Ten 1980s Cars I Would Buy in a HEARTBEAT!

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This week on TheCarGuys.tv we go back to the time of big hair, big jewellery and big dreams - the 1980s! Incredible music, questionable fashion, VHS Vs Betamax, Rubix Cubes, Walkmans, Ghostbusters, ghettoblasters, and of course amazing cars.
It was a time of hot hatches, supercars, supersaloons, tasteless decals, inexplicable special editions, fuel injection, MPVs and outrageous bodykits.
I am going to take you through 10 Eighties cars that I would buy in a heartbeat from perhaps the greatest decade this planet has even seen, and I’m doing it at 4 Star Classics, a dealer that specialises in cars from the 70s, 80s and 90s.
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@footballgeorgiebest 9 ай бұрын

What a decade to grow up. Transformers, Amiga 500, Powell Peralta skateboards, Tamiya, Raleigh Burners, The A-Team The Lost Boys, Moonlighting and my neighbour’s Golf GTI that I lusted after, ( as well as Cybill Shepherd )

@inamhassan2694 9 ай бұрын

Cybil Shepherd!! I only ever watched her in the movie taxi driver as a 15 yr old. Bueatiful woman!

@GTC4cam 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I think David Addison’s e24 633csi aged better than his lovely partner of the time.

@pereldh5741 9 ай бұрын

I dont remember any of that. But I remember U2, Alfa 75, Fiat Uno Turbo & Bmw E28!

@footballgeorgiebest 9 ай бұрын

@@GTC4cam😂 agreed. David’s BMW was a beautiful beast

@zakelwe 9 ай бұрын

First rule of the attractive ladies of the time is never look at them now, and instead just remember them from the past when they were in their prime. Like Daisy Duke out of The Dukes of Hazard, or Pam Ewing out of Dallas. I bet Commander Wilma Deering out of Buck Rodgers in the 25th C (Erin Gray) still looks ding dong though ... Maybe, I dare not look.

@richardm2661 9 ай бұрын

205 1.9 one of the most exciting cars to drive. Miss my Miami blue example! What a decade for cars.

@pereldh5741 9 ай бұрын

Oh yeah. Peugeot 505 TurboInjection, Fiat Uno Turbo, Alfa 90, 75, Alfetta Motronic, GTV6, BMW 535i, Alpina B6 3.5, Audi Quattro, Porsche 964 C4, 944 Turbo, Saab 9000T16, Volvo 740Turbo, Delta HF 4wd, Beta VX, Thema 8.32, Ferrari 412, 288GTO, Opel Kadett GSi 16V, Fiat Croma Turbo ie, Fiat Ritmo 130TC, Mazda RX7 Turbo II, Mazda 929 2.0i.. Oh there’s so many

@steadfastandyx4947 9 ай бұрын

Absolute agreement with 9 and 10. Had two number 9. What I'd do for those days again. I've also always been obsessed with 288 GTO. Never seen one in the flesh. I'd faint. Brilliant video.

@danielkidd1668 9 ай бұрын

I was born in 1985 and it was the best era for cars and music 👍

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@richardbartlett6932 9 ай бұрын

definitely not music tbf..

@Ztandard32 9 ай бұрын

@@richardbartlett6932yeah. that was the seventies.....

@bbkerrC4S 9 ай бұрын

I was born in 1960 and concur

@gabethomas8123 9 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more on the 25th anniversary countach. Hideous looking bastard, despite the beautiful shapes that would come from the designer in later years.

@markplayford5836 9 ай бұрын

Born in 1960 this era of cars were really up my street. 2 mates had an XR3 and a 205GTI and I was very very very jealous. So much so I bought myself a Toyota Celica Liftback first one with twin round headlights followed by a square headlight in metallic blue with chrome wheels. I loved it and although not as fast as the aforementioned it just looked fabulous. However chrome wheels rust and I spent a lot of time with duraglit especially in winter. The 205 on your list is my pick as it was dead right from the get go. Fast enough great handling and fun but the design is truly awesome. I got my hands on a XS 1.4 once and even that was brilliant. Great work Damian 👏👏👏

@k.b.tidwell 5 күн бұрын

Lessee...it's a little after 2 pm here now in the States. Six hours ago I was at an old schoolmate's father's home about a mile and a half from me. The old fellow died last year, and my friend is liquidating much of the 40+ car collection his dad had amassed. I walked by one of those Saab 900 Turbo convertibles. He'd sell it. I was looking for a project car but that wasn't it. I'm of completely European heritage, but it's taken me over a half century to become comfortable with the Old World ideals of auto body shape profiles. I haven't gotten there quite yet with the Saabs, yet I love the Volvo 240's. Go figure.

