Tesla Model Y vs Jaguar I-Pace: Which Electric SUV is Better? + Side by Side Feature Comparison

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**Correction: The Model Y has +1.3 inches more headroom in the rear (not 1.3 inches less as I accidentally put in the chart and mentioned in the video).**
Tesla Model Y vs Jaguar I-Pace: Which Electric SUV is Better? + Side by Side Feature Comparison
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@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: The Model Y has +1.3 inches more headroom in the rear (not less as I accidentally put in the chart and mentioned in the video).
@Stefan_Bln
@Stefan_Bln 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - thank you for that. Maybe you should consider to show your measurements in parallel with metric units. Best regards from Berlin
@elmaan
@elmaan 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Tesla Autopilot is not free but $5000 option
@adrianwood8820
@adrianwood8820 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I was wondering how the low roof of the ipace beat the Tesla Greatvideo by the way I’d love to see the same comparison on the Audi ✊
@jeffnreno5080
@jeffnreno5080 4 жыл бұрын
@@elmaan AP is included in the base price now but it is essentially lane keep. You may be thinking of FSD and that is a $7k option.
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
@@elmaan The basic driver's assist features that the I-Pace offers for $3K are free in any Tesla now. For $7K, you can get FSD.
@ScottJackson123
@ScottJackson123 4 жыл бұрын
You’d struggle to find a panel gap and/or a squeak or rattle when you drive the iPace... plus it a Jag! It’s a classy car with a build quality you’d expect from a luxury OEM... The model Y is an Apple watch, the Jag is a Rolex.
@DarkWing494
@DarkWing494 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and you are a awesome Jag fan unlike some others here (dont forget about superior air suspension)
@Delitor
@Delitor 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkWing494 luckily the ipace doesnt cost 80k or something haha
@yahikotendo5631
@yahikotendo5631 4 жыл бұрын
While the winner is clear, I'm very glad to see more electric cars from different manufacturers. The future looks bright😤😤
@MyUniversalUniversity
@MyUniversalUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@user-jt1jv8vl9r
@user-jt1jv8vl9r 4 жыл бұрын
No argument from me. Competition drives innovation and should lead to lower priced options. In the Uk I'm waiting/hoping for the German Gigafactory to reduce European 3 and Y pricing.
@fjalics
@fjalics 4 жыл бұрын
Look at what BNEF says about.bnef.com/blog/battery-pack-prices-fall-as-market-ramps-up-with-market-average-at-156-kwh-in-2019/
@iancrossley6637
@iancrossley6637 4 жыл бұрын
I don't recall you mentioning driving dynamics or interior design. This is important to some drivers. Something the Jag is famous for.
@yosifhamdan550
@yosifhamdan550 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@toddwright662
@toddwright662 4 жыл бұрын
Design by its nature is subjective and not really quantifiable unless it is serving a particular function. Your opinion of the interior may differ from my opinion, although as a Model 3 owner I will concede there are aspects of the iPace interior I like better and I might like it a bit better overall, but I am a fan of the Model 3 spartan interior and would have a hard time giving it up; that uncluttered look works for me. On that same track, how do you want to measure "driving dynamics"? Because if you can't measure it, we're back to dueling opinions.
@toddwright662
@toddwright662 4 жыл бұрын
@BLACKVIEW USA Don't get me wrong, I'm OK with "clutter" when it serves a purpose as it would in an airplane, but this isn't even remotely close to that. The vast majority of "clutter" that's been removed by Tesla is unnecessary in an EV (tach, oil temp gauge, oil pressure gauge, turbo boost, battery/alternator voltage...), have been addressed with in the 10 driver presets for set it once and forget it (seat, mirror, steering wheel adjustments), or can be done by voice, or for some things a combination of presets and voice. And I guess I can't imagine giving af (not even a little) what "every guy in the office thinks" of what "my new gf" looks like. But that's just me.
@toddwright662
@toddwright662 4 жыл бұрын
@BLACKVIEW USA For my situation, I'd actually like to have seat heater controls accessible by the back set passengers, but I can see the value in not having them (small kids); but this seems a really small issue especially considering heated rear seats is something most cars don't even have. As for the presets, I have 3 presets set for just me in slightly different seating positions that when selected (about 1 second as well) the mirrors and the wheel automatically adjust; I don't have need (or want) for independent/dedicated mirror controls or steering wheel adjustment controls. And I disagree with your stance on voice commands. I use it nearly daily for the navigation system, and occasionally for the climate control; it's simple to use and it's very competent (and it's activated by a steering wheel button push so the mic isn't constantly open like it is for Siri, Alexa and the like). "Maybe you haven't been In a normal car recently, but they have tach, temp and fuel." I don't care about temp or tach because they're irrelevant in an EV. The last NORMAL car I owned (I'm excluding the Prius we still own as a second car that neither my wife nor I want to drive because of the Model 3) was a Subaru WRX. Driving an ICE has gotten less complicated in the recent past about what a driver needs to pay attention to, but with an EV the only data displayed on a traditional instrument cluster that's relevant to me while driving is my speed. "range and kwh" are different ways of displaying the same information and I leave with a full "tank" every morning so I don't even look at my "gas gauge" even though it's right there below the speed. What, aside from speed, do you want an EV to display? The fart noises are just silly (although based on my experience, do you know who finds the fart noises most entertaining? Well educated women. Who knew?); Netflix while sitting waiting for a ferry or waiting to pick up my wife at the airport is pretty cool.
@AllanSustainabilityFan
@AllanSustainabilityFan 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla's pretty good in this area as well, last time they did a comparison vs the Model 3 it was not a competition, like not even close, check out Motortrends for details iirc. The Model Y will probably be somewhere between the 3 and the i-Pace in nimbleness. So no, I highly doubt the I-Pace would out-handle the Model Y on the road, BUT it should be better for off-road on the other hand due to higher clearance.
