Referral Code: ts.la/larry2437 Replacing rear passenger upper, lower control arms, and spindle.
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@jackoneill85857 жыл бұрын
As a certified mechanic i can tell you from the spray paint on the shock that the car was in a rear accident you needed to take it to a frame specialist to make sure its square.... and replace the other side lower upper and hub assembly... those aluminum arms are so thick they dont bend very easy ...so it had to of had a accident from that right rear quarter panel
@darrinkinney22687 жыл бұрын
this is perhaps the best Tesla Model S video I have seen. For once someone actually gets dirty and doesn't talk tech. For crap sake,,, its a car! You treat it like a car! thank you.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DennisMathias7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Very refreshing and I learned a lot. I'm going to go check my model s!
@JesusHerrera-vx2pn5 жыл бұрын
@@DennisMathias what did you learn?
@SuncityDirtMachine2 жыл бұрын
Agreed @MMG where did u get your parts and any tips for replacing the fronts? My LH fore link snapped yesterday looking to do it myself.TIA
@jeff31xx7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a mechanic, so that was very impressive to me. It's one thing taking it all apart, quite another putting it back together correctly. I can't imagine what Tesla would have charged for that. Good job!
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+x x Thank you very much! Yes would probably be very expensive.
@schade126 жыл бұрын
How much costed you the repair man
@beebeequail6 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it still be covered by the warranty?
@AdrianMcDaid11 ай бұрын
@@beebeequailit's 2014 car
@richmccallable7 жыл бұрын
I was really anticipating you comparing the old and new control arms side by side to see what was actually bent! Good video though
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Sorry i was trying to figure out myself what was bent, but very hard to see the bend.
@richmccallable7 жыл бұрын
I see. Nice job again!
@YouStupid693 жыл бұрын
@@ManMeetsGarage the bent i found on my rear lower control arm is front bent (up)
@hbchristmas53526 жыл бұрын
I used to work on front end for a living. I'm impressed with your work on the floor with the simple hand tool and floor jack, stand... Keep up the good work!
@raycarter71967 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I see of your channel, I am very impressed, very well done
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Michelle Hernandez Thank you very much
@CountryZorro6 жыл бұрын
A really good video thoroughly enjoyable. I would never ever attempt anything like this myself, but it gives me an appreciation for what is involved.
@kemchobhenchod5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me figure this out, well done.
@cree8k6 жыл бұрын
Son, after watching you and how good you are, This old man would allow you to work on any car I have, great video!
@mitchellbarnow17097 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm really impressed with your confidence about taking things apart and putting it all back together, all with just a floor jack and jack stands.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mitchellbarnow17095 жыл бұрын
I just watched this episode again, and I'm still impressed!
@cadman100007 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you have any details on what happened on that corner? I see some over spray on the strut so it look like that corner was painted at some point in time.
@ghanamafia71993 жыл бұрын
I came for insight on Tesla suspension issues but this guy caught my eye.
@LMPGames7 жыл бұрын
Had a similar issue with mine in November. Car would start swaying on slight right curves. Turned out the wheel hub had fatigued unnaturally or was damaged at the factory (it was 3 months new at the time) and there was enough room for the right rear wheel to start moving around in weird ways under load. Its cool though that you have the knowledge and skills to fix something like this yourself; saved yourself a hell of a lot of money.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Wow 3 months new. Thank you very much.
@PrevedMedved825 жыл бұрын
"High strength rope" made me lol. Nice work!
@raycheck6 жыл бұрын
Great JOB...... I was amazed to watch you work. Did you have any parts left over when you put it back together? Thank You...
@NZCUTR Жыл бұрын
Good video -- but how the heck did you get the inboard front nut off the lower control arm? I see the slot up from under where the aero panel was, but the access isn't straight? Did you use a flex head wrench??
@rwess7 жыл бұрын
Tough job. Interesting. Well done!
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@Desert1967 жыл бұрын
Great work at putting it all back together!
