The real genius in this is it's only 1.4mb.

@@ekremaslan8068 exactly

@@ekremaslan8068 Because he didn't use "Developmental Libraries", those things are the worst.

@Fashinqu A. Exactly my point. Framework/Libraries are trash. I wrote a windows app not that long ago that is a gui based batch file renamer with serialized and pattern matching abilities and across multiple storage locations and used nothing but base C++. It's 34k That's it and I even then thought it was too bloated.

@@ekremaslan8068 "An idiot admires complexity, while a genius admires simplicity." ~ Terry on stream

Evangelion vibes

@@mateoleoncamacho3222 no plz no that shit hole

Red C file system is goated too.

shorter, easier to type... what's not to love?

@@jsihavealotofplaylistsI imagine defragmenting it does some shit like part the files to the left and right, with remaining free space in the center like moses

A common problem with schizophrenics, refusing to take their medication.

@@bigd8122 >"refusing" bruh, I don't think how that works... more like 'deciding' to not take them because then the 'lizard people won't eat their unborn children'.

@@bigd8122 True, but the side effects are brutal, so it's sort of a lose lose.

And he sadly passed away

Terry was my best friend in high school and we used to “nerd out” together on Friday nights on either my Apple 2e or his commodore . Back then - I recognized him as a genius. Many of his HS teachers felt the same. He did tend to mock religious pretenders. He was angry with his mom for being sucked into televangelist bs. His dad was working on the Palo Verde nuclear power plant. I wrote a program on my Apple 2e that calculated the location of a source of a wave front - a naive loran solver. Terry ported it to the commodore, then wrote some assembly (registers, etc) so that the code could take input from the commodore paddle controllers. Then he wired in voice coils attached to floaters. We modeled his backyard pool on the computer and then put the floaters in the pool. If I chucked a frisbee or ball or a … Terry :D into the pool - the detector would show us where on the surface the object entered the pool. He did this his Junior year of HS. Most of our class mates were still trying to under BASIC. We lost touch with each other at about 1991. He was self medicating with POT and I was having my own issues…. Very sad to learn what happened to my friend. RIP

And people are here acting like he's "reinventing the wheel" as if that's not really impressive! Would love to see them try it.

​@@Solaceon Bruh, literally every technological advancement can be boiled down to that statement. You know candles? Why reinvent lighting with candles, when wood fires worked too?

@Rocky Tom hell the logic applies to wheels, imagine if we were still using wooden cart wheels

OpenGL does really suck.

You can do that in Quick Basic too though.

That's a big mood

welcome to being a programmer lol

You're getting stuff done, and that's good. Now you just need direction.

the more i know in programming...the more i know, that i know nothing !

@@XCrovaX 1000% facts

He sure was talented. If it wasn’t for his mental health problems and batty religious perspective he could have gone a lot further.

more like severe, severe autism. I can relate though. But for the grace of god go I. I can only dream of those power levels.

RIP because it's 64 bit.

RIP a racist

He taught me what to do to the glowing people

This I don't agree with, but I do agree with the sentiment. Terry likely meant that a genius admires something like the command line because, while it is just a simple line of text, it is much more powerful than today's bloated GUIs if only we would take the time to learn it. The reason I don't agree however is because of this huge societal push towards minimalism, which kind of feels like someone said "make minimalism the aesthetic of the ultra rich, then the ultra poor will be happy when they own nothing". I would perhaps amend the statement to this: An idiot admires the venere of simplicity that hides the complexity A genius can create complexity out of simplicity if they so choose. I think it mirrors the biblical theme of TempleOS. God created the endlessly complex universe out of nothing, but while it is beautiful and completely deserving of admiration, an idiot focuses on the creation itself as the source of glory rather than focusing on the glory of the creator and the act they performed to make it happen. Anyway, that's me done with my ramblings, tl;dr, I think it is easy to misconstrue Terry's words, especially in a world that want's to take away everything we used to have and rent it back to us with the marks that we take in our hand.

