Ya'll are missing the biggest nerf for Jin. I can't believe he doesn't shout DAH! Everytime we get an electric.

Please stop complaining about every move that Jin has. I will not accept to play one more Tekken game full of narrow minded people complaining about "how Jin is OP" because they made their own opinion based on your hate speech. Just play the Game. As a Jin main i was not spamming d2 last weekend. Everyone is not thinking that "abusing stuff is the only way to have fun" . F4 is a keep out tool so ofc i will use it. ( Bryan's 3+4 is annoying but i will not make a video asking for a nerf. ) Also, you can't compare Tekken 7 Gameplay & FramData to Tekken 8, these two are different games with different mechanics. Please, if you want to do a " First Impressions video " of 12 min long, don't take more of the half of the time talking s**** about the character. I play Jin and YES i felt offended. Now i get some flash back of my Tekken 7 " career " where even after a *beautiful legit win*, the biased opponent says " YeAh BuT JiN is BrOkeN " instead of saying " GG ". In Tekken 7 season 4 Jin was a " tryhard " character with " no fun allowed " because every one of your community was crying about his tools and it all started like right now. YOU kinda made him almost unplayable for casuals who just want to have fun or play Tekken 1 time per week. Now in Tekken 8 Jin is " Fun and accessible" again and you will start to complain again. The thing that made me get mad is; you like to play cheap characters based on abusing stuff to Win like Marduk but you can't let Jin have a slow a$$ panic move to relax a bit. Or in exchange you need to cut his whole right leg to feel like he is balanced. This is annoying.

The salt and bias is showing too much TMM, you literally can't make more obvious than this video. I mean dude slandered Jin on every aspect that got buffed and when talking about other characters like Kazuya and Bryan, it's just a little slap on the wrist. I don't even main Jin, I play Lee, and the hate is real with this guy lol. Sure some of his shit is busted, but asking for his pokes to go back to T7, as a poke oriented character, are kidding? D2 is 100% going to get nerfed, so pointing this out in this video to hammer home your bias was unnecessary. His F4 being easier to pick-up on CH is fine, specially if they want to make characters more accessable, plus the fact you can't cancel Zen makes the move at lot more risky overall. Thatblastedsalami's breakdown of Jin, pointed out some crazy shit Jin has now, while still being balanced with his opinion.

tears in my eyes. that jin f4 combo nerf in tekken 7 was stupid. good on them for reverting back on that

Ohh Mainmann.... Even in Tekken 8 you still saying Jin is super buffed and Top tier while Kazuya is hard and nerfed... Kazuya wall string Beats Every Jin buff

Mainman complaining about Jin/D. Jin, must be another day that ends with y

Why can’t kazuya have a wave dash eye glow, it’s soooo sick

Somehow I feel like this the start of TMM v Jin Players, Tekken 8 edition.

Haven't even watched the video and i already know i'll hear the word broken 500000 times

Bro stays slandering Jin. Every character has busted shit now, i like how you had no criticism for Bryan when he’s absolutely broken. He wants jin to remain one of the worst performing characters online. You can’t balance around top level only…

You're being biased. Just seems like you want Kazuya to be ahead of Jin at every turn. Yet, Kazuya has a 5 hit broken string. Your disdain for Jin is showing. Of course his f4 is looking fatal. He already lost his magic 4 counter. Plus zen cancel is harder. So buffing f4, I see no inherent issue. Also, have you been watching people play Jin in tekken 8 lately? All of his lows have been used for multiple situations. Not just the new low. Also, judging his zen cancel and saying player expression is gone is a bit stupid. Seen Devilster zen cancel without doing the side step. Seems like you're holding up for too long.

I honestly believe that he wants Kazuya to be way stronger than Jin IMO..Kazuya also has a lot of absurdity but you'll never hear him say it because of the complete biasness towards Jin.

In march at the time of alpha test, he was saying jin got so much nerfed and that and was happy, now just look, how fast his opinions changed about jin, now saying ,got buffed so much, you guys are just falling to him

If kazuya had that d2 would be a different story, wouldn't hear a thing about it..

I will never use the parry anymore. Them dumbing him down I don't really care tbh. As long as Jin is strong i'll have fun. Idgaf about balancing anymore. Not after tekken 7. I just care about having fun.

I really hope that Zen cancelling makes it back into Tekken 8. So many opportunities for interesting pressure and combos, all gone in this beta

This is becoming really annoying, themainman always trying to create a negative image toward this character, so the community can repeat it and Jin players get all the complaining when they use him,. Nothing is broken about him in t8, lots of buffs, lots of nerfs. I don't know what is the problem that you have with this character but this ain't funny anymore.