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jimhopper55087 жыл бұрын
Very impressive... you must really, really love cars! Very hard work... thanks for the education..... I'm going to share this with my mechanic buddy.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Jim Hopper Thank you very much! Yep love cars. I have a few.
@slyguyaction7 жыл бұрын
Came across this video. Really good work. Job well done.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@imho72507 жыл бұрын
Nice job, but what was the actual problem? Did you mark the alignment eccentrics and put them back in the same position or set them midway during reassembly? It will be interesting to see what it looks like after the alignment. Hopefully you fixed it.
@dannyrusso82796 жыл бұрын
Great undertaking, and without a shop manual! I would have had a few extra bolts when I finished that job. Nice to see someone working on the Tesla. The first I've seen on YT. I have a 2014 ordered, due next month, and I'll be sure to check the tire clearance when I get it. I'm thinking it may have been caused by the 21"'s hitting a good pothole. Another reason why I wanted 19"s in my Model S.
@hwy128097 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video, great detail, good work, good job!
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@Boutthemvols7 жыл бұрын
Thanks - great video. Did you ever show the car to Tesla before you fixed it? If so, what did they say? Do you know what caused the problem?
@jksyed2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, Thanks for the post. Can you post the link where you bought the rear control arm and other parts.
@grahamarnold25917 жыл бұрын
OMG--That looked a lot of Work--well done---yesterday dropped into a pot hole here in UK in my Model S --- hoping all ok---getting it checked this week --- GREAT VIDEO--- i'VE SUBSCRIBED---
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@PatrickCFletcher3 жыл бұрын
I am having trouble sourcing struts for a non-air suspension Model S. Do you have a lead on where to find replacement struts like the one featured in your video? Thanks!
@gmailpcmn6 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking getting Tesla from auction. What's your experience telling you about it? My concern is if it's hard to get parts and did you have problems with any electronics (sensors, modules)? Since it's very different from typical cars
@SuperExcedrin6 жыл бұрын
9:54, are you going to fix the rear door alignment? Lower window trim is misaligned with fender trim. Did you check if anything you replaced was bent?
@144Donn7 жыл бұрын
I do not know about you, but if I did that job, there would far more swear words! You really kept your cool! Great job!
@LordBLB7 жыл бұрын
Good video, and great job. If I may add a suggestion for you. Perhaps add in some close in shots of each important part (not all just the important ones) and give a quick bit of info on how they work. Show folks what these little things look like so if they're gonna try it, they kind of know what they're looking for. Nicely done!
@dr.projectx51426 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the parts ??? I would like to know please. And thank you.
@sorka950325 жыл бұрын
If you were replacing only the control arm could you have left everything else attached including the air spring unit?
@delschier14195 жыл бұрын
Geez did you fix it? What was bent. Where did you get the parts? Hate to think how much they cost!! Any idea how it happened. I would have loved to have seen the new arms next to the old ones.
@kaibintech3 жыл бұрын
Great video!. subscribed.
@TAD-94 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Give us more Tesla videos!
@tommyestridge93016 жыл бұрын
Did you have a manual or something else to give you the torque settings?
@pollywollydo7 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the young guys having a go was anything bent or were the bushes shot,if so. What was the mileage on the clock. P.s. Any torque values used would be useful. Keep up the good work
@TonAa597 жыл бұрын
How old is it (from which month 2014) and how many miles on it? Did anything noticeable happen to the rear suspension before?
@bobboberson20247 жыл бұрын
Tesla just doesn't have the refinements like the big boys yet. I like this guy.
@mysurlytrucker75107 жыл бұрын
well done did you get it as accident damaged, if not ad be on my way to where I got it .
@motorv8N6 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Also nice to see a KZfaq video where jack stands, eye protection and torque wrenches are the norm. Way too many weekend warriors out there working unsafely.
@Mrbfgray7 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the work done with minimal equipment similar to the way most of us would probably have to.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@laoboy316 Жыл бұрын
Where do you order your Tesla model S parts from? What website?