This I don't agree with, but I do agree with the sentiment. Terry likely meant that a genius admires something like the command line because, while it is just a simple line of text, it is much more powerful than today's bloated GUIs if only we would take the time to learn it. The reason I don't agree however is because of this huge societal push towards minimalism, which kind of feels like someone said "make minimalism the aesthetic of the ultra rich, then the ultra poor will be happy when they own nothing". I would perhaps amend the statement to this: An idiot admires the venere of simplicity that hides the complexity A genius can create complexity out of simplicity if they so choose. I think it mirrors the biblical theme of TempleOS. God created the endlessly complex universe out of nothing, but while it is beautiful and completely deserving of admiration, an idiot focuses on the creation itself as the source of glory rather than focusing on the glory of the creator and the act they performed to make it happen. Anyway, that's me done with my ramblings, tl;dr, I think it is easy to misconstrue Terry's words, especially in a world that want's to take away everything we used to have and rent it back to us with the marks that we take in our hand.

@@jameswalker199yo dupe comment?

Also add “The smartest know when to use both,”

100% agree.

afaik it was the cnc prototype he build that caught fire

Considering his skill (arguably being the best programmer of all time) I can't say I'm surprised his life went so wrong. It seems as if true geniuses are always the least fortunate. The dude is the only person that made an OS that has that level of functionality entirely by himself, not even Torvalds did that who didn't even make a GUI for Linux (instead another user made Linux work with X Windows). He definitely should make any list of best programmers from the feat of making his own functional OS single-handedly. I often wonder how things could have been had Terry's life not gone down such a bad direction, I have no doubt he would still be Christian even if his schizophrenia made him believe God was talking to him his lucid moments convince me his belief was independent of that fact. The question is though, what would he have made? Would Temple OS be far better or for that matter would it even be named Temple OS? Would Terry have done other projects? Given his intellect and seeming love of gaming I think a game engine might have been likely (perhaps using his own language).

Did somebody set his apartment on fire? That's what glowies did to Royal Rife's laboratory for developing alternate ways to cure cancer.

I didn't even know this about him. Horrific and tragic

@@Redh0und Yep, the cordless drills he used as motor drives burned up :/

Sounds like he already covered it here

@@divinecomedian2 he really hasnt

I need holy C in my life.

This seems like the optimal os for Monero mining

not possible - maybe 106…

Man you really had a mentor there.. next time,if you find someone humble & you think you could do,please make a normal convo least That is not big,but for such people,its all they need,someone do care to listen them Life is all about that Hope & wish all will be well 😃🌟✨🌏🏠🙌 18.03.2023 12:34-35 pm ist

​@@azhagurajaallinall126 amen

Did he call you jogger cattle, though?

@@hyde5213 no, just grifter of grinder

I wonder if before that interaction his stance was that what he was building was so good that "OS" was not a worthy title. You might have been the nail in the coffin for him that people will refuse to consider it anything else and so he opted to call it TempleOS instead.

He's not limiting himself.. It is "he can do it" on his own without others 😃 that's a big motivation one could have in life to be success,peace .. wish his soul reached heaven/Paradise & bless people like him need help 😃🌟✨🌙👵👴👶👫🐶🐱🙌 28.10.2022 07:58 pm ist

@@azhagurajaallinall126 take yo meds

@@l6e6i6n sure,lets discuss about "Herbal Toxicology" & treatments .. Wait,you mean another guy who can't accept himself,become a toxic manipulator to hurt,down others so you feel happy lowering them.. Visit a psychiatric or look "Defense mechanism" to evaluate your condition .. if you can't accept yourself & force others to think you are fine,then can't help you until you realize .. wish you all well fellow being of mother nature All will be well 😃🌟✨🙌 (Btw the thing i said known as motivation & appreciation,you may haven't felt yourself,who knows 😅😃) 18.03.2023 11:59 am ist (Rf y 07:52 pm)