In Kazuya's video when you talked about that BS string that does a million damage the only thing you said was "the pushback needs to get nerfed". Oh but that ridiculous damage that eats all of your health bar is somewhat OK because Kazuya can get launched after it, and also because "that's what legacy Kazuya does"... Now Jin gets some sick moves that work and are efficient and somehow they need to get nerfed? They don't even do all that damage compared to the rest of the roster...! I admit that I don't understand your reasoning here. Jin is the main character and should be somewhat accessible since the story mode will be all about him and his father. Being accessible doesn't mean it doesn't require technique or timing... So let's keep Jin's movelist enjoyable like you just showed here, and let's actually nerf Kazuya's broken damage output which is absolutely not justifiable. BTW before I get blasted by the community, my comment is by no means an attack towards TMM. I just expressed my thoughts on the subject since this what the comment section is here for.

Everybody has easy pickup moves but jin cant have it😂Wtf kind of logic is that..Jin should always have hard pick moves😂

but you wont complain about kazuya because he's your main. Just another Jin Hater. Sit Down

Jin's new low Is like a Heihachi's db+2 but with tracking, -14 on block, longer range and a launch on ch :D wtf

There's no breakdown here. You've missed a lot of stuff. You're picturing the character like he's a beast just like in T7, and he's not. You just pointed out two busted moves and exaggerated the rest. He gained a lot of reach on his pokes and 1+2 but also lost some okizeme, counter hit tools, no ZEN cancel(outside of the side step cancel that doesn't make it safe), and the ZEN options... They're okay (most of them jab interruptible tho). Thing is, you're hating on the character because of two moves. T8 Jin can't hold a candle toT7 Jin. This version is not better than the later, that's for sure.

Ofc Mainman calls for nerfs to other characters but thinks Kazuya's new completely broken string should have the same damage but with less pushback 👀

Damn they really looked at Jin and said "we need to make this character easy". I'd hate to see what they'd do to Lee's execution.

I kinda wish Omen Stance worked how it did in Tag 2, but it works similarly to Jinpachi's d3+4 stance in Tag 2, where he got a 1 button TGF and 1 button EWGF.

And kazuya being busted you have no problem D2 being busted is giving you sparks, kazuya's df3+4,1,2 move being totally busted you said just nerf a part of that, he will get nerfed to oblivion for sure

He so bias against ANNY character other than Kazuya

Least biased kazuya main take… jins d2 is literally a clone of kazuya’s d 1+2, no one bitched about that move (not sure if that move was slightly slower)… he had a counter hit launching db4 which was removed in Tekken 7. Take away the d2 ch launch, give him back his zen cancels, his zen 1+2, his launching hell sweep.

Classic FGC mentality: Community: "we need more people to play our game" Devs: *makes game more casual friendly* Community: "how dare they cater to the casuals and not to me, who has been playing this game since Tekken 1" I get being annoyed at simplification, but Jin is the face of the game, most new people are going to want to play him. its ok if he's easy to play. and if anything Tekken 7/6/5 still exists so if you want a more "player expressive" Jin you can play that. I still play third strike for this exact same reason.

biggest jin nerf: no more DAH! 🥲

Remember this is beta... All of this is subject to change. I don't think being this critical is that important like its the full game out.

I feel like d2 is deserved since they removed like like 6 or 7 of his counter hit launchers in which fishing for counter hits with good timing was apart of his gameplan

Yeah you cancel SS into guard in the wavedash, but it's slower and also a bit harder to do fast cause you have to do a half circle back and that's an awkward hand movement.

Tombstone can launch, df3+4,1,2 deletes your healtbar and literally kills you at the wall, f3 has the most insane range same with db1 yet its Jin thats busted and not Kaz? I agree that d2 should be launch punishable but everything else is high level bitching

i love how he says d2 when is the most broken move but kaz has that stupid string that does so much dmg and is hit confirmable

Jin rightfully deserves some buffs. Not sure if I like how 'easy' he has become but I welcome it. He's now the protag again so he should be very welcoming especially to newcomers since a lot of new Tekken players will try him out of course.

I don’t understand people 🤦‍♂️,yet at the very beginning of the lauch of the game,you all said that Jin was weak,that we had tzken this or that from him and suddenly he becomes god tier again?i never doubted my Jin ,at the first trailer ,i knew it was the best version of fatal lightning 😌.

Jin is tremendously more interesting in Tekken 8 then 7 but I get what you mean. I don't agree with it, but I understand your point. Also, I think these content providers are misrepresenting Jin's new D2. I keep hearing that it's not launch punishable. Yet it's -14? That's a straight up lie my guy. If it has too much push back, I would understand the issue but there are various i13 and i14 moves like Kazuya's twin piston that straight up destroys Jin's low game. Even Jin can launch it himself with WS2. Because of the animation speed you have more than enough time to tell that you blocked it and use the appropriate punish for the move. I thought that was one of your things MMSWE. Jin's "identity" requires that you the player use a very specific move. Otherwise, you just suck for not knowing every single counter and punish in the game like you should. Does that not apply to other characters as well?