@ShoniGitarist3 жыл бұрын
Thnks man, think i have same issues whit my P100D. one of these days I will try to replace this parts. 🤞👍
@cozzm0AU7 жыл бұрын
Did you identify which part(s) were actually bent ?
@katieturner77137 жыл бұрын
So was it a bush in the control arm or was it actually bent?
@sniperoftat4 жыл бұрын
do you need to use computer to release the brake caliper and parking brake?
@FalconXE3027 жыл бұрын
Well done dude... nice Job.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@YouStupid693 жыл бұрын
i have same issue caster is off one side (did the finger test lol). great video, i follow your guide and change the hub that didn't fix it. so i change lower control arm and fix it finally. i was sceptical that lower control look so beeffy, how can it be bent right? i was wrong. when i took the old one out and lay it next to new one.. i can confirm the bent is lower front of the arm (arm left/right same part flipable) so anyone have rear suspension caster is off. i recommend change the lower control arm 1st..
@paulntx3 жыл бұрын
Is your car a new car or did you buy it used?
@alarjak7 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to know how much force was needed to make that distortion.
@keeponblooming49007 жыл бұрын
Larry you're a natural!
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Gary_Walker907 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I enjoyed it. I'm trying to get better at working with cars.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Gary Walker Thank You very much. Next time you have an issue with your do a little research and you'll find an abundant of information online. Don't be afraid to ask for help from friends or KZfaq. If any car questions you can message me anytime. 👍🏼
@Gary_Walker907 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I've worked on previous cars but nowhere near the extent you just did.
@cosmintuchi3 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@mm7nyy5 жыл бұрын
awesome!! I wish I was mechanical inclined like you!!
@rogergodin64433 жыл бұрын
You said the alignment was ok ? With one half an inch setback?(that is the wheelbase from side to side)not possible on a newer 4 wheel alignment machine .
@thomasjg21207 жыл бұрын
right on brother that's how I do it too, I work on all of my stuff myself
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Gordon Thank you very much
@transamrulesrice7 жыл бұрын
Do you think this could have been caused by hard launches?
@milolll7 жыл бұрын
good job! next time do a comparison between the good parts and the damaged parts, curious to see what deformed.
@hispeed85007 жыл бұрын
Thanks for using a jack stand! I see too many people relying on the lift to keep the vehicle up...
@MrMorrleday3 жыл бұрын
Where did you order control arms?
@Just-me2337 жыл бұрын
watching this seeing the comments of the part being bent hmm it may not been the parts being bent but it could been the bushings that are on the a arms just a idea
@phillipjoy81915 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of work.Nice video.😜
@izsakitt37116 жыл бұрын
So what component(s) were bent or damaged??? Was it a bushing? - I can't imagine deflecting these massive elements. Must have been an accident. I don't like to work on suspensions. I have possibly the same Craftsman air compressor like yours. I use the air tools as much as I can, certainly during dis-assembly. Air ratchet, 3/8 inch butterfly impact wrench and even the 1/2 inch impact. Torquing during assembly is a pain but advisable.
@TairnKA7 жыл бұрын
Good work, it was probably expensive (parts) even doing it yourself? Hitting a curb sounds probable (previous owner?) but I'm curious if you found another Tesla like your (model, year, etc...) would it have the same issue (doubtful)? ;-)
@C0wD0lph1n7 жыл бұрын
..incredible mechanic...
@outdoorsman03317 жыл бұрын
Great Job Young Man.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@jtcintl43734 жыл бұрын
How long did this job take you?
@dustinmiller28555 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to see behind the assembly while you were doing the disassembly
@zeus-io3hn6 жыл бұрын
great video and a gd job.
@RichRebuilds7 жыл бұрын
Nice job bud. If you like taking these things apart checkout my page
@nomayor17 жыл бұрын
Yes, nice *Completely unjustified* work! If this had happened on a BMW or a Merc, everybody would be laughing at them! Whereas with the teslslsasl, people are continuously trying to find excuses! And by the way if something goes wrong with that bit of the car, the first thing telslsa will say is that warranty has been voided.