Actually,i think he were in some loneliness & depression issues,which modern society faces much.. He believed in his God,just like human society rely on something for hope & stability That means,he did it.. Only if he found peace before passing away,means he would become a treasure & innovating,contributor like the God father of Modern computing Dennis Ritchie himself For people in need of appreciation,hear this,we all will be well & hope,loved to live our life,fully,dreams achieved,with our loved ones All will be well 😃🌟✨👵👴👶👫🌏🏠🙌 18.03.2023 12:04 pm ist

​@@azhagurajaallinall126 We've found Terry's successor

you can also inline assembly in plain C with __asm__ ()

@@marusdod3685 yepp, but that's what I'd call an annotation :P

"Oh but there's nothing impressive about it!" say the kind of people who know less about programming than they think they do. I mean, I don't know shit about anything and even I can see what's special about it.

Better yet, you can include animated graphics directly inside the source code

@@edrsa Like God intended

Maybe not much. I understand he programmed like a maniac to keep his mind occupied.

He'd have probably ended up an unknown senior dev at Google making a rediculous amount of money, however he wouldn't have had quite the freedom to pursue his dreams.

@@TheKlopka This. When working on a team I program at ~25% the speed of what I do alone. The meetings, merge conflicts, architectural disagreements and lack of creative freedom all play a huge role in the final result. It's like that saying goes "If you want to go fast, travel alone. If you want to go far, travel together".

I think his mental issues were the reason he could accomplish what he did. Genius and mental illness are closely related

@@Justin73791 Is it really not plausible to travel far alone?

the man lived the life God intented him to live. he died a legend, what else could you possibly want?

@@IHighscoredYourGirl He had severe untreated schizophrenia and threw himself in front of a train, how is that ideal?

@@IHighscoredYourGirl To not be convinced that black people are FBI agents out to get you?

@@SteambieGrimbley9110 cope harder

@@SteambieGrimbley9110 Glower

And that's the case for me when I watched this video

@@thecappedbassist definitely search for the name. Brilliant, brilliant guy, but looked to have schizophrenia and some definite verbal tics. And he’d get all worked up by people calling him while he was streaming TempleOS. Sad end for him, he was “hit by a train,” which I assume is a euphemism.

I found him by googling: the greatest programmer who has ever lived. Im not even kidding it comes up with Terry.

@@sebula8001 sounds legit. I love it when Terry Davis is brought up and the undergraduate Freshmen in CS emerge to say, “oh, it’s not that hard to…” This guy built an OS. By himself. In pretty short order. From scratch. With on-the-fly compilation. It wouldn’t be a “daily-driver” for most (e.g. no networking stack), but I’m left stunned at how much work “just” that is. If he isn’t the best-ever software engineer, I can confidently say he’s better than I am, and I’m pretty decent. 😉

​@@peoplethesedaysberetarded He sadly stepped in front of a train after being homeless for several months during which he was tormented by trolls. People who spoke to him in his last days said he was largely incoherent, until you got him talking about computers and programming, after which he could carry on a long rambling but still intelligent conversation.

Any sources to learn about os design?

Really? You really got to inject something random like "the things he did were bad"?

@@davidbriggs8109 TempleOS

@@davidbriggs8109 Minix It is intended as learning tool for OS students

Minix and the teachings of Andrew Tanenbaum

as God himself requested

My precious.

@ Hahahaha, excellent comment!

RIP

He makes fun of Jesus, LOL he deserved it

@@vikrantagarwal1320 5 years soon...

@@leoboris9781almost 6 years now.

Words from heaven 🤜

Amen

Wow. Your comment has horizontal slider below the text. Never seen that before

Academic journals arent that hard to read once you know the concepts they are talking about. There is a certain vocabulary which is normal . When we talk lets say about youtube , we dont define the term "subscribe " every time because it would cost so much. Yet it could be useful to somebody that isnt familiar with youtube. They are also not pushed to simplify things so you can understand them without any work because what is the advantage that your doctor/plumber/physician to understand an academic journal article about law ? Nothing. Those articles have two goals : 1. to push the knowledge of the experts of that field 2. to bring other arguments by pushing the debate even more. Someone who isnt an expert on the field wont contribute anything and if they do the work they can easily understand the articles.

