspish"

I don't believe Swanson, never did, never will

@@pixelscanon who is her husband stealing from? If you’re talking about the lawsuit in Hawaii. Actually look into and not just believe what WOACB spread.

I hope the don't because to be honest, they entertain me lol

Rgiht? I remember 10 yrs ago...no beauty drama

People with money are never drama free. There's always someone trying to get a piece of their pie. Now that you tubers make $$ the drama is here to stay

that would be the end of channels like this onee ☹️

🌝let’s not act like we don’t like the drama 🙃 because ... I DO😭😎

Naomi, u shaddy but IM HERE FOR IT!

Hahahahaha

Lmaoaoaoo

lol

Lol that's what i was thinking Swanson really thought he would stand a chance with his weak ass lawsuit against a beauty guru with experience of drama xD

You mean like how Johnny Depp had a solid case? Sadly apperently that doesn't mean you win the lawsuit...

@@sandravermeulen9729 right. I feel so bad for him

@@sandravermeulen9729 Wait, what? What have I missed there?

@@bjelln he got falsely accused of assault when there was a leaked audio of the girl saying she abuses him and said “hit me back” or something. she basically lied for money

@@sandravermeulen9729 amber is still an abuser as well

same here lmaaoo

everytime!!

I have my own little choreography for it

I always put her videos on 1.25 speed and the music is a lot more catchy

Same 😂

Yea, because this "drama" which effects us in no way shape or form, is as stressful as our country going to shit, our rights slowly getting taken away, and dealing with a corrupt government. KZfaq drama vs socialism, fraud, communism 🤔

Not so sure. He will show his receipts in court. Showing your hand before playing is not so smart.

@@angelikapotree2741 if it was not a good idea showing evidence before court i'm sure her lawyers would've told her not too

@@t4z464 What evidence? She was tearing his character and credibility. She didn't show any business-related document related to money or their original agreement. Late - payment - it happens in every company from time to time and it's nothing serious, shrinking his responsibilities - she did it too by posting bye sister video. Most of the important evidences in this case are confidential, so they can't be added to court document at this level yet. Fact are - he invested money - and he is losing it thank too Tati ( last year for example - how many vitamins she could sell when she didn't post almost anything for a year?)

Angelika potree you have to submit evidence to the judge during pre-trial and opposing counsel can try to get it kicked out. So regardless, the guy’s attorneys would have this info and would already be coming up with an adequate cross

@@angelikapotree2741 "She didn't show any business-related document related to money or their original agreement" not sure if this is public domain so she may not be allowed to show this info, but on court is different. Instead of people pointing wich one is right or wrong we should let the judge do their job. lol

if only she didnt make that bye sister video ;-;

@@papasscooperiaworker3649 yeah, I could never unsubscribe, cause she was the first person to make me really love makeup, but could not watch her anymore after that damn video either 🤦🏼‍♀️

@@moonchild977 you get it girl, this is exactly how I feel 😭😭

I miss her. She apologized and JC forgave her. I wish people would let it go so we have her videos again.

@@allisonmb1930 exactly my thoughts. JC forgave her and I still think she is one of the best one in the community. She is a human being for heaven sakes. She isn’t perfect and who here never made a big mistake? I ain’t no saint and others deserve to have chances. People forgive other trash and move on, but they are so harsh with women. Ugh

I think so too. Like she was already going through too much and exploded at James.

I think so too. It's inexcusable, but still. I think we understand now.

i feel like she was more personally affected by james promoting sugar bear hair specifically because of all this stuff that was going on behind the scenes,, its clear to see she ADORED him, especially considering the amount of money she invested into him and his channel,, she was just the easy target :(

Absolutely.

@forever.nayeon period omg

I don't know what WOCB means but I immediately thought Wombat of Crooked Break like some olde tyme fairy tail 😂

@@kristenefox7001 lol It’s a KZfaqr called Without a Crystal Ball that Tati‘s suing for defamation.