@tomh23497 жыл бұрын
Yeah like BMW and Merc haven't had their share of issues. Cracked heads ring a bell? How about the Merc 190? BTW this was most likely the result of an accident, even maybe hitting a curb rather hard. He bought the car at an auction, so there's that.
@TheEryk037 жыл бұрын
Tom H not at this milage
@cadman100007 жыл бұрын
He bought it at auction so it's possible that it has been in some kind of accident before he got it. You can also see over spray on the strut where that side was painted.
@bradking77827 жыл бұрын
Mitchell Radford h
@bobbyt2137 жыл бұрын
Good job! That was a lot of work to do by yourself!
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@brandoYT7 жыл бұрын
Larry puts two fingers in the passenger side wheel well Driver side he puts three fingers into wheel well. re-watch you can see passenger side his fingers are lower (note panel horizontal line and his fingers are higher off the ground, right?) WHY didn't he actually measure the gap? You can try on your own car. insert 2 fingers and then do again with 3 fingers (which of course means you are further above the ground. This may be why no one could measure anything wrong a the alignment tests. It was great to see the replacement, he did a really nice job.
@gatyi286 жыл бұрын
Where did u get the parts ?
@InsanityOwl2527 жыл бұрын
My control arm had a crack in it and the replacement did the same thing, but now it's fine.
@stylesoftware7 жыл бұрын
Why no final comparison of parts? Was the metal part bent? Or the inner bushing crushed?
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Chris Trigg I should have done one. When I was comparing off camera, very hard to see. Bushings we're fine. For sure it was either the spindle or the lower control arm.
@dano45727 жыл бұрын
great job! but you took the caliper off its line, didn't you have to bleed the brakes?
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
I didn't mess with the pistons. if i would have then i would bleed them.
@ranxerox103 жыл бұрын
Does it have a rear sway bar?
@DanFrederiksen7 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. But did you identify any bent parts?? what was the problem. The upper part of the suspension geometry seems fairly weak. It seems they figured the lower arm is plenty strong. Since it was forward it would either be backup damage or acceleration damage...
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Side by side couldn't really see and difference where it could be bent. I bought the car on auction so i don't know what could have happened.
@gildardo7 жыл бұрын
Could be worn out bushings, since it is a heavy car.
@G8GTJav7 жыл бұрын
Man Meets Garage -You should have mentioned that you bought the car at auction in the video or description. Video kind of leads people to think Tesla has bad quality or something. Most likely, the prior owner smacked a curb or had minor accident that bent the control arm.
@Mark-uj4qj7 жыл бұрын
Very impressive! Did you do this without a Tesla maintenance manual?
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Yep no manual. It's similar to other cars.
@dogphlap67497 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@Kntryhart7 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be covered under warranty?
@vadimpanibratets962 Жыл бұрын
Hey great car looking ride man. When you did the chrome delete, did you wrap or plastidip the trims and moldings?
@ManMeetsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you did plasti dip first then went to wrap.
@vadimpanibratets962 Жыл бұрын
@@ManMeetsGarage How much did the wrap on the moldings cost? Did you have someone apply it? Or did you do it yourself?
@ManMeetsGarage Жыл бұрын
@@vadimpanibratets962 bought a roll and did it myself
@JesseAllhands7 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it but where did you get the replacement control arm?
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Jesse Allhands Purchased them from eBay. Southern California wrecking yard.
@lawrencetaylor41017 жыл бұрын
I also own a 2013/2014 Tesla that I bought from a private garage. The owner got sick and died (not because he bought a Tesla) and it sat uncharged for a long time. And he never did a service. This caused a problem with the charging system, but I contacted Tesla and they fixed it under the warranty. Since I don't have your mechanical ability, I am relying on the and they are very nice in Bern. You said that there was no tire wear at all before? Did you notice a change in alignment after? I haven't finished watching the video. I want to buy a Nissan NV-200 EV for my company but the battery isn't enough. Can you help me with getting about 300 km range with a 720 kg payload? I talked with Tesla and they said they will give me some ideas, but they can't do the work.There are lots of people in my area of Switzerland that want to switch to EV but they need range.