I feel I should say I am a genius but most won't believe me because they think I should talk a certain way. I used to always use my vocabulary a lot but it was socially awkward. Dumbed me speech down I did. But I find his statement quite true.

Maybe 666?

@@ultimateoriginalgod dont do that to Terry he was a good boi

2:32 means 2 * 60 + 32 = 152 which is closer to 200 than to 100

@@alexeycherkashin6251 -8 because of outro, if you want to be precise. I just meant, he deserves double the time.

double it and give it to the next person.

I would say 1000x. It isn't only so much of what he did but from the fact that he did it ALONE and he was CONSTANTLY motivated to work. NOBODY else in the planet (at least in the programming space) will be able to do that again probably.... RIP Terry! We will never see one like you!

true :(

Yeah you can, there's nothing inherently special about him. He just knew how to code well, and anyone can learn how to code well

Nah, I’d consider him a 100x programmer if he did it all in assembly language. Him doing most of it in his own version of the C programming language is more like a 50x programmer thing. Still incredibly impressive nonetheless

@@spiritwicc3953 First of all, he did everything from scratch, secondly, no sane man will do such pointless things for decades and keep pushing, without realising that it has no use. His illnes is the reason for that.

not really, i think he just used 4chan lingo

tbh It's kinda sad that most Terry appreciation I see is "schizo man says funny things haha"

glowies are undercover federal agents, e.g. patriot front.

@@xadxtya Terry literally created that term lol "The term originates from schizophrenic computer programmer Terry Davis who claimed in 2017 that "CIA n*****s glow in the dark" in a video."

He also coined the term "afroluminescent"

Redox is also a relatively famous os written in rust

Only got a 41% chance of being finished before the author commits suicide on that one though. I'll stick with TempleOS.

I just checked out BlogOS, and it looks really interesting! Thanks!

> made with rust no, thanx

It is but idk if he would have worked well on a team. TempleOS is a marvel, but it's also pretty fucking horrid by todays, or any standards. His thinking is actually pretty stagnated software wise.

_The_ system might have failed him, but _his_ system worked as god intended.

I don’t think he could have been on a team with his mental issues ongoing, but with proper help he would be a great asset to any team. I know since I’m also a developer struggling with mental issues and i see that path as a path that anyone can fall into without proper help. For me this is a cautionary story.

Wtf is the system? Dude had talent and didn't put it to good use.

@@divinecomedian2 he had schizophrenia and went down badly. From being isolated from society to internet trolls, went down badly in every step. I dare you build something like that from scratch by yourself

As an asm coder the thing thats most impressive to me is the memory limitation. In a windows 95 world of 32k 'code caves' i hacked and injected my highly un optimised code. Wow. Just wow.

Dont believe in god but i do believe in god like coders.. ;)

Goosebumps.

@@sammymcfone8281this statement makes no logical sense ;))

Switch it to holy c++ aka carbon

You gotta show me your sources! I always wanted to try, but couldn't find any sources.

@@willinton06 i feel like rust would be better

@@Onrirtopia why can't we make it in python?? i gonna try it in html😆

@@Onrirtopia true but not if they've already started working on it in c++ and are far in to the project.

❤️ serenity

...windows

@@bigmistqke i discovered serenity a few weeks ago and it fascinates me. Andreas videos are just mesmerizing.

@@SumriseHD as a joke episode...sure. windows basically became an unbearable bloated spyware that is so engrained in today's society it can be considered as a literal parasite.

I love Serenity so much

learn about flexbox and grid

yeah and then throw away the flexbox because it messes up everything all the time. (centering a div is a joke btw)

Well, web programming is a mess so you can use that excuse.