@ashrashand6039
@ashrashand6039 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla fan boy. 😂These are very different cars. Just because two things have similar dimensions, it doesn’t make them direct competitors. Ever heard of apples and oranges? It’s like comparing a Ford and a Cadillac! Anyone who has sat in a Jaguar vs a Tesla will tell you that the Jag is by far the more pleasant place to be. You look at performance, but don’t even look at handling! That means going around corners, which has never been a strong point of American cars. 😆 You also don’t even mention off-road capability! Why even look at a SUV, if that’s not even on your radar? The Jag has the same awesome off-road capabilities that other Jaguar land rovers are globally famous for. It can also ford rivers! Can the model Y or any Tesla for that matter? If you want to drive an SUV only on tarmac and don’t care about build quality (have you seen the uneven panel gaps on Tesla’s?!), then buy a Tesla. If you want a premium luxury car that can also take you anywhere, then buy a Jaguar. They’re not even aimed at the same market segments!
@aldeflorio5500
@aldeflorio5500 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, Ash. The logic this guy uses would result in a Prius being more desirable than a PHEV X5. Dumb.
@mikeg7845
@mikeg7845 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the i-pace still is eligible for a $7,500 federal tax credit in the US. That should be included the price comparison. It still gets crushed on price, but it is worth mentioning. Great video. Thanks!
@strykerace
@strykerace 4 жыл бұрын
This is true, however the iPace base price also negates it from getting subsidies from Canada and many of the state subsidies which can also be significant. Tesla consumers can still qualify for many state and international subsidies, largely depending a base price does not exceed some limit to meet subsidy guidelines. I doubt Jaguar qualifies for many subsidies as the price is so much higher for what you get.
@larskefka3373
@larskefka3373 4 жыл бұрын
So they failed upwards then.
@ckgrier2
@ckgrier2 4 жыл бұрын
@@strykerace people don't pay sticker price for i-Pace. 20% less in many cases.
@jerrypierson3450
@jerrypierson3450 4 жыл бұрын
@@ckgrier2 I ordered a model 3 performance model in August 2019, delivery in 2 weeks. I found out about the I-pace, the local dealers had a surplus on their hands. Test drove the I-Pace Jag and I was sold on it. With the $7,500 federal tax credit and a very big discount the price was about the same as the Model 3. The I-Pace is a drivers car, and I can pull off the road with out damage because of the greater ground clearance. Tesla refunded my deposit in less then a week, the cars really don't compete with each other. If I drive cross country, I take my Ram pickup with camper, I can stop and camp any where, so my driving is only around the LA area and I charge at home.
@rfm357
@rfm357 4 жыл бұрын
Jaguar has more luxurious feel and has better fit and finish.
@demultiplexdfunc177
@demultiplexdfunc177 4 жыл бұрын
It is like comparing the iPhone to a Blackberry. There is no comparison.
@Tuck_Frump
@Tuck_Frump 4 жыл бұрын
Blackberry had the same functionality. The jaguar does not.
@rally2247
@rally2247 4 жыл бұрын
and the blackberry being more expensive than the iphone.
@Tuck_Frump
@Tuck_Frump 4 жыл бұрын
@@rally2247 wrong
@rally2247
@rally2247 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tuck_Frump???
@Tuck_Frump
@Tuck_Frump 4 жыл бұрын
@@rally2247 Apple sucks. Tesla is so much better.
@gbej1
@gbej1 4 жыл бұрын
We all know what the answer is without even watching the video clip
@Antontoo
@Antontoo 4 жыл бұрын
Just to cover a few more things: Tesla's big slick tablet blows away Jaguar's laggy infotainment system. iPace also has about HALF of Tesla's trunk space and it's frunk is a joke. Adaptive air suspension is probably the only thing Jaguar has on Model Y.
@Anonym-dx2tp
@Anonym-dx2tp 4 жыл бұрын
Anton Vilinskiy and then they don’t have such a Good supercharging network
@baileyryanpatrick17
@baileyryanpatrick17 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget superior interior quality.
@Antontoo
@Antontoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@errorlooo8124 Thats true no CarPlay and Android Auto on Teslas. I thought it would be an issue, but now I prefer Teslas wireless setup. Native google map engine in Tesla works good and I switched to Spotify for music as soon as I learned Tesla added it, so now I got everything I need without having to plugin. I just thow my phone on the charge mat (Model Y has it stock) and go. Also keep in mind that CarPlay and android platforms are not designed for big screen, so you only have one app open at a time, while in Tesla you have both map and music open.
@Antontoo
@Antontoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@baileyryanpatrick17 Jaguar had nicer interior as far as materials went...but Tesla's minimal design feels very clean, more spacious (esp rear seats) and uncluttered. Tesla's seats are also way nicer unless you are putting up $4000 more for premium buckets in the iPace
@andgate2000
@andgate2000 4 жыл бұрын
But I bet the jag is built better.
@jamesfranklin2203
@jamesfranklin2203 4 жыл бұрын
The model Y is much more convenient than the Jaguar I-Pace, but if could afford to pay I would choose the Jaguar
@PaulSouthport
@PaulSouthport 4 жыл бұрын
James Franklin I did.
@joaocasimiro1510
@joaocasimiro1510 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison of several points, congratulations!
@savagecub
@savagecub 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, thanks for posting this.
@redxsage
@redxsage 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison! Thanks!
@simonhurlimann908
@simonhurlimann908 Жыл бұрын
I would agree the Y is the overall better car but in terms of luxury, interior, HUD as well as driving dynamics it might be the Jag 😉 for me the dealbreaker is the poor efficiency
@X862go
@X862go 4 жыл бұрын
Model Y please 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️
@JjJj-ty7iy
@JjJj-ty7iy 4 жыл бұрын
Ok when you did the Tesla model y vs x I was like you deserve a like but now this you got my subscription
@bobdavis7192
@bobdavis7192 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well Done. I'm subscribing right now.