@michaelteret4763 9 ай бұрын

A Lotus Esprit Turbo would suit me just fine…

@thedrivebygg 9 ай бұрын

Great video. I was born in 1977 and 10 years later when a cool dude down my road turned up in a 944 turbo, I was hooked on Porsche ever since. Owned both 205 GTI’s loved both of them, the 1.9 was more fun and noisier, was white with yellow trim inserts.I would own any 944 in a heartbeat and the mk1 MR2 is just perfect

@KETTINGAFK 9 ай бұрын

Lancia Thema 8.32 serie 1 ...That is a special one not to forget.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Yes, I forgot that one. I once had a dream I owned one

@KETTINGAFK 9 ай бұрын

Drive every "Ferrari" maybe a good one for another episode.

@ians2868 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic list Damian, my driving instructor had a 1.6 gti and she didn’t message and you putting your foot down occasionally, absolutely loved it and managed to get a 1.9 a few years later and still think it in my top 3 of most engaging cars I have ever driven🤗

@stantrisinhro 9 ай бұрын

Thanx man! It would be epic if you did " drive every legend" series!

@geoffclarke3796 9 ай бұрын

Some great 80's cars on that list. In the 90's, I was fortunate enough to own a Peugot 205 GTI 1.9 which was then replaced by Porsche 944 Turbo S. The 205 GT1 was huge fun like driving a go kart though the handling on the limit was a bit vicious and the build quality was crap. My 944 Turbo S was mildly modded so producing close to 300bhp (up from 250) handled beautifully and very quick on boost though the turbo lag was epic. My Mum owned a Saab 900 Turbo in the late 80's soon after I passed my driving test and I thought this was a really cool car and a huge upgrade on the Austin Metro she owned previously.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

You legend

@remie4494 9 ай бұрын

That was the greatest time of cars! Loved them! All kinds of designs! And the last of the best designed cars were in the mid 2010s. Can't stand the SUV anything..

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

@giovannigallo8429 9 ай бұрын

I am with you on the 288 GTO!!

@lukewaring2832 9 ай бұрын

40 years ago what are you on about man it was only yesterday.. oh damn it is 40 years.. 288 gto the rest will.cost you massive bucks to restore.. Thanks for sharing your dream.. Wife says i shouldn't get any ideas. Thanks for sharing .. Garage update anyone??

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@Zepherian 9 ай бұрын

Very close to my list tbh, although I really came into cars, metaphorically, steady up lads, in the 90s. I would skip the Saab, I like the 9000 a bit more. A ferrari 308 GTS would be a good call. A DeTomaso Pantera too. Some sort of citröen would get in there also. All that would be needed for the futurama 80's garage would be a general mechanic's head in a jar, you would need the period specific knowledge. If you get a Countach I'm pretty sure you level up the 80s by default. 5000s white on white, mmmmhhhh.

@terryfenner8142 9 ай бұрын

Great episode, Damian.. the Pug 205 for me.. I had the 1.6 and 1.9.. why oh why did I sell them 🤷🏻

@nonamenameless5495 9 ай бұрын

I ve neither been in one, nor have driven it and I m somehow convinced the 205 gti is likely to be the better car, but I d still pick the Lancia Delta HF... I d chose at least one of these two over any kind of sports car of the time. If very late 80s, rather 90s would be an option, my dad s first Porsche (964) would be my top pick...and yes, he still owns and drives it, sometimes with me as the passenger feeling like a little kid and for once happier being driven than driving myself. I can count the times I ve driven it with my two hands and that s not sad but part of the magic. What actually strikes me more than the cars of the 70s and 80s is that ppl like my dad who happened to race in the late 70s still have a mastery and ability to read a car quicker than my generation...and I was told to be really good at reading the car, finding faults in the setup etc but it pales in comparison tbh.

@davidjohn5852 9 ай бұрын

Great choice. I had a Fiesta XR2 Mk 2 in black. Didn’t last very long with an 18 year old me behind the wheel. My friend had a 205 GTI and Renault 5 GT Turbo. I love the Mk 1 Golf GTI’s. I had a mk 2 Golf GTI 8v. I currently drive a merc 320 CLK convertible. 1999. It has hammer wheels. Needs a lot of love now. I love the hammer body lines on it though.

@peterkirton4580 9 ай бұрын

Good to hear Jason’s name mentioned again ,when will he be back on the channel?

@giuseppecumbo5123 9 ай бұрын

Good trip down memory lane. The F40 will Always be the one but for the more affordable ones, I always remember us Italians lusting over the Integrale ! World Rally Champions.