@@lizziepols4057 ohhh right i remember seeing on instagram she's going after a channel. Thanks for explaining 🤣

@@lizziepols4057 she sued Jeffree too ? I missed so much drama

@@jelly4074 I don’t think she sued Jeffree that I know of. Just this smaller channel Without a Crystal Ball. But that chick on the small channel is cray. Lol

SCALDING

It’s like *LAVA*

Fr thou 🍵🔥

It’s hotter than boiling water! 🔥

Emily D. Baker is amazing lol 🖤🖤

Such an under rated word. I'm going to try to use it more in conversations. Yikes!

@@oliviagrahammake-upservice7480 idk if illuminaughtii is the first I heard say “yikes on trikes” but it’s also a good one :)

these are by the lawyer credited in the beginning!

@@EllaCharlie Correct, she's awesome, I only discovered her last month. I've binge watched so many of her videos.

You should check out Emily's channel! Shes a former DA who breaks down the submitted suits

I don't know why, but I smiled reading this...this is such a wholesome comment 💕💕💕

I am a lawyer and this interests me lol

@@geraldinef5532 ay ty

@@katiearcher4475 omg I’d love to!

Same 💀

Me too ! Moustache and all

She is only human at the end of the day :)

Agreed!!

Sis I just commented and was scrolling then I saw you pinned me!! Edit: *Hearted thanks for those who corrected me :D

@@luvjnell she didnt pin you.. She hearted your comment

@@yaaassbitch8704 that's the same thing

@@luvjnell Pinning is when you're pinned to the top to the comment chain, there's a variety of options for creators nowadays to cherish comments

@@Nina-cd6uw oooh Thanks

Thankyou!

@ub3rsc00ber exactly lol

I dont think theres a single beauty guru that anyone actually watches for their makeup, its all for the drama

I think you mean bots not drones lol

Omg I love her !!

@@TeaSpill Why aren’t captions available on this video? It’s the only way I can actually watch KZfaq because of a hearing disability so this is frustrating!

@@christina5kids16grands was wondering same!

@@christirowland858 I don’t know if there’s another way to get them other than finding that link on every other video used to turn the captions on. If someone knows another way, I’d love some help. I know this isn’t a life or death situation 😂but I really was interested in watching this video to see what she has dug up. I did look at other videos of Tea Spill’s and the caption option is there! Maybe it was an oversight or something 🤷🏼‍♀️

*grabs a snack *

Pop the popcorn grab my dog and put a chocolate bar on the table.

not with james

@@emmajohnson8557 I was like “as usual?” Her most infamous conflict became notorious for lacking receipts... 😂 Regardless of other issues she may have responded to, her apology for misleading people, and verity of a number of those claims in retrospect, “as usual” is a bit too far when she didn’t for the most serious set of allegations she made, leaving herself open for counter arguments and consequently making it so much harder for the actual victims (not the clout-chasing catfishers/liars who provide James with the excuses to discredit all allegations) to come forward. I’m all for leaving mistakes in the past, but I draw the line at rewriting/misframing history.

🐷

They didn't do their hw on him because he was a trusted friend of theirs. That's why you don't usually do business with your friends. It usually always turns out bad

@@elizabethc2856 good point and good life lessons

@@elizabethc2856 you’re so right about that!!! I still don’t have any use for Tati after her not taking any accountability for her own actions in the James Charles situation, but she’s in the right here!!!!

@@themasqueradefiles no she's actually not.. she has yet to apologize to Shane and Jeffree !!! I swear it's all the female beauty channels bringing all the drama... They all need to quit youtube honestly

@@sonycrom1 Shane and Jeffrey have their own problems lmao, blackface and pedophilia claims much?? Besides, @Saloma Simmons is talking about the lawsuit, not Jeffrey and Shane.

@@dramaticvirghoe the risk of one is losing money, the risk of the other (as Tati herself stated) was a teenager killing himself.. so...

To this day I’m still waiting on that vol 2 despite all this.

For real! 🙌

For real it’s wonderful

It’s the absolute best!!

I love it. It’s the first pallet that made me love using black!!

What are they then? I'm really curious 👀🍿

Are you confusing this with the WOACB suit?