@amazinness4131
@amazinness4131 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, would love this with other cars like the volt and leaf
@davidpearn5925
@davidpearn5925 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla has the vertical structure, efficiency and affordability of a WMD.
@tombuckley91
@tombuckley91 4 жыл бұрын
Are Weapons of Mass Destruction particularly affordable these days? Incredible
@davidpearn5925
@davidpearn5925 4 жыл бұрын
tombuckley91 .....or maybe disruptive?.
@medokn99
@medokn99 4 жыл бұрын
what
@tombuckley91
@tombuckley91 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidpearn5925 Ah indeed, I would very much imagine said weapon would be somewhat disruptive. Alas, I struggle to find the relevance to Tesla.
@davidpearn5925
@davidpearn5925 4 жыл бұрын
tombuckley91 so you don’t get the threat to the old world? I’m pretty sure Toyota does.
@thezanzibarbarian5729
@thezanzibarbarian5729 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. But I'd still opt for the Jaguar. However, living in the UK, we don't have the vast distances that you do in the USA and 250 miles will get us almost all the way from the south to northern England. The one big difference that you didn't point out was they is are very different cars built for very different markets. Whilst the Jaguar is aimed at luxury motoring, the Tesla is aimed for mainstream motoring. It's like trying to compare a Rolex watch with a Samsung Galaxy watch. The Rolex will tell the time, and maybe give you the date and day. On the other hand, the Samsung has multiple apps to do all sorts of stuff. But which is the better watch? I know which one I'd choose. And I'm not keen on the Tesla's spartan interior. The Tesla looks like it was designed by Ikea. But that's a personal point of view. The jaguar's interior, on the other hand, is the far classier one to be in and that's why I'd go for the Jaguar.
@PeterJames143
@PeterJames143 5 ай бұрын
Nice comprehensive comparison.
@tribalypredisposed
@tribalypredisposed 4 жыл бұрын
Fine, the Model Y wins, what did anyone expect? But no need to bash on Jaguar, they are a small company and the I-Pace is one of the better EVs any legacy automaker has managed so far. It is also their first EV, and Elon Musk is very clear about the importance of iterations. Yes, their own fault for waiting so long to make their first EV, but give them some credit here for doing an admirable job with limited resources. Of course Jaguar's first EV is not as good as Tesla's fifth EV, any other result would require an act of God.
@markswan9148
@markswan9148 4 жыл бұрын
outstanding clear analysis - well done
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dporrasxtremeLS3
@dporrasxtremeLS3 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked this coverage. To me, the support of fast charging and updates is so supportive of Tesla. It makes people really want to take care of their cars. Performance never goes out of style!
@billcichoke2534
@billcichoke2534 4 жыл бұрын
Until Tesla wants you in a newer car and takes features you paid for away from you. Unlike the Jaguar, you only RENT your Tesla until Elon thinks you should get a newer one. An iPhone is around $1k...a Tesla around $50k. Are you really wanting to treat your car like an iPhone?
@DarkWing494
@DarkWing494 4 жыл бұрын
@@billcichoke2534 oh please educate me as model3P owner what have I lost? All I know is I had so much awesome upgrade since I had the car(track mode V2 is latest rage if you haven't heard)
@ianthomas7863
@ianthomas7863 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at your backvlogs, I was correct in my comments on being a tesla infomercial. This whole channel is!!
@seanz6586
@seanz6586 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Thomas LOL....wow. Talk about a snowflake.
@DarkWing494
@DarkWing494 4 жыл бұрын
Yet Tesla never have to pay for their advertising unlike all other car company because the product is clearly superior, just look at sale statics or resale value lol.
@DarkWing494
@DarkWing494 4 жыл бұрын
@BLACKVIEW USA already have model 3P have you even had time to update on how awesome trackmodeV2 (free and over the air!!!) Or you can just plug your ears in your denial I guess(once again check out the sales numbers that slaps in your face on "no one wants lol)
@DarkWing494
@DarkWing494 4 жыл бұрын
​@BLACKVIEW USA try to compare numbers in premium cars space. Dealers don't want them cause they don't need much maintenance for dealers to make their money. But hey if you truely believes in what you saying try shorting the stock now you will get 3X+ more money compare those who were shorting it at $200 dollars LOL
@venancepretty3742
@venancepretty3742 4 жыл бұрын
@BLACKVIEW USA the world is clearly leaving you behind...stuck firmly in the 19th century.
@thomaszacherl7676
@thomaszacherl7676 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the I-pace is still my favorite,because it's a "Jag" and it's performance is not bad for the companys first EV! But i don't have the money for either of them. Will be somthing "MadeinChina" in the future. Sorry for my bad english🇳🇴
@j.phoenix
@j.phoenix 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! Please do more!
@j.phoenix
@j.phoenix 4 жыл бұрын
Suggestions for new cars are: Porsche Taycan, Audi E-Tron and Chevy Bolt.
@BallantineElectric
@BallantineElectric 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Stokkelo
@Stokkelo 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to own a Model 3 and being part of the Tesla community
@aagribeiro1975
@aagribeiro1975 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever driven either an i-Pace or a Model Y? This review is very biased towards Tesla.
@shuriken4852
@shuriken4852 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares if FSD even happens or not in the future. Right now Autopilot on the Tesla when used will lower your risk of accident by 10x and he did not even mention that Teslas are the world safest cars on top of that. And unless I missed it, there was no mention of the over the air updates which is the killer feature that no other car maker has. Ah yes! forgot one last thing, how long does it take to get the iPace?
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Right - thank you!
@simoc24
@simoc24 4 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Not that the I-Pace is unsafe, but Tesla is of course safer :) no quite 10X I thought (I may miss the latest number)
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 4 жыл бұрын
@@simoc24 Yep, not 10X. Yet. But the Jaguar tested did not have 5 star safety either.