I've been centering divs for years, and I still have to re-learn how to center the next one every time.

not really an accomplishment that it was "only" 120k lines of code considering the bulk of the OS barely actually did anything that anybody would consider sophisticated

@hye181 ok fair, but how many people have done all of those things solo, without any open source contributions? Guarantee you that is few to none. It may be a symptom of his mental illness and paranoia but it is for sure an accomplishment

Thank you for speaking in tongues.

@@DemPilafian FOUND THE CIA GLOWIE

Is it impressive, though? If you yank out the "created by one person" asterisk, would you praise it, let alone use it? I'll put it this way: it's impressive the way building a computer in Minecraft is impressive. It's a fun story about how much one person can accomplish. It's also a cautionary tale about (1) how easy it is to pour massive time and talent into a functional black hole and (2) how much more we can accomplish when we *don't* work alone.

@@ichijofestival2576 LMFAO you just tried comparing a person creating their own operating system from scratch to someone building a computer in Minecraft.. I think you need your head checked lol.

@@musamansa5465 🤣 Poor child. I realize analogies are difficult. Don't worry, you'll get the hang of them eventually. (I mean... Unless you *do* actually use this monument to wasted effort... In which case, maybe you won't.)

You just run them over that’s what you do

In that interpretation I think Terry succeeded. Something that you can take and tinker with, and if it breaks it broke because you did something wrong, not because it doesn't like you, or thinks it's better than you, it was you who can see your failings without judgement and can therefore see more clearly what you need to improve upon.

This. The OS is a sandbox, which can be modified nearly in real time (or as close as practical for the system). People make a lot of emphasis in the "a temple for God" part, and forget that even before that, Terry had said himself that the purpose was didactic. It was meant to be used for self-programming itself.

Modern programmers and companies can definitely learn from his compression skills. I will not install a game larger than 100GB.

@@energeticyellow1637 . I know what you mean. Photo-realism adds nothing meaningful to a bad game .

@@Mikewee777 pbr materials

@@energeticyellow1637 agreed,if a game has a GPU-killer graphics but also an patience-killer gameplay (boring asf and also not fun), then don't download that lol

@@Mikewee777 yeah, many good games use simplistic artstyles sometimes more is less

I agree. Even with his condition, the documentation is exhaustive.

@@dr.strangelove5622 I think he talks about documentary of the guy, not the documentation of the TempleOS

@@jackjack3358 The documentary titled "Down the rabbit hole..."? Well, that documentary was really remarkable.

@@dr.strangelove5622 this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6mXotuCqMyZeps.html Yeah, it was really something.

@@xorinzor YEss!! I have watched this documentary!! It has been really well made. Sometimes the content on KZfaq is really good.

Your wording is okay, but I did want to pass along it's better to say something like "... if Terry didn't have Schizophrenia." The reason is "insane" harkens back to a time when people like Terry with significant mental illness were viewed as less than human and were often locked away without any regard for their rights as a human. Using a more modern term like his diagnosis acknowledges that his condition is serious and presents him with many challenges while also making clear this is just one aspect of him, not his totality as a person. Nobody is going to get upset over you using the word, but it is depreciated.

That's like saying the Major League Eating champion who woofed down 141 eggs in 8 minutes is advancing the state of fine culinary arts.

@@DemPilafian huh? I just offered a suggestion on more modern language usage. I'm not suggesting a term that would hide the reality of his mental health. The term schizophrenia doesn't exactly elicit images of puppy dogs and rainbows, but it is a more accurate and descriptive term that doesn't have some of the baggage of the word insane. Insane is fine to use, but it's meaning is much more broad and is also used in contexts outside of mental health and is sometimes used as an insult. I wouldn't want people using an insult to describe me. And girl, I know, facts don't care about my feelings, but feelings are a real experience and it's kind to take them into account when describing someone.

@@KrisRyanStallard Interesting. My reply was to the *original comment* not your reply. I don't even see your first reply. Sometimes KZfaq filtering inadvertently hides replies that mention sensitive topics even if the reply is not at all offensive.