A? 0.0 spill the tea

You go so true

Did they know that after the fact I wonder...

If i understood correctly they knew he was bad at managing his own money. That he had not invested his own money in Halo beauty. That's why they had the meeting making him less important in the company. But then they put him as chief financial officer. Makes zero sense to me.

Oh you be surprised that this happens a lot in the corporate world. They can be excellent at their job but crap with themselves.

Same as you can be an accountant but not good with how you handle your OWN money.

I think they didn’t find that out until later. 🥺

Period ✨

I agree

*made not done

Yeah agree. Just because she had been in the wrong doesnt mean shes always gonna do wrong through and through. I wish people online werent so judgmental with people they only know through social media and not even in real life

Agreed!! I still like her despite all the drama that happened last year.

I think the only person 2020 is going well for is Jeff Bezos

Karma

@@littlecakes123 I see no lie here

She’s suing people for millions of dollars and the ball is in her court so id say she’s winning

I actually think it goes well, she turned the tables in her favour, cleared her name and it seems that she is going to win in the court

I miss her. Her pallet is amazing too.

Please keep ya bodily functions to yaself, thanks boo 😘

😂😂😂😂

@@ccisthesekxs There is nothing wrong with any bodily function. Its was a perfectly timed joke. She isn't detailing her cycle in depth, even if she was it doesn't matter. Scroll on, mind ya own business. 😘

🤣🤣🤣

Girl!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

She's like the boy who cried wolf.. always the victim . I wouldn't pick sides just yet

Same I'm leading to tatis said on this because of all the receit

I've always been on Tati's side until the drama blew up this year. Then I kind of drifted to somewhere in the middle.🤷🏻‍♀️

@@dumpsterwind5909 hm maybe, but the receipts do go in her favor

ikr???

@@abigailthomas6386 you’re right we should NEVER let her forget even though JC forgave her and are still friends... hmmm. Ok makes sense because we have never done or said things that were regrettable and needed to be forgiven. But she’s in the public so it’s ok to not let her forget , she’s not a real person 🙄

I imagine even if those words were actually said, probably it was some version of "I know my audience would probably buy even a shit product if I were promoting it, but that's not what I want to do with Halo Beauty. It feels like you're trying to coast on that and screwing it up."

@@shania5806 you don’t know her, sit down 🙄

​@@Sapphireemberss she said "I thought the video might make James kill himself" and she posted it anyway but keep defending her lmao

She just feels as that person who would get shocked by someone saying "crap"

@@imnumber142 no, they’re making assumptions on what sort of decisions someone would make without even knowing them lol. I don’t agree with Tati’s decisions but I won’t act like I know her.

She’s been taking a break from social media I think bc of the Jeffree and Shane drama

@@gemmagem6360 isn't she always taking a break tho- lol

@@maxine7917 she use to upload 5 days a week Let her take a few months off

@@maxine7917 she only took 2, a short one before the whole SD/JS thing and then her current one. She doesn’t normally take breaks and whether you like her or not MANY youtubers and drama channels have given her props for being the most diligent uploader in the community at her peak. She was posting 5 videos a day and at the time no massive beauty creator even came close.

@@PrincessOceanna i- i just wanted to say joke because that's how it's been looking like- break break break for literary half of the beauty community. I don't like talk but I just wanted to say a joke that is based off facts that were partially true. I get why you could be mad about it but who is to say that it's not fully true? lol

Her husband and him were long time friends so I guess they just trusted him

Yeah I’m sure they know A LOT of people. What made them choose this guy over everyone else, for the launch of a business selling stuff with tatys name on it?

@@carolbetzy he had Pharmaceutical knowledge

Right? Questioning that literally debunks all their receipts, whyyy wouldn't they check? Even if it was my absolute best friend I'd background check??? I'm not saying they're lying, but this truly baffles me

@@SilverstreamPJ28 this comment is what grasping straws look like. It's like trump who is suing without evidence while the defendants have all the proof but the trumptards would believe him anyway. There's receipts sis. There's no more straws to grasp.

Wtf your gonna buy sex toys?

Yea!!!!

Wtf!!!!!