@SM-hc2nz
@SM-hc2nz 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really love the Jaguar I-Pace but what really bothers me is, why the hell Jaguar I-Pace is performing so poorly in Europe or US compared to Audi E-tron even though it is a much superior car in every segment compared to Audi...is it just because of manufacturing capabilities or lagging tech or battery constraints? I seriously don't understand how is Jaguar I-Pace lagging behind Audi (Model 3 understood, and maybe Model Y but Audi E-tron?). Either the dealership or the marketing isn't good enough but is Jaguar taking notice? Something is not correct. Although, Audi knows its disadvantage and thus played it very smartly downsizing the battery pack and lowering the price, but who is taking Jaguar's responsibility? The car that should have been shattering business behind Tesla but that's not happening..no one in Jaguar seems to be concerned.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
I kinda think it’s bad marketing and they just aren’t building them very quickly, I guess by choice.
@loungelizard836
@loungelizard836 4 жыл бұрын
Jaguar i-pace has adaptive air suspension.
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 4 жыл бұрын
He certainly was not forth coming with features the IPace had that were not even available on the Model Y when he was so detailed on the additional $6k in options you would have to add to the IPace, it's obvious this review is far from neutral, but I am sure that the majority of viewers ate Tesla fans so neutral doesn't matter anyway.
@teslafudge1585
@teslafudge1585 4 жыл бұрын
It does not require 12 mins to answer this question 😉
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 4 жыл бұрын
It took 12 mins for Jonathan Stewart to not mention the $7500 federal tax incentive that Jaguar. Weird that he also didn't use the Performance upgrade package specs for the Y Performance which drops the range to 280mi. Jaguar also boosted range by 8% but left EPA range alone back in January. It's still lame by comparison but it's noteworthy.
@shuriken4852
@shuriken4852 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyc8499 See my comments elsewhere under this video about key points for the Tesla that he also forgot, so that should equalize things. 😉
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification. I mentioned specifically in the video that the range was with 19" wheels.
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cleanerwatt thanks Jonathan but barely anyone gets the Performance Y and only 27% of Model 3 buyers get FSD.
@Mercilessonion
@Mercilessonion 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyc8499 but they have the option of enabling anytime they'd like, they have all the hardware just need to pay the extra money!
@genxin4251
@genxin4251 4 жыл бұрын
Totally excellent review! Just came across the car magazine C and D that ranked Jaguar I-Pace at #3 and Model Y at #8, which I found questionable. They need to pay their bills.
@oldfossil8670
@oldfossil8670 4 жыл бұрын
Hardly a fair comparison. The I Pace is a luxury car / SUV that is a pleasure to drive and can actually go off road. How can Tesla call it an SUV when is can't go off road? - more a SV rather than an SUV. I understand that the Tesla is only available with plastic seats in keeping with its low cost approach. You can have any colour plastic so long as you want black. The I Pace has two types of seat and 4 leather colours as well as cloth. It has 7 types of wheel vs 2 and wider colour choice. Almost no options on the Tesla, not even a HUD! It would be more realistic to compare the Y with the E-Nero surely as another EV taking a low cost approach.
@GantryG
@GantryG 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the iPace has better off-road abilities; reviews have that part as most impressive (as noted in the video about the upper ground clearance); they invested heavily in that part and may be one of many reasons that it is less efficient at moving.
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that they would limit their vehicle's road capabilities to tailor it to the rare cases of off-road driving.
@user-jt1jv8vl9r
@user-jt1jv8vl9r 4 жыл бұрын
In the uk the only time people take their vehicles 'off road' is when they accidentally mount the curb at their local supermarket.
@dzerres
@dzerres 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is going to take a $70k vehicle off-roading. That's almost laughable. That's why these high priced SUVs are a joke. The biggest among them is the Mercedes G series: $100k and you are going to scratch the paint by going off road and brush past a bush? Nope, not gonna happen. Buy a used Jeep until the Cybertruck comes out.
@garyco766
@garyco766 4 жыл бұрын
@@dzerres Not to mention the G series are just UGLY. Worst status symbol ever.
@jay-ru-me
@jay-ru-me 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is paying MSRP for the Jag. I checked one out late last year and as a current Tesla owner they were taking off a total of 16k from the MSRP.
@MyUniversalUniversity
@MyUniversalUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I love about dealerships, the price depends on something, not a level field, was 7500 the Fed tax saving part of the 16k?
@musinclind37
@musinclind37 4 жыл бұрын
The range is the big factor here. Charging speed is an equal big factor. Would not even consider the i-fail.
@goodyKoeln
@goodyKoeln 4 жыл бұрын
@Tesla Dude That’s what most people hate about dealerships. 😇
@jay-ru-me
@jay-ru-me 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyUniversalUniversity No, 23500 off with the federal tax credit. There was a $6k conquest bonus for Tesla owners IIRC.
@toddwright662
@toddwright662 4 жыл бұрын
@@jay-ru-me At a total of $23,500 of sticker, at least it's getting in the realm of competitive depending on the priorities of the buyer. While the Model Y is better in just about every objective measure, even I like the look of the iPace better and could see some going for it for this reason (even though I know that look diminishes its interior space and wreaks havoc with its efficiency).
@shishirsks
@shishirsks 4 жыл бұрын
I think, the luxury features of the car has to be discussed as well. For instance, adjustable back seats, seat coolers, massage seats, reading lights etc.
@MyUniversalUniversity
@MyUniversalUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Tesla is ahead once again!!
@hellcat1988
@hellcat1988 4 жыл бұрын
One is overpriced and has limited production potential because of battery production. I wonder. Just doing some quick and dirty math, Tesla could put out a small, two door grocery run style car with a 50KW battery or less and still hit 200 miles of range. Hopefully they'll do that and price it under $20k for those of us holding out for something like that.