@guinnessharvey4476 9 ай бұрын

I’ll take one of these Saabs , that yellow integrale, and the nice jeep Cherokee:) and I’ll be a happy boy:)

@flyinghedgehog3833 9 ай бұрын

Time for a garage reshuffle? Excellent list had 3 from new.

@MrMondeoST220 9 ай бұрын

Great video. Had a 205 1.9 and 2.8 Capri, great cars. My favourite from the eighties was the TVR 350i, best sounding car ever. Can still remember every time I saw/heard one.

@stuartsmith5308 9 ай бұрын

feeling blessed to have owned 2 cars on this list.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

💪🏻💪🏻

@mrlover4310 9 ай бұрын

It is nice that you don't think what other think of your taste.

@timday6087 9 ай бұрын

That 944 is in a beautiful colour.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

It is, isn't it?

@scofair1968 9 ай бұрын

The Mitsubishi Starion Turbo for me!!!

@philipguacci6452 9 ай бұрын

Some pretty spectacular cars on the list. I grew up in 1960s UK. Only the E Type jaguar stands out for me. Born same year it came out. As for the Australian cars. HSV from Holdens and 1971Ford GTHO 351 Cleveland V8 stand out. Thanks for the memories.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

You’re welcome, Philip

@wimdepril6920 9 ай бұрын

As a teenager growing up in the eighties, I had four posters on my bedroom wall: an F40, a 288 GTO, a Testarossa and a Countach. Four completely different shapes and yet all absolutely stunning masterclasses of automotive design. I wonder if teenage boys still put posters up today and if so, of which cars. Pretty sure they will never be as iconic as the cars I grew up lusting after. Excellent episode as always!

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

I had the same

@zakelwe 9 ай бұрын

No Porsche Turbo with whale tail? Outrageous! Or maybe your boys bedroom was small like mine. Being from oop north my bedroom was at the end of a pit shaft !

@k.b.tidwell 5 күн бұрын

@@zakelwe that was my dream car. I had to settle for four old Beetles over the years lol. Not quite the same!

@geoffnorton9279 9 ай бұрын

Excellent! Love your vids.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@michaellawrence3345 9 ай бұрын

Great job pal loving your vlogs

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@bbkerrC4S 9 ай бұрын

I luv this channel so much.

@markblake4425 9 ай бұрын

Just can't argue those choices pal👍

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Many thanks

@ianfantomx7 9 ай бұрын

the saab 900 turbo s aero would be the only car id ever buy twice. i had a gun metal grey 1989 model all leather elec sunroof, it was my daily, my van for getting to gigs with my gear in the back , getting my boy to sleep at 2 in the morning , covered 110000 miles and nothing went wrong ! should have kept it and parked it next to my 458 spider i have now !!!

@tonyosullivan2382 9 ай бұрын

Great video again 👌 Toyota corolla ae86 is another shout🤙

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Indeed it is!

@davekennedy6315 9 ай бұрын

Those Mk1 MR2s are lovely! My mate had one and it was a great little drive.

@tim205Mi 9 ай бұрын

Good one Damian, I enjoyed that, again my era haha 😂 keep great vids comin….

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@geoffhobster5814 9 ай бұрын

absolutey agree with the 205 GTI in a 1.9 flavour

@martinboulden4388 9 ай бұрын

Another great video Damian. ❤

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

I appreciate that

@richardcarter1000 9 ай бұрын

Great cars. Of those 80s I owned back in the day, my Mk1 Golf GTi and Mk2 Astra GTE were good, but my faves were a mk1 Suzuki Swift GTi and an 85 Alfa GTV6. Just wonderful

@stormrider4757 9 ай бұрын

Damien, agree about the 288 GTO, my all time favourite Ferrari. Probably not a coincidence we were born in the same year. Regarding Niki Lauda (also my all time favourite driver), apparently the story was that he wanted a GTO about a year after they were all built and sold and he managed to persuade Enzo to have one made specially made for him. If I could own any GTO ever made, it would be that one.... I think it is in the USA now.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Agree - that would be THE ONE

@DinoStudioArt 9 ай бұрын

Fab video! Took me back to when I owned my Peugeot 1.9 GTI, what an amazing car!

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@dancooper4020 9 ай бұрын

Sorry Damon, but the RUF based not on the 964. It based of the Predessor, so called the G-Model. You can see it best on the design of the rearlights. And as a guy form ´71 i totally agree with your favorites and Your Nr. 01 (AMG "The Hammer") ist my favorite forever :-). Like this series very well. Best wishes from Germany (not Pfaffenhausen)

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@lawrencecurtis812 9 ай бұрын

Great episode, I really enjoyed that. Please could you do some new Watch reviews. You always make good content on both channels. Thank you for the entertainment! Lawrence

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Working on it!