No "Dah" at electrics = Not God Like It's like removing dorya from Kazuya

Jin said "fuck you lars, this is my shit, i am the main character" quite literally

F4 is not as busted people think.d2 can still be seen from mile You guys trying to get him nerfed more, already.

D2 having so many properties is giving you problem, but kazuya, you were biased for that bro What do you think jin mains are fools or we cant understand

Mainman always wants jin to be nerfed

I don’t really like how to modern game developers accessibility is synonymous with easy. You can maintain complexity while also easing in newcomers.

I doubt Namco really care enough to specifically make certain pickup combo easier (Jin CH f4), they might just improve the overall input polling/buffering for better netcode, and to fix the cross-platform input lag issue (since everyone complaint about input lag in PS4 and PS5), and hence making some harder combo easier like Jin CH f4 and Kaz PEWGF.

Over-tuned moves aside, I feel like this character had to become more accessible for the story mode - though hopefully they rebalance him by release.

I knew he was just gonna complain about anything Jin has that’s good and swear everything Kazuya has that’s good is warranted like he always does and just like he did the entirety of Tekken 7 and he didn’t disappoint. If mainman had it his way Jin wouldn’t have a single counter hit launcher and Kazuya’s flash punch would carry you from one end of the screen to the other.

That looked like Heihachi's left backhand chop, at 1:31. I'm almost sure of it. Eishomon, I think it's called (the full move was that, and a right low kick).

Here we go again, They crying arc of main main starts again until Harada nerfs Jin like he did in T7.

And for your kind information tmmswe, bustzuya's game can also played by only one string df3+4,1,2. Two hits and game over d2 is faar less less less broken than that hell

I haven't watched this. But I bet it's main man swe complaining about jin once again. Edit: I was right. Main man swe complaining about EVERY GOOD THING jin has

I think it's good if they have made Jin easier to pick up for the casual player. He is the main character in both Tekken 8 and in the anime, so lots of ppl are gonna want to play him.

But Kazyua also has an all in one string that outshines even his electric rn!

I wish TMM would stop complaining about Jin every time lol. I just want my main to prosper

I mained Jin throughout 7, but seems like they made no changes to him that actually like, so not sure if I will in 8. The only change I have actually wanted is hellsweep not launching. It seems like they turned him into simple and effective character that doesn’t have to rely on precise timing anymore. And I hate the Omen stance, unfortunately. + frames on block into a forced 50/50 is my least favorite part of Tekken.

He regained his Tekken 4 strength

people on the fence about kazuyas broken string while complaining about d2 just shows the stupidity that comes with character bias

CBM gonna have a blast with the new Jin. He can play him like Noctis

Jin, Kaz, Bryan, Jack, and King are labeled as God characters in Tekken 8 close network.

Jin d2 is react table you just need more time with the game to bake it in your muscle memory. other players and KZfaqrs said the same point. F4 reach has been nerfed in T8 IMO. A lot of players didn’t realize that yet. I attempted to punish Paul death fist multiple times and it didn’t even reach and I got wiff punished for it. Seeing MM Kaz video I can’t believe how he even try’s to make sense of Kaz disgusting string. that’s it’s ok but they need to nerf the pushback.. that’s it !! Did you see the damage of the string against a wall combo ?! It ridiculous.. MM is full of shit when it comes to Jin video Kaz in his video is perfect and NAMCO better not touch him

I just got few things to mention @TheMainManSwe. Why complain about Jin now? He is completely parallel with Kazuya gameplay wise. Both characters are nearly identical in gameplay. Kazuya wind god fist launches and now so does Jin's. Kazuya has a D2 that is a counter hit launcher so does Jin now. Kazuya has f,f 2 which is similar to Jin's Demon paw. Jin's hell sweep is like Kazuya now, it's a two hit knock down. So please explain to me what is with all this hate and complaints about Jin when Kazuya shares the same thing that his son's has?

blablabla, the same old anti Jin frotting at the mouth propaganda from Mainman.