@MrArtist7777
@MrArtist7777 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably not possible with the current battery tech as the price of the battery is too high but Musk has hinted that a
@DG-uv3zw
@DG-uv3zw 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrArtist7777 Price has dropped. Tesla is very close to $100 KWh...
@user-jt1jv8vl9r
@user-jt1jv8vl9r 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a small 2nd car just to commute to work; only 16 miles each way. Take Little un the 1.4 miles, (each way: walk when weather is ok), to nursery when the weather is inclement. £15,000 would be a nice price. Don't need FSD or any of that stuff.
@DG-uv3zw
@DG-uv3zw 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r If you`re in EU there`s now Skoda citigo EV, its pretty much VW e-up so...decent range and nice little car... Price with incentives is also affordable too... Don`t know why there isn't anything like that in US tho...
@hellcat1988
@hellcat1988 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r Then why not look into a used leaf or something? With your requirements, even a poorly maintained leaf with severe battery degradation would be more than enough.
@strykerace
@strykerace 4 жыл бұрын
Does I-Pace have something similar to the heatpump to maintain range in colder climates or is this done with all the additional batteries to maintain range consistency across seasons?
@congnguyen490
@congnguyen490 4 жыл бұрын
This was no a comparison. This was a murder. Someone call the police
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 4 жыл бұрын
nonsense
@molaw8162
@molaw8162 11 ай бұрын
Beautifully made
@thewolfdoctor761
@thewolfdoctor761 4 жыл бұрын
The big advantages of the I-Pace are the $7500 rebate and the ground clearance.
@bartalian
@bartalian 4 жыл бұрын
So there is an error in your rear headroom comparison. You either swapped the numbers or you misspoke. If the chart is to believed the model Y has 1.3ins more headroom not less. Which is correct?
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for catching that. The Model Y Does indeed have +1.3 inches more headroom in the rear.
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 4 жыл бұрын
Another important feature to mention is towing, which the I-Pace offers as an accessory at 750kg in EU and UK, while the Model Y makes no mention of it in any region at this moment.
@neobow1
@neobow1 4 жыл бұрын
2nd3rd1st at this moment. I agree he should have mentioned it, but he should make it clear that the model y will have an option for towing soon just like the model 3 didn’t have it at the very beginning
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 4 жыл бұрын
@@neobow1 But the Y doesn't even have a point on the body to attach a tow bar, i'm curious how Tesla would fix that
@neobow1
@neobow1 4 жыл бұрын
2nd3rd1st they will add it. In fact there are photos online of a model y test car with a tow hitch
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 4 жыл бұрын
@@neobow1 Ah very good, ty
@neobow1
@neobow1 4 жыл бұрын
2nd3rd1st as of today you can order the model y with a tow hitch :)
@1kruxi
@1kruxi 4 жыл бұрын
Wow impressive, would love to see a similar comparison with the etron. Also a drag race between the two or three cars would be awesome to see.
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and the suggestion.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
Drag races fun to view, but spec comparison is pretty accurate and easy.
@mybugatti100
@mybugatti100 4 жыл бұрын
I would also like to comment on the used market price for these two vehicles. Very low mile 2019 I pace have already dropped 15k+ from MSRP whereas 2019 Model 3 hasn't dropped much value, if at all. This is great news for the model 3 owners that bought new but may present an interesting alternative for someone in the used market. Who knows how much the Jag will drop in value over the next few years, at some point, it may represent a more cost effective purschase. Just a thought.
@ckgrier2
@ckgrier2 4 жыл бұрын
For the price, a used i-Pace is a sweet deal. Even Model 3 is dropping in price. www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/Tesla-m112
@andrewbolivar3040
@andrewbolivar3040 4 жыл бұрын
Still, the I-Pace is more attractive than the featureless Odo-faced Model Y, IMO. And you can score one at half the price 4yrs from new. By then you can see if the electric version of a Jaguar is more reliable than a traditional Jag or not. Tesla isn’t the novelty it used to be. The styling used to be attractive, now it’s extremely plain. So yes, please, talk up the Model Y more so I can afford that I-Pace later.😄
@thegreatestmoo
@thegreatestmoo 4 жыл бұрын
You could buy 2 model 3's for one i-fail, I mean pace
@DerpyNub
@DerpyNub 4 жыл бұрын
I have pros and cons in my country There is only 1 supercharger, which is coming soon, BUT the range on model Y is about enough to travel everywhere and back so model Y is a win
@mcbc5189
@mcbc5189 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with owning a Tesla is that if you keep it for longer than the warranty then you are truly out of luck because there is NO OEM AFTERMARKET SUPPORT. What this means is that there are no repair shops you can go to that have new Tesla parts to repair your car. You'll have to rely on used parts from salvage Tesla vehicles. Also, when you do decide to sell your Tesla (if you can find a buyer), your "Performance" package or your "Fast Charging" feature will not transfer to the new owner. So basically you will not be able to recoup the expense you paid for those software upgrades (unless of course you sell to an unwitting buyer). But you will incur their wrath when they come back to you with pitchfork in hand because the Tesla you sold them had those software features revoked by Tesla.
@nmtb1972
@nmtb1972 4 жыл бұрын
I will get a Model Y. However, if you compare apples to apples. The Jaguar is much more pleasant environment to be in as a driver. It's an option which is not available on Tesla, yet. They wil get there, but it will take time. Apart from that, agreed, Tesla blows Jaguar out of the water, but they do that against all other premium brands. On the other side of the spectrum, there are some smaller EV's which you would use as a second car for short distances.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla really should do a version of the Citroen hydro-pneumatic suspension. Automatic load levelling and body roll control. Variable ride height and super smooth ride but no wobbly rolling about like you’d have on soft springs.