@kevmagill5163 9 ай бұрын

I'd have any one of these beauties...of course the 288 GTO is my pinnacle car, but a Porsche 944 Turbo S would really take me back to the 80s in style. Well done!

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@911aircooled5 9 ай бұрын

Ahhhh, so many fond memories. For me, Porsche 959, Sierra Cosworth, 911 930. But these were in your second list. So similiar thoughts. Then if they count Escort RS2000 ('79 count?), Porsche 911 964C2 ('90) and Porsche 944 S2 (no turbo 3.0l NA - awesome car).

@CR71243 9 ай бұрын

928 S4 for the win!

@mproads1704 9 ай бұрын

I was there too! Excellent choice, both in the ten car list and the honourable mentions. I would only add two: BMW M635CSi (E24) and BMW M5 (E28).

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Good call!

@mattylf1 9 ай бұрын

Big yes to the RS200. Big, big money now.

@bispal 9 ай бұрын

Great topic :-) I will take the RuF thankyou very much.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@amospizzey1 9 ай бұрын

Love this ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@theusefulchannel 9 ай бұрын

Yet NO MG Metro, not even a mention 😂

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@christophertate5494 9 ай бұрын

It was absolutely fantastic. I would have added the Porsche 959.

@garyhawkins9246 9 ай бұрын

Come on Damian, we regret the things we don’t do, treat yourself to that 288 GTO and let us vociferously live that experience through your channel, bet you’d get loads of views too!

@davetomley3145 9 ай бұрын

Absolute love for the Saab as my favourite uncle had one and would take me out in it for high speed runs. My cousin also proved that it was pretty fast in reverse too. Great list. 👍

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Thank you

@A3A4Tom 9 ай бұрын

I have owned 2 Saab 900s. They are brilliant cars even its a basic 900i. The 2nd 900S 16V was an even better car. I am finding a 89 900 Turbo SPG or 93 900 Turbo CE, as a collector item.

@R-Tap 9 ай бұрын

Defo on the Hammer, no so sure about the Mister 2. Great vid

@timonbotha476 9 ай бұрын

Great list

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

@robstrong5624 9 ай бұрын

Damian you legend I had 3 205 GTIs 1.6 and 2x 1.9 good times 😂🎉

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@davidtucker5432 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you are paying for rarety now so most are not good value propersitions unless you have excess $$. Also I would find it difficult spending £10000s on cars that were only cheap used cars not that long ago. Still good to dream though... I used to do a paper round in the early 90s on a street with a Capri, E30 M3 and an Integrale Evo!

@k.b.tidwell 5 күн бұрын

The only people who will consider these cars as values either have emotional ties to a particular model, or are too young to remember sane pricing. Or at least, much less insane pricing.

@details78 9 ай бұрын

Great episode Damian. Are you able to share how close we are to seeing a 288GTO on Drive Every Ferrari?

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

I don’t wanna jinx it

@details78 9 ай бұрын

@@TheCarGuysTV Sounds like a nibble to me :-)

@alwhite270 9 ай бұрын

@@TheCarGuysTV Doesn’t Noel Edmonds have one ?

@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab 9 ай бұрын

Hmmm...that 206 1.9 GTI was a great little thing...but the 288 GTO is a true UNICORN car! 😱😍🥰

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

I agree!!

@alwhite270 9 ай бұрын

I had a mk1 MR 2 in white with a t bar roof when I was 21 so a very long time ago ! Amazing car. I absolutely hammered it for 4 years and not a single thing went wrong with it. You couldn’t say that about a Vauxhall, ford or Renault from the same period.

@CR71243 9 ай бұрын

288 GTO for sure top of the list!

@richboy900 9 ай бұрын

The lancia delta integrate evo has to be up there

@jg5529 9 ай бұрын

Mr2 - Mid-Engine, Rear-wheel drive, two-seater

@Ztandard32 9 ай бұрын

That was some sort of nostalic sugar rush. Thank you.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

You bet!

@prophetate 9 ай бұрын

I realize, you and I Damien we have very similar taste in cars, especially 80’s cars 😊❤️👍

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

No way!