Or maybe what we wouldn't have achieved if he didn't. What made him genius and driven could've very well been that.

Yep 1.4mb floppy sized

his OS basically does nothing useful though in those 2 MB. Lots of OSes were smaller and more useful.

@@jhoughjr1 well, no OS by itself does really anything useful for productivity or stuff like it. That's what applications are for 😅 .

@@jhoughjr1 Its literally a OS made for fun, education and experimenting. That it. Of course its not useful, its a toy for programmers, not made so you can browse ph on it.

@@jhoughjr1 You got holy C implementation of C. You can program and run any program you want, no bloatware, or at least God didn't desire such. /s

The way God intended. He was a successful programmer prior to his mental break (motherboard did a good write up covering that) he worked at Ticketmaster creating an OS for cash registers and he made an early prototype CNC machine at home. He also made a physics simulator for windows in 2000 called simstructure

I need to know more

Do they support higher resolutions?

@@TheGoukaruma They'd better not. God told Terry that 640 x 480 was the only correct resolution.

I am fairly sure he was killed because religious people don't usually get hit by trains willingly

Someday, we might

Federalism was a mistake.

😂😂😂 So bad that I know exactly what you're talking about

god bessed jeff

And I am thankful for it.

Remove the "h" from "watch" in this url , press enter and you'll see the truth ⟁⟁⟁

@@DanielWillen Why does it do that?

@@DanielWillen It seems to work with every video as well

Frederick Knudsen did a few hour long "Down the Rabbit Hole" of it. It's pretty good, I recommend it if you want to learn more.

Down the rabbit hole- TempleOS has more details. It's on KZfaq.

Terry clearly put an insane amount of effort into TempleOS, but there's nothing genius in the OS. This reminds me of cases where someone had a head injury and suddenly starts playing music. A bunch of people with no background in music think they are witnessing the next Mozart.

@@DemPilafian I mean he developed his own language, compiler, bootloader, libraries for the OS, the OS itself, animated icons that are basically ASCII, and developed a few games. All while battling a mental illness, I believe that deserves some praise.

@@334Bena Yes, praise like giving an award at the National Buffalo Wing Eating Contest to someone who does an amazing feat like woofing down a record 181 wings in just 12 minutes. Very impressive. Terry deserves sympathy for battling a mental illness, but *extreme determination* does not make someone a "genius".

@@DemPilafian WE KNOW YOU GLOW IN THE DARK

I think one of my favourite things he said was the bird analogy about how we don't really panic when confronted with something we don't yet have the capacity to understand. "You're that bird, looking at the monitor saying 'hey, I can figure this out', and maybe you have some bird ideas..." he says, almost as if he's about to mock those ideas, then he suddenly reaches the logical conclusion of the analogy and ends with "...Maybe that's the best you can do". Maybe I'm just mentally 14 years old and this is deep, but it keeps me going to think that while I can figure things out, it's also ok if I don't, just as long as I try my best.

That's what I told my ex when I was beating her for calling me stupid

"Name one genius that ain't crazy" - Kanye West

I wish I had got a bit of genius with all my madness

"a touch"

I think it's true tbh. My IQ is at the cusp of genius and im not sane. A friend of mine is in the genius level and I know hes crazy.

amen brother

Even some of his more controversial quotes I can find something I like in them. I think humanity can and should coexist, but we also should be proud of where we came from. Hold our heads up high because we are the tribe that did this and that, and we are the tribe that helped them.

CIA nibblers, you can see them glow in the dark. What you do is you run them over

Well he said in the video, the red sea is the file system. Plus Holy C sounds better for the language since all the programs are written in it.

@@brands2131 should've called it the Tower of C then

These aren't metric seconds

@@andrerenault LOL fucking hell, that got me off guard! thanks

Time slows down so that we can have more time admiring Terry and his work.

They use mileseconds instead of our milliseconds so their 1 second is actually equal to our 1600 milliseconds