@fluffy24
@fluffy24 4 жыл бұрын
I just clicked the video to comment this: Tesla modely Y is the best car. Best regards
@rj8u
@rj8u 4 жыл бұрын
The best features of I Pace is the ability to take the car off beaten path due to its capability to have air suspensions where the midel y does not. I hope Tesla will add this as a option to model Y in future 👍.
@golupandey1006
@golupandey1006 4 жыл бұрын
who will buy such a costly model y then whos interior is so shit. In real world people will accept certain quality from the model y if they are paying too much money as air suspension cost 15000 dollars alone ( its one of the most costly equipments in a car)
@rj8u
@rj8u 4 жыл бұрын
@@golupandey1006 $15000 for an air suspensions? Is that made in Mars. You can get an aftermarket air suspensions for 3-4k now.
@golupandey1006
@golupandey1006 4 жыл бұрын
@@rj8u you dont get what is put on luxury vehicles, better search before commenting. you can also get pretty much anything on after market but they 3rd grade compared to equipment used in luxury cars. you are educated enough to search that.
@rj8u
@rj8u 4 жыл бұрын
@@golupandey1006 Get back to me when you can actually buy or drive a Tesla before commenting on a car you have experienced 👍. Only stupid person would pay $15000 for an air suspensions 🙉 may be you should be the one educate your self.
@golupandey1006
@golupandey1006 4 жыл бұрын
@@rj8u that doesnt change anything
@kenrenji1
@kenrenji1 4 жыл бұрын
It's important to consider really world pricing. The I-Pacd is sold in traditional dealerships cause always offer heavy discounts especially for models like these. I understand and agree that the Tesla but just something to keep in mind
@taterporkchop
@taterporkchop 4 жыл бұрын
The comparison depends on how you're using the vehicle. Unless I missed something, the I-Pace can actually do some off-roading. I'm sure it couldn't traverse the Rubicon Trail, but if going off-road is a consideration, the I-Pace has an advantage.
@odisy64
@odisy64 4 жыл бұрын
The model y is also offroad capable.
@toddwright662
@toddwright662 4 жыл бұрын
@@odisy64 Yeah, but with the the higher clearance of the I-Pace and the air suspension, the I-Pace certainly has an advantage for off-road applications.
@odisy64
@odisy64 4 жыл бұрын
@@toddwright662 clearance is important but traction control is also and i believe tesla has the best slip detection and output timing. But this only matters on steep surfaces with snow or ice which you dont always encounter but you also dont always require a huge ground clearance if the trail is somewhat even. I offroad in my jeep and its not always the same situation on most trails.
@toddwright662
@toddwright662 4 жыл бұрын
@@odisy64 Fair enough. I don't offroad so I'll take your word and experience for it. I'm in agreement with you that Tesla is likely to have better traction control. I assumed greater ground clearance would be a significant positive factor; maybe somewhat less so than I thought.
@odisy64
@odisy64 4 жыл бұрын
@@toddwright662 in some trails, ground clearance is the most important thing so in some situations the I-Pace will do better and go where the tesla cant. But both cars will do miserably in a trail that maxes out my jeeps capabilities so consider them both light offroaders but something like a cybertruck would totally shit on my jeep in nearly all conditions except for turn radius and approach/departure angles.
@Tuck_Frump
@Tuck_Frump 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have to watch the whole video. Tesla won
@TheSpiroTube
@TheSpiroTube 4 жыл бұрын
How deep can the model y be submerged in water without any damage vs the Ipace?
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 4 жыл бұрын
We need a two seat tandem city car with an option for long range. Even better use the Peugeot/Piaggio/Naro leaning quad/trike format. Leaning into bends and the narrow track does not affect stability in bends.
@vono360
@vono360 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention for 2K now you can buy acceleration boost which makes the long range faster than the i-pace
@attella-dh9en
@attella-dh9en 2 жыл бұрын
Dude i own I pace SHE for 1 year and had model y before. 4 times in 1 month tesla had to come out to fix their interior problems . Quality of tesla yoy cant even compare to jaguar. If I really needed I paid on wheels I would probably keep tesla. Jaguar is beautiful from every angle and drives anazing
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 4 жыл бұрын
How much does the air suspension option on the Y cost 'cuz it's standard on the Jag? Is rear cross traffic alert available on the Y?
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
There is no Air suspension option on the Model Y.
@usamericans6045
@usamericans6045 4 жыл бұрын
It's a fan vid. I love my Tesla, but many of the finer points were missed in favor of the Y. If the Jag/E-Tron are in the budget, everyone should test drive them too.
@garyco766
@garyco766 4 жыл бұрын
@@usamericans6045 Yeah, I think the Y is the clear winner regardless, but the video fails to compare styling, interior, road noise, handling characteristics... all things a Jaguar customer would be interested in. In the interest of impartiality those should have been included.. though to be fair, most of those are subjective anyway.
@qaz66666
@qaz66666 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from India, i really wanted the model y but since it’s not available i have gone ahead and booked myself an i-pace.
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 4 жыл бұрын
Wh/mi quoted are way off EPA numbers. Not all of battery rated capacity is useable. EPA also includes heat loss in the on-vehicle charger.
@thomass.mcdonough7321
@thomass.mcdonough7321 4 жыл бұрын
Will (can) you compare the cost of the model Y with the Mustang Mach E ?
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
Good Idea.
@marcbungener1877
@marcbungener1877 5 ай бұрын
I must be really stupid because I agree on the metrics and yet I bought a Jaguar i-pace…the absence of HUD in Tesla is a dealbreaker for me. Also the i-Pace has a fantastic feature Tesla owner can only dream of : shut down completely the central screen when you do not need it. Also It can do proper off road and the fit and fit and finish is nothing to compare, as are the seats confort, with real leather or fabric instead of horrible fake leather…back when the comparison was made one could not get a Model Y with ventilated seat and fake or real leather are really bad in summer if it is not ventilated. One is a luxury driver’s car but it is true than on long trips one will spend more than twice the time charging with the i-Pace than with the model Y. Last but not least some people own both…ask them which one they prefer :=)
@davidmaxwaterman
@davidmaxwaterman 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, but the shoulder room!