@prophetate 9 ай бұрын

@@TheCarGuysTV yes way ❤️ 288 gto, f40, 205 gti, saab 900 turbo etc etc

@adrianadrianp5305 9 ай бұрын

Just two the 288GTO and the yellow Bird please

@TheRealFLX81 9 ай бұрын

Good list, that. Would be interested to hear why the Integrale didn't even make it to the honorable mentions, as far as I understood? That to me is the ultimate homologation and boxy 80s hot hatch. Would the maintenance scare you off or how come? Also it would be great to hear Jasons takes on those lists, as well as his own versions.

@mikegan73 9 ай бұрын

No honorable mention for Alfa Romeos? GTV6, 164?

@alastairwade3656 9 ай бұрын

The Porsche 944 displayed is not a Turbo S, the S was the beginning of the 259bhp era had a limited run of about 1600 cars world wide, there are only about 26 on the road in the UK. They differ by not having a sunroof, alloys are superlight D pattern, adjustable shocks on the front, lightweight plastic/glass windscreen, etc. Most were supplied as the silver rose edition with woven seats pan and backs. A few were in other colours. The more readily available 250 turbos and the S are amazing drives especially for their age !

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

I know

@iandavidson99 9 ай бұрын

YES to the Saab 900 Turbo S !!

@Carfeu 9 ай бұрын

Cars today are too big. Love the old hot hatches like the 106 GTI

@NH00531 9 ай бұрын

A school friend of mine had a 205 Gti (1.6) in the early 90’s when we were 6th formers. I hated him as he was therefore soooo cool!

@danperkins5815 9 ай бұрын

You mentioned my all time hero Niki Lauda - so all good for me!

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@steffydog 9 ай бұрын

Cheers

@flavioc5389 9 ай бұрын

I will abuse you: YOU SOLD A F40! 😭 PS: Great channel, thanks al lot!

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

😂😂

@fioranof1871 9 ай бұрын

560SEC 930Turbo3.3 Lambo Jalpa these r I would choose

@batchmate7002 9 ай бұрын

A worthy inclusion would be the Jaguar XJ6 series 3 sovereign in midnight blue. A British masterpiece!

@daggidding4478 9 ай бұрын

Kajagoogoo 😃👍

@KnowPorcelain1 9 ай бұрын

Yep I would have any of the 10, or the others mentioned, you should do a video on the 10 worst cars of the 80's, who remembers the Hyundai Stella or Pony, the FSO polenez,, the Renault Fuego, or the Skoda Estelle?

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

I remember all of those

@miikasavolainen2418 9 ай бұрын

Ferrari Testarossa Lotus Esprit Turbo Ferrari 328 Fiat Uno Turbo Peugeot 205 gti 1.9 BMW M3 Bertone X1/9 Mercedes Benz SEC 560 Mercedes Benz CE 300 Mercedes Benz SL 500 (R129)

@lamaludwig1470 9 ай бұрын

For me the 944

@geraint8989 9 ай бұрын

The 80s was the best ever decade until the 90s.

@garyg5947 9 ай бұрын

205 is the biz!!!

@beijingbond 9 ай бұрын

I did say (probably about 50 times haha) that you should get a 205 GTi. Now is your chance! Please buy that white one and if you are out in your Ferrari's I will happily drive it around for you. I'll even pay for my own petrol. Thank you in advance, sir.

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@MrSmith804 9 ай бұрын

You regret selling the F40 or you intend on getting another one before they become unobtainable?

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

They are unobtainable

@GaijinTonic 9 ай бұрын

What a pleasure to see you do an 80s video. Amazing content as always. I really hope to see you in Japan one day. I would love to take you around and see a few collections here

@TheCarGuysTV 9 ай бұрын

Maybe one day!

@thomastims9583 9 ай бұрын

Buick Grand National GNX 🤯

@k.b.tidwell 5 күн бұрын

I'll give you that one. I ran into a guy here in the southeastern US at my auto parts store who was driving one maybe three months ago. I had to take a look under the hood for him, and to be honest he just didn't look like the kind of guy who would have ever owned one, but he told me he had bought it new off the showroom floor. Thirty years on, still driving his dream car. I don't envy him the upkeep but I do envy how that continuity and those memories must feel.

@bigcus8176 9 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure the Ruf was based on the Carrera 3.2 not the turbo.

@yuidfbse 9 ай бұрын

Is it just me or things used to be way more original and exciting than they are now? We are replacing what used to be pure creative emotion with absolute modern technical excellence.. in that process the imperfect humanization of the tools we love, gets lost.

@k.b.tidwell 5 күн бұрын

It's not just you. Everyone wants to drive the same refrigerator white egg with the same coddling and fragile tech. The older I get, the older I want my autos to be. I'm not a luddite by any means, but sometimes I wish I were.