Man jin is fine! I dont want to see them nerf jin to death because dudes are crying smh 🤦🏿

IMHO they need to nerf that d+2, but I don't really mind the F+4 too much considering Zen-cancel is now more difficult to make safe. I'd probably be more willing for a return to the old F+4 if their willing to give us back Zen-cancel. In Tekken 7, even pro players would opt to just commit to Zen after F+4, and zen cancel when they see its blocked, or wavu if they see it hit/CH. Committing to Zen is scary without a way to get out of it safely is scary, so having the option to just not go into Zen is okay for me I guess, though I prefer having Zen-canel again over the easy pickup

I feel a bit of unearned bias. Kazuya’s new string is more dumb than jin’s d2 (both need nerfs!). Kazuya seems at the moment more busted than jin tbh

Hell no jin deserves to be high tier

Anytime I hear "This character is easier now" im just like...yeah obviously. I dont really care for Jin, so eh. I will say the bias is 100% showing. Man made it seem like Kazuya only needed small nerfs but Jin was Leroy levels.

....Tell that to your main Kazuya demo man string on heat, easy hellsweep to heavens gate and easy electric on heat, df3+412, and hellsweep. If you want him to be a "2 move character" as you said, kazuya could be simplified as df3+412 and hellsweep. But when jin gets a reactable low that has broken properties (While i do agree the ch properties should be nerfed, i reacted to it after 5 matches with jins), you complain? I'm pretty sure if your main gets that, you wouldn't say a single thing at all or downplay it saying thats its reactable. So come on, man. If you want to say easier and more bs, at least be fair and not biased and say that to your main too.

I feel jin carried that devil jin cheese with him in t8

So basically everyone is a boss caractor like T7 vanilla Leroy Smith.

guys this is only beta. they will change nearly every frame data until release.

That's all subject to change, yet he's not even half as strong, braindead or broken as Kazuya is in T8.

They created a Mishima with good pokes, OP

Devilster will be the new Tekken god with Jin

Let the TMM Jin hate commence. Character is only "interesting" when he is trash tier

And D2 needs to be traded for ch launchers and normal launchers he lost. He needs that

Mans still in tekken 7

Jin's so sick now! kekw

Mainman sounds to biased to be reviewing characters he doesn’t like lmao so annoying

So jin is not okay but kaz is? biased much? I agree with that jin is less interesting, but you could definitely say the same and even way more about kazuya.

Your balancing comment have become a joke , TMM. The hate for Jin have become so blatant.

Forgot to say that he can go into zen and easy 50-50 after a 2 4 punish. This is gonna get spammed as hell!!! Sad what they did to him voice wise though

Jin lost the dramatic camera angle after forward back 3..2

because you killed devil jin mainman, this happened

I still prefer the Jin where he isn't an anime character. Doing simple artistic martial arts move

Mr Whines a lot is at it again. He really has a bone to pick with Jin. Probably got beaten to badly once by one.

devilster already found the optimal way to zen cancel (harder but way faster than how it's demonstrated in this video)

Jin is the best character in Tekken 8, and I am switching from Street Fighter 6 to Tekken 8. The game looks damn good🔥🔥

I think the reason Jin and Kazuya are strong is fitting to the game’s upcoming story mode. Why do devs nerf their main characters? Capcom have a bad habit of doing a Ryu dirty constantly.

It's no wonder that Jin is op mainman. He's the son of kazuya and Jun who are basically Japan's strongest martial artists in tekken

F4 is fine, without zen the move is basically unsafe if you try to commit to zen. When i heard that zen cancel was removed the first thing i though damn f4 is gonna be fking useless. D2 however needs to be changed, this move shouldnt be better than db4 in my opinion As a jin main there are things about his game in tekken 7 that is different. Cant say for sure if Tekken 8 jin is broken. I have the CNT and its going online on 4pm. Ill probably come back to this comment after i try out jin

The changes I think he needs is really just d2. Maybe make it have similar CH properties to Devil Jin's DB2 or make it slower.

I want technical and big brain aspects back. They're removing execution I don't know why!!!

Still think the other characters should be buffed rather than nerfing Jin imo.

Every character in this game is God Tier bro, except your own main..😅I have been hearing you crying and whining for the last 8 years. I would take this if your Jin was Godlike. Note- He is never gonna admit that Kazuya got buffed or is busted. You will rarely see him complain about Kaz. Also he is jealous of Jin , isnt it obvious he only mentions he is God Tier but dsnt highlight the nerfs to his Tekken 7 CH potential on a lot of moves that used to launch

God tier Jin: the hoodie goes up Slim Jimmy Slim Jim

Jin needs d2 and f4 for getting nerfed for other launchers.

I think they should keep him like this, he is always the most played character (for new and casual players) so if he is strong and easy to use it will make more people stay with the game. Picking up Jin in T7 and having such a massive execution ceiling probably put a lot of new players off - and we want the community, player base and the game to grow don’t we?

Same for both kaz and jin they should have given em moves from the mishimas instead of strings and broken stuff.

Ah yes, another day, another tekken, another main man video of him complaining about how unsatisfied he is about jin