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
If your going to add those features to the base IPace just use the HSE trim model. If has those features and saves $$$.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
Range and S/W: Model Y Features: I-Pace (ventilated seats, leather seats, HUD, more seat adjustments, cabin quietness, stereo upgrade, more color options, more ‘control’ buttons).
@ppeou5190
@ppeou5190 4 жыл бұрын
good video, pretty much if you want to go full electric, tesla is the only way to go right now. I own a porsche e-hybrid, when I decide to go full electric or buy my wife an electric vehicle, has to be tesla, even if you don't use autopilot
@MyUniversalUniversity
@MyUniversalUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Head room 1.3 should have been a +, or the Tesla number was wrong?
@Cleanerwatt
@Cleanerwatt 4 жыл бұрын
I just added this Correction to the comments (pinned) and description - thanks: The Model Y has +1.3 inches more headroom in the rear (not less as I accidentally put in the chart and mentioned in the video).
@zippeo5388
@zippeo5388 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the Model Y handles as the Model 3. The I-Pace is much better to drive than Model 3, for me that is the key factor, I-Pace is better on-road and off-road. Sure, for going from A to B and bringing a lot of cargo Model Y is much better value for money but if that is the key criteria a lot of (fossil) cars would beat Model Y. Still, Model Y seems to be a good family car and if you go electric a good option for families.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
Not sure what model years or timeframes you used for prices, but Model Y prices have gone up! Wouldn’t be surprised if (US 2023 models) are closed to being the same, not the drastic difference you state. Thank you. PS you should use reference dates in this rapidly changing industry.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
Given recent Tesla price reductions, my comment was way off.
@richardstone512
@richardstone512 4 жыл бұрын
I used to be a big Tesla fan.. but I've grown tired of videos like this promoting Tesla falsehoods... Tesla does not reach it rated range and the ipace does.. the build quality on the ipace is in another league... It can offroad... Atleast try to be a little honest.... Model y mirrors don't dim... You should be ashamed to be this dishonest... Tesla does not reach EPA numbers... Many independent agencies have now verified that... Whereas every other manufacturer is significantly more accurate with their range estimates...
@AnkurMusiclover
@AnkurMusiclover 4 жыл бұрын
I pace looks classy though and more like a car not to take anything away from TESLA , Tesla Y is better but bit overhyped
@fishndive1961
@fishndive1961 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one for real the other day in a car park. They look a lot better in the photos. Looks like something heavy dropped onto it.
@AnkurMusiclover
@AnkurMusiclover 4 жыл бұрын
CGI effects :)
@bobrodriguez3651
@bobrodriguez3651 3 жыл бұрын
Want to feel flashy, Jaguar, everything else, TESLA
@bartell20j
@bartell20j 4 жыл бұрын
My decision was made within the first 2 minutes
@duanehorton4680
@duanehorton4680 4 жыл бұрын
What exactly makes the Model Y so much more efficient than the I-Pace? The efficiency difference is quite perplexing.
@shuriken4852
@shuriken4852 4 жыл бұрын
Because their motor is more efficient and their software manages the batteries much better.
@BobBob-ij9jm
@BobBob-ij9jm 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla built a more efficient car there are a million little ways to reduce your electricity consumption. The biggest things are probably the motor's efficiency the temperature management system and the amount of wiring in the car (oh and more weight). A stat I heard was that the model 3 had over a mile of wiring inside the car and the model y got that number down to 300 yards. The I-pace also has the disadvantage of being less efficient which means they have to have a bigger battery pack to increase the range which in turn makes the car weigh more which makes it less efficient. Inefficiencies compound and make the car bad.
@simoc24
@simoc24 4 жыл бұрын
shuriken48 that’s a big part of it I am sure
@Mercilessonion
@Mercilessonion 4 жыл бұрын
The battery chemistry plays a huge role. Tesla has been improving it for some time. I'm not a battery expert so I can't quite explain how it works...
@waynerussell6401
@waynerussell6401 4 жыл бұрын
The aero on the i-Pace was crippled at the earliest stage of the design by the insistence of using a Marque defining ICE grill! The rest is just less talented engineering. Watch their pre-production PR promotional boasting videos. Hilarious!
@thephilosopherofculture4559
@thephilosopherofculture4559 4 жыл бұрын
This video should have people at Tata, Ford, GM, Mercedes, BMW and PSA (France) panic. But so far, only Volkswagen has panicked, the others think they are too big to fail. Little do they know.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 Жыл бұрын
Model Y has changed a lot in 2 yrs. An updated / current video would be great and more helpful.
@ridingwolf42
@ridingwolf42 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it be more usefull to use the "usable" battery capacity to compare them?
@skywalker2852
@skywalker2852 2 жыл бұрын
Many loop-holes in this analysis - I'm a Tesla fan, but their stated EPA range seems to be the most optimistic use of the EPA testing allowances - you then use that overstated range to calculate efficiency. Then you use max charge speed over 15 minutes to determine the miles added when we know the Model Y doesn't sustain 250kW change speeds for 15 minutes - you should be using each vehicle's charge curve
@sspoonless
@sspoonless 4 жыл бұрын
Even the I-Pace is still an inch lower ground clearance than a Subaru Cross-Trek, and the model Y is an inch lower than the I-Pace. I wouldn't want to take either one over a curb.
@ckgrier2
@ckgrier2 4 жыл бұрын
Cross Trek is 8.7 inch clearance. I-Pace adjusts up to 11.