@yoseppijoe7 жыл бұрын
excellent video
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@robviolin17 жыл бұрын
Really good video. 👍
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@geoffdearth85756 жыл бұрын
What is that thing on top of your head?
@slartybartfarst973711 ай бұрын
Ive a 2014 P85 now 135,000 uk miles I think the problem is a lot of hard launches deform the rubber bushes as the upper control arm is the torque reaction point and only being RWD and 2.2 ton thats a lot of torque. AWD cars share the torque loads with the front wheels. My car rear wheel steers a bit with the accelerator.
@Spooms19614 жыл бұрын
Oh. I was hoping you were going to take us through a more detailed process of extracting all the pieces and replacing them. And comparing the old and the new spindles. Oh well.
@rivernet627 жыл бұрын
The brake caliper... hydraulic or electric?
@mindseye49147 жыл бұрын
Man this seems like a monster undertaking. Great job though! Curious to know why you didn't take it to Tesla for getting fixed? Was it because it was out of warranty or something or was it just because you like to fix cars? Thanks
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Minds Eye Car was purchased at an auction so no warranty. Yes I do like to work on cars. Thanks
@michaelflash64577 жыл бұрын
just saying, how did you obtain the torque spec information for all the bolts you removed?
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
+Michael Flash US Recommended Bolt Torque Www.boltdepot.com
@charliedevine68697 жыл бұрын
You made good time on that job. Thank goodness for Ebay and salvage yards. i don't want to know how much those parts would cost new.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Thanks parts were around $500
@thetrainerdave14 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see this job in a step by step format.
@theduckthatquacks64457 жыл бұрын
okay... where did you get your parts on a take out basis from Tesla? what did those parts cost? .. Your car has obviously been curb slammed .. this happens when the car is pushed too hard into a corner and the back end washes out... seen several videos where this has happened... did you check that strut for cracks in the mounts? You obtained this vehicle 2nd hand from a TESLA retailer? where did you get the torque specs for all those bolts? are they available online? thanx..
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
i purchased the parts on ebay. Vehicle was purchased at an auction. Torque specs are followed from boltdepot.com.
@theduckthatquacks64457 жыл бұрын
bought real TESLA factory parts off ebay? .. they don't look salvaged.. are they knock offs? or are the employees in business hocking parts?? hmmm.. Auction purchase, no warranty, reason #1 buyer beware.. I wonder what other abuse that car took... Tesla wouldn't resell it off their lot... no wonder... thanx for the link... likely will be the 1st of many repairs on that Tes.. I bought the warranty coverage . happy motoring. .
@jooky873 жыл бұрын
How many hours was this job?
@dm21187 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that this was a bushing issue that was bored of center and when installed caused a mechanical off set? It very unlikely that you would be able to deform or bend cast aluminum without it showing cracks.
@ManMeetsGarage7 жыл бұрын
No i believe the lower control arm was bent
@alanl3511 Жыл бұрын
Surprised that your p85 did not come with the air suspension. I thought all the model S performance came with it. It might have been a $2,500 option like a lot of Tesla’s stuff…
@impuls607 жыл бұрын
How is pricing on Tesla parts compared to other american premium cars? Those parts looks extremely expenive with all that machining done to them. Also it looks that Tesla used steel bolts againts the aluminium, if they have I'm a bit concerned with corrosion because of the salting here in Norway.. Thanks for giving us such a detailed shot of the suspension!
@loungelizard8367 жыл бұрын
Stainless steel is often used with aluminum. I'm not sure if that's what Tesla did, or which SS, but I would presume that would be the case, since I've never heard of corrosion being a problem with Model S.