@helipilotpat
@helipilotpat 4 жыл бұрын
Both are rather CUV not SUV. Else a nice video.
@travwill
@travwill 4 жыл бұрын
Y wins overall hands down, but sure wish the quality was up to par. Ys are being delivered with tons of fit and finish defects, interior defects, seal issues, and more. Tesla churns out poor quality overall. We saw this with our S and X purchase as well so guess you have to plan for that. Some things like loose interior ceiling fabric, very poor paint defects and bumps, and horrible gaps are inexcusable even at the Y's price.
@johnmontgomery3169
@johnmontgomery3169 4 жыл бұрын
It's like comparing the Corolla (I-Pace) to a Lexus (Tesla) but you pay more for the Corolla, and you get a free smart phone and a pay raise with the Lexus. That said I think there will be a market for the I-Pace.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын
What if you want a binnacle in your Model Y - wait - what do you mean that’s not an option? I’m a Tesla fan but just pointing out that if you’re going to compare features you have to compare everything. I think the Jaguar iPace is probably going to be better built, won’t be subject to Tesla’s restrictive right to repair (eg stopping salvage car owners from DC fast charging). If you own a Jaguar you own it outright. Good thing too because it’s probably more likely to need repairing. I think the cabin of the iPace is a lot nicer place to be. But I’d rather drive the Model Y. So it isn’t as simple as comparing feature for feature.
@musinclind37
@musinclind37 4 жыл бұрын
Range and charging speed make the I-fail the dog!
@redxsage
@redxsage 4 жыл бұрын
*@MondoTV* -- Tesla's terms of use and warranty statements clearly point out their effectiveness while a car is in service during its lifetime. That _'lifetime'_ ends when aTesla vehicle receives its Death Certificate in the form of a Salvage Title. Tesla has no control of that. The Insurance Company that appraises a vehicle after a wreck determines that it is a _'total loss',_ and part of paying the claim on an insurance policy is seeing to it the car is reported as non operational. The final step is the application of a Salvage Title to said vehicle. Tesla has no obligation whatsoever to offer services of any sort to Salvaged vehicles. Their responsibilty ends the moment a Salvage Title is generated. The vehicle no longer has access to any of the services that were applied to it in the hands of its original owner, who purchased it from Tesla. Anyone who chooses to purchase a Salvaged Tesla from a junkyard auction is rolling the dice. Tesla employs no mechanism to recertify or resurrect a dead car. Nor should they. Just as Ford has nothing to do with the circa 1927 Model T cars that were chopped, modified, and converted into T-Bucket Dragster Hotrods running Chevrolet small blocks decades later.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын
redxsage Right. But they also shouldn’t have the right to disable features remotely in the interests of “safety” - what are they - the safety police? Your Mom? They really don’t want you resurrecting old cars because it affects their bottom line - one less Tesla on the road means one more sold. It’s also anti- environmental, an EV without DC fast charging is essentially useless - so that embedded carbon will now go to waste. The more the get like Apple the less I like them.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын
musinclind37 so you’ve driven an iPace and your opinion is it’s a dog? Sound like you put a lot of thought into that.
@directorjustin
@directorjustin 4 жыл бұрын
The Model Y is in a class of its own. Nothing comes close!
@LeesReviews69
@LeesReviews69 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Tesla could ever be stopped? They make the best products ever like Apple. I can’t wait to be playing video games on my iPad while the Cybertruck drives me. Omg
@philsmith6643
@philsmith6643 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a model 3 but would have bought the Jaguar as I think it's a better made more luxurious car. The reason I went with Tesla is the supercharger network. Here in the UK the charging infrastructure is very unreliable, tends to be slow 50KW max in almost all cases, very expensive in the case of the Unity network, in particular. You also need an app or a tag or need to input a bank card security number every time. Superchargers are plug and go and mostly faster. Model Y is a newer car and should be better regarding available technological advances. The quality of construction is quite good but not up to the standards set by other manufacturers, just shut the door and you'll see what I mean. Your review is welcome and I thank you for it but it does have the air of fanboy worship
@palladwr15
@palladwr15 2 жыл бұрын
But the Tesla only has black or white seats.. the iPace is a quality car with proper switches. He screens are designed in, not stuck on as an afterthought
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 4 жыл бұрын
You realize that MPGe is directly convertible, right?
@palladwr15
@palladwr15 2 жыл бұрын
The comment about cost is referring to an iPace base model. Ompare to the version with the nearest spec
@badran6290
@badran6290 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously model Y much better choice .. But the very low ground clearance is Huge negative for people using "SUV" for what it built for.. 6.6 in only! is that a minivan?!
@karthikmn
@karthikmn 4 жыл бұрын
I love Tesla Cars
@dandil
@dandil 3 жыл бұрын
there's very few car comparison reviews where there's a 40% difference in purchase price...
@thomasjacques5286
@thomasjacques5286 3 жыл бұрын
To achieve the EPA-rated miles my LR AWD Y I would need to average 245 wh/mi over some distance to get 316 miles of HIGHWAY range. In a short test to average 245 wh/mi I needed to average about 48 mph on flat terrain at about 65 to 70 degrees. But yes this has been proven many times a Tesla is a more efficient EV at ANY speed over almost all of the competition. I do wish the window sticker showed both a CITY and HIGHWAY rating. New EV owners are constantly complaining they can get that ONE number displayed on their window sticker then complain. BTW if you select the Energy app and the new Consumption screen Tesla clearly displays the cars PROJECTED EPA RANGE with a SOLID LINE and the real time dotted LINE move UP or DOWN based on actual driving. If you merge BOTH lines as you drive you'll get the EPA rated range. But who can drive like that? Highway wh/mi is usually closer to 290 to 300 wh/mi. If I were KING I'd rate my MY as 300/310 miles CITY and 250/260 miles HIGHWAY. Of course your mileage may